DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN VS. DISTURBED: NO CONTEST
Friday, May 16th, 2008 at 2:36pm by Axl Rosenberg
Alright alright alright. A valued friend just e-mailed me to say he couldn’t believe we were keepin’ our mouths shut about this whole Dillinger Escape Plan vs. Disturbed feud that seems to have suddenly broken out. I can’t speak for Vince, but I actually didn’t write anything ’cause I couldn’t find a way to make the whole thing funny.
Well, fuck funny. Now I’m just gonna say something.
The Dillinger Escape Plan wins. Anyone who says otherwise has never seen them live. Period.
In case you’re not caught up on this whole shebang, here’s what’s goin’ down: earlier this month, Beat magazine conducted an interview with DEP guitarist Ben Weinman. One such passage in that article goes a little sumpin’ like this:
“When Dillinger find themselves on dual headlining bills, or festivals, they get to see the sadly rehearsed acts of other bands. Heavy rock cavemen Disturbed were soundchecking before an English show and Weinman was taken aback that they were ‘practicing where they were going to walk and when they were going to put their leg up on the monitor and pose. That was weird for us. There are times where I don’t even know where I am.’”
Okay. Fair enough. But now here comes Disturbed guitarist Dan Donegan, who, Blabbermouth reports, responded in an MTV interivew:
“I never even remember meeting these guys, and I think we know anybody that’s even in the room during our soundchecks, so that’s shocking to me, because I would think that we would have met them if they were standing there during our soundcheck,” Donegan said. “That’s funny. When we do a bigger production, there may be certain lighting cues for certain highlights of the show, but I wouldn’t call it ‘posing,’ just a cue for our lighting guy, so he can add more drama to the set. If [DILLINGER] sold some records, and were at the level we’re at, maybe they’d see that, for bands like KISS and METALLICA, there are certain highlight points during a set that you want to focus on. If I’m going to go over to one spot and do a guitar solo, my lighting guy may need to know that, so he can focus in on that.
“If that’s posing, then so be it,” the guitarist continued. “To me, I don’t think we talk about when we’re going to put our foot up on a monitor. That’s just silly. It’s a natural thing we do. Those guys can say whatever they want. If that’s supposed to be a jab at us, am I offended? I don’t give a shit. If they’re saying it because they’re haters, why? Because we sell millions of records and lots of tickets? It sounds more like jealousy to me.”
I have so many issues with Donegan’s retort that I hardly know where to begin, so excuse me as I ramble for a moment:
- Making more money does not make you the superior artist. We know this because, throughout history, lots of brilliant men and women lived in poverty – and now no one even remembers the name of the people that “outsold” them. Maybe Weinman is jealous of Donegan’s success, but even if that were true (and I doubt that it is – Weinman’s not a retard, and I’m sure he’s aware that recycling the same riff for the trillionth time and making monkey noises will outsell mathcore pyrotechnics every time), this would be a specious argument.
- Even if Dillinger ever did sell as many albums as Disturbed, it’s tough for me to imagine Weinman (or anyone else in the band, for that matter) giving two fucks about the lighting guy. Anyone who has ever seen the band’s live act – which includes a lot of jumping, climbing, throwing shit, fire breathing, and general mayhem, which, as far as I can tell, is always 110% completely spontaneous – would realize this.
- I’ve seen Disturbed’s live show with all its gajillions of fancy lights and I’ve seen Dillinger’s stadium-sized club show, and it kicks Disturbed’s ass any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
- Is your lighting guy a ree-ree? Can’t he just, y’know, move the spotlight to follow you when you solo? I’ve seen lighting guys do it before. Look into it.
- WHAT SOLOS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, ANYWAY?!?!?!?!
- If Weinman is just jealous, then you have no reason to feel threatened, and no reason to give a retort – let alone such a long one. It would seem that you’ve been studying at the Dino Cazares School of Debate. In other words: me thinks the hack guitar player doth protest too much.
- Just because you don’t remember meeting someone doesn’t mean you didn’t meet them, or that they weren’t in the room – especially since you’re a big famous rock star who meets thousands of people every week, and word around the camp fire is that you’re a real douche turd anyways.
- You sure you know everybody that’s in the room during your soundchecks? Okay, answer quick: what’s your sound guy’s name? I’d put good money on Donegan dismissing a beared, grungy Weinman as some stage hand.
- If you’re a better technical player than Weinman, you’ve never done anything to show it, so shut the fuck up.
- If you’re a better writer of pop metal songs than Weinman, you’ve never done anything to show it, so shut the fuck up.
- While you’re at it, why don’t you please just do us all a favor and shut the fuck up?
Now, I’m sure a few trillion Disturbed fans will leave comments below telling me why Disturbed are awesome and why I’m gay (or a similarly well thought out argument). All I can say to them is, if preferring Disturbed to Dillinger Escape Plan is what it takes to be a heterosexual, than I guess I’d rather go make out with some dudes, thanks.
-AR
P.S. That one was for you, Dave.
by golly do i love band drama
It actually was a level-headed, reasonable response to a silly criticism.
I’ve seen Maiden and Priest and Metallica a total of 15 times and the bigger those acts became, the more “choreography” was involved.
Dude, I know you hate Disturbed, and I’m okay with it, but this was really a weak thing at which to take aim.
If four years ago Dan Donegan had said the same thing about Guns ‘n Roses (or whoever) you’d have called Donegan a punk ass bitch who should shut the fuck up. Hell, Draiman or Donegan could say they love their moms and you’d find fault.
I’m hoping I didn’t disappoint because I didn’t call you a derogatory term for homosexual or express my undying love for the music of Disturbed with use of the overused term “awesome”.
I’m not a fan of either band, but it sounds like the DEP guy is attacking Disturbed and calling them poseurs. Whether or not Disturbed are poseurs is open to debate, but the guy has every right to retort.
His response on ticket and album sales was a bit of a slam, but secondary to the main point which is larger shows do require bigger production values. Remember James Hetfield being burnt alive back in the 90’s?
I know you guys worship DEP. I don’t, and if you wanna call people poseurs, I think DEP is a pretty easy target. I don’t know the guys and they might be genuine as all hell, but they look like hipster emo fucks. Whats with the guitars up to thier necks? That’s just instantly lame. You don’t have to be Korn and have the guitar to your knees, but a guitar shouldn’t look like a necklace. I hear you guys ripping on the karate kicking slam dancers all day, and that’s the exact way DEP come across with their stage MOVES.
It does make it easier to play complex riffs and such!!!!!!
If you played guitar, you’d know it’s easier to play faster riffs with the guitar higher…
And since when is a live show all about looks anyway (kinda contradicts your previous argument)…
I don’t know, I think you’re taking Disturbeds ‘orcorcorcorcorcorcorc’ attack too lightly.
I do like Disturbed to a certain extent, and I can see where Dan is coming from as far as making sure things go right when people make such a big deal about Disturbed playing and the record company putting so much money into them. It just seems right to have a little organization so they don’t find themselves looking like a bunch of idiots when their huge production goes to shit.
Dan is most definitely a douche for playing the success/jealousy card though. I lost a lot of respect for him in light of those comments. It didn’t even seem like Weinman meant any harm by what he said in the first place. He said it was weird.. so the fuck what?
orcorcorcorcorc
See? That shit fucking hurts!
Erik- not trying to start a flame war or anything over such a dumb topic- but why does it matter how the DEP wears their guitars?
Maybe it’s a comfort issue. Maybe since they play some pretty intense technical stuff, it makes it a little easier to have the guitar up high than hanging down at their knees.
That’s like taking offense at a band because their drummer happens to use a throne with a back on it instead of the backless model.
I don’t really see how this was a “level-headed, reasonable” response to a “silly criticism.” Honestly, Weinman really didn’t say all that much; it was far from an attack. Yes, it was a little critical, but personally I don’t know that it warrants any response at all. In fact, most of the shit-slinging done in that excerpt is by the writer, not Weinman.
That given, Donegan’s response was defensive and seemed somewhat insecure. I actually read about this earlier today at MetalHammer, which included this bit of Donegan’s response:
“We utilize theatrics and pyro, so we have to rehearse where the pyro is going to go off, because we don’t want to have a James Hetfield moment and get caught in the flame. But that’s something Dillinger Escape Plan would know nothing about, because they don’t play arenas – they play clubs.”
Am I reading this wrong, or is that not some seriously condescending bullshit? All Weinman really said was it’s “weird” to see a band choreographing their show; Dillinger (and a vast majority of the bands they’ve played with, I’m sure) don’t really do that. Donegan’s response just makes him come across as a dickhead rock star who thinks he’s better than anyone else who has sold less records.
Disturbed+fans=posers
DillengerEscapePLan+FANS=HARDCORE EVOLUTION OF THE MATURE METAL MIND
Corporate scum, they lost their backbone and soul to puppeteers. Disturbed, pathetic name aimed at kiddies struggling for thier identity – then don’t understand why they get beatdown and called posers at school along with the emo kids…
Once you’ve all grown up and recognize positive musicianship, both on stage and back stage – the sooner we can bury the disturbed sheep.
Posers are posers, called a spade a spade… dont call yourself a MetalHead… no contest, indeed!
MMEESSHHUUGGGGAAHH!!
And so begins another episode of “Feuding Bands Say The Darndest Things”.
DEP look like “hipster emo fucks”? Ever take into account that they’re all much better musicians than Disturbed? And, you know, write better songs?
Or at least they did up until their last two albums came out.
Yeah, the DEP guys must be so jealous of the biggest laughing stock in loud music. Even asStaind is better than DicksTurd.
oh and ps, does anyone else find the Three Doors Down/Staind/Hinder tour a hilarious collection of poo/butthole-named bands? Could be a porno: “Three Down On My Staind Hinder Door.”
WHO FUCKING CARES WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE FOR “LIGHTING” ASPECTS OF THE SHOW?! I’m there to enjoy the music and to have a hell of a time. I would die to see DEP live! I’ve seen Disturbed 3 times and…SAD! I’ve seen Pantera and Slayer for their stadium tours, yea some pyro and smoke but it was all about the music! The criticism about the Disturb’s guitarist is all too true, WELL SAID!
@ERiK: Saying DEP looks like “hipster emo fucks” is criticism of their image, which I don’t give a fuck about. Planning/ choreographing (or not planning/ choreographing) is about the kind of show you put on, which I do give a fuck about. I really don’t see how the way DEP looks or wears their guitars is relevant to this argument, their music, or their show. And frankly, it comes across as kinda shallow.
Dillinger is better than disturbed at everything they do.
You guys are right, DEP have every right to wear what they want and can play keytars if they feel it compliments the music. But, this thread is about elitist hatred, so I felt it was appropriate to fan the flames of verbal war. Hate on!
Regardless of how you feel about this specific issue, I think if you switched the names, the DEP defenders would change their position.
My point was not who is more correct or more of a douchebag, but that pre-conceived notions (or hatred) of a subject/person/band tend to color one’s view of what that band does or says. If you all already thought of DEP as turds, you’d have a different opinion of this exchange.
Let me put it this way: if it was Avenged Sevenfold’s guitarist who made the original comments re: Donegan, you all would be saying, “Look at those two idiots, shit calling shit shit” and wouldn’t even take a side.
Re-read the thing and change DEP to A7X and change Disturbed to DEP and then tell me honestly you wouldn’t have a different opinion.
I think it is funny that a goofy nu-metal band would take themselves so seriously. They should embrace their cheesiness instead of acting like the meatheads they are.
Dillinger are always talking shit and trying to cause drama. It’s part of their schtick. I saw them at Slims in SF once and Kirk Hammett came out to see them and from the stage Greg said to the crowd “Hey, i hear that Kick Hammett of Metallica is here, why dont you find him and ask him why Metallica suck so much now”. That was some funny shit.
DEP can make a Justin Timberlake cover even sexier.
Disturbed made a total joke of Walk, and I’m not even a big Pantera fan.
uh…who needs “drama” on their stage set?…Disturbed are acting like they put on a “King Diamond” esque stage show…do they really “need” to choreograph anything unless it involves pyro?
DEP for the record, to me, are nowhere near the same band that played Calculating Infinity or Under the Running Board, but even in their slower nowadays form, utterly destroy anything Disturbed does…and from what i hear, they’re doing pyro, and there’s no friggin choreagraphy LOL…
@Sammy: You’re absolutely right; my bias colors my opinion here. I do think my bias in this case stems more from the types of bands involved rather than which bands they are specifically. Had you put a shitty, less-known band (some generic metalcore band, for instance) in the place of DEP and a good, well-known band (a Metallica or Iron Maiden or whatever), I would still take issue with the bigger band’s “rock-star” mentality and the condescending tone.
Granted, I would probably have less of an issue with it if they were playing music I liked. I’ll give you that.
@Fink: Takes balls to make that admission. You are a man. (Unless you’re a woman, then You are a woman.)
Disturbed is wack like crack. Drugs are bad kiddies and Disturbed is too.
In my opinion the retort by Dan seemed like nothing more than the responce of a man that has let his celebrity status get to his head.
A light man’s job is to fucking follow the people on stage and if every member also has one each they should really make sure the lighting guy is competant enogh to follow who ever hes following. Its not like their in chaos, nothing is left to chance these days in big productions so their lightman should be capable of following a little guy on stage.
Also sorry for copy pasting the ramble above but where are these soloes? i would like to hear these soloes, are they any good?
bottom line to this copy pasted ramble is that cocky rock stars are just plain old fashion assholes.
Donegan started soloing on Ten Thousand Fists (I believe either the songs Guarded or Stricken have one in them). He’s not the best, but he doesn’t play the worst solos I’ve heard.
As far as this argument goes, I think we’re all overreacting a bit. Yes, Donegan got a little snotty when it came to album sales, but as for what a band does to prepare for their shows, whatever works for them is fine with me. I saw Disturbed a couple of years back, and I really enjoyed the show. Granted, they may have changed since then.
I’ll be the first to admit, Miss Machine/Ire Works DEP beats Disturbed on any day, but sometimes I like some simple metal that I can rock out to. David Draiman is a pretty good singer, so Disturbed has that going for them.
All i’m going to say is, Axl Rosenberg, you are my new hero :p
I just pooped a little.
Sounds more like Britney and Christina bitch slapping each other. Actually, that would be a better fight. Are you kidding me? Both these so called bands SUCK ASS! Formulated music(?) for the unimaginative and easily manipulated. What are you Axl, 13 fucking years old? Grow up man! You want punch you in the mouth and kick you in the nuts music? SOILENT GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuckers…..
who cares? disturbed think they’re above all rockstars, and dillinger escape plan think they’re rockers. both of them should just keep on doing what they do, and we’ll probably still listen to what we feel like. quit crying about it. game over.
It’s easier to play technical stuff with your guitar up to your chest. You dont have to hold the guitar up with your hand, so you have more freedom to move around the fretboard.
I’ll take exciting matchcore over bland alt metal any day.
Disturbed is awesomely awesome!!! Axl you’re so gay.
Axl is awesomely awesome!!! Dave you’re soooo gay. Oh yea, Disturbed is gay too! Seen them live before. They sucked about as much donkey dick as Dave does. Im glad I did not pay to see that show.
disturbed is bad, no doubt about that.
a few things:
1) both bands are pretty sucky. Though Disturbed sucks way more
2) Anyone who saw DEP ‘growing up’ especially at Krazy Fest 2 (or 3–senility is setting in) and saw them around the hotel bar area knows and has seen first hand that their ’spontaneous’ stage act is as in the moment as a Madonna concert.
3) Weinman actually kinda really sucks as a guitar player so it’s a bit silly to claim any kind of vast superiority over the other douche. His guitar god status is mostly thanks to critics who’ve never picked up an instrument in their life hearing a bunch of notes that don’t sound like a cat being skull fucked and assume it must mean the height of playing ability. It’s not.
I liked the fight between Dillinger and Avenged Sevendust better.
“Dillinger Escape Plan make shitty noise and try to pass it off as music.”
“Avenged Sevenfold make shitty noise and try to pass it off as Guns ‘N’ Roses.”
That’s some preschool-level bickering I can get behind, unlike “Dude, that’s choreographed!” “Dude, we make more money than you!” and then to the comments: “DEP aren’t musicians and their pants are too tight!” “Disturbed lick their cats butts. I saw it on youtube!”
Why so much fake acrimony?
Comment count has been going up recently. I didn’t make it through all this comments, but I saw a lot of “hey, why you hating on Disturbed?” Fuck anyone that said anything even remotely similar to that. In fact, fuck anyone who ever types “Disturbed” on the internet ever again.
Seriously, this was one of your funniest posts in a while. Blockquotes with the facts, then MetalSucks-quality bashing. I LOVE IT!
I think the comments left on this post are better than the post itself.
Especially the ones calling you gay or bitching about you hating on Disturbed. Seeing as how you’ve made your opinion on them quite clear in the past, I wonder why they even bother to read what you post about them when they know they won’t like it.
They both fucking blow. Man, you guys don’t know shit.
All I can say is…..lol @ Disturbed.
All I can say is LOL @ these fucking morons who say DEP IS ONLY NOIZE OMG DEY SUCK
Without reading every single comment above mine, Am i the only one that thinks that Weinman wasn’t attacking disturbed at all? He’s just commenting that during their own live shows, everything they do is instinct.
This thread is great to read while taking a dump. On David Draiman’s head. It’s so shiny!
*Yawn*
Great thing about opinions…they’re like assholes, everyone has one. Great thing about the internet…gives assholes an outlet for their opinion. The comments made for great bedtime reading before sleeping thanks guys!
win
Disturbed have sucked since birth, look at the new album cover. Muscle bound man wallking through flames woah thats deep. Who once said I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals flaming, Hey dave sure agrees on that one!!!
is it “oooooo wa ha ha ha ” or “ewww wah hahaha” or “booo wahahaha”? anyone? i wanna sing along but i dont wanna look like an idiot.
ok, just to get it out of the way first… i love DEP, Disturbed’s singer is a turd with legs.. ok done. Now, reading the article, Weinman said NOTHING that should be veiwed as offensive. just that their rehearsal was unusual for them to see, considering that DEP’s stage show is improvised, THAT’S IT!!! then Disturbed’s guitarist flies off the handle and gets defensive like a high school cheerleader with a skinned knee. All he did was reaffirm the fact that he can’t stand the fact that his music only really appeals to the Lowest Common Denominator while DEP actually does something different. Granted DEP may not sell as many records, but did Douche-sturbed get hand-picked by Dave Mustaine to play on Gigantour? nope. Donegan should sit down, eat a bowl of boring-ass corn flakes with a toothless groupie and shut the fuck up… well, after Draihman takes his cock out of his mouth.
If learned anything today, I learned that Disturbed is musical theater. And if I recall correctly, musical theater is teh suck.
I ONLY WILL SAY: WHO THE FUCK ARE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN???!!! LOL!
THE GUY OF DEP STARTED WITH THIS… SO I DONT KNOW WHY YOU PUT EVERITHING ON DAN DONDEGAN, HE ONLY ANSWER TO THE IDIOT.
SO MANY BANDS HAVE MOVES ON STAGE,FOR THE LIGHTS OR FIRE EXPLOSIONS!
DISTURBED NOW ARE MORE PROFESSIONAL AND IF THAT SUCKY BAND KEEP GROWING, IN THE FUTURE WILL DO THE SAME. AND THAT ISNT WRONG. SO OPEN YOUR FUCKIN MINDS!
saw somebdy earlier in the comments talk about disturbed covering walk…if you thought that was bad, check out avenged sevengfold covering it, or nickelback covering sad but true…yea…nickelback, covering metallica…
Disturbed suck so much cock is unbelievable. You guys defending them are all faggots with your fathers. It was an off hand comment on how they found it weird to see that, because their all about being spontaneous and going nuts. A dillinger show is all ready crazy enough without all of the stage shit disturbed has. Dan sounds like an all around cock bag. Dillinger has influenced so many bands, and pull off some really creative things. Disturbed ripped off creative bands like Korn and Deftones, who were revolutionary at the time. Anyone who wants to dispute that can suck my asshole.
So, my point is that Disturbed touch young boys, and Dillinger is probably one of the best bands ever.
DEP IS FUCKIN BAD NOISE!!!
THAT BAND SUCK VERY BADLY.
I FUKIN HATE DEP I JUST WANT TO HIT THEM (cant belive i even went to one of their gigs)
i would pick disturbed anyday
Damn, I can’t believe that so many people are actually going to take Dan seriously. Just listen to Disturbed, you can’t take ANYTHING that they do or say seriously.
Seriously…wow
This isn’t fucking metal, at all. So much for a “metal” blog, what the fuck? This is just complete bullshit bickering. Do you actually re-read the articles that you write Axl? Arguing about how “good” a band is makes no fucking sense. If people like the music, power to them they’re making someone happy. Who are you to fucking debate the “complex musicality” of a band, fuck that. Metal is about adrenaline and intensity, and if being an awesome musician allows you to do a better job at that great. I personally don’t like Disturbed or DEP because they’re not my fucking thing, but whatever. Being a motherfucking elitist “MY band is better than YOUR band” just makes you sound like a cocksucker with a serious insecurity about your favorite band. Reccomend bands that you like, embrace metal. Don’t just be a fucking tabloid, bitching about the little disputes in the industry.
Being an elitist who argues their OPINIONS as undisputed fact: cocksucker
Being a person who accepts that not everybody thinks exactly like him: not a cocksucker
P.S. (Unrelated to this article) This blog needs to quit the Jewish hate, makes it sound extremely ignorant. Being Jewish is equally as ignorant as being Christian, or Islamic, or anything.
why don’t you post the entire article from mtv.com…dan makes other good points that you left out
[...] Dan Donegan after the two engaged in a war of words through the press a couple of weeks back (read Axl’s recap here for some hearty amusement). From the DEP MySpace blog: The guitar player Dom Deluise or [...]
[...] can’t really find fault with. I mean, yes, it’s kind of condescending, but less so than Donegan’s response, and, c’mon, DEP said Donegan has a small penis, so all things considered, it’s not so [...]
ill have to agree with nakho who the hell is dillinger escape plan they look like an emo band. anyway there are more pressing matters at hand here like it seems to me all you girls are getting upity because someone insulted your boyfriends. all DEP fans are emo faggets
DEP = FALLOUT BOY
THEREFORE
DEP=FFFAAAAAAGGGGGGGSSSSS
DEP FANS= FAGGOTS
Drew, your a faggot. You like big balls in your mouth, and disturbed’s dicks in your anus. You equally a faggot. DEP is tough as fuck, their singer is jacked, he’ll fuck you right up. Dick licker. Disturbed like boys. LOTS Of boys. I agree with Harry.
Listen Im the first guy to say that bands dont have to be popular to be good but The Dillenger Escape Plan fucking sucks. Listen these underground bands who are shit call big bands posers because they cant get noticed is bullshit. Disturbed got noticed because of their talent.lots of bands really are under the radar and very good.Clutch,BobaFlex,Mindless Self Indulgence,Circle II Circle,Wednesday 13,Fantomas,In Flames ect are good bands who aren’t mainsteam. Why does Dilleinger Escape Plan give too shits to say anything about Disturbed if their not insanely jelous of their success. Disturbed may not be the most technical band but fuck them for being noticed right. Their vocalist is AWFUL.THeir guitar player is quite impressive fact but in dosen’t translate in writing great music. Just because you drum fast dosent mean your good either…contrary to popular belief by all the death metal heads.
TDEP is one of the greatest bands in music today. spastic fucking mayhem, intensity, the soundtrack of a fucking beatdown and adrenaline rush… but anyway, he didn’t take a swipe at disturbed, even though i think he did. his original comments weren’t even that bad.
DEP in my option is the better band, and to all those people that say Weinman sucks at guitar go suck a dick. I would like to see you play any DEP songs with such intensity as they do live, not in your bedroom, live. Even in a recent issue of Guitar World they listed Weinman as one of fastest guitarist. Now people are gonna complain about that remark but o well, i’d like to see you try and play 43% burnt.
[...] living under a rock and have no idea what I’m talking about, you can read about the conflict here, here, and here. If you think that this is petty bullshit and you can’t believe that [...]
hey ross, do you listen to the “music” that you listen to? ANYONE can randomly beat on a guitar and think they do something awesome. At least when I listen to disturbed i can follow whats going on in the song. DEP sounds like the random beating on a guitar. there is no way dep beats disturbed. anyone who thinks otherwise is about as messed up and is on more drugs than DEP is.
im not saying id follow disturbed to hell and back, but i can certainly find something better than DEP to listen to. disturbed falls under that category.
Dillinger Escape Plan is the best live act out there. The almighty Gwar sits in a tight second place. Disturbed are trash. This guy obviously was offended by Weinman’s comments and it hit him at a personal level because…he knows he sucks balls. That is what people do when they know the shit-talker is right haha.
“There are times where I don’t even know where I am.” -Ben Weinman.
That’s why your music sucks, dumbass! Yeah you can play fast but you cant put it together with anybody else. thats also why i dont listen to you.
I haven’t heard anything by DEP, so I’m not going to comment on that. But I do like Disturbed, we’re not messed-up young boys, and if there’s anything I DON’T want, it’s a cock in my ass.
Go ahead and hate on Disturbed all you like, but just leave the fucking fans alone!
To be honest if there was some silly little band of chicken legged fringe sporting men that make music with that makes no sense, and they decided to take the piss out of my bands rehearsal then i would want to tell them where to stick it aswell.
Disturbed have a whole array of fans out there and they are getting ready to give those people exactly what they bought a god damn ticket for. To take time out of your day to make sure everything is prepped and ready is dedication.
maybe the dillinger escape plan could learn from this example, although they do not look like the type of people who would learn alot from their mistakes judging by the fact that they already try to make themselves look big by insulting their peers.
enough said
ok dumbfucks. Disturbed is the shit. DEP can suck theyre own dicks even tho they already do. i never even heard of these emo fucks till they started mouthing off to Disturbed. o and Dan would kick the gayness outta that motherfucker. wut hit songs have those emo bitches made none. Disturbed 6 #1 singles. so yeah u fags can play with ur lighters on stage. but plz leave the actual performing part to DISTURBED!
the one thing about this post that has absolutely bamboozled me, i mean completely just brainfucked me.
is how disturbed fans have the intelligence to construct coherent sentences. my life will never be the same.
how can you even call the dillinger escape plan emo.
if anything, they make disturbed sound like justin timberlake.
get a fucking clue you muppets, and why have a professional stage show that “disturbed do have” over and over again, the same every fuckin show, when you can have all out carnage every time you see dillinger escape plan, renound for being one of the most dangerous live bands to see.
U GUYS ARE ALL STUPID! DISTURBED IS THE BEST FUKIN BAND EVER!!!! THEY ARE WAY MORE LEGENDARY THEN ANY BAND I CAN THINK OF!
You’re so away from reality with that comment.
Why do you guys care so much? Wow, everyone loves DEP. Wow, everyone loves Disturbed. If someone is trying to start a fight by swinging first, wouldn’t you swing back? (Don’t say no because you’re a pacifist or some crap like that.) People naturally have to support their bands if someone tries to talk trash. Don’t you stick up for yourself if someone is trying to put you down? Everyone is saying Disturbed sucks. Why? Because you said so? Because Disturbed isn’t your type of music? Well guess what, it’s your opinion. The thing is, DEP started this. Disturbed is sticking up for themselves. To all you people saying stuff about the choreography of Disturbed, go on YouTube and search for their live performances. They don’t move all that much. To all of you people talking about band covers and how “bad” Disturbed is, it’s irrelevant to the topic.
DisturbedRULES SAYS:”i never even heard of these emo fucks till they started mouthing off to Disturbed” haha intellegent guy!!!!…… wait there’s more
“DEP can suck theyre own dicks even tho they already do”
lol!!! haha how old are you 12! DEP kick anal and then fuck cobwebs out of anal! Greg Puciato LEGEND! what a voice! Tell Dan to make a voice like that!! all he can do is OH! OH! ooh wa ah ah ah! what is that?
sounds like what happened to him when his mother hit him as a child. I should know I am his mother! I fucked his father and then! out came little old dan!….. out of my anus! good old dan!….terrible music but still a nice guy!
They (DEP) made fun of Disturbed for posing with their feet on monitors yet they climb walls and breathe fire during their shows? Both sound equally corny. Both bands are terrible anyway. Only immature loser musicians have quarrels with each other. Just play your music. That’s all that matters.
Ok, this has got to stop, SERIOUSLY and NOW! I’ve heard of dillenger escape plan exactly ONCE, from word of mouth. Never listened to any of their songs or seen them live. Disturbed on the other hand, I OWN all of their albums, all store bought cds, and I’m 28 soon to be 29. I’ve seen Disturbed live and they put on a helluva show with pyro and real guitar solos. Maybe Dan Donegan over-reacted a bit to the trash line put out by Weinman, however Weinman did insult Dan Donegan with the whole ‘Disturbed Cavemen’ line. Me thinks that both parties piss and moan way too much. However, I’m here to put a coherent reply out here for all people to read and understand and not just grandstand as a normal fanboy. So I will say this, Disturbed’s Dan Donegan is a helluva guitar player, replete with his own licks and cords and can rip guitar solos with some of the greats. David Draiman is a helluva vocalist in his own right too. Real Metal is about Vocals and Guitar work! NOT about how hard or how fast you can truely play and abuse your equipment, and no that is NOT a stab at Slayer, who are metal gods in their own right! Somehow Disturbed manage to sell a record or 10 million while not totally giving into the gay music system aka sell out. What matters most is the music, not just soundbites and taking stabs at other bands just because your angry. Heres what Dillenger Escape Plan can do to fix the situation, they can take their anger and channel it into making some better music so they can acheive some success too, then the pissing and moaning can stop from both sides. And no, metalcore is NOT true metal! Alas that means that P!ATD, MCR and A7X need to stop trying to parade around as metal bands, YAWN. How about that? A metalhead that can form coherent setences with proper punctuation and grammar and NOT flame on people! Will wonders never cease? That being said, I bet I’ll get flamed on for hating on metalcore, or have some DEP fanboy come and say something stupid to me. Funny how Disturbed’s music doesn’t take cues from other bands at all? Ok, I’m done, I’ll be off to go listen to some Pantera or Motörhead now and play some sort of violent FPS game on my xbox.
I’ve seen tDEP live.. The fucked up halve the show of System of a down.. EVERYBODY hated this stupid band. Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool if you scream in the metal scene, but these guys JUST scream… It’s not music, I couldn’t hear any beat in it, nothing at ALL.
tDEP SUCKS BIG TIME!!!
Not that system of a down is that cool but it is 10000x better than tDEP.
I can’t say it too many times, THEY SUCK.
Actually both of these bands really suck. Nu metal and Emo are two of the worst genres in the history of music. These bands were both washed up in the 90s. I hope some of these people stayed in school because it will be extremely sad to see them still playing this horrible music a few years from now. I don’t even know how I got on this site…
i honestly dont understand the big hipe about DEP, but i just want to say disturbed has some solos
I’d just like to say disturbed are complete shit and have no business being labeled as a metal band, more like a fucking circus act. the fact that several people have associated disturbed with orcorcorcorc smply goes to show you they are modern day arena rock with shit musicianship and shit songwriting. FACT.
Disturbed is a drop-tune away from being Nickelback. On that note, I’m not a DEP fan either but their musicianship and fan-following are pretty up there. Some people love them and some can’t stand them. Either way, the way “big” acts rehearse may be different compared to how “not-so-big” acts prepare for shows. Weinman could has easily said that they disagreed with the way Disturbed set up shop without calling them cavemen, but lets be honest, they’re pretty middle-aged. The only reason that Donegan brought up the unimportant points of record sales (pointless due to the fact that if one person sees your show it doesn’t mean you’re a worse musician than if 1,000,000 idiots were to see you play) is because of the initial name calling, most likely.