THE OCEAN MAIN-MAN ROBIN STAPS IS NOT ONLY AN INCREDIBLY TALENTED MUSICIAN, BUT SMART TOO

Thursday, June 5th, 2008 at 11:50am by

the ocean - robin stapsThat much should be obvious just from listening to The Ocean’s latest album Precambrian, a sprawling, well thought-out work that is clearly the result of some heady, intense writing and a very active brain. When we interviewed Robin before The Ocean’s headlining gig at The Knitting Factory on Monday, May 26th, this became even more apparent; Robin was extremely well-spoken and articulate and had a hell of a lot to say (we’ll be publishing that interview soon enough). A recent column Robin did for MetalKult further exemplifies just what a smart dude he is. But before we get to that, I’d like to reflect on the aforementioned show for a moment.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Opening bands Withered, Lair of the Minotaur and Kylesa were pretty good and all… but The Ocean took the stage to finish off the night and made all of the openers look like little sissy amateurs. Seriously, it was that big of a difference. The Ocean’s level of professionalism and polish dwarfed everyone else’s, their stage presence was 10x greater, and their spartan but effective light show (consisting of nothing more than a few strips of LEDs hooked up to a midi sequencer) added to the drama, brilliance, and awesomeness of the show. A fucking brilliant US debut for The Ocean.

Anyway, back to Robin being a smart dude. It’s no secret that America is a pretty backwards place in a lot of ways, and that while we may lead the world in terms of certain cultural tastes, America is lightyears behind Europe when it comes to certain civil liberties and general common sense. After the jump, read what Robin (who is from Germany but has lived in and spent time in America) has to say on the matter.

As a European in America, you sometimes feel alienated. I have been here many times before and have actually lived in the States for a year, and still I don’t get used to certain aspects of life here. No drinking in the streets! That’s ridiculous… walking out of the venue with a beer in my hands, I had bouncers chase me every night since I got here, I just keep forgetting it cause it’s so unreal for me. If anyone tried to make that a law in Germany there would be riots in the streets! In a city like Berlin you will see flocks of people just sitting out on the streets at night drinking and talking and partying until the early morning hours. In Madrid they call it botellones, meeting up with your friends in a park with a stereo or a guitar and a few bottles of red wine. It’s a part of culture; it’s unimaginable to do without. And despite all this, I don’t get the impression that there are fewer alcoholics in America than in Spain or Germany.

America, the “land of the free” – and yet, here in the US, there are rules and regulations for everything, even the most insignificant aspects of everyday life. You are not free to drink in the streets. You are not free to enter a truck stop without a shirt. You may not be free to see The Ocean play in your town if you are only 20 years old and the show happens to be +21. When you go to a show anywhere in Europe, no one will ever ask for your ID. And when you step behind the counter at Guitar Center to check out the guitars on the wall they treat you like a criminal, cuz you are “too close to the cash”…

It seems like more than any other place on earth, this country is based on a strong confidence in authority, rather than trust in people’s reason and intelligence [emphasis added - Ed.] And this is exactly why we Europeans sometimes feel alienated here, and offended. “You are welcome to read these books after you have purchased them”, I once read in a book store. When you apply for a working visa, you have to go through a ridiculous procedure of application that is not only humiliating but completely inefficient. And then the fact that all the prices are pre-tax – it doesn’t make any sense at all, it is tricking people to believe that something is cheaper than it actually is! When you have a 5 dollar bill in your pocket and you wanna go grab a sandwich here and it’s $4.80, you have to get your phone out first and calculate to see if you can actually buy it, cause there is tax on top of it…

Touche, Robin! Totally on point. For a country that prides itself on being “free,” America is a really conservative, restricting place in a lot of ways.

The rest of Robin’s blog is really worth reading too. Check it out at MetalKult.

-VN

  • RobInjection

    Love it or leave it bub!! Its because of Nazis like you that 9/11 happened!!!!!

  • Anon

    Bwahahahaha.

    Why don’t you ask him how he feels about letting Turkey join the EU? Or how about letting all the turkish immigrants in Germany actually become citizens? Germany’s really nice as long as you have the right skin color and don’t speak arabic.

  • dudemandude

    RobI: That is either the funniest post Ive ever read or you are tragically illiterate. I’m really not sure.

    And I for one do not want shirtless dudes at my truck stop, sorry.

  • Ross

    I love the Ocean but was unsure if I would see them on their stop here in LA. This post just removed all doubts.

  • Joe

    If widespread public drunkenness would be a greater indication of a country’s reason and intelligence, then I am glad that I live in the United States. With the alcoholism rates in Europe, such as the Czech Republic, so staggering why should I take any comfort in the smug satisfaction in these words?

    This is not intelligence, it is some skewed sense of superiority that yields no truth, and refuses accountability for one’s own failings. I do not always agree with the United States, and I certainly am no patriot, but please: think for yourselves.

  • An intelligent poster

    He’s saying that we have more rules than freedom, and I absolutely agree. I love what this country was, but now everybody’s in crisis mode, and it just keeps getting worse and worse.

  • hotsauce

    blah… blah… blah! Man, Japan sure is great! Get to drink whenever and everywhere I want to, smoke at any establishment, at anytime (would be cool if I smoked cigs). But for some reason, I miss the states.

  • 36Thoughtless

    Whether or not I agree with his main point, none of his examples are good examples of what he’s talking about with the notable exception of the working visa application process.

    I have to say that I agree with Joe on this one for the most part.

  • Dr. Satan

    The Ocean’s lyrics are considerably more ‘intelligent’ then this.

  • Carn

    ‘With the alcoholism rates in Europe, such as the Czech Republic,’

    Unfortunately, the Czech Republic and all other eastern-European countries are not the European countries he is talking about. I’m Dutch (and while it’s not allowed to drink on the street over here, as it isn’t in many western European countries) we do have a mild drugs policy and I`m pretty sure that we are one of the countries with the lowest statistics regarding drugs use/abuse.

  • CrapMcPoopin

    Intelligent poster, i commend you.

  • Bryan

    Right. So drinking in the street and going into stores with one’s shirt off indicate maturity and reason. Try walking around without a shirt in France (barring the beach, of course). You’ll be treated like a caveman.

  • Joe A.

    The above quoted part wasn’t the most pointed aspect of what he wrote. This I think instead is:

    “After leaving Chicago that morning, I turned on the radio to a show called “Truth for Life” and listened to a preacher. It was about raising children according to the bible. That guy was suggesting that parents ask their kids certain questions at an early age and give them the answers straight away; questions like “How did Adam, the first man, come onto this Earth?” – “God created him”; “What did God create him from?” – “The dust of the soil”; “Why did Adam and Eva sin?” – “Because they ate the forbidden fruit that they were not supposed to eat”; “Does Adam’s original sin affect us today?” – “Yes, it does, we are born in a sinful condition”; “What can we do to escape this condition?” – “Nothing at all, but walk humbly on the side of God”; etc.

    He pointed out that it was not important that their kids would eventually understand and reflect upon all that, they should rather get accustomed to these answers as truth, they should accept them and approve of them out of habit rather than reason and reflection, for this would be the only way to lead them to God and to keep them from rebellion. For every child, and this is where the sermon became really terrifying, is born under this sinful condition, and every typical expression of adolescence and individuality, every “I want to do what I want to do”, is nothing but an expression of every child’s corrupted nature. “No matter how cute they are”, he said, “they are evil”, and he started giving examples that would illustrate their corrupted nature, even before adolescent rebellion: their merciless crying, their insatiable hunger (greed!), and their insisting expressions of will (”Mom, I want ice cream!”).

    At this point it became clear how much he despised children, how much he hated the fact that a baby is pooing and crying. For him, a baby was nothing more than a vegetable, a plant that needed strong guidance in its growth, for otherwise it would turn into weed. The priest was implicating that parents do not and shall not love their children for its own sake, but that they shall love God through their children, and thus put up with all the pooing and crying, because it is God’s will, because having children, and all the depraved physical measures that have to be taken to get pregnant in the first place, are the will of God. So according to his interpretation of the bible, children are just a carrier, just a medium, just a burden we have to put up with because God wants us to do so. We passed by a huge building, and there was a slogan and it read “you don’t need digital cable to tune into God”.

    Rules and regulations, and a confidence in authority rather than reason – after listening to this sermon, I had a better understanding of where all this is stemming from. The influence and power of the Christian church and morality, which has declined rapidly since the days of enlightenment almost everywhere in Europe, is still so strong here that people are more used to authority, to abiding by rules and regulations, rather than following reason.”

    ps… having myself been in the States and Europe, I have to say America is backwards in a few ways because of the conservative base here. For example: We still don’t have a national health care system because whenever it gets proposed then someone shouts “Socialism” and it dies right there. I don’t hear about groups in England calling for private Health-Care. I wonder why?

  • Joe A.

    Also note that Robin did have nice things to say (like I said above, having been in Europe I can’t thank America enough for having free refills of soda and water from coast to coast).

    “America. There are certain aspects and qualities of life here that are awesome. Free refills, huge meals, real Mexican food, no highway tolls on most highways, the fact that you’re allowed to drive ridiculously huge trucks, like our 30 feet RV, without a special license… The nowadays seemingly peaceful coexistence of people from all over the world in a cultural melting-pot like NYC is fascinating. America may not have the same history as Europe, yet some of the most interesting contemporary art and music are coming from this country and have had a significant and lasting impact on the European scene – to the degree that nowadays, in a lot of ways Europe seems to follow everything that is happening in the US with a 6-12 months delay. This is also true for metal. Bands like Mastodon or Gojira have been big in the US before anyone took serious notice of them in our home country, Germany. I have picked these 2 because one is a European and the other an American band. But it doesn’t make a difference. If a band breaks, it happens in the US, not in Europe. And then there is the nasty side of the story… The whole metalcore trend originated in the US and washed over Europe like a giant radioactive tidal wave coming from the west, contaminating every Swiss mountain village with more cheesiness than the motherland of cheese had ever seen before…”

  • Thom

    I think that Robin is right to say some of that about america, I am an american and our belief system and willingness to be asses to those of a nother land is apparent by the comment by RobInjection. I have talked with Robin several times myself and he is not a Nazi or anything like that, and to blanket a whole nation for their past is bullshit. think of the impression that our own president has left on the world already.