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	<title>Comments on: ALBUM SALES WAY DOWN IN &#8217;08; UNSURPRISINGLY, RECORD BUSINESS MORALE ALSO DOWN</title>
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		<title>By: Nathan Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-176157</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WYLDSKY is coming...but I hear their stuff will not be easy to get until Jan 2009, so J. Cantrell maybe correct...a great Rock album usually resonates with all music listeners, dynamic.  I have not heard anything, except for a few sneak peaks of those guys in No. Cal bay area and the person/company who is launching them sold a computer company in Silicon Valley because he loved their music so much (heard on a local radio station interview last month).   I don&#039;t think people on this site listen to oasis, I sure in the heck don&#039;t, very cliche messages and boring...all of us on this site want to hear some great new rock music!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WYLDSKY is coming&#8230;but I hear their stuff will not be easy to get until Jan 2009, so J. Cantrell maybe correct&#8230;a great Rock album usually resonates with all music listeners, dynamic.  I have not heard anything, except for a few sneak peaks of those guys in No. Cal bay area and the person/company who is launching them sold a computer company in Silicon Valley because he loved their music so much (heard on a local radio station interview last month).   I don&#8217;t think people on this site listen to oasis, I sure in the heck don&#8217;t, very cliche messages and boring&#8230;all of us on this site want to hear some great new rock music!</p>
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		<title>By: alex montenegro</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex montenegro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats easy (naming at least one album worth buying in 2008)....

The new Oasis record which is due in October. The boys still make great music, the only band surviving the 90s... hell it&#039;s Oasis. I don&#039;t buy records either! Unless it&#039;s Oasis - I dont care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats easy (naming at least one album worth buying in 2008)&#8230;.</p>
<p>The new Oasis record which is due in October. The boys still make great music, the only band surviving the 90s&#8230; hell it&#8217;s Oasis. I don&#8217;t buy records either! Unless it&#8217;s Oasis &#8211; I dont care.</p>
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		<title>By: Burnt</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-90461</link>
		<dc:creator>Burnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you fucked? it&#039;s on every site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you fucked? it&#8217;s on every site!</p>
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		<title>By: Revrant</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-89890</link>
		<dc:creator>Revrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You realize your band is small and absolutely nothing in the business and you can basically never sell something yourself, and it&#039;s just arrogant of you to blame torrenters(I might add there are NO torrents involving your band).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize your band is small and absolutely nothing in the business and you can basically never sell something yourself, and it&#8217;s just arrogant of you to blame torrenters(I might add there are NO torrents involving your band).</p>
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		<title>By: Burnt</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-89194</link>
		<dc:creator>Burnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put out your own cd and then you&#039;ll really have a hatred for this. Check out the band I play in, &quot;Curse Your Name&quot;. We put out a cd on itunes, smartpunk and all those places for $10. I think you can get it on Amazon for $8. It&#039;s disheartening, I think we may have sold 100, I doubt it. There is some group of dickheads that play a game with other dickhead groups to see how many torrent sites they can put shit on and then brag about it. Anyway, every motherfucker in the world has this album now, and we will never be able to get a deal now off of it. Yay! Check it out, you will like it, I promise.

Burntman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put out your own cd and then you&#8217;ll really have a hatred for this. Check out the band I play in, &#8220;Curse Your Name&#8221;. We put out a cd on itunes, smartpunk and all those places for $10. I think you can get it on Amazon for $8. It&#8217;s disheartening, I think we may have sold 100, I doubt it. There is some group of dickheads that play a game with other dickhead groups to see how many torrent sites they can put shit on and then brag about it. Anyway, every motherfucker in the world has this album now, and we will never be able to get a deal now off of it. Yay! Check it out, you will like it, I promise.</p>
<p>Burntman</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-89002</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@noyokono

If the bitrate is high enough, no-one can tell the difference between flac and mp3. Hats off to Amazon for selling VBR 0 encodes...transparent to everyone (if you think you can tell the difference between a VBR 0 encode and a lossless source, I suggest you do a double blind ABX test so you can prove yourself wrong)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@noyokono</p>
<p>If the bitrate is high enough, no-one can tell the difference between flac and mp3. Hats off to Amazon for selling VBR 0 encodes&#8230;transparent to everyone (if you think you can tell the difference between a VBR 0 encode and a lossless source, I suggest you do a double blind ABX test so you can prove yourself wrong)</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88775</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;singles&quot; format for selling songs is not a new concept. Those little 45s from yesteryear were the precursor to today&#039;s download singles, only now you have the freedom to pick and choose (and preview) the &quot;singles&quot; you want. It&#039;s odd how the current generation (whatever we&#039;re calling it these days) thinks it invented everything that&#039;s new. Take a look at every 13-year-old&#039;s shaggy haircut, then look at a yearbook from 1977.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;singles&#8221; format for selling songs is not a new concept. Those little 45s from yesteryear were the precursor to today&#8217;s download singles, only now you have the freedom to pick and choose (and preview) the &#8220;singles&#8221; you want. It&#8217;s odd how the current generation (whatever we&#8217;re calling it these days) thinks it invented everything that&#8217;s new. Take a look at every 13-year-old&#8217;s shaggy haircut, then look at a yearbook from 1977.</p>
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		<title>By: Muttweiler</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88730</link>
		<dc:creator>Muttweiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the rest of you folks but why should you have to pay $8.99 to download any old turd when the same album is like $2-3 on ebay where the shipping then makes it cost prohibitive. I mean how much does it really cost to send shit from their server to yours. Make an album download $5-7 dollars maximum to make me forget about not having a booklet or put the lyrics and liner notes on a digital format. Anyways I&#039;ve been mega cheap ass and been using Pepsi points to buy some of my downloads on Amazon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you folks but why should you have to pay $8.99 to download any old turd when the same album is like $2-3 on ebay where the shipping then makes it cost prohibitive. I mean how much does it really cost to send shit from their server to yours. Make an album download $5-7 dollars maximum to make me forget about not having a booklet or put the lyrics and liner notes on a digital format. Anyways I&#8217;ve been mega cheap ass and been using Pepsi points to buy some of my downloads on Amazon!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Malice</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88712</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Malice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good album from 2008, Veil of Maya.</description>
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		<title>By: manny</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88680</link>
		<dc:creator>manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the labels have been cultivating a &#039;singles centric&#039; model since the end of the &#039;alternative&#039; boom of the early &#039;90&#039;s and they are now reaping the &#039;benefits&#039;

No one wants to pay for a piece of shit album that has 1 or maybe 2 good tracks on it. People have done that for years and illegal DL&#039;ing was a chance for revenge for all those shit albums people bougth thinking the song on the radio was indicitive of the overall quality. 

I still buy plenty of CD&#039;s (I like the booklets, I&#039;m a sucker for &#039;em) I buy DL shit from Amazon too, however, I can&#039;t remember the last time I haven&#039;t DL&#039;ed at least a few tracks to determine if it was worth it or not. 
Imeem.com and myspace have made it possible to stream without having to DL which is good, but the fact remains, I rarely buy shit anymore unless I&#039;ve had a chance to fully preview it. 

I doubt I&#039;m unique in that stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the labels have been cultivating a &#8216;singles centric&#8217; model since the end of the &#8216;alternative&#8217; boom of the early &#8217;90&#8242;s and they are now reaping the &#8216;benefits&#8217;</p>
<p>No one wants to pay for a piece of shit album that has 1 or maybe 2 good tracks on it. People have done that for years and illegal DL&#8217;ing was a chance for revenge for all those shit albums people bougth thinking the song on the radio was indicitive of the overall quality. </p>
<p>I still buy plenty of CD&#8217;s (I like the booklets, I&#8217;m a sucker for &#8216;em) I buy DL shit from Amazon too, however, I can&#8217;t remember the last time I haven&#8217;t DL&#8217;ed at least a few tracks to determine if it was worth it or not.<br />
Imeem.com and myspace have made it possible to stream without having to DL which is good, but the fact remains, I rarely buy shit anymore unless I&#8217;ve had a chance to fully preview it. </p>
<p>I doubt I&#8217;m unique in that stance.</p>
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		<title>By: MULLETHEAD MOE</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88617</link>
		<dc:creator>MULLETHEAD MOE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GEEZ</description>
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		<title>By: concerned metalhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned metalhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEE NOT ONE POSTING ABOUT A GREAT ALBUM FROM 2008?!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEE NOT ONE POSTING ABOUT A GREAT ALBUM FROM 2008?!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Revrant</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88555</link>
		<dc:creator>Revrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>noyokono: Yes, being a geek myself I know all about that service, it and the new Napster are great stuff, but the quality is pretty easy to tell between MP3s and Lossless when using good speakers really, the thing I find impossible is the difference between the various lossy formats, and the difference between the various lossless formats as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noyokono: Yes, being a geek myself I know all about that service, it and the new Napster are great stuff, but the quality is pretty easy to tell between MP3s and Lossless when using good speakers really, the thing I find impossible is the difference between the various lossy formats, and the difference between the various lossless formats as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Corrosive Fate</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88530</link>
		<dc:creator>Corrosive Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually now that I think about it, I probably would be turned on lol</description>
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		<title>By: Corrosive Fate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corrosive Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously the cd will always be there, but just saying that that artists need to expand.

I feel like most artists/labels would be horrible investors because they don&#039;t know how to diversify. Advertising the same lame shit on mtv and myspace just won&#039;t cut it. Look to other forms of media, like i said, expand to Hollywood.

 Or even porn for christ sakes. I rather hear blastbeats than the same cheesy almost-funky bass groove. Imagine hearing Behemoth&#039;s &quot;Slaves Shall Serve&quot; in a bondage porno. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll be turned on but I&#039;ll be extremely amused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously the cd will always be there, but just saying that that artists need to expand.</p>
<p>I feel like most artists/labels would be horrible investors because they don&#8217;t know how to diversify. Advertising the same lame shit on mtv and myspace just won&#8217;t cut it. Look to other forms of media, like i said, expand to Hollywood.</p>
<p> Or even porn for christ sakes. I rather hear blastbeats than the same cheesy almost-funky bass groove. Imagine hearing Behemoth&#8217;s &#8220;Slaves Shall Serve&#8221; in a bondage porno. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ll be turned on but I&#8217;ll be extremely amused.</p>
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		<title>By: 36Thoughtless</title>
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		<dc:creator>36Thoughtless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about all this: I still love having the physical cd.</description>
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		<title>By: Corrosive Fate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corrosive Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody ever look at the Indian market?

They combine the music and movie markets together, YEs they do make horribly gay musicals thatll even make elton john&#039;s stomach churn....But they are rolling in the cash. 

By mass marketing the two biggest forms of media, TOGETHER nonetheless, how hard can it be to sell stuff? Ever notice that movies are downloaded less then music?

Or you don&#039;t even need to make gay musicals, just have metal soundtracks, which is probably the better idea. How many movies would be better if you heard Opeth or something in the background?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody ever look at the Indian market?</p>
<p>They combine the music and movie markets together, YEs they do make horribly gay musicals thatll even make elton john&#8217;s stomach churn&#8230;.But they are rolling in the cash. </p>
<p>By mass marketing the two biggest forms of media, TOGETHER nonetheless, how hard can it be to sell stuff? Ever notice that movies are downloaded less then music?</p>
<p>Or you don&#8217;t even need to make gay musicals, just have metal soundtracks, which is probably the better idea. How many movies would be better if you heard Opeth or something in the background?</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this post sure got the commenters out!

Regarding AVERSION&#039;s comment: Word. Give me a whole album in FLAC for $2-5 and you have yourself a deal!

Just was at a concert, saw Psycroptic. I bought two t-shirts and didn&#039;t have enough money for a CD, so the vocalist (working his own merch table, mind you) just gave me the CD for the change I had. Said he wanted me to have it.

And you know what? I&#039;m gonna buy more Psycroptic shit now. WAKE UP, RIAA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this post sure got the commenters out!</p>
<p>Regarding AVERSION&#8217;s comment: Word. Give me a whole album in FLAC for $2-5 and you have yourself a deal!</p>
<p>Just was at a concert, saw Psycroptic. I bought two t-shirts and didn&#8217;t have enough money for a CD, so the vocalist (working his own merch table, mind you) just gave me the CD for the change I had. Said he wanted me to have it.</p>
<p>And you know what? I&#8217;m gonna buy more Psycroptic shit now. WAKE UP, RIAA!</p>
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		<title>By: laurie monk</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/07/08/album-sales-way-down-in-08-unsurprisingly-record-business-morale-also-down/#comment-88499</link>
		<dc:creator>laurie monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;but the Internet has democratized the playing field,
Since when has the theft by illegal sharing and downloading of copyrighted material been democratizing the playing field?

European law makers are already beginning to act

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/06/europe_drafts_law_to_disconnect_filesharers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;but the Internet has democratized the playing field,<br />
Since when has the theft by illegal sharing and downloading of copyrighted material been democratizing the playing field?</p>
<p>European law makers are already beginning to act</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/06/europe_drafts_law_to_disconnect_filesharers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/06/europe_drafts_law_to_disconnect_filesharers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AVERSIONLINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>AVERSIONLINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that new models wouldn&#039;t overcome free downloading.  Will they eliminate it?  Hell no, but I would spend hundreds of dollars tomorrow, and probably every damn month, if all labels/bands, old and new, woke the fuck up and digitally distributed their material (in print and rare, out of print classics) - without DRM via Amazon, eMusic, iTunes, on their own, etc. - for fair, low prices.  I mean, think of all the forums and blogs and shit out there posting rare old albums.  If that shit was all available for like $5 an album or something at a high bitrate, don&#039;t you think people would fucking pay?  It&#039;d be much easier to find the stuff, way faster, far better quality, etc.

Easier said than done, I know, but I can&#039;t help but think that shitloads of people are actually losing easy money right now.  And if they don&#039;t care, fine, even better, fuck greed and just let the music be there for people to experience, but... there are just soooooo many awesome albums out there in the world... if they were all available as mp3&#039;s... there are a lot of people that would pay if the price was right (i.e. not charging the same for downloads as for a CD).

A damn shame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that new models wouldn&#8217;t overcome free downloading.  Will they eliminate it?  Hell no, but I would spend hundreds of dollars tomorrow, and probably every damn month, if all labels/bands, old and new, woke the fuck up and digitally distributed their material (in print and rare, out of print classics) &#8211; without DRM via Amazon, eMusic, iTunes, on their own, etc. &#8211; for fair, low prices.  I mean, think of all the forums and blogs and shit out there posting rare old albums.  If that shit was all available for like $5 an album or something at a high bitrate, don&#8217;t you think people would fucking pay?  It&#8217;d be much easier to find the stuff, way faster, far better quality, etc.</p>
<p>Easier said than done, I know, but I can&#8217;t help but think that shitloads of people are actually losing easy money right now.  And if they don&#8217;t care, fine, even better, fuck greed and just let the music be there for people to experience, but&#8230; there are just soooooo many awesome albums out there in the world&#8230; if they were all available as mp3&#8242;s&#8230; there are a lot of people that would pay if the price was right (i.e. not charging the same for downloads as for a CD).</p>
<p>A damn shame&#8230;</p>
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