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WES BORLAND JOINS MARILYN MANSON; HILARITY ENSUES

 Friday, August 15th, 2008 at 11:09am by

Marilyn Manson was always one of the most staunch anti-Limp Bizkit activists during that band’s heyday – so the announcement that Bizkit guitarist Wes Borland is joining his band seems kind of odd.

Luckily, Manson, ever the clever media manipulator, managed to do some damage control with this kind of hilarious statement:

“We have a new guitar player that’s gonna play for the first time tomorrow; it’s the first time we’ll play on stage [together]. His name is Wes Borland and he used to be in a really terrible band that he left because he felt that it was a destructive force in art.”

Wow. So that’s pretty great.

Borland has been making the rounds lately, ostensibly denouncing his former life as a terrorist against human ears and good taste, but to be honest, I don’t quite buy it; lest we forget, the guy has already quit, and re-joined, Limp Bizkit once, and since past behavior is always the best indicator of what will future behavior will be, when the inevitable Limp Bizkit rap-metal nostalgia tour DOES happen, there’s no doubt in my mind Borland will be there, cashing in just like everyone else.

I mean, c’mon: this little union clearly isn’t all about some deep artistic desire for Manson and Borland to work together. Manson says that “We don’t know how permanent [Borland's membership in the band] is,” but clearly, with his own popularity flagging, he’s hoping that Borland will bring in some new fans who normally wouldn’t check out a Manson show (which Borland actually might); as for Borland, I guess doing guitar clinics in Jakarta didn’t pay as well as he’d hoped (He has some new band, too, but I don’t think they’re exactly burning up the charts).

But here’s the biggest question I’m curious to see answered: since everyone in Manson’s band basically has to play dress-up and look all “spooky,” does this mean we’ll soon see the return of Borland’s tiki statue make-up?

-AR

P.S. Borland isn’t the only one denouncing his past in order to ensure his future: check out this inadvertently hilarious article from a recent issue of Entertainment Weekly. Fred Durst has a good publicist, eh?

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  • jesse

    I really don’t mind Wes Borland too much. I guess he’s the lesser of the evils at hand. Manson has always had that over distorted industrial guitar sound(that sucks) and I think Wes could maybe actually bring a genuine heaviness and groove to Manson’s music if they can actually work together.

    For all I know both of them will get eaten by Rosie O’Donnell before any of that happens though.. so I’ll just shut up.

  • tim

    you guys should start doing the “press release commenting” again, like in the “some new band” link.

  • GODOFGUNS

    as the person who turned wes onto manson in ’95 (pre-bizkit) i can assure you he’s always been “all spooky” and has always had a flair for playing dress-up.

    he is one of the most innovative and talented guitarists in rock.

    he just so happened to have been in one of the most ridiculous bands of all time.

    he always wrestled with the fact that bizkit wasn’t exactly the most intelligent outfit musicially because he actually had a good time writing music with those guys.

    and you can’t deny the paycheck was good back then.

    manson is the leading “artist” in rock music’s mainstream and this union is one of the best things that could have happened.

    not all music needs blast beats and cookie monster vocals to have credibility, weight or value.

  • ..and introducing Vladimir Putin on the skins!!

    “..has always had that over distorted industrial guitar sound(that sucks)…”

    I hate it when people have no idea what they’re talking about. God, you suck.

  • groovyghoul

    I’m jazzed…Borland is a great guitarist. (Limp Bizkit chews)

  • Guy

    Who is Wes replacing?

    Is Jerodie White (Twiggy) still back with Manson?

  • McWeen

    “Who is Wes replacing?

    Is Jerodie White (Twiggy) still back with Manson?”

    Twiggy wrote most of the music but live he almost always played bass. If Wes is just doing touring with them right now and not a new album it won’t shake too much up.

  • TedTedPoleyPoley

    is that WCW Sting smoking a cigarette?

  • b-rad

    eh, i see nothing wrong with this collaboration. Wes is a good guitar player and an eccentric type which is perfect for Manson. if consider that Manson has usually hired unknowns to play guitar that didn’t really work out well [i.e. Zim Zum & John 5]. These guys were simply not cut out for the type of touring that Wes is familiar with. [Granted, John 5 is an amazing Bluegrass musician and from what i understand i the touring guitarist for Rob Zombie right now.]

    Wes seems to be a good fit to me, and a great chance for him to move further away from Fred Douche. good for him.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kristinahaswings Princess

    this could be cool.

  • Rob

    Wes Borland isn’t too bad a guitarist, I guess. I thought Big Dumb Face was really neat when I was a teenager, the guy’s got some chops, but it’s not like him playing for Marilyn Manson is like him joining Beneath The Massacre or something. Manson’s music is big, dark, dumb arena rock no matter who is behind the axe. And I say the words “big, dark, dumb arena rock” with nothing but love, because I am a big fan of Manson, but let’s not confuse ourselves as to what the music is.

    I would also like to add that I am looking forward to seeing the behind the scenes DVD of the upcoming tour, where Manson rubs Borland’s face in his crotch, throws fast food at him and calls him a fucking asshole ad nauseum. Should be fun.

  • http://onyamomschin.edu deez nutz

    “is that WCW Sting smoking a cigarette?”

    LOL

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  • FleischBerg

    There isn’t going to be a nostalgia tour by Limp Bigshit, and if so than it will never be a succes!

  • jesse

    @..and introducing Vladimir Putin on the skins!!

    Uh, no. Maybe you have a different opinion on their guitar sound.. but I’ve heard a lot of Manson in my time, and seen them a couple times, and that’s how I feel about it. Regardless, Wes Borland’s style is a lot better than Twiggy’s in my opinion.

  • hell76lx

    this is 4 b-rad ; jonh 5 “unknown”?please,i live on the other side of the planet(portugal,lisbon) and i know perfectly well wo he was before he started playing with manson

  • Erin Carter

    this is 4 b-rad ; jonh 5 “unknown”?please,i live on the other side of the planet(portugal,lisbon) and i know perfectly well wo he was before he started playing with manson

    Yeah for real, i couldnt figure out that statement, John 5 was around well before Manson picked him up, successful solo career and toured as David Lee Roth’s guitar player for a while. He is and has been cut out for touring and is also not primarily known for his bluegrass work.

  • Uh, what?

    @ jesse

    you’re a fucking moron.

  • The Metal Nerd

    Anyone even remember that Chris “ARPMANDUDE” Arp of Psyopus actually tryed out for Limp Dick? Wes is good. Ben Weinman is WAY better. Chris Arp is a god. Manson Sucks.Shitty psuedo industrial gothic shit for frequint Hot Topic shoppers and 14 year olds who havent discovered/aren allowed to listen to DM. No thanks.

  • Revrant

    For a nerd you can’t spell terribly, well, perhaps The Metal Geek would be more befitting?

    I’m of course offended by calling Ben Weinman way better than anyone, but in this case, I suppose it’s true, Wes is more capable of creating something that sounds like music, and his eccentric personality might click well with Manson, but Weinman is more technically skilled.

    Let’s not kid ourselves though, Manson is the Ozzy of our generation, and Wes won’t be sticking around, he’ll likely be yet another guitarist in the growing list that have performed with Manson.

  • NuclearMonkey

    It’s so awesome to bash on people who have done something with their life. I mean I know it’s easy, but hey, it’s admirable. I’m sure that all of you right now are hanging out on your computer and counting your wad of dollar bills with the $20, $50, or maybe even $100 bill on the outside.

    You’re probably drinking redbull and can’t wait to visit your girls house to get up in that. I can picture her now, she is probably wearing track pants with some word of empowerment written on the back side, like princess or spoiled.

    You guys are cool.

    Awesome stuff, keep it up!

  • http://www.bernardallison.com jason

    The person who wrote this article Does not play a instrument. Nor, has every toured the world. To play music and make a life with your instrument takes thick skin. This article was wrote by a person who will never see that kind of fulfillment of success and money in his entire life. please keep this fact in mind when reading this article. singed -international Jazz musician .j

  • Name

    Black Light Burns isn’t exactly burning up the charts? Reality check, BLB sells more records than at least 95% of Death Metal bands. Instead of bashing on a guy who actually came up with some innovative and original shit, why don’t you take a good long look at how stale Death Metal is, and what it’s regressed to. That shit is so tired, it’s not even funny, I love metal, but Death Metal in general is boring, unoriginal, and uninspired. Whoever wrote this article, you frankly suck shit, because not only are your points either invalid or poorly/loosly supported, you’re trying to be this anti-Limp Bizkit badass, but you come off as a fag. You’re not a journalist, you’re a WWTDD.com wanna be blogger who needs to take high school english again, because clearly you don’t know how to write to save your dumbass life.

  • Feisty Cadaver

    Wes will do just fine as guitar front man for the short time we all know he’ll be there but let me say this he is no John5 (Lowery)….John is one of the best guitarist of our time and it would be worth your time to check out his solo material…its fantastic..and lets not forget Tim Skold who is a very talented versatile musician with great stage presence.

  • Ben Richards

    It’s amazing how uninformed the writer of this article is. Have you heard Black Light Burns? Have you seen Wes’ paintings? ( http://www.myspace.com/wesleyborland ) You can’t say the guy is not an artist. I’m sure you have denounced things you did in your early twenties as well. And Limp Bizkit just announced a reunion and guess who isn’t there “cashing in”…. You guessed it: Wes.

  • Feisty Cadaver

    Ben I agree with you…Wes’s paintings and drawings (yes he does that too) are incredible. Myspace gives a glimpse of some of his art but he has done a lot more…truly gifted..

  • David

    Wes is WAAAY too good for either Limp Bizkit OR Manson. One word: BigDumbFace.

  • king kobra killer

    dude who wrote this shit is a retard. Wes left Limp Bizkit in the 1990′s cause he said it was retarded and he felt like he “sold his soul” by playing for them. Now you are saying he is conveniently talking shit about Limp Bizkit so he can get something new going? He talked shit on them when he was in the band! Wes and Marilyn are both artists along very similar lines, why do you think this union is a fake stunt? You are a fucking loser B.

  • Chippie Guitarzan

    Hey, I have an idea… Buy the music you enjoy. It’s all to easy to bash someone because you PREFER something or someone else, but in reality it’s respectable that anyone is doing what they enjoy and making money at it. I’ve enjoyed all of the forementioned “artists” to varying degrees, but respect ALL of them for having the balls and determination to get to the level of success they have achieved. Personally, as a 25 year musician/ music theory student/ certified journeyman luthier, finding theoretical depth to any of the “cookie cutter” music is rare. Just check it out (if and when) it comes to fruit, and if it jams, give respect. If it’s not what you dig, you could always run off at the mouth and make yourself look like a know-it-all idiot with insecurity issues… Obviously there is plenty of that. Other than being a gossiping drama queen it’s absolutely pointless. Love what you do, respect what “they” do, and just remember it’s all about the great emotional release and spirit of fun.
    Smell you later…..

  • Chris

    Wes is in actuallity a likeable and decent guy with above-average guitar skills who happened to play in the biggest piece of crap in the history of music.Why?Probably money.
    He just re-joined that crapfest losing any cred he received from leaving them in the first place.

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  • Cobrainyourface

    Limp is gonna make you wanna slap your schwester!!

  • sdfgh

    “when the inevitable Limp Bizkit rap-metal nostalgia tour DOES happen”

    You called it, he rejoined.