And yes, you’re right playing the “I’m more metal than you” game is childish… it’s also exactly what you did when you came in here. I’m not going to quote all the examples of you doing just that. There’s too many. So, I’ll just post the first:

“I have been listening to metal for years, and I came to appreciate only the true metal.
In other words, you.. comparing RATM with Slayer… that’s basphemy !!
Either you’re a raper / hip-hopper … or just a stupid kid. Whatever the case .. you lose.
I have done more for this music thank you’ll ever do..
While I was trying to help metal grow stornger by helping bands, promoting this music… you were downloading porn and RATM torrents at the same time.”

Yeah, you don’t sound closed minded or childish at all… bwahahaha Wow, I almost said that with a straight face. Keep “growing metal stronger” by talking shit about the fans who are supporting it today though. That’s going to do a whole lot of good for the genre. You can continue to tell people that RATM and whatever other band doesn’t fit your personal point of view isn’t metal. That doesn’t make you right. It makes you closed minded.

Oh, and I didn’t say anything about you only considering the extreme bands metal. And I understood that they weren’t meant to be complete lists. That comment was meant more as a jovial poke at you than to be serious.

My issue with your point of view is that you’re more concerned with genre and keeping metal inside a box than you are with the music. You didn’t say anything negative about RATM’s music. You are just pissed because they infused their music with an influence that you don’t like. I don’t like rap. I hate rap. But “rap metal” I’m fine with as long as it’s done well. You know why? Because my problem with rap isn’t the vocals. It’s the lyrical content and the general lack of musicianship. Both of those are not issues when the same vocal style is incorporated in a more complete and less “ghetto-centric” musical style.

See, that’s paying attention to the music, not the genre.

Now look learntoswim .. you said something about my first and second list? Dude, wake up and think (you told me you can ) .. the 5-6 metal bands that I mentioned in my first post .. were merely some examples .. it wasn’t the ‘true metal band list’.

The second enumeration of bands was an addition to the first one, because you said I consider METAL only the extreme bands.

I can give 100 more examples of good metal bands.

(Really hope you understand this time!)

Now .. moving on. Do a survey among the metalheads… and see the general point of view… and tell me how many of the old metal listeners agree with these crap combination of metal and rap?

You seem to miss my point !!! In my posts I didn’t, not for a moment, tried to show someone I’m more metal than him .. that would be extremely childish.. .. .. I WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT RATM ISN’T METAL !!!!!!

Another thing ! RATM .. may have some good songs… fuck it.. maybe their whole discography is good .. but then again, it’s not METAL! The fact that I don’t like it .. it’s just my point of view .. and it personal concerns my tastes. I haven’t said: “DON’T LISTEN TO RATM”

As I said.. this was my last post… but I want to know your opinion :

You told me I was narrow minded, because I don’t accept rap-metal as a metal genre… but tell me this. Would you me open minded if someone will make a band of disco-metal, pop-black-metal, house-metal .. or anything of this sort?

Looking forward to hearing your reply on this matter.

Cheers!

So, what you’re trying to say(and failing miserably. Want to say I live in my parents’ basement next?) is that I’m stupid because I find all this concern you have about genre completely arbitrary and an asinine endeavor? Uh, ok. But if you ask me, worrying so much about what is metal doesn’t seem very “metal” to me. I never said you had to like RATM. You’re perfectly welcome to say, “I don’t like RATM because I don’t like it when metal is mixed with rap.” Everyone has an opinion. But when you come here with your, “GRRR, I’m more metal than you,” bullshit it is so incredibly cliche and comes across as nothing more than the small penis compensation that it really is.

If you’re so concerned about the state of metal then you should also be concerned about all the stupid ass infighting that these random genre labels cause amongst metal fans. You should worry less about what kind of metal a band is than if they are putting out something of quality(whether you personally enjoy it or not). That would be what the bigger man would do. That would be what a true metal fan would do. A person who really cares about the state of metal would realize that things always evolve and change and intermingle with other influences(oh and fruit plus milk equals a smoothie, retard. Yum). Then that person would pick out and throw away the refuse in the bunch and support the quality despite their influences. A true metal fan would be able to say to himself, “Gee, I sound exactly like all those old farts who talked shit about metal when it first came around.” A true metal fan would not turn into a crusty old curmudgeon and say shit like, “that’s not true metal. You kids today don’t know what you’re doing. Get off my lawn.” May sound like an old argument to you but that’s because, apparently, that’s exactly what you’ve turned into and people must tell you all the time.

You’re not a true metal fan anymore, you’re no better than a scenester sitting at home watching his new favorite hard-emo-trance-screme-core band on MTV. You’re just at the opposite end of the spectrum. Stop worrying about what genre something falls into or what influences they may use, enjoy what you fucking enjoy and let others do the same, bitch.

(and if you can read my fucking posts and think to yourself that I have a 30 IQ, you really are pathetic)

Check out my blog for a review.

“Extreme” has little to do with it, the only thing that fits my personal definition of “true metal” are those that helped create it and inspire a generation to take up the guns for themselves(which includes two bands you listed), aside from those two, that list is just fine.

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You guys are pathetic… STOP AVOIDING THE FACT THAT IT’S A STUPID COMBINATION OF HIP-HOP WITH METAL !! It’s like fruits with milk … which equals diarrhea ..

Revrant – ‘true metal’ : Virgin Steele, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Motorhead, Iced Earth… (are these too extreme to you)

Oh yeah, you go an hide under this incredibly stupid argument … if what you’re saying is true.. that we should be open-minded about these sorts of mixtures… well… fuck it .. let’s all make house-metal, trance-metal … let us shit on what others have worked for DECADES to achieve …

Think first, and when your IQ reaches 30… do reply !

That’s looks pretty shitty from where I stand. You were asking what is true metal? Well… here are some examples : Ancient, Amon Amarth, Kreator, Bewitched, Venom, Slayer, Sodom, Carcass, King Diamond, Deicide… need I say more?

These were the pioneers in metal, and they still give a hand on keeping this genre pure.. keep it unmixed with rap and hip-hop shit.

You seem to know, (or at least that’s what you’re trying to show) a lot about metal, so tell me… WHAT THE FUCK IS RATM… other then gay-metal or wannabe-metal… ?

You kids get so aggressive when someone tries to show you that you are all fakers, posers and metalhead wannabe..

C’mon… be enjoyably stupid again. Please..