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	<title>Comments on: BRAINIAC PROTO-PROG SLUDGESTERS INVADE LOWER MANHATTAN: MOUTH OF THE ARCHITECT, INTRONAUT, &amp; BEHOLD&#8230;THE ARCTOPUS @ THE KNITTING FACTORY, NYC &#8212; 8/8/08</title>
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		<title>By: SO WHAT THE F&#8217;N *F* IS A WARR GUITAR ANYWAY?!? &#124; MetalSucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>SO WHAT THE F&#8217;N *F* IS A WARR GUITAR ANYWAY?!? &#124; MetalSucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be in secret use around the world by some of the shreddiest face-melters out there. A commenter on my recently-posted review of 8/8/08&#8217;s Knitting Factory Intronaut/Mouth of the Architect/Behold... made mention of the instrument (which is used by one of B&#8230;tA&#8217;s shred monkeys &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be in secret use around the world by some of the shreddiest face-melters out there. A commenter on my recently-posted review of 8/8/08&#8217;s Knitting Factory Intronaut/Mouth of the Architect/Behold&#8230; made mention of the instrument (which is used by one of B&#8230;tA&#8217;s shred monkeys &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/09/16/brainiac-proto-prog-sludgesters-invade-lower-manhattan-mouth-of-the-architect-intronaut-beholdthe-arctopus-the-knitting-factory-nyc-8808/#comment-147505</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have to have hair below your bottom lip to be in this band?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have to have hair below your bottom lip to be in this band?</p>
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		<title>By: ashas</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/09/16/brainiac-proto-prog-sludgesters-invade-lower-manhattan-mouth-of-the-architect-intronaut-beholdthe-arctopus-the-knitting-factory-nyc-8808/#comment-147345</link>
		<dc:creator>ashas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just to make a point being drunk - 
Alcohol and metal is a match made is heaven ;)

even better match that Gibson and Marshall
;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to make a point being drunk &#8211;<br />
Alcohol and metal is a match made is heaven ;)</p>
<p>even better match that Gibson and Marshall<br />
;)</p>
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		<title>By: ashas</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/09/16/brainiac-proto-prog-sludgesters-invade-lower-manhattan-mouth-of-the-architect-intronaut-beholdthe-arctopus-the-knitting-factory-nyc-8808/#comment-147343</link>
		<dc:creator>ashas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ teaches_of_peaches

I know what you mean with Intronaut thing. I always loved bands that mixed genres because that way it gets boring a bit later ;)

but have to admit that the more older I get the more non-progressive music I tend to dig.
I think that these days may fav band is Darkthrone - I think that&#039;s THE non-progressive neadrethal you can get
;)

Sometimes, when I meet bands - i find that those people are super-nice or assholes, and sometimes i build my opinion on bands almost exclusively based that way and not the actual music.

maybe it&#039;s just me, but i tend to hate bands who&#039;s music i dig, but i know they&#039;re assholes.
And there&#039;s a fair share of bands that don&#039;t sound turbo-cool to me but I respect them as being really passionate and cool persons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ teaches_of_peaches</p>
<p>I know what you mean with Intronaut thing. I always loved bands that mixed genres because that way it gets boring a bit later ;)</p>
<p>but have to admit that the more older I get the more non-progressive music I tend to dig.<br />
I think that these days may fav band is Darkthrone &#8211; I think that&#8217;s THE non-progressive neadrethal you can get<br />
;)</p>
<p>Sometimes, when I meet bands &#8211; i find that those people are super-nice or assholes, and sometimes i build my opinion on bands almost exclusively based that way and not the actual music.</p>
<p>maybe it&#8217;s just me, but i tend to hate bands who&#8217;s music i dig, but i know they&#8217;re assholes.<br />
And there&#8217;s a fair share of bands that don&#8217;t sound turbo-cool to me but I respect them as being really passionate and cool persons.</p>
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		<title>By: teaches_of_peaches</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/09/16/brainiac-proto-prog-sludgesters-invade-lower-manhattan-mouth-of-the-architect-intronaut-beholdthe-arctopus-the-knitting-factory-nyc-8808/#comment-147124</link>
		<dc:creator>teaches_of_peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, the only time ever I can only truly get into B...tA is when I&#039;m drunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, the only time ever I can only truly get into B&#8230;tA is when I&#8217;m drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: teaches_of_peaches</title>
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		<dc:creator>teaches_of_peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ashas

I see your point, but at the same time, to some extent Intronaut abandon the progression-through-repetition spiel that is oh soo common in post-metal.

As for Callisto, their early material is good though a bit on the generic post-hardcore side. On True Nature Unfolds they went head-deep into post-metal, but on Noir they really decided to stray from the already tired genre, and added jazzy saxophone bits and odd time signatures in some places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ashas</p>
<p>I see your point, but at the same time, to some extent Intronaut abandon the progression-through-repetition spiel that is oh soo common in post-metal.</p>
<p>As for Callisto, their early material is good though a bit on the generic post-hardcore side. On True Nature Unfolds they went head-deep into post-metal, but on Noir they really decided to stray from the already tired genre, and added jazzy saxophone bits and odd time signatures in some places.</p>
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		<title>By: drag the waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>drag the waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this show in Boston and agree with just about everyone here.

What I don&#039;t get is how popular the &quot;beardo&quot; look has become with these types of metal shows.  So many beardos at this show I thought I was going to choke on a hairball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this show in Boston and agree with just about everyone here.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t get is how popular the &#8220;beardo&#8221; look has become with these types of metal shows.  So many beardos at this show I thought I was going to choke on a hairball.</p>
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		<title>By: RollingThunder</title>
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		<dc:creator>RollingThunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, I rarely weigh in on anything for 2 reasons, i&#039;m far too skinny and opinions count as much as video views on Youtube.  However, I do feel that a different perspective can help all of us percieve these bands as they are ment to be percieved.

MOTA - By far the best band of their sub-sub-sub genre, unrelenting, gloaming and powerful.  The point of this band is to remind you that sometimes, most of the time actually, things will not get easier and thats a fact most people don&#039;t want to face.  Well done sirs.

Intronaut - Fans of metal beware, very hard to follow, to me it seems they have taken really great aspects of post-hardcore and technical death metal only to mash them up without a common denominator.  This band is extrememly impressive and thats about it.

B...tA - If you have any question about the intentions of their music, then you&#039;re obviously thinking too hard.  The musicians in question sure know where they&#039;re going with this ultra-spazzy tech grind.  Colin Marston, someone to keep your eye on DOMINATES in instrument aptly-named the Warr guitar, an umpteinth stringed demon i&#039;ve only seen before in a lithium induced slumber. Alienation is deffinatly a feeling you get when seeing them perform, especially if your a mediocre-to-good musician...or just a fan of music in general.  With that being said, I think it&#039;s awesome they are able to do this with musical notation...(I have hard time alienating people with words they understand) Fear of the unatainable, fear the Arctopus!

With my weight sufficiantly thrown around I would just like to add that this was the second best show of the summer.  An awesome drama-free and over-all friendly crowd as well as inviting/down to earth bands, it was an intimate atmosphere that only places like the Tap Bar can provide.  

Ohh and a super-falling-over-herself drunk chick with a nice fat ass works too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, I rarely weigh in on anything for 2 reasons, i&#8217;m far too skinny and opinions count as much as video views on Youtube.  However, I do feel that a different perspective can help all of us percieve these bands as they are ment to be percieved.</p>
<p>MOTA &#8211; By far the best band of their sub-sub-sub genre, unrelenting, gloaming and powerful.  The point of this band is to remind you that sometimes, most of the time actually, things will not get easier and thats a fact most people don&#8217;t want to face.  Well done sirs.</p>
<p>Intronaut &#8211; Fans of metal beware, very hard to follow, to me it seems they have taken really great aspects of post-hardcore and technical death metal only to mash them up without a common denominator.  This band is extrememly impressive and thats about it.</p>
<p>B&#8230;tA &#8211; If you have any question about the intentions of their music, then you&#8217;re obviously thinking too hard.  The musicians in question sure know where they&#8217;re going with this ultra-spazzy tech grind.  Colin Marston, someone to keep your eye on DOMINATES in instrument aptly-named the Warr guitar, an umpteinth stringed demon i&#8217;ve only seen before in a lithium induced slumber. Alienation is deffinatly a feeling you get when seeing them perform, especially if your a mediocre-to-good musician&#8230;or just a fan of music in general.  With that being said, I think it&#8217;s awesome they are able to do this with musical notation&#8230;(I have hard time alienating people with words they understand) Fear of the unatainable, fear the Arctopus!</p>
<p>With my weight sufficiantly thrown around I would just like to add that this was the second best show of the summer.  An awesome drama-free and over-all friendly crowd as well as inviting/down to earth bands, it was an intimate atmosphere that only places like the Tap Bar can provide.  </p>
<p>Ohh and a super-falling-over-herself drunk chick with a nice fat ass works too.</p>
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		<title>By: ashas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ teaches_of_peaches

yes - you have a good point regarding basslines in Intronaut&#039;s new album. Truly is jazzy, and yes - it elevates them from the rest of the clique.
But overall feel is that they belong in that clique nevertheless.

Regrading Callisto - heard about them when they toured with High on Fire some years ago - didn&#039;t like it that much, have to admit. Will give the spin to that record you mentioned. Thanks for the tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ teaches_of_peaches</p>
<p>yes &#8211; you have a good point regarding basslines in Intronaut&#8217;s new album. Truly is jazzy, and yes &#8211; it elevates them from the rest of the clique.<br />
But overall feel is that they belong in that clique nevertheless.</p>
<p>Regrading Callisto &#8211; heard about them when they toured with High on Fire some years ago &#8211; didn&#8217;t like it that much, have to admit. Will give the spin to that record you mentioned. Thanks for the tip.</p>
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		<title>By: teaches_of_peaches</title>
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		<dc:creator>teaches_of_peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you will about the tired NeurIsis genre, but I think the percussion and the amazing basslines alleviate them above many other &quot;post-metal&quot; bands. This band is as much jazz as it is metal as it is post-rock.
While MotA are good, it&#039;s understandable how they&#039;re definitely a part of the whole schtick. At the same time, I still think they&#039;re better than Cult of Luna will ever be.
As for B...tA, they&#039;re unarguably good musicians, but the music is only good for playing for friends: hey check out these 5 minutes of complete fucking zaniness.

One band I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen mentioned on this site, that truly deserves it, is Callisto. Their latest album - Noir, is a fucking masterpiece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you will about the tired NeurIsis genre, but I think the percussion and the amazing basslines alleviate them above many other &#8220;post-metal&#8221; bands. This band is as much jazz as it is metal as it is post-rock.<br />
While MotA are good, it&#8217;s understandable how they&#8217;re definitely a part of the whole schtick. At the same time, I still think they&#8217;re better than Cult of Luna will ever be.<br />
As for B&#8230;tA, they&#8217;re unarguably good musicians, but the music is only good for playing for friends: hey check out these 5 minutes of complete fucking zaniness.</p>
<p>One band I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen mentioned on this site, that truly deserves it, is Callisto. Their latest album &#8211; Noir, is a fucking masterpiece.</p>
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		<title>By: ashas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Intronaut are the future of metal than something&#039;s wrong. 
They&#039;re just a bit hipper than Pelican who are just a bit hipper than The Ocean who are just a bit hipper than Meshuggah.  

The way NeurIsis thing got old quckly, so will this.

This is no future of metal - just it&#039;s present.

And that will be old pretty soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Intronaut are the future of metal than something&#8217;s wrong.<br />
They&#8217;re just a bit hipper than Pelican who are just a bit hipper than The Ocean who are just a bit hipper than Meshuggah.  </p>
<p>The way NeurIsis thing got old quckly, so will this.</p>
<p>This is no future of metal &#8211; just it&#8217;s present.</p>
<p>And that will be old pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caught this show last week.....loved Intronaut, completely missed Arctopus, who were headlining for some reason. I enjoyed Mouth of the Architect, but it dawned on me that i&#039;ve seen 9,000 bands  live that want to be Neurosis, and yet...i&#039;ve never seen Neurosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caught this show last week&#8230;..loved Intronaut, completely missed Arctopus, who were headlining for some reason. I enjoyed Mouth of the Architect, but it dawned on me that i&#8217;ve seen 9,000 bands  live that want to be Neurosis, and yet&#8230;i&#8217;ve never seen Neurosis.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since this is too much to read, i just looked at the picture and laughed at the guy on the left it looks like he has a curly wig haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since this is too much to read, i just looked at the picture and laughed at the guy on the left it looks like he has a curly wig haha.</p>
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