oh now what?

emo rules?

Since I’ve been listening to Fall of Ideals and This Darkened Heart for a long time now, when I heard Overcome, I was surprised by Phil’s use of clean vocals. Right off the bat, Before the Damned, Chiron, and Relinquish sounded pretty good. But songs that took a while to get better were Two Weeks, Days Without, and A Song for the Hopeless. Two Weeks could be played on a mainstream rock station, but still sounds pretty damn catchy, just not like All That Remains. Overall, I think that this album could’ve been stronger if they took out 4 or 5 songs.

And Two Weeks kicks ass just as much as Before The Damned, or any other song on the album.

Fuck you. I can’t speak for everyone but generally, chicks into metal aren’t dumb and we sure as shit don’t pick our music taste based on who sings in their music. Bands like Killswitch might get people into heavier stuff but that doesn’t mean it’s the only thing they appreciate. Even fucking Machine Head have used the dirty-verse/clean-chorus thing and anyone who says they aren’t amazing has shit for brains.

I’m as disappointed in the constant clean vox as anyone but ATR remains one of my favourite bands. Overcome isn’t as good as The Fall Of Ideals but it grows on you.

Also “Am I the only one that thinks the track Two Weeks is complete garbage?”

Honestly? Yeah, probably. Catchy doesn’t always have to be a bad thing.

Overcome takes a little bit to grow on you, at first I thought it sucked compared to TFoI but after some spins it’s actually approaching it in goodness.

Terrible album? No. If you’re going to complain about digital effects and corrections, then you’re going to complain every time an album comes out, regardless of the band, because they all have them. Next if you complain that the sound is generic, remember that it’s an All That Remains album. If you were expecting them to sound like someone different then you should have bought something different. The guitars sound like typical Oli and Mike Martin. The only legitimate complain that you can have is that there is the layered clean vocals. If you don’t want clean vocals in ATR then go buy behind the silence and Solitude and nothing else.

Lastly, I heard that Firewind covered Believe In Nothing recently and Apollo has some mean pipes.

However, the new songs (they played Chiron and Two Weeks) sound MUCH better live.

In other news, Trivium also played that night and they put on one of the worst performances I have seen since The Number 12 Looks Like You.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say metal isn’t doing very good, because while there are quite a few bands (i.e. Killswitch, All that Remains, Soilwork etc.) that have our girlfriends on their nuts for the clean vocals, not everyone is going that route. I completely see what you’re saying about the girlfriend thing though. Killswitch Engage and All that Remains are probably the two biggest culprits as far as that goes.

@Anthony

You wont be disappointed man. The Fall of Ideals is a fucking great listen. It gets a little tired after 3 or 4 listens but not for lack of heaviness.