BLOGRONAUT: BRAINWASHED BY THE MEDIA
Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 12:30pm by Sacha Dunable
Yeah! Almost votin’ time! I mean boy, with my own life being so dull, the time for some good reality TV is definitely now. I can’t wait to see who steals THIS election! It’s looking tough, as the Republican side is playing hardball once again. Apparently, hundreds of absentee ballots were mailed out this week with an oh-so unfortunate typo in the presidential category, reading “Barack Osama.” Some very official person came forward to say that it was merely a typo and not intentional. Are you fucking kidding me? I’m not even suggesting it was necessarily a call made by the McCain campaign, but someone HAD to have premeditated that. The letters B and S aren’t even near each other on the keyboard! And for no one to proofread the official absentee ballots? Ah well, so what if Obama’s name is misspelled on the ballot. I’m sure it will still be a nice and fair election, because who would actually let a typo slip into their consciousness and affect their judgment of character?
In conversations with people I know, trying to be realistic about just how much impact this stuff has on the masses who see it, it will usually get dismissed as so incredibly ridiculous and irrelevant to the real factors considered when choosing a new president. Like, “who is actually so ignorant that they would vote Sarah Palin into the white house?” It’s a valid argument, but try really thinking about it. Do you know someone who never graduated high school? How about someone who has been to jail? Or someone who goes to church every week? Visions of that late 20’s juggalo dude you worked with at Subway that summer between 10th and 11th grade might pop into your head. Uncle Kurt, your stepmom’s shiftless layabout tweeker of a brother might make an appearance too. Soon, you’ll realize that there are all kinds of people in this world with bad decision making skills. So yeah, when you go through youtube and see the 45 second quote-out-of-context videos of Obama and McCain made by their respective opposers, there are probably more “Yeah he’s dumb! Look!” and “Omigawd, who ACTUALLY supports the hunting of those poor wolves?” comments than you think. Remember Howard Dean? A simple war cry cut up and played repeatedly out of context cost him the election in 2004. Did people think that he was insane or something? That he climbed the political ladder the whole way up, gained supporters, made friends, all the while hiding his hootin’ and hollerin’ maniac side from an unsuspecting American public? Only to foolishly let it out at the most inopportune moment possible, right before the election? Boy, they really foiled the most elaborate political conspiracy imaginable! In my head, I flash to a supposed dialogue set in a middle-American home on a Sunday afternoon:
Wife – “There is no way I’ll let that man govern me and my children!”
Husband – “That boy is crazy! Now put the game back on, woman! And a round of beers! Am I right guys? WOOT!”
People are so simple minded that complex issues are reduced to plain black and white. Being pro-choice means you enjoy abortions, if you get riled up like any normal American man, you are not fit to be president, and that if your last name rhymes with a known terrorist’s first name, you two are obviously in cahoots. Such is the nature of capitalism and democracy. Money truly is power. When you own stuff, you cooperate with other people who own stuff so that you can both own more stuff. Then with your combined money and stuff you control the people’s information by owning the media. If 90% of the people could think for themselves, none of these people would be anywhere close to being elected leaders. I bet something like 40% of Americans think that Saddam Hussein was part of Al Qaeda or something along those lines. There would have been no justifying our pre-emptive invasion of Iraq if we had a responsible, non-corporate owned news media. I don’t own a TV, but I am consistently offended any time I happen to see a news show, especially when an election is coming up. It leaves me hopeless and saddens me that I live among people who are so easy to trick. Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected governor of California. This guy had no political resume, and people voted for him. Why? Because he’s famous? Probably. It wasn’t even a close election. This just proves that politicians are just puppets. For who? The guys who own everything.
So is it just coincidence that the same year we have our first black presidential candidate, we have a woman vice presidential candidate on the opposing side? No way. What better way to counter poking at America’s white guilt with appealing to America’s working moms and horny dads (which the Democrats invented in the first place with Hillary Clinton)? I mean, it’s too bad we only have a two party system, it would be interesting to see what a few extra parties could bring to the table (whoops!). I think my point is that these people are puppets on the same hand in a lot of ways, and we’re fucked. I hate that I’m going to vote for a Democrat every time, knowing this time that I’m doing it only because the other guy personifies everything that I hate, even more than he does. I guess this blog isn’t meant to instruct you on how to vote (although please don’t vote for McCain/Palin) as much it is about wanting everyone to stop letting the media make decisions for them.
-SD
You actually read youtube comments? Now that takes a stomach. What’s worse about that Howard Dean clip is that every sounds around him is muted so you only hear his pterodactyl roar. Doesn’t sound nearly as weird with thousands of other crazies screaming along with him.
Good points all around, except Arnold actually made a pretty solid governor. With all the shit California went through since he took office, he’s managed far better than the previous governors. Was brought up on Bill Maher the other day, but Jimmy Carter and Abe Lincoln were both presidents with little to 0 political experience. It’s long been known experience has just about as much to do with being a powerful leader as cheeseburgers do with roller hockey. As for this election year, just another case of douchebag v. turd sandwhich. I think our path is set no matter which candidate is chosen. Doesn’t help that the third party candidates don’t truly provide anything better. Especially that giant facepalm ron Paul.
Killer new album by the way, Intronaut dudes
i agree. if i had any say in the matter, i would not allow candidates to use campaign funding to produce & air negative ads… only positive stuff telling why you ARE the better choice rather than telling people why the other guy is NOT the right choice… the only media coverage would only be televised debates and interviews… and you know, the idea of a few extra parties is a great idea. it would certainly shake things up a bit and make people do some actual thinking.
Though McCain doesn’t have one, the Obama ad I enjoy is actually just that b-rad, he sits there and tells you what he’s going to do, and it ends, that’s the kind of ad I want.
As for the Osama thing, which is the only thing I’m going to comment on despite this being a great read, I believe McCain or some of his supporters were at one point selling shirts that directly compared his name to Osama’s. When you’re dealing with ignorance that’s going to happen, it’s just not acceptable though, I can’t help but ask why S? Why not Ovama? Why not Onama? Ogama? Hell, I’d take an Ohama or an Ofama, but Osama? Really? Whoever is in control of the process, I wouldn’t let that slip with whoever made that “mistake”, someone should get fired, really.
he doesn’t want to instruct us on how to vote but he tells us not to vote for McCain/Palin. that makes a lot of sense
The puppeteer is the new world order.
As the T-shirt says, “never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups”. I just pray this year the cattle decide that 4 more years of the same b.s. might be bad for your health. I completely agree with the VP selection being a foil to a black candidate. Unfortunately with most folks they vote based on 2 subjects gun control and abortion and don’t go much deeper.
JD – word. Funny how he stresses how stupid and believing of everything they’re told the general American public is throughout the whole article, then comes out and does the same thing every other halfwit asshole has said lately – don’t vote for McCain, just ‘cuz I said so and I don’t need to actually give any reasons as to why!
Fuck that. Yes, the general American citizen is about as smart as a fucking McDonald’s cheeseburger. Yes, they think that if the media says it, it must be true, and that the media can’t have any sort of bias, but if they do have bias, it’s justified somehow. HOWEVER, regardless of who anyone is going to fucking vote for, instead of saying “Vote for McCain!” or “Vote for Obama!” why not GIVE SOME FUCKING FACTS AS TO WHY YOU’RE GOING TO VOTE THE WAY YOU ARE, AND THEN PROMPT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY RESEARCH THINGS THEMSELVES TO COME TO THEIR OWN DECISION?
If the goddamn media would actually stop telling people WHO to vote for, and instead tell them to research things themselves, we’d be much better off, and have a general public that actually knew about the candidates. Of course, the American public is as lazy as it is stupid (and the stupidity is derived directly from the laziness), so that’ll never happen, and we’ll continue to have growing numbers of uninformed, non-educated dipshits voting for the people who run the country, based almost completely on what the media says. If Katie fucking Couric came out and told the average American housewife to vote for Hillary, who do you think would be the VP-select right now? Sure as shit not Biden. I don’t know anyone who even likes Biden, much less wants to see him in (granted, a figurehead) position of the executive branch.
The root problem is the American public wants to be told what to do and what to believe, because it’s easy.
to JD- that was definitely a joke man.
Well said, Sacha, though reducing the other side to stereotypes lowers us to their level.
also, i’d just like everyone to watch this incredibly horrifying video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
Yeah I can’t wait till when the election is over and the music hits… N-W-O. Then Hogan and Nash come walking out, and Scott Hall stumbles incoherently in tow.. And then BAM! Fucking Powerbomb to Obama, Legdrop to McCain.. Hall tries unsuccessfully to Razor Edge Palin & Biden at the same time and falls to the ground much to the amusement of the other two, then Hogan grabs the mic and says “We’re taking over!”
Ahh only in a dream.
go green party!
Scary video Sacha, even more so the comments, it’s amazing how ignorant people are on both sides.
@DemonicLemming: You mean the dumbfucks who will also listen to Hannity, who just TO-fucking-DAY again brought up Michelle Obama’s comment about feeling really good about being American? You mean THAT dumb public who listens to THAT media (talk radio) and thinks this is a real issue, when in fact the quote is largely taken out of context when criticized?
C’mon man, there are dumb voters in both parties. Dumb voters who think Hannity, Savage, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Beck, Larson, Miller, Hewitt, Ingraham, Humphries aren’t part of the media (hello! They ARE.) Dumb fuck liberals who like Obama because he says the word “change”, but don’t stop to ask what the hell that actually means.
Lemming, I’m a moderate, so I actually find myself looking very critically at both parties (and some minor parties, as well).
Consider this: ABC is owned by Disney, a giant corporation. NBC is owned by GE, a giant corporation. CNN is owned by Time Warner, a giant corporation. CBS is owned by Viacom..well you get the idea. Exactly how do these media giants benefit by pushing for a Democratic agenda, as you seem to presuppose?
Not to mention that some of the talkers I mentioned above have TV shows on so-called liberal outlets (MSNBC). Take the combined listenership and viewership (and website readership) of these talkers and it’s in the millions. They are mainstream no matter how hard they try to spin themselves as counter-mainstream.
And one last thing to consider: Network news ratings are on the DECLINE. Newspapers are losing readership at a record pace. So the “mainstream” media (so-called) is LOSING its impact.
Sammy, is right. Also, think about the pay checks hannity and Rush get. Rush got 400 million till 2016 and hannity got 100 million till 2012 I think. 500 million dollars isn’t chump change. Give me one non-mainstream media platform that can afford to give 500 million between two employees?
@Sammy – my comment was directed at the American public in general, regardless of political lines. There was halfwits on both sides – “Hurr hurr Osama sounds like Obama! Hurr hurr! He must be a terrorist!” and “McCain is just another Bush, I can’t explain how BUT HE IS BECAUSE THE MEDIA SAID SO AND THAT MEANS I’M RIGHT AND YOU’RE WRONG!”. &c, ad nauseum.
However, to deny that the majority of news outlets aren’t at least partly liberal is ignoring the obvious. There doesn’t have to be any “payoff” for the different news groups – one can have an opinion or preference without benefit of being paid, or otherwise compensated, for holding an opinion that way. Yes, some talking heads, and some very few networks, are more conservative in their bias, but in general, most media outlets are heavily biased towards the liberal side. I have reasons as to why I believe that’s so, but they’re not short and this isn’t really a viable place to discuss them.
Also, remember that while hard-media news (papers, etc), and news on tv might be losing impact, you didn’t mention numbers of hits on the websites for the respective news groups. I’d be willing to bet that, on the whole, online hits for news are way, way up, even while tv/paper news ratings continue to drop. A good bit of that is likely because online news is both more convenient, and much more up-to-date on a minute-to-minute and hour-to-hour basis. I don’t think established news groups are losing their impact, so much as seeing where the majority of their viewers are going to get the news shifting.
I agree, both sides of the political aisle have their imbecile talking heads, etc etc, and both sides have a plethora of idiots as described in my previous post. Being a neo-con on some issues, and very liberal on others, I can’t really call myself a moderate, but I don’t fit into either party and would really like to see the two-party system demolished. However, I am all for people of every single political affiliation there is actually trying to actively educate themselves on the candidates and issues at hand before taking a stance. If an uneducated douche is all for McCain, then reads up and switches to Obama’s side, bully for him. Same for an Obama supporter switching to the McCain camp, or people from either of the aforementioned groups deciding to support a third-party candidate. I think with educated and informed voters, there would be a LOT more accountability in office for elected officials to actually do what they say, not try to lie about or gloss over previous things they’ve done, and they’d be much less able to play fuzzy math games to gain votes. Educated voters would know when a candidate was spouting bullshit and leave.
The current political system and climate in the US isn’t going to fix itself from the top. The Average Bob is going to have to decide for himself that he’s tired of the shit, and actively work to learn about what’s going on, in order to give the voting class the power they need to oust the shitbirds in Washington (and state capitols, for that matter), and get good people into office.
Anyone heard the new Metallica album yet?
Concerning the news outlets and their megacorporation owners, another big conflict of interest is the discussion of the bailout plan. Take CNBC, for example; they’re owned by GE. GE would profit directly and indirectly from this plan, so pretty much anybody on CNBC who says anything about the economic stimulus plan is talking bullshit, because they’ll say the sky is purple if someone higher up says to.
It’s damn near impossible to just get the fucking news without a political or business oriented slant on it. And it’s not like they haven’t always been doing it, but over the past few years it’s just become so blatant it’s sickening.
Well, a more apt McCainism might be “He’s old and out of touch but I don’t know how/why!” over that, as he’s voted in sync with Bush most of the time, which is where that jargon comes from. I’d be fascinated to see what you’re “liberal” about Demon, you seemed like a hardcore Neoconservative back on the other Hard R, and claiming liberal bias in the media furthers that.
I’m all for pushing for objectivity in the media, but it’s pretty difficult to be truly objective when 1 of the 2 parties represents (if elected) 1) billions of dollars of tax cuts to only the wealthiest 1% of the nation, which includes (among many others) all those corporations that own the media ensuring that any kind of “fair and balanced” news coverage becomes more and more hopeless, 2) an absolute turd of a healthcare plan, 3) an across the board spending freeze which is suppose to help rebuild the economy (?? of course only freezes spending on domestic programs to help rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, but doesn’t freeze any spending on defense, defense contracts, nuclear proliferation, drilling, supply-siding, naked short-selling, etc. etc. basically only freezes programs that would actually help rebuild our economy, our school systems, basically any and everything that would help restore some of the lost integrity of our nation), 4) a “plan” for the economy which is textbook supply-side economics, the single biggest (and most corrupt) farce in the history of modern economics, and, indeed, in the history of modern politics, 5) several impending (and unnecessary) wars and a continued occupation, none of which (if you’ve done your homework) are in the interest of our country, but will none-the-less be responsible for thousands and thousands of more innocent lives being taken, and the perpetuation of the abuse of our great military, which is supposed to DEFEND our country, not represent us as the ultimate bully on the global playground (look out Iran, we don’t like you!)……
Not to mention a running mate (and potential President!) that couldn’t name a single news publication that she’s read, couldn’t name a single Supreme Court decision besides Roe v. Wade, couldn’t identify, or even hint at any of the fundamentals of the Bush Doctrine, and what was that thing about Putin and how when he “rears his head in our airspace, uh, ya know, where’s he gonna go?? It’s Alaska!!” Talk about foreign policy! Putin is going to attack the US by way of Alaska!! Nice. Biden’s extensive foreign policy experience could never compare to that!
Oh yeah, and there’s the whole “Troopergate” thing where she was found by the state of Alaska (hers!) to have violated the state ethics law by abusing her power in an attempt to get her sister’s ex-husband fired. Of course this can’t be true, because she said herself the other day when the finding was announced that she was very happy to have been cleared of any legal or ethical wrongdoing. Whew! And for a second there I actually believed the official report!
So DON’T vote for McCain/Palin, not because I said so, but because of some of the reasons listed above. Do your homework and you’ll find many more…
I’m not saying Obama/Biden is the solution to all of our problems- I’m well aware of some of the holes in their campaign which, however, should not be confused with the blatant lies and deception invoked by the McCain campaign (and indeed most political campaigns) But it’s a step in the right direction, unless of course you make over $250,000 a year AND none of the issues listed above mean anything to you.
Barack Obama is the first Democrat since John F. Kennedy that could (and I say “COULD”) make a big difference. And for this, he’ll probably be assassinated if he does in fact win. But to me, it’s worth a shot, no pun intended ;)
@Revrant: I am careful never to argue “he/she voted with/against Bush 95% of the time” because let’s face it, most politicians at that level vote the party line most of the time. I think it sucks, but it’s the way of the world. I would love to see a politician actually live up to the promise of “reaching across the aisle”.
@david: I agree with your assessment of McCain’s campaign going negative, however if the situation was reversed, and McCain was kicking Obama’s ass in the polls, you’d see the exact opposite. McCain could afford to go “positive” and Obama would get just as dirty. Obama is going Trent Dilfer to win this Super Bowl: Just don’t make a mistake and you’ll win. He doesn’t need the Hail Mary like McCain does.
I am very uncomfortable with either presidential choice at this point. I see a tax increase in my future regardless.
I never intended to put a number on it, I really don’t want to argue that with anyone, anywhere, about that, I was just pointing out where that argument came from.
@ Rev – well, there are quite a few issues I’m pretty liberal on, and as far as being conservative, relatively fewer than the ones I’m liberal on. However, this isn’t exactly the place to put that list up.
And just because someone votes a specific way doesn’t, in any shape or form, make them a “mini-Me” of that person. I could vote the same way on some issues as Joe Lieberman, but I’m sure as hell nothing like Lieberman. That’s an invalid argument, but it seems to be used very often because it’s so easy to keep screaming it to block rationality out.
@ david – what does a VP have to do with an election at all? Last I checked, Cheney hasn’t done shit, Gore didn’t do shit, Quayle didn’t do shit. The position of the VP is a ceremonial figurehead only, so trying to dissuade people from voting for a president based on the inane argument that their VP “isn’t that good” is a bit out there. On top of that, quite a few of your factual statements were opinion (turd of a health care plan? sorry, privitization >>>>>>>>>>>> socialist healthcare programs, just ask Canada and Britain about that), so we come back down to you posing your opinion as fact and telling people to look at that as a reason as to why they should vote a specific way. I won’t even get into the wars because those are a subject in and of themselves and would be impossible to properly debate on a forum like this. As far as taxes, well, if you think Obama’s little plan wouldn’t cause more financial hardships among the lower-middle class and blue-collar workers, you’re wrong. As I said in another post, it WILL come back to bite the middle class, be it through decreased wages and benefits from their companies to balance higher business taxes, etc – there is no way the middle class is not going to have to pay for some of the largest socialist systems discussed yet.
Yeah, great, you tell people to do their own homework – but just like everyone else, you phrase it so people will inherently think worse of McCain’s side and better of Obama’s side. If research isn’t unbiased and rational, it’s as useless as not doing any research at all. I don’t support either side – Obama is an unqualified socialist running on promises that’ll never actually happen, and McCain is too much a conservative (and too much a liberal on other issues) for me to support him. I don’t give a shit who people vote for – we’re fucked either way – but I’m not going to present my case to someone about researching more, while couching everything in an anti-McCain/pro-Obama manner.
If you’re going to tell people to research on their own – great, fine, do it. But don’t toss in all the other shit you said and expect anyone to think you have an unbiased reason behind doing so.
I pretty much agree with the post,
“Or someone who goes to church every week?”
I don’t think that going to church, and generally being religious in any way keeps you for voting democrat. Unless you are a crazy religious zealot, that is.
@DemonicLemming – I don’t expect anyone to believe I have an unbiased stance; I don’t!! I am whole-heartedly ANTI McCain/Palin in this election, not to be confused with being whole-heartedly PRO Obama/Biden. I can agree (to a certain extent) with you that we’re “fucked either way”, but that doesn’t mean I don’t delude myself with the distant possibility that there is still hope for our country! I’m not saying that Obama is that hope (just because he says he is), but I feel like it’s the first step in the right direction this country has taken in a long time. Time will tell, but I’m trying to have faith.
However, a McCain/Palin administration would keep us cruising right along on our current path, which is truly representative of the demise of our once great (well, at least decent) country. The perpetuation of the contemporary Republican party is counter-productive to our progress as a nation, and as a forward-thinking member of the global community. Now if only the Democratic party could grow some balls and a spine, we might just find ourselves on the right path, or at least getting off the path we’re on right now, which will only lead to collapse.
I suppose that it IS just my opinion, but an “objective” review of McCain’s healthcare plan seems to reveal it to be, for lack of a better term, a turd! I actually disagree with Obama’s healthcare plan also, but again, it’s a step in a better direction (in my opinion).
As for the importance of VPs, I think you might want to check again. Quayle may not have done shit (what could that illiterate shitbag do anyway?!), but Gore did quite a bit, and Cheney?? Really?? I don’t normally do much blog reading, let alone commenting, but if you like I can provide a laundry list of things Cheney has “accomplished” while in office, not to mention all his good work in the past (1974, present and active in the rise of supply-side economics! Yay!!
Plus, I scrutinize this particular VP (Palin) candidate more than most, because of concerns with McCain’s age and health (and senility!). It’s not at all out of the question that if McCain is elected, Palin COULD see herself as the acting President! AAAAAHHH!!!
I’d probably make a lousy journalist, but since I’m not one, I try to gather up as many of the facts that I can get my hands on, and make educated decisions based on the opinions I form about the candidates and the issues. So I have no reason to try to be unbiased. Anyone who is completely unbiased is obviously not paying much attention.
You seem like a pretty intelligent individual, and I’d be more than happy to talk about these issues some more with you, if you’re interested. Just don’t expect me to be too fair and balanced :)
@Demonic: You’re right in the NORMALLY a VP is largely a who cares vote. However, when the presidential candidate is 72, the VP candidate takes on a whole new importance.
I expected you wouldn’t respond with any kind of fact, oh well, I tried, I can’t seem to find anything liberal about McCain, I look over his Wikipedia political stances whenever someone says that and quotes something, but unsurprisingly I fail to come up with anything.
Viewing Obama as a socialist is disgusting to me, but whatever, really.
Oh, and “privitization” >>>>>>>>>>>> socialist healthcare programs stuff that up your ass by the way, do you even have the modest fucking comprehension of how utterly fucked those people would be right now if Bush succeeded? Do you? Do you at all? I’d take something socialist that works over a piece of shit that doesn’t and has killed two of my relatives, thank you very much.
@david –
i wish everyone would SERIOUSLY look at what happens when democrats get power. they have absolutely no clue what they’re doing at all. here’s a quote that sums them up quite nicely:
“Liberalism: Wanting to get rid of the roaches and then wondering where all the blue-jays went.”
plus, as far as I’ve seen, the left are the ones acting in a fascist manner, defacing mccain signs, assaulting mccain supporters, pre-emptively playing the race card where none exists, committing mass-scale vote fraud with impunity, ripping palin to shreds because she’s pretty much normal, somehow describing her as racist (?), promising/threatening a race war if the One loses, etc.
the fact that every celebrity and actor comes out strong for the One is enough for me to run to the other choice. be careful what you wish for. anyone who thinks that everything will be sunshine and blowjobs with Obama better get ready for “the big evil corporations” to start passing the costs to the little guy, including job losses. the bottom-up approach does not work. if you give extra cash to the little guy, they will spend it on bullshit. give cash to the “evil rich people” and they will create businesses, i.e. jobs for the dummies that don’t have incentive to start something themselves. but guess what, socialist retards? there is something the “evil rich people” can do for us all – give us an incentive to try harder and succeed. in the socialist, I mean Obama administration, the “evil rich people” get fed on until there aren’t any rich people – then they come after the upper middle class, and so on till there are just mindless eaters with their hands out. if metal teaches us anything (i mean REAL metal, not cute windswept hair with ironic old school metal shirts metal), it is to be fiercely independent, which by its nature repels socialist bullshit.
i think all the “bush is hitler” dummies should let the grownups decide on how to run things. that would give you guys more time look up your parroted “facts” like the “Bush doctrine” – nobody fucking knew what the hell he was talking about, he just made that shit up… looks like you read some retarded blogs. oh wait, the whole media makes this shit up. open your eyes to the real truth. capitalism is the ONLY way to go. you’ll see when the Obama brownshirt truth squad comes to your door. o.k. that’s it – i could go on and on but i need some weed now.
p.s. metal sucks guys (whoever the hell you are) – i loved your site much more before i knew you were part of the hitsquad for the One and his retard sidekick “J-O-B-S” Biden… but I’ve pretty much written off most of my heroes by now. that’s how I know I’m right – everyone I see is so glassy-eyed for this messiah that it allows me to see clearer that it is a terrible mistake coming. kind like the “Prince of Peace” to unite the world in song and worship… uh-oh.
I hope no one even responds to you, because you exemplify everything wrong with the average American Demonic was speaking of, and though you can speak freely, you should be thusly ignored.
Now get back to your pot and leave thinking to the people with brains.
Opinionaut
7734yeah is being a perfect example of how the media and both sides of the campaign use BS rhetoric to help sway people.
“Liberalism: Wanting to get rid of the roaches and then wondering where all the blue-jays went.”
Seriously, did Bill O’Reilly say that?
“plus, as far as I’ve seen, the left are the ones acting in a fascist manner, defacing mccain signs, assaulting mccain supporters, pre-emptively playing the race card where none exists, committing mass-scale vote fraud with impunity, ripping palin to shreds because she’s pretty much normal, somehow describing her as racist (?), promising/threatening a race war if the One loses, etc.”
I’m not doubting you’ve seen something like this in news highlights somewhere. But is it REALLY just one side? I’d like you to watch the video I linked earlier. Oh and VOTE FRAUD?!?!?!?! Reality called….
@7734yeah – Revrant is right: no one should even respond to you. you obviously have delusions of intelligence, and just reading your post is enough for anyone with half a brain and even a remote grasp on what is going on in our country (and in the world) to conclude (and rightfully so) that you have, for lack of a better term, shit for brains.
there’s really no point in getting deep into this one, but since you had a cute one-liner summing up what happens when Democrats are in power, I’ll give you a one-sentence response: The last Democratic President left us with the biggest surplus in American history, and the current Republican President will leave us with the biggest deficit in American History. Think about that, and then go fuck yourself :)
ohhhh – i knew you lefties (or lemmings) would resort to name-calling and certain debate-loser lines such as “no one should even respond to you…” – you’re damn right you shouldn’t if your arguments (or lack thereof) are like this.
@Revrant – what’s exactly wrong with me? i want to decide how my life unfolds and what do do with money that i happen to make by getting up every day and working hard, not some dumbasses in washington that think they know best how to “spread the wealth around”. just by making retarded attacks on people like joe the plumber, who pretty much is a run-of-the-mill non “evil rich person”, it shows what is at work here. attack the messenger, by all means don’t actually address the question, i.e. socialism, and the slippery-slope that represents. if you seriously believe that socialism is the best way to go, then by all means, vote for it. but be careful what you wish for. i also have a great brain that is improved by a few puffs of the good stuff – come on, i am first and foremost, a metalhead.
@Sacha – i love to go toe-to-toe with dismissive types like you. first off, i’m not sure who offered up that definition of Liberalism, but it sure as hell sums it up nicely. hearts in the right place, but unfortunately no brainpower to back it up. here’s one for you – let’s force banks to give loans to dumbasses with no jobs or even in some cases fucking social security numbers and keep defending the process and call those who want to correct it “racists”, then when the whole shit collapses, blame republicans. yeah – that’ll work. and it actually is working, because of brain scientists like yourself who parrot the party propaganda. now to my favorite subject – VOTE FRAUD. why don’t you look up daley, obama’s mentor and buddy. he fucking invented vote fraud – ever heard of the “chicago machine”?. to somehow think that republicans corner the market on this is absurd. you can hmmm and haw all you want, but acorn is corrupt as fuck, and they get money from and endorse obama – facts. right now, ohio has 200,000 registration forms that they CAN’T MATCH TO A REAL PERSON! the idea that people who want to observe the voting to make sure these people aren’t voting multiple times, or voting as a dead person is somehow voter intimidation is a joke. that kind of shit fucks up our whole system. there are cheaters on both sides, but let’s be real about who the professionals are in the vote fraud game. everyone i know who is for mccain doesn’t dare talk about it at work or out at a bar. there is some extreme viciousness out there, and yes, that is a facet of fascism. Someone just fired shots at the mccain bus – imagine what the fuck would happen if that happened to the One. holy shit….
@david – clinton’s surplus is easily explainable and fits nicely in my thesis that democrats don’t know shit about running a country – reagan set us up to win through his policies, and clinton reaped that benefit and also rode the anomalous dot-com bubble until it burst. then there was a little thing called 9-11 that fucked us up. it’s actually incredible that we have done as well as we have considering that – plus a few years of better employment that clinton had. but i guess i’m just a racist. go fuck myself? really? that’s not an intelligent answer – are you in high-school – i hope so. now some weed and a pirated movie before bed. i bet you didn’t know that left-haters could be so cool…
@sacha – one more thing. money certainly IS power, and obama has a shitload of it. everybody though bush was swimming in cash when he ran, right? $200 million or so. let’s see, how much does obama have…? how about $600 fucking million dollars. he brought in $150 million or so last month…! there’s also about a third that no one really knows where the fuck it came from. that’s disturbing. there are reports that some of it is coming from overseas. that’s fucked up. all this money isn’t from average americans that are saying “enough is enough, i can’t take it any more!” he very literally is buying the election with the explicit help of the NYT, MSNBC, NBC, etc… not to mention Fat Joe.
i didn’t really read your article fully, but having read it, it’s not good. there are some points, but mostly lefty bullshit. do you own a che shirt?
wow. you are one of the dumbest people i’ve never met. good luck.
Hey clowns… found this blog by way of Blabbermouth.net and couldn’t help but be amused at what Sascha and most of you commenters have to say about the election.
Obama has pretty much all but bought the election, and the media is his accomplice. No one in the media batted an eye when the voices of the people of Florida and Michigan were thrown out in the primaries because they did not choose The One, so he basically won by default. Then at the Democratic convention they pull another unprecedented move… completely skipping the traditional delegate roll call to automatically nominate Obama in order to suppress the Clinton supporters’ dissent against nominating Obama. Over 18 million people who voted against him in the primaries silenced by the powers that be.
Then when Sarah Palin stole The One’s thunder the very next day, and the McCain ticket saw a huge spike in the polls that eventually saw them leading by the end of their convention the next week, the media went after her like they’ve never gone after anyone else before, attacking her husband, kids, digging up any kind of dirt they could, and all the while silencing and shouting down anyone who tried to do the same to their man Obama (like bringing up William Ayers, Tony Rezko, Pastor Wright, etc. etc. ad nauseum).
And then the whole financial mess comes about, and thanks to the media’s brainwashing, everyone thinks this that Bush is solely to blame for this one, when it’s been the policies of Democrats in congress like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd that have led directly to this economic collapse, but you’d never know that because the Obamedia doesn’t want you to know that. Can’t have their candidate’s party looking bad you know, so just blame it all on Bush and those eeeeeevil Rethuglicans.
And like it or not dumbfucks… 7734yeah is right.
Because just a week before the election, Obama is going to use the millions of dollars his buddies have raised for him to PRE-EMPT THE WORLD SERIES… and air a 30-minute political advertisement spot on ALL the major networks. When has anyone EVER done such a thing like that except in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia? He even paid off the MLB association to have them postpone the World Series’s start time an extra half hour so he could go through with this!
“Change” is coming alright, but unfortunately for all of you sheep out there, it’s not for the better. But it’s ok, you just keep saying to yourselves “Four legs good, two legs bad!!!” oops… sorry, I meant “Yes We Can! Yes We Can!” over and over again and chant for your Dear Leader. Gonna be a fun 4 years I can tell you that!
@C-Dawg: PRE-EMPT THE WORLD SERIES…
Oh my dear God, what will we do?! One game of America’s lamest past-time will be delayed by six whole minutes. I mean, SIX WHOLE MINUTES!! It’s the beginning of the socialist regime, err, the Communist nation, ummm, the take-over of the Pinkos!
Holy shit, you two make Demonic look like the most sane individual I’ve ever met, goes to show you there’s no glass ceiling for crazy.
Oh, and spreading the wealth around? That’s called society, you may recall the Dark Ages of humanity where people didn’t do that, either get a time machine or shut the fuck up and live with it.
Wow!! I told myself I was done with this particular blog/discussion/whatever, but this has just become outright HILARIOUS!! I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry. I feel like doing both.
C-Dawg and 7734yeah: You guys are so horribly misinformed it’s pathetic. It’s actually worse than being UNinformed. I don’t want to write another long rant, so I won’t. But your numbers, references, and general statements of “fact” are off. Sorry. It can’t be a good argument if it’s not true.
Oh and 7734yeah: I’m not in high school. Not even close, shithead. And I think I gave you perfectly intelligent answer before I told you to go fuck yourself.
Wow! A pirated movie?? You ARE cool!