Comments on: THE BLOGRONAUT TELLS PROMOTERS TO FUCK OFF http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/ Your source for heavy metal news, gossip, MP3s, and assorted idiocy. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:21:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: marwutz http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-177242 marwutz Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:37:23 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-177242 Reading this I have to remember how you once played in South Germany (Lörrach to be precise) with the Ocean (!) and no one showed up. I've been to the venue that you played a few times when there were metal festivals and the place always was stuffed. But that one time I went there, I was basically alone in front of the stage! I also could bite my ass now for not knowing your band back then, because I really liked the sound of the music, but wasn't really able to dig into it listening to it the first time. cheers, Mario Reading this I have to remember how you once played in South Germany (Lörrach to be precise) with the Ocean (!) and no one showed up.
I’ve been to the venue that you played a few times when there were metal festivals and the place always was stuffed.
But that one time I went there, I was basically alone in front of the stage!
I also could bite my ass now for not knowing your band back then, because I really liked the sound of the music, but wasn’t really able to dig into it listening to it the first time.
cheers,
Mario

]]> By: Invisible Oranges http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-167063 Invisible Oranges Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:54:55 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-167063 Yes, promoters have to make a living, and no one likes "free riders." But Sasha's demands are quite reasonable. Usually the band holds up its end of the bargain by showing up and playing. Paying the band according to the contract is the very least the promoter can/should do. Promotion is also the least the promoter can do, if only for his/her own self-interest. Food: cooking for many can be quite cheap, esp. if they have such low-level demands like Sasha has - rice, pasta, etc. Alcohol - if Sasha & co. want crappy cheap beer, why not give it to them? It's not like they're demanding Trappist ales. And it would bolster the possibility that Intronaut might play for you again. Yes, promoters have to make a living, and no one likes “free riders.” But Sasha’s demands are quite reasonable. Usually the band holds up its end of the bargain by showing up and playing. Paying the band according to the contract is the very least the promoter can/should do. Promotion is also the least the promoter can do, if only for his/her own self-interest. Food: cooking for many can be quite cheap, esp. if they have such low-level demands like Sasha has – rice, pasta, etc. Alcohol – if Sasha & co. want crappy cheap beer, why not give it to them? It’s not like they’re demanding Trappist ales. And it would bolster the possibility that Intronaut might play for you again.

]]> By: Raul http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-167048 Raul Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:52:58 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-167048 Fuck at least sum TOP RAMEN...fuck the promoters... Fuck at least sum TOP RAMEN…fuck the promoters…

]]> By: ashas http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-167031 ashas Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:19:56 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-167031 being in a touring band - I have to say that having good promoters is really great thing. If you're a promoter, you really DON'T want to make 4 new enemies. That's totally true - but the real truth is in miscommunication. Sometimes I just can't believe how two persons can interpret one thing in totally different fashions. What usually works for me and my band - the more ridiciluous rider you make, the better you end up treated. Unbelievable, but true. I promote shows on not-so-regular basis and can say that I never had 'unhappy campers'. But sometimes bands act totally not cool. I think that anyone in a band should promote shows here and there to see how they don't want to behave when they are a visiting band. being in a touring band – I have to say that having good promoters is really great thing. If you’re a promoter, you really DON’T want to make 4 new enemies. That’s totally true – but the real truth is in miscommunication. Sometimes I just can’t believe how two persons can interpret one thing in totally different fashions.

What usually works for me and my band – the more ridiciluous rider you make, the better you end up treated. Unbelievable, but true.

I promote shows on not-so-regular basis and can say that I never had ‘unhappy campers’. But sometimes bands act totally not cool.

I think that anyone in a band should promote shows here and there to see how they don’t want to behave when they are a visiting band.

]]> By: benbag http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166740 benbag Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:33:31 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166740 fuck shitty promoters man worst thing about touring food and alcohol is an essential for and band, it goes without saying we've had people cook us food before which was the nicest thing, going out of their way to keep us happy U.K sucks fuck shitty promoters man worst thing about touring
food and alcohol is an essential for and band, it goes without saying
we’ve had people cook us food before which was the nicest thing, going out of their way to keep us happy

U.K sucks

]]> By: billybob http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166721 billybob Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:31:02 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166721 I agree with most of this, as a promoter you should be hospitable, reliable, and a good host for the bands you bring in. But at the same time, bands should realize that promoters need to make a living as well in order to be able to do their job properly. Everyone is having a tough time financially these days, and to demand a free ride is a bit much, ideally both parties should work together to the best of their abilities to make touring and promoting a lucrative and rewarding venture for everyone involved. I agree there are some promoters out there that are in it for a quick buck and treat bands like disposable commodities. If a promoter does not have a real passion for music, he/she should be nowhere near this business. Great post! I agree with most of this, as a promoter you should be hospitable, reliable, and a good host for the bands you bring in. But at the same time, bands should realize that promoters need to make a living as well in order to be able to do their job properly. Everyone is having a tough time financially these days, and to demand a free ride is a bit much, ideally both parties should work together to the best of their abilities to make touring and promoting a lucrative and rewarding venture for everyone involved. I agree there are some promoters out there that are in it for a quick buck and treat bands like disposable commodities. If a promoter does not have a real passion for music, he/she should be nowhere near this business. Great post!

]]> By: Conor http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166651 Conor Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:45:55 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166651 I agree with everything said here, I do, but personally I'm more comfortable siding with Dallas's and Vince's rants about how to act like a responsible, competent band. To me, if you wanna make it touring, you cover your own ass. Sure, part of that means knowing who's a decent promoter and who isn't, but this post seems to suggest that shitty promoters are killing the scene. It's not. It's a combination of crappy, softcore bands and crappy, softcore fans. Working as a promoter this day in age might be harder than touring! I agree with everything said here, I do, but personally I’m more comfortable siding with Dallas’s and Vince’s rants about how to act like a responsible, competent band. To me, if you wanna make it touring, you cover your own ass.

Sure, part of that means knowing who’s a decent promoter and who isn’t, but this post seems to suggest that shitty promoters are killing the scene. It’s not. It’s a combination of crappy, softcore bands and crappy, softcore fans. Working as a promoter this day in age might be harder than touring!

]]> By: vegard http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166622 vegard Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:38:44 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166622 hey, maybe this means intronaut will make it over to norway? we're a hospitable (is that the right word?) bunch. hey, maybe this means intronaut will make it over to norway? we’re a hospitable (is that the right word?) bunch.

]]> By: Sacha http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166610 Sacha Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:15:26 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166610 Actually, the last time we were there we played at Fubar, and the guy doing the show was pretty much on point if I remember correctly. We have put up with bullshit there (and practically every other city) before though. Actually, the last time we were there we played at Fubar, and the guy doing the show was pretty much on point if I remember correctly. We have put up with bullshit there (and practically every other city) before though.

]]> By: Adam http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166607 Adam Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:52:34 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166607 St.Louis has particularly stupid promoters. St.Louis has particularly stupid promoters.

]]> By: John http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/10/31/the-blogronaut-tells-promoters-to-fuck-off/#comment-166595 John Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:18:25 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=8640#comment-166595 So, So so so so painfully true. So, So so so so painfully true.

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