THE HARD R: OBAMA WINS!
Friday, November 7th, 2008 at 1:55pm by Dallas Coyle
Well, it’s finally over. The presidential race was a hard fought battle and there was a clear winner that was chosen by the American people. Anyone who reads this blog regularly knows who I voted for. This isn’t a time for gloating. It’s a time of reflection and a time of congratulations to President-Elect Obama. It’s weird to type it but after January 20th 2009, it’ll be President Obama. It gives me goose bumps.
It’s still hard to digest. I’m really proud of the fifty three million people who voted in this election. I am surprised by the result honestly but I also expected it. It’s funny. The conservative talk show radio hosts are saying it wasn’t a landslide victory which I have to disagree. It was definitely a landslide. Not in popular vote but by strategic electoral vote. This was a brutal beating in wits and strategy which I think is way more important.
In 2000, Gore won the popular vote and it went to the courts. It was a close race with Gore taking the popular vote but losing the electoral vote. I used to have a problem with this way of setting up the vote but now I’m starting to understand what it’s about. Popular vote is checkers and electoral college is chess. It’s almost a way of preparing the next president for the strategic planning they have to endure throughout a term. It’s a very impressive win for Obama and he won it decisively. I’m happy about this because I thought if it were close the Republicans would have went to court and we’d still have eight more years of the same BS. Obama should be proud of the American people and the work his campaign did to overcome great odds.
After this historical win the bullshit is getting thicker. Ghetto black people are acting like they won something when in reality they only won a more shitty looking facade. I was walking off the ferry and I heard some asshole say with joy, “Can they still call it the White House?” Two ghetto dudes were laughing with him. I realized an Obama win raises the bar. Clowns like these look more stupid because they have a man of color in the highest office, not a “nigger”. Pardon my language.
This race politics or whatever you call it directly relates to God Forbid. We were a band with a 4/5ths African-American makeup. My brother and I are the same as Obama; Black and White. We were a band that never thought about the complications of being a band like that in a 95% white demographic. We never thought about it because we always believed and still believe metal as a community is color blind. I’m not as pure in my thinking now about it being color blind, but for the most part metal is color blind. I thought if we can make a career in this business then Obama could win the presidency. It makes me proud to be American that we had these opportunities and we actually did something. For the record, God Forbid are made up of some black guys, not niggers.
I don’t want metal heads out there to feel pressured or scared of us or an Obama presidency. I think we bring different influences to our metal and that’s where the buck stops. Would you say we’re upstarts to the scene and we’re going to tear it down and bring our “Black Radical Metal Bands” with us. No, of course not. Whether you voted for Obama or not, the rules stay the same. Obama’s metal community was the American people. He was a high road candidate for the most part and it worked.
It got me thinking alot about our career and how it relates to being the band we are. I sent our new album to Axl and Vince just a couple of days ago and as I sent it I thought to myself, “it’s going to do well.” I don’t think people will see the people in our band and say “fuck them, I can’t buy black music.” We’re metal music and whoever bought our record in the early 2000’s cracked the ceiling to a certain extent. And to the people out there who say us being who we are doesn’t affect the music we write, you’re sadly mistaken.
I think there will be a lot of hate from this point on but I think there will be more than enough hope to stamp it out. For me, this Obama win gets me looking inward and makes me forget about the petty arguments I may have with people. Arguing with people who have their minds set in stone doesn’t do anything but create dissent. Dissent isn’t healthy and I want to live in a more healthy world. I hope our band can help make our world a little better because I think what’s on the outside of something is as important as what’s on the inside. We are a different face for metal these days but fortunately I think our allegiance to the metal scene and our grade A metal will make us more than different faces but a staple in our community.
For those who didn’t vote, think about this: People died for you to vote. That’s more than enough reason to get your ass out there and respect them even if you think the game is “rigged”.
Enjoy your weekend!
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I’ll be honest, I thought this was going to be a gloat-fest. But you surprised me Dallas, and that’s why I always look forward to see what you’ve written each week.
For the most part, metal is color-blind, at least in my experience. I go to shows, and while I’m definitely not the only white guy there, I’m pretty much the only blue eyed, long haired blonde. I grew up in a multi-cultural community, and am proud of it. And most of the time, the metal concerts are where I see the most diversity in a crowd. Around here, most of the thrash shows are easily 1/3 White, 1/3 Hispanic, 1/3 Native American. Go to Warped Tour (which I haven’t been too), and I assume the make up would be much more homogenous. And boring.
And it doesn’t matter who people voted for; the nice thing for me, and what I’m hoping for, is that the reasonable people of this country will stop complaining for a little while, and we can all get something done again instead of shoveling s— at each other.
I do think it’s worth noting, and humorous, that all the amazon ads on the bottom of this post are for “true norwegian black metal”… You’re a metal newb if you hear black metal and think of Living Colour. The Norwegian guys sometimes have a few loose screws.
- Robbie
Nice analogy man. I’ll be honest with you, between your “Metal as Fuck!” t-shirts and the fact that 75% of you are black, I didn’t have any other motivation to stick around for you’re spot on the tour I first saw/heard you on. That show definitely had an impact on how I view black people as a whole. I’ve never been racist or anything, but I just didn’t expect to ever see black people in metal. It sort of opened my mind up to how open minded black people can be.
As long as there are bands like yours, and people like Obama out there, the racial barrier will continue to fade in the years to come. People talk about it like it’s a lost cause, but you guys are proof it’s not.
First of, the only Republican I really wanted to win, won. Sen. Susan Collins knows ME(the state, not me personally).
I first saw GF open for Hatebreed @ the asylum with a group of friends. Upon GF entering the stage we did have a moment of like “is this for real?” and “they aren’t rapping?” def came to mind. After the end of the first song, that moment had ended and we had then embraced this new band whom played one bad-assed set. Head-banging ensued.
My point is that the thought of your band being different for any other metal band changed upon exposure to seeing/hearing what you are able to do. If there was one word to define God Forbid it would be “Metal”, and not “Black”. As you are truly genuine musicians doing what you love, and thank you for it.
Dallas, while we don’t share the same political views (and that’s ok with me) we share alot of the same “life views”. I am not scared of a man of color being our leader. The people of this great country voiced their opinions and desires in the election. I agree with you in the thought that maybe this will force people to raise the bar in their own lives and make themselves better people. After only a couple of days I’m already tired of hearing the idiotic jokes and absolutely nasty things some ignorant people have been saying. I have already made changes to my group of peers just in case the ignorance rubs off. I’m proud to live in a country where people really can decide how they want to live. Another great column!!!
P.S. How ’bout sending me a copy of the new CD?? I hate waiting til 2009!!!
I wonder how many people actually know that God Forbid is comprised of 4/5 people with black blood in them. I know that I didn’t realize that until at least after a year after first hearing the band. I’m not too crazy about God Forbid, but it’s because I’m not a big metal fan and prefer thrash and heavier power metal myself. It’s good to see Dallas writing more introspectively and not that “he’s a racist” bs.
Dallas neglects to note that its just a black man heading up the same old group of white honkeys, the President is really just a figurehead for the people behind him – Bush is a perfect example of this – I doubt he made any decisions on his own ever.
Obama has already opted out of all the things that he promised pre-election and shows no signs of any real “change”, he’s been bought out by corporations led by corrupt white people, I see all these poor black people crying on television thinking something is going to change. It’s not, they will still be poor, they will still be heavily taxed to pay off money that has been leached from the banking system for the bonuses of rich white men driving ferarri’s.
Why should people be proud Dallas? America has voted Democrat many times before, it voted for a big smiling white man in the 90’s and now it votes for a big smiling black man in 08, the only thing that has changed is the man’s colour, are we proud we voted for someone because they are of a different colour? At any rate Obama’s team is already reported to be widely similar to Clinton’s and we’re already seeing the introduction of the son of a Zionist terrorist as the Chief of Staff. There is no change, and as long as America stays as part of a two party system with this bizarre style of voting there never will be.
Of course, there is only really one party in America, it has two wings, both right wings, it is the money party.
Change is an illusion, everyone is still stuck in the same two horse race.
Owen,
Change is an illusion? Your too cynical for your own good. Drop the cynical POV and, might I say, predictable rebuttal and DO something to change the problem you seem to have. Last time we had a surplus Clinton was in office, so i’d rather end up with a surplus than another deficit. Things change every day and if you really believe Obama being elected doesn’t mean anything than you are more lost in unreality than most of the paranoid conservatives.
Your apathy doesn’t do anything but keep people running in place. Like I said, DO something and get something going. I’m sure Ari Emmanuel, Rahm’s brother and head of talent agency Endeavor, is such a Zionist terrorist just like his brother. C’mon, it’s ridiculous. Like i said, DO something.
Goddamn Owen, you need to smoke some weed.
Even though I didn’t care for a lot Obama’s policies I’m glad more than anything that a black man is in the white house and I think this will transcend America and heal the black eye (pardon the pun) of slavery.
Hey Dallas, could you send me a copy of the new album?
This is a great day for America when we can elect a african american as a president. Everyone is coming up to me telling me how that America will change and everything will be ok. It was Clinton’s fault that the economy is in shambles right now. Not Bush’s. How many terrorist attacks did Clinton have? 5-10. How many did Bush have? 1. I’m not advocating for Bush btw, just pointing out the overlooked facts. I think Obama will do well, but it’s going to take a while for it to sort itself out. People think there will be immediate change, there won’t be.
HOLY SHIT DALLAS- YOU”RE BLACK?!?!?!?!
hahaha… just kidding man. Dude I don’t care what ‘color’ or what ever you or any good band is. There is only one color and that is METAL & we all BLEED RED in the PITT!
For me, My band is 2/3rds Chicano & 1/3 Salvadorean. I’m sure there alot of racists or prejudice pricks that rather not get their head out of their ass & give us a chance. F*K ‘EM
METAL music, for me, is about break through those barriers and become an audio assualt for people to DO SOMETHING!
… on another note..
If the Brotha-Man can take the HeadOffice, why can’t gay people have the right to be unhappy in marriage like everyone else?!?!
Prop8 is H8
The economy is really not too much connected with the president. His finance stuff makes most of the decisions, and regardless of the party in office, most of those guys are big-money Wall Street assholes who don’t give a good fuck about the “common man.” On top of that, anyone who thinks the current economic crisis has anything to do with Bush is an absolute, uneducated imbecile. People loved to say “Gas was 1.50 when Clinton was in office, it’s $4 now that Bush is in!” Well guess what? I just put gas in my car on the way home from work, and regular here is $1.98. How many people do you think will acknowledge THAT? They were quick enough to talk shit when something the president has little control over changes, but they refuse to even discuss the fact that gas is actually cheaper today than it was in 1995.
On top of that, Obama’s “wealth redistribution”, socialist programs already being worked out, and stance on gun control don’t give me one fucking thing to get excited about in the next 4years, unless it’s to show everything that Obama really DIDN’T have the experience or qualifications to be president. But only time in office will show that.
As far as the color issue, for me and most of the people I know, there never WAS a color issue. The majority of working-class Americans really don’t give a good shit that Obama is the first black president, or rather, it wasn’t a point that would have made a difference as to whether they voted for him or not. Why should they? It’s not going to change anything for them. He’s just another rictus-grin politician who made it into office on promises he’ll never be able to keep, promoting changes that’ll never come around, without any experience whatsoever. And anyone who voted for Obama only because, or even primarily because, he’s black has NO fucking right whatsoever to bitch about ANY of the controversial issues in the US now. If you vote someone into office because of their race, not their stance on issues, what the fuck is the point? Same for the females who voted for Hillary just because she was a woman. It’s a POLITICAL race, not a fucking popularity contest, but therein lies the problem – the majority of Americans are utterly uneducated on all aspects of politics and current events, so instead of electing the person best-qualified for office, the presidential election has turned into a fucking popularity contest.
Owen’s right in being pessimistic and cynical. Why should Americans be any different? Regardless of who’s been voted in, regardless of what they ran for and promised, the average American gets more and more fucked with each successive president in office. Sure, Obama elected is going to change things. History books will have a chocolate-colored face in the lineup of, to date, linen-pale guys. Ghetto trash will now talk even more shit to people about their race – I’ve already heard the “Oh shit crackas, you muthafuckas fuckin dun, cuz a brotha’ da pres’dint now! Shit what!” We’ll have an increase of socialist programs and “Work Corps” that are government-funded to further deepen the tax burden on those already barely struggling along.
So tell me, Dallas, why should I be impressed or happy that Obama is in office, when he’s merely a socialist version of the same shit that’s been washing into the presidential chair since Eisenhower left? I guess we’ll see, in four years, who had the right outlook on things.
And what the flying fuck is this “Awaiting moderation” shit?
Dallas, you peg my scepticism as “predictable”, but what is really more predictable here, the fact that I don’t buy into all the hype and or that you are predictably buying it because you believe there will be a “change” , when Clinton was in the White House he did like a good bombing campaign too, ordering a non-UN approved missile campaign of Iraq and as Joe points out, Clinton wasnt exactly enforcing checks on the banking system either, leading to this current crisis.
Obama is no different to these warmongers, he proposes to take troops out of Iraq only to pump more into Afghanistan in a “surge”, which seems to be the military buzzword for the year, much like “collateral damage” instead of bloody murder.
The man he has appointed is pro-Patriot act and would have all men between 18-25 conscripted into the US army, this is not ridiculous, this is a man that would have your civil liberties and freedom eroded. His father has been quoted as saying: “Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel, Why wouldn’t he be? What is he, an Arab? He’s not going to clean the floors of the White House.”
Obviously a complete conflict of interest, and we’re going to see more pro-Israeli propaganda from Washington in times to come no doubt. I am not indifferent to a fair political system, but this corrupt two party tyranny must go. America has some of the lowest life expectancies and highest child poverty rates in the developed world, these people are not doing anything for you, you think voting for monetary obsessive millionaires is “change”?
When an ordinary man such as yourself can stand for President with hope of being elected. That is change.
Owen,
No matter how you think, something has changed already. Our allies are on our side. Through all of that bombing Clinton did, we had STRONG allies. Right now, our allies are coming over again to see what the new president will do. That’s change.
Were you in Europe in 04 when bush was re-elected? I was. And people were burning American flags. When Obama gets elected, people WAVE them. No change? Europe very much affects our safety. You can complain about two party tyranny all you want but America is too big for more than that at this point. People are too dumb to pick between more. Also, there were green party candidates, llibertarian candidates, etc. There were more than two parties in every election but you’re just like everyone else. You don’t want to vote for a candidate that can’t win but you don’t want to vote for a candidate that will probably win. Once states secede, and it will happen, then you’ll be able to vote for who you want.
You can complain and complain about the word “Change” but things already have changed. What I’m saying is DO something. You obviously have your finger on the problem and you complain about it but what are you DOING about it?
People in Europe are buying into the same thing that you are Dallas, they’re buying into the hype, Obama is a fresh face and his worth is high, but don’t think it won’t and can’t be devalued, and you know what will happen if it all goes downhill, white middle class America will blame it on the black man. So Obama has more charisma than Bush, but he doesnt have a new sense of direction.
Europe doesnt keep America safe, I should point out that America keeps America safe, there are enough bombs in America to destroy the world over 20 times over, it creates a Russian enemy, a terrorist enemy to keep citizens in check, there is no fear for Americans on a daily basis, you think any country is stupid enough to attack a crazy western superpower with enough arms to kill everyone on this planet? No.
At any rate, America would be safer if it didn’t have such a gung-ho domestic policy agenda, sticking it’s nose in everyone’s business, America should not be the world police.
I don’t complain about the word “Change” mearly that the meaning of it is already devalued by this cliche. You’re asking me why I do not fight to change this problem, so you seem to acknowledge that there is one, but yet you buy into it, Dallas, just because I’m not acknowledging this new regime quite so eagerly as everyone else does not mean that I’m not fighting against the problems I see in it, otherwise, I would not be having this discussion.
So what else has changed apart from a fresh face to old policies?
I’m acknowledging you believe there is a particular problem. In my experience if I see a particular problem, then I try and fix it. I don’t buy into anything. I was an Obama supporter way back when because I have a talent for recognizing good things. I won’t go into it but I have a knack for it.
You act like everyone believes the world is going to flip over and pussy is going to light up the sky. I’m practical but I’m not a cynic when it comes to my politics. That’s your thing and I respect it. But judging someone before they even have a chance to do anything isn’t cool either. You don’t know what’s going to happen with an Obama presidency so don’t act like you do.
Just remember, these politicians are PEOPLE too. I think most people forget that. Also, Obama is worlds smarter than Bush and he has a gift in strategic thinking that can help keep us safe. If you can’t admit that than you’re just talking to talk and I can’t respond anymore.
What has changed? The tone has changed. Tone is important when you begin a project. It gives you your path and vision. Obama is establishing a tone and that’s all that needs to change right now cause he has over three months to do his shit.
This moderation shit is bullshit, because by the time the fucking admin or whoever “moderates it”, the topic is already 20 posts down.
Dallas, what’s so different about Obama than every single other politician who has run on a campaign of “change” and who has each had his own “tone”? Why should I think this socialist guy with no experience whatsoever is going to do anything different than all the other worthless presidents since Eisenhower?
If someone was to pull a gun on you Dallas, would you think to give him time to see whether he pulls the trigger or not?
He’s played his cards man and if you can’t judge by them then you’d have been as well electing McCain, after all, you’ve got to give all men a chance, right?
For sure I’m judging a man by his past actions, but actions count for more than sweet lullabyes in the ear. Appearances can be deceptive.
Obama isn’t stupid as you say, but he’s not yet paid his dues to the people who have bought him to where he is.
Never the less, we’ll see man, I would rather you were right over me, but its not America I’m concerned about, it’s the rest of the world that opposes it.
Oh, and for the record, in case you got the wrong end of the stick, I’m actually from the 51st state ;)
Obama is weak,and will fold like a house of cards.PERIOD
No one man can change the awful mess we’re in.
It’ll be bloody for the kids.
By the way Owen nailed it.
I don’t get your pulling the gun point. Unless you’ve had a gun pulled on you, you wouldn’t know what you’d do. You can give all men a chance but I believe in picking one over the other based on the way they ran their campaigns. Obama and McCain were worlds apart in the way they did things. McCain was erratic, except for his concession speech, which was brilliant and he gained my respect with it. Obama has been a step ahead the whole time.
Which past actions are you talking about?
If you’re inferring to the “radical friends” of Obama, that argument doesn’t hold weight in my eyes. I know a lot of people with questionable views and none of them affect me and the way I run my camp or my ideologies. Even my Dad doesn’t affect my world view. Politics in hindsight is NEVER 20/20 so all of us can’t judge decisions. We can only judge the outcome. Obama won and he did it well. I apply his brilliance of his campaign to the administration he will lead which makes me think it’ll be pretty damn good. Even if he’s presented with a crisis.
The rest of the world opposes America, yet, the worlds population comes here to “make it”.
Sawyer: C’mon man.
Dallas,You make it sound as if Barack Obama won this election because he is some brilliant political tactician.The fact is that he is just a pawn in this farce we call “Government”.A spoiled little boy,politically raised in the most corrupt city in America.
Dammit we need change,but this ain’t it.Neither is John McCain for that matter.
Do I have the answers?
No
Am I happy?
No
Am I a fucking American?
Yes.And for thatreason alone I say we have to stand behind “The Main Man”
Years of political ads,and now Istill find myself banging away on the keyboard over politics?
I must be loaded.
Have fun fellas,I’m goin’ partyin’!
For those who didn’t vote, think about this: People died for you to vote. That’s more than enough reason to get your ass out there and respect them even if you think the game is “rigged”.
read the constitution brother, read the founding fathers concerns about this country. voting has become some kind of golden god in this country that it was never intended to be. we are a republic, bound just as much by the set in stone rules of the constitution as the whims of the people. the architects of this country viewed straight up democracy as mob rule, the vote is one of many checks and balances, not the essence of this country. obama reflects the same interventionist, big government, executive branch abuse of power policies that got us where we are, and he wont change shit. black and white is the absolute least of this countries worries at this point. he just pulled all the right heartstrings and took advantage of america being sick of eight years of george bush.
we are fucked.
Hey Dallas, the feed on issueoriented.com is broken. The RSS button takes the user here:
http://www.issueoriented.com/feed/
But you really want them to go here, where there’s a functioning feed (that you’ll get stats on):
http://feeds.feedburner.com/io
Love.
I have to agree with Dallas over Owen.If for nothing else, I think the people elected Obama because in this “two horse race,” Obama was the one running at full throttle.People are generally stupid, and that includes me.But when in dire straights, people can rise up to the occasion and use their brains in order to take care of themselves.McCain tried to dumb it down by bringing in Palin to try and capitalize on the “Hilliary Factor.”They tried to use sex appeal and it completely backfired because we’re at a stage in our history where people need to not be treated as mindless sheep.
I personally decided to vote for Obama because I found a lot of McCain’s ideas to be recycled and dead.He sounded like he was reading from a script at all times and when debating with Obama often brought out questionable numbers and tried to sway people with little things blown out of proportion to the point where Barrack himself actually put his face in his hand and started to chuckle.McCain was running a race that he could not win fairly and he tried to slander Obama, and to McCain’s dismay, Obama didn’t bite back.The only Obama ad I ever saw was the one where McCain tried to shit on him and say “I’m not President Bush,” and then showed the interview clip of McCain wiping W’s jizz off his lips.The fact that people overseas support us again means a great deal, whether anyone believes it or not.And the fact is that Barrack does have good ideas, and if he can execute them all remains to be seen, but it’s been a long time since good ideas have come from Pennsylvania Avenue.In fact, forget color, this man wants to end the pride war that has smeared our country’s worth and reinvest our own money into rebuilding the great nation we once had.
Owen, you don’t believe in the change that Obama promised?Here it is on a silver platter.Look at Bush’s approval ratings and see how many people were proud Americans as little as 6 months ago.Now ask how many people are proud of this country as of Wednesday.I assure the numbers for the latter will be significantly higher.
And Dallas, I’m just curious.What is your stance on the Proposition 8 controversy?I’m for gay marriage and while I think it is shitty that this right is being taken away from these people, after just being given it only months earlier, to actually have a court case to try and overturn the 18,000 marriages that have already been performed in the state is absolutely preposterous and is unconstitutional if anything in our history ever was.Also, why do you feel the sates will eventually secede?Just curious on your take on the matter.
-Paul
The fact that all the world leaders are ‘praising’ Obama’s win has me a bit scared. Especially the presidents of Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran.
We’re going to be a bunch of commies in the next few years.
The idea behind the analogy is that if the cards are already on the table and they’re bad, you won’t waste time waiting around to question whether the man with them could do you damage or not. For the purpose of the analogy the only thing I’m saying you wouldn’t do, if you could get away, is stand around to get shot.
Unfortunately for America it seems that it will, because it want’s to judge Obama on the actions he has yet to carry out rather than those he has already done.
Paul, approval ratings mean nothing, when Bush was elected he initially had a 56 per cent approval rating, that’s higher than Barrack Obama has now at 52, there is always a clean sheet when a fresh face comes into play.
Dallas, like it or not, a man’s friends say a lot about him as a character and Obama is bringing a lot of bankers and Zionists into his team, you think the company you keep wouldn’t affect you because you have a strong mind, but Obama is paying these people for their opinions and knowledge so he has to let it affect him.
In regards to the “making it” comment, yes, because America is the biggest audience for western popular culture, it is the biggest market for the biggest winners but also for the biggest losers. There is a huge cultural divide which is set to become ever bigger.
This is what people buy into when they come to America, that because there is a bigger market they have more chance of “making it” – what they forget is that everyone else is fighting against them for their piece of glory. The American dream is just a con, it is so far out of reach for most Americans because their are always much more losers than winners.
Capitalist western culture is based on this winner takes all mentality, that is that we should fuck our brothers and sisters over for our own gain, for every millionaire there’s ten families sitting on $20000 a year.
As for the world opposing America, yes this would be because of its determination to inflict “capitalism and democracy” on every country it see’s fit, but you seem to think that the world is against you, hardly, there are a good number of western countries that are willing to jump into bed with America without question, the weak are attracted to power whether to oppose it or to mindlessly fight with it.
Capitalism is failing however, it is strangling itself, so we’ll see how long this crazy system lasts.
Correction in last paragraph: “…the whole world is against…”
I’m a conservative and I listen to metal and sometimes I have my hate glasses on. This election was one of them where I put them on blindly and in my opinion…..it cost me something. After watching Obama win I realized that I am human and this election broke a big fucking barrier in our history. This is a major event and I’m glad I’m watching it happen. What will Obama do with his power…that is yet to be seen. What will he do with the economy….I really want to buy that god forbid album but cash is tight lol jk
Fuck you Demonic, boo hoo my taxes will be slightly higher and I may not be able to afford a new fridge within the time period I wanted it. That’s a disgusting way to look at it, why don’t you just move on down to Texas so you can see otherwise intelligent, motivated people working shit jobs because of the corporate culture?
You live in the greatest nation in the world you piece of shit, give a little, and stop being such a fucking coward, everyone here has the balls to express their beliefs instead of criticizing everyone else’s, yet you admit to being too cowardly to even fess up instead of bitching and whining.
Alright, enough Texas bashing. Believe it or not, there are a few of us hard-working, metal-loving liberals down in the Lone Star state that are working to shed our image as George W. Bush’s sandbox (he’s not even a Texan — he’s a fucking transplant).
I can proudly add that I did my part in helping turn Bexar County (San Antonio) from red to blue with a 16-point turnaround from 2004. Amazingly, Harris County (Houston) also went for Obama this year which astounds me to no end.
Remember, we were also the home to such late famed Texas liberals as LBJ, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, and Molly Ivins. Now if we can just find some living, breathing liberals to take up their mantle, there might be hope for my state just yet.
I don’t understand how democrats will make life better.
My father owns 2 small companies. He currently is doing shitty due to the economic crisis. However with the soon to be democratic president as well as a congress and senate, taxes will inevitably be raised. With the raise of taxes, my dad’s company will be making even less profit. Thus he will be forced to lay off workers…
Now people say well Obama wont raise taxes if you make below 250,000.
BULLSHIT.
Presidents RARELY get to do what they want. They sit in their office and either sign or veto bills shit that lands on their desk.
If congress wants to lower that amount, they easily can, and I guarantee you the final number will be closer to 100 – 150k
Thank god people are actually engaging in some serious discussion here, not third-rate Blabbermouth bullshit. Good work MS readers.
And for my part, coming from Australia, Obama deserved his victory. McCain had the right ideas, it was just his pick of people to surround him that let him down.
PALIN 2012! … shit. did I just say that? Someone shoot me.
I was incredibly proud to be an American when I watched Obama’s acceptance speech. I am even more proud to be a part of the metal community as it continually becomes more ethnically and racially diverse because of bands like yours.
@Devin: Taxing people who make $150k/year? Oh boo-fucking-hoo, dude. I was raised by a single mother who made $30-40k/year, OK? If you make $150k/year and can’t make due, you’re a loser.
Please face the fact that you are extremely well off and in the broader scheme of things, if anyone is asked to make sacrifices, it’s going to be you, because there are so many people in lower and middle class America that have been sacrificing every day of their goddamn lives, and you reap the benefits of what their taxation pays for.
@Adam: I agree with your optimism, but metal is still, unfortunately, a white man’s sport. I’m glad to see it changing too, but we have a long way to go. Even here on MetalSucks, a community of metalheads who are at least slightly more open-minded than on Blabbermouth, we have a lot of racist assholes. So, here’s to the future, bro. Keep carrying the torch, Dallas.
Dallas, I like what you’ve said, yet people who bought your early 2000’s effort cracked the ceiling? If you’re talking about a glass ceiling I would imagine that you’re being a bit arrogant there… I would give Living Colour this accolade, or perhaps Body Count. And whilst these are the only ‘black metal’ bands that I know of (aside from your crew minus 1), I know they were around before you guys -as far as I’m aware.
I think what some of these people are trying to say is that it is stupid to celebrate now. Celebrating now is like celebrating in the first inning of a big ball game. Better yet, like celebrating when you find out the starting pitchers. Last I checked, Obama is sworn in on 1/20/09. We will see how he does. People get tired of democrats and republicans and go back and forth. I hope Obama does well. I could give a shit that he is black. I honestly don’t think that is news, just sensationalism by our media. He won this election for two reasons: a) How does Bush look after 8 years? b) He is younger and more hip than McCain. Stick a cute catchphrase, promise the world, fuhgettaboudit. McCain lost the female vote for his views on abortion, had 95% of the black vote solely because he is black, and dominated the hispanic vote as well. Obama has potential sure. I personally think he will do fine. When I turned on the news on election night it made me fucking sick. They were celebrating because we have an african american president… not because we have just elected a qualified great man for the job, which I believe he is.
Long story short:
I am happy Obama won, because I like him better than McCain. (various issues including abortion, tax plan etc.) I can’t help but feel like he won it for all the wrong reasons though.
Also, cant wait for the new GF cd. Hope it is good man
Nickmeister: If you believe Living Colour and Body Count are extreme metal than that’s news to me. Can Living Colour and Body Count mix on a bill with LOG, Dimmu and Slipknot and be a part of that scene or just a novelty?
I have to agree with Owen…… and Dallas I didn´t know you´re black (o mulatto, really)….
Dallas, to be honest, it would be nice to hear you say something bad about Obama for once, I mean, he’s not really any better or worse than any other politician, yeah him being black and people not being racist is cool and everything, but that’s not enough for me, especially if I know he’s just another bought and paid for politician.
I just don’t like people I respect lavishing the undeserved respect on him, and I don’t think you really understand what the correct role of government is, but regardless of this, I will buy your new DVD soon and get the new album next year because God Forbid is a seriously excellent band, but mark my works you aren’t going to like Obama nearly as much in a few years as you do now after we’ve seen his policies written into law.