@Tim: Yeah, and I say the same about slamdancing (oh noez, I got my terminology mixed up). It’s still amusing that you claim that hardcore dancers are just there to hit people, when hitting each other is the entire point of slamdancing. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that good hardcore dancing involves at the very least some basic hand-eye coordination, whereas just jumping into people (especially when that’s the whole point) doesn’t.

I don’t take anything in the pit personally unless I know I’m being attacked on purpose. What’s your excuse?

You guys should just agree to disagree and blow each other. Thanks for playing.

Back to the topic at hand: The karate kids have no regard for what is surrounding them, they flail their arms as fast as possible, while not looking, hitting anything within reach. Whereas moshers are pushing each other around. And for the most part, moshers pay attention to who they’re pushing, keeping it in the pit.

You push people around and get pushed around in a pit. You don’t dance around swinging your fists as fast as possible.

and Gabriel I’m sorry, but a body slam consists of lifting a person over your head and slamming them to the ground…. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that happen in a pit.

I, personally, am there for the show first and foremost, but occasionally like to jump in and a lot of my friends spend most of their time in the pit which is why the karate dancers make us angry. So if you don’t want to be bothered with being pushed around Gabriel, then stay away from pits.

And I reiterate again, since you seemed to so conveniently miss it the first time around: the time when I did get my glasses knocked off, I wasn’t even in the pit, and I still got bumped by some drunk ass bodyslamming.

I hear there is this new invention for people with bad eyesight who don’t want to be bothered with cumbersome eyeglasses. I think they’re called “contacts,” or something like that. You might look into ‘em. Could be useful in the pit.

@Tim: So… you posted that just so you could seem tough? I’m not sure I’m getting your point. Some kid was dancing, accidentally hit your buddy and he laid into him? Real mature. So it’s okay when some hardcore kid is intentionally taken out by some mallgoth asshole with Hot Topic pants, and it’s okay being hit by a random bodyslam, but it’s not okay getting hit by accident, as long as it’s a hardcore kid? Right, I follow.

And who was it? The same drunken frat-boy douches and Hot Topic pussies I mentioned above. Nothing like taking a boot to the back of the head because some asshole is crowd-surfing during “Dont Stop Believing”. And these dicks didn’t even care that we were up there with our girlfriends, who clearly were not enjoying the spectacle. They had no respect that they didn’t want to be a part of it (and neither did us guys)..they started trying to suck them into the pit or life them up. So that’s when we started knocking these fuckers who weren’t listening faces into the dirt and any asswipe who made their way over to us crowd-surfing got a quick rap in the kidney, yanked down and we dumped their ass over the rail to security (who told us afterwards they were grateful for the help from us). There were also a couple roided out jock’s who were getting down in three-point stances and then just ram-rodding through the crowd, just trying to fuck people up.

I’ve been in many a pit and I expect that shit when I go to see Slayer, you know? We wouldn’t have had our girls down there with us or even have been downin front at all if we didn’t want to be part if the pit in the firstplace. But this was a fucking cover band playing classic radio rock! Overall, I’m not big o moshing anyway. I’m there to see the band, not slam around with a bunch of other people. But like I said, I expect moshing at certain shows. But not this one and it was fucked up that it even happened the way it did. Fuckin’ idiots.

It used to be called slam-dancing for a reason, because you fucking run and slam into each other. It’s dancing for people who can’t dance wanting to move to music that you can’t dance to. When I first started going to shows, everyone slammed, some fists were thrown, but people who fell down got helped up and everything was done for fun, not as a contest to see who could hurt the most people around them. This new school hardcore shit is for people who are pussies so they can sucker punch people and feel tough.

Also, crowd surfing is stupid as fuck. Especially if you’re doing it back-to-front. Have some respect (and/or brains), go to the front of the crowd and jump back, because nothing will get your ass thrown to the cold, cold concrete like too many people catching a motherfucking combat boot to the back of the head.

I respect expression through dance anyway.

I pull this shit aaalll the time. Gotten me in a fair amount of conflict but when you see a kid doing that shit during Hate Eternal, you just have to.