Comments on: J.S. BACH = THE MOST METAL OF ALL COMPOSERS http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/ IS FOR LOVERS Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ramone lawrence http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-570359 ramone lawrence Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:24:46 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-570359 one of the best musician in world well organize orchestra. one of the best musician in world well organize orchestra.

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]]> By: ramone lawrence http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-570353 ramone lawrence Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:12:49 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-570353 well done piece of work well done piece of work

]]> By: Summetaldude http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-535031 Summetaldude Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:02:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-535031 Have any of you checked out this site on Richard Wagner? http://lyraka.com/ourfatherofmetal/index.html Says Wagner invented metal. Have any of you checked out this site on Richard Wagner?

http://lyraka.com/ourfatherofmetal/index.html

Says Wagner invented metal.

]]> By: cdkowald http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-456513 cdkowald Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:27:28 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-456513 The relationship of classical music to metal is mostly a matter of the wall of sound, especially with regards to the similarities of sound between loud, distorted guitar, and loud, distorted French horns and trombones. Distorted lead guitar can also, in the hands of master like Eric Johnson or Paul Gilbert, have a singing violin-like quality. Cellos and basses also add to the full bottom sound like a good rhythm guitar and bass combo. Let's not forget the massive percussion sections used in works by Wagner, Mahler, and Strauss that certainly can be as thunderous as anything Bonzo did. It is very true that the musical structure and form of metal derived mainly from blues and early rock and roll, but the wall of sound goes back much farther. Listen to the opening of The Flying Dutchman Overture by Wagner, or the opening of Mahler's 3d Symphony and hear that wall of sound from the brass. The relationship of classical music to metal is mostly a matter of the wall of sound, especially with regards to the similarities of sound between loud, distorted guitar, and loud, distorted French horns and trombones. Distorted lead guitar can also, in the hands of master like Eric Johnson or Paul Gilbert, have a singing violin-like quality. Cellos and basses also add to the full bottom sound like a good rhythm guitar and bass combo. Let’s not forget the massive percussion sections used in works by Wagner, Mahler, and Strauss that certainly can be as thunderous as anything Bonzo did. It is very true that the musical structure and form of metal derived mainly from blues and early rock and roll, but the wall of sound goes back much farther. Listen to the opening of The Flying Dutchman Overture by Wagner, or the opening of Mahler’s 3d Symphony and hear that wall of sound from the brass.

]]> By: Bob http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-369640 Bob Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:39:55 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-369640 Yes, you do sound elitist. There's no way for us to know for sure whether metal will die out or not and it is unfair of you to assume it will. Bach and metal artists have completely different styles, but the complexity and heart of the music is, at the very least similar. This article may have been poorly written but that dosen't mean that the writer dosen't have a point. Also, you're contradicting yourself when you say that the writer is "demeaning metal bands" yet go on to praise Bach and put metal bands down. Check your word usage. Yes, you do sound elitist. There’s no way for us to know for sure whether metal will die out or not and it is unfair of you to assume it will. Bach and metal artists have completely different styles, but the complexity and heart of the music is, at the very least similar. This article may have been poorly written but that dosen’t mean that the writer dosen’t have a point. Also, you’re contradicting yourself when you say that the writer is “demeaning metal bands” yet go on to praise Bach and put metal bands down. Check your word usage.

]]> By: ThisIsNecessary http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-343369 ThisIsNecessary Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:16:05 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-343369 Symphony X should have been mentioned here, as Micheal Romeo is an amazing guitarist and also has a lot of classical compositional skills. ANYWAYS: Here's Necrophagist solo's played on piano, really puts things in a different perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpSPAJAZLHU&annotation_id=annotation_37708&feature=iv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9kWconiUTg Symphony X should have been mentioned here, as Micheal Romeo is an amazing guitarist and also has a lot of classical compositional skills.

ANYWAYS: Here’s Necrophagist solo’s played on piano, really puts things in a different perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpSPAJAZLHU&annotation_id=annotation_37708&feature=iv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9kWconiUTg

]]> By: better than ezra http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-343193 better than ezra Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:29:21 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-343193 just want to post under this name, i have nothing to offer just want to post under this name, i have nothing to offer

]]> By: Jacob http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-201215 Jacob Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:23:55 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-201215 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOF9w8kG-c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOF9w8kG-c

]]> By: Andy Weston http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-201175 Andy Weston Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:57:27 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-201175 I just listened to the recovered piano rolls recorded by Mahler himself. Strange to listen to the tempi, the fortes knowing that it was the master himself who gave his impression of his music. I just listened to the recovered piano rolls recorded by Mahler himself. Strange to listen to the tempi, the fortes knowing that it was the master himself who gave his impression of his music.

]]> By: metalheaddrummer101 http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-184046 metalheaddrummer101 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:58:35 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-184046 I had to play that Invention in 'C' on piano that Malmsteen played. But a LOT slower :) wagner is also badass. I had to play that Invention in ‘C’ on piano that Malmsteen played. But a LOT slower :)
wagner is also badass.

]]> By: TedTedPoleyPoley http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-183812 TedTedPoleyPoley Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:51:16 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-183812 did you call in to request LOVE IS A BITCHSLAP or anything else off of ANGEL DOWN during "Bach Fest"? did you call in to request LOVE IS A BITCHSLAP or anything else off of ANGEL DOWN during “Bach Fest”?

]]> By: ezra http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-183800 ezra Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:49:01 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-183800 "I thought it was an established fact among metalheads that Wagner was the most metuhl classical composer. With vikings and huge bass drums and shit." Obviously it's Wagner He invented a Bass so big 2 people had to play it! “I thought it was an established fact among metalheads that Wagner was the most metuhl classical composer. With vikings and huge bass drums and shit.”
Obviously it’s Wagner
He invented a Bass so big 2 people had to play it!

]]> By: Richaod http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-183190 Richaod Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:54:53 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-183190 cadaeib said it perfectly. I have to second damienk on the Holst though - Mars, The Bringer of War's 5/4 rhythm would fit perfectly in a metal song, and the tritone pops up in songs like Diamond Head's Am I Evil?. Not to mention that Jupiter is quoted in Bathory's Hammerheart, and that John Williams' Force theme is practically a lift of it (the Star Wars are also extremely metal). cadaeib said it perfectly.

I have to second damienk on the Holst though – Mars, The Bringer of War’s 5/4 rhythm would fit perfectly in a metal song, and the tritone pops up in songs like Diamond Head’s Am I Evil?. Not to mention that Jupiter is quoted in Bathory’s Hammerheart, and that John Williams’ Force theme is practically a lift of it (the Star Wars are also extremely metal).

]]> By: hibernum http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-182995 hibernum Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:54:33 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-182995 Sorry, typo - CPE Bach was from his first marriage. Sorry, typo – CPE Bach was from his first marriage.

]]> By: hibernum http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-182994 hibernum Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:53:04 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-182994 What I love most about this post is that a guy who spent most of his adult life as a church musician and wrote copious amounts of religious music is described as "having composed the blackest of black music" and "so raw, evil-sounding". I once fell asleep in Hill auditorium during Bachfest, where they played all through the night. T-bagg was there. Good times, bad hangovers. Did you know that Bach was married twice? His first wife died early (not uncommon those days) and was his second cousin. Not to worry, his son from his second marriage, CPE Bach, was a successful composer still remembered today. Another digression, Bach has quite the musical family, another son was the famouns Johann Christian Bach who gave lessons to a young Mozart in London. What I love most about this post is that a guy who spent most of his adult life as a church musician and wrote copious amounts of religious music is described as “having composed the blackest of black music” and “so raw, evil-sounding”.

I once fell asleep in Hill auditorium during Bachfest, where they played all through the night. T-bagg was there. Good times, bad hangovers.

Did you know that Bach was married twice? His first wife died early (not uncommon those days) and was his second cousin. Not to worry, his son from his second marriage, CPE Bach, was a successful composer still remembered today. Another digression, Bach has quite the musical family, another son was the famouns Johann Christian Bach who gave lessons to a young Mozart in London.

]]> By: damienk http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-182982 damienk Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:15:34 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-182982 Funny, I remember making this exact same point to an old girlfriend, who just kept looking at me funny for saying it. I love the discussion, and you guys are making great references, so I need to add three more. Night on Bald Mountain: Just read up on the history of this thing. It's a tone poem based on a witches sabbath, and it just oozes evil. Original performances of it provoked horrified reactions from listeners, just like yer grandmothers reaction to Deicide. Holst' The Planets: Mars - Bringer of War: OK, this is actually pretty recent(1914 or so), but it's still concert music, and the main musical theme at play here is pretty much the same tri-tone used in "Black Sabbath", and countless other metal tunes. Niccolò Paganini: Not a piece of music, but a shredder from the early 1800s. The original guitar hero. Stunning virtuosity, a flamboyant stage presence, and a penchant for romantic trysts with married women, all prompted accusations of the violinist having sold his soul to good ol Satan. The original blueprint for Yngwie, among others. Funny, I remember making this exact same point to an old girlfriend, who just kept looking at me funny for saying it.
I love the discussion, and you guys are making great references, so I need to add three more.

Night on Bald Mountain: Just read up on the history of this thing. It’s a tone poem based on a witches sabbath, and it just oozes evil. Original performances of it provoked horrified reactions from listeners, just like yer grandmothers reaction to Deicide.
Holst’ The Planets: Mars – Bringer of War: OK, this is actually pretty recent(1914 or so), but it’s still concert music, and the main musical theme at play here is pretty much the same tri-tone used in “Black Sabbath”, and countless other metal tunes.
Niccolò Paganini: Not a piece of music, but a shredder from the early 1800s. The original guitar hero. Stunning virtuosity, a flamboyant stage presence, and a penchant for romantic trysts with married women, all prompted accusations of the violinist having sold his soul to good ol Satan. The original blueprint for Yngwie, among others.

]]> By: Jesse http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-182770 Jesse Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:00:28 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-182770 Richard Wagner's Siegfried Act 1 is epic and metal as fuck. Also Symphonie Fantastique by Hector Berlioz is the shit and he was obsessed with dead bodies. Richard Wagner’s Siegfried Act 1 is epic and metal as fuck.

Also Symphonie Fantastique by Hector Berlioz is the shit and he was obsessed with dead bodies.

]]> By: Michiel http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-182761 Michiel Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:24:50 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-182761 "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ8BbZO84Yc Alexi Laiho and Roope Latvala with a violin effect on their guitars tearing some classical shit up." Hi, in case you're wondering, this is a part of Vivaldi's 'Four Seasons'. This particular part is called 'Summer'. “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ8BbZO84Yc

Alexi Laiho and Roope Latvala with a violin effect on their guitars tearing some classical shit up.”

Hi, in case you’re wondering, this is a part of Vivaldi’s ‘Four Seasons’. This particular part is called ‘Summer’.

]]> By: Conduit http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/12/24/js-bach-the-most-metal-of-all-composers/#comment-182747 Conduit Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:40:25 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=10332#comment-182747 Holy fucking essays. Why so serious? Holy fucking essays. Why so serious?

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