the dude is on tour

you are on a pc

so know u know—taime

Robotscythe: it depends on what kind of DJ you are talking about. The dildos who go up there and just play other people’s records verbatim are absolutely not musicians (although some aspects of it are tricky, it doesn’t require much talent or skill.) But I think the guys who do the scratching and beat juggling qualify as musicians. That is crazy hard, not just anybody can do it, and it takes a ton of practice and dedication; in addition they are creating something new, albeit using someone else’s music as a springboard. And the people who write and produce the electronic music are also skilled musicians. Again, probably a minority opinion (I also think rappers should be considered singers) but hell, that’s what the comments section is for.

What’s funny about this is that I find this whole “EXTREME MUSIC FOR EXTREME PEOPLE” thing coming out of the Morbid Angel camp these days to be really juvenile, silly, and barely representative of my own approach to metal or any other form of music. It’s more like a slogan for Slipknot or Hot Topic T-Shirt Band X than something I would expect or want to hear from Morbid Angel, which was one of my very favorite bands in my youth and one that I regarded with cultish fervor until the end of the ’90s. I saw them as clandestine legends in the flesh.

Nowadays I don’t listen to much dance/beat-oriented electronic music, but it still interests me. More than that I’m into black metal, death metal, or doom metal that is concerned not just with being “brutal” or “extreme” but also/moreso with altering and expanding upon the potential of this music texturally and aesthetically — bands like Deathspell Omega, etc.

Would I attend an event like this? Covenant and Altars are two of the best metal albums ever recorded, but considering what Morbid Angel have become I’d probably be more interested in seeing what kind of electronic music Trey would pick out.

i get what trey’s going for, but i have my doubts as to how well it would work. every genre, regardless of how it’s created or played, is usually comprised of an enormous percentage of ignorant elitist fans who express disdain towards anything that doesn’t follow an established archetype.

anyways, i don’t think it’s a huge stretch for many metal fans to appreciate electronic acts like drumcorps, venetian snares, bong-ra, technical itch, etc., but i can totally understand how they could hear something like pendulum or dj tiesto and be turned off from EM entirely, assuming it all sounds like that. =)

Really? You liked those albums? Didn’t they bore you? You didn’t think that the riffs were repetitive? That the pacing on the songs was all the same? I mean I know that on the internet you can find people into all sorts of crazy shit, like people who think that Reek of Putrefaction was the best Carcass album and all that…but really?

Oh, and now would be a great time for someone to post a video of Trey hosting Headbanger’s Ball. If you ever read the liner notes to Heretic (please don’t!), it is that in the flesh. When he said “Wowee”, I think a part of heavy metal died a little.

I agree with Trey’s sentiments that many types of sounds fall under the “sensory assault” category, and the same aspects of that which draw us to metal are also present in other forms of music. I think the festival is a great idea. Especially if you threw some noise rock in there as well. It would be the perfect festival at which to eat a 5-strip of some powerful acid and go totally apeshit. You’d never know what hit you. You would leave that shit feeling like neon gorillas just trampled all over your body and then threw you into the ocean.

Yes, most people who are into metal are pretty close-minded, rejecting any music that is not metal. This goes for people who are into pretty much any specific genre of music (hip-hop, punk, blues, jazz, etc.) There’s a reason the term “[genre] purist” exists.

And yes, while a show featuring Morbid Angel and a darkstep (Evol Intent?) or hard drum & bass group (maybe Atari Teenage Riot? Oh wait, they completely chug horse semen live) would be exciting for some people (me), most people would still not like it, as most extreme music fans tend to like their music organic, viewing anything involving synthesizers or samplers as fake (regardless of how much talent it takes to actually make listenable music with these instruments [hint: it takes tons of talent]) And it would indeed be pretty visually uninteresting to watch.

That being said, I think acceptance of these kinds of extreme electronic music will gain more of a foothold in the metal scene with bands such as Genghis Tron, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Berzerker, etc. putting out a crossover sound.

And, just for the record, Hibernium, I like Gateways and Heretic as much as I like Blessed, Covenant, and Domination. They are all pretty sweet. That live album was kind of a bummer, though. Who the fuck thinks live albums are worth a damn? “Hey, let’s buy a CD full of shittier versions of songs we already own and love! It will be totally boss!”

I could definately see Morbid Angel doing a fest or tour with cross-over extreme bands like The Amenta, Anaal Nathrakh, The Berzerker, Genghis Tron, Noism, or that new band with Jon Chang of DA(i forget their name). At least that would still be in the metal vein even though they have major electronic elements and it would help the flow of the show be alot smoother.

ALso, i completely hate jungle and trance music and would never be into it.