PETER DOLVING, STILL OUR FAVORITE HATER, LASHES OUT AGAINST LAMB OF GOD
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 at 1:30pm by Vince Neilstein
Dallas may be laying off the haterade as of late, but thankfully Peter Dolving is always there in a pinch to take a big, giant swig of the Internet’s favorite, venomous beverage. In his latest rant sent to us in a press release, The Haunted frontman tells you why you should come see his band on their MetalSucks-sponsored North American tour (also featuring Merauder and The Agonist), and takes a swipe at Lamb of God as being part of the big, bad, generic, corporate metal machine:
Seriously folks. You could go out and see any of a number of bands in the next four weeks. What you’ll receive will of course be generic deliverance of generic metalcore by the numbers and certainly you won’t be more than slightly disappointed. The big one this time around out there being the Lamb Of God tour. Which will according to business-planned management crawl itself around the North Americas for the next year and a half or so like a big snake. You could dig that shit and think ‘Holy mutherfucking hell! That shit rocks!’ or you could go and see the Haunted once and for all prove what metal is all about. But only if you want to have a good time. Only if you want to feel alive. Only if you like that feeling of actually realizing everything is not fucked utterly and beyond belief. But I guess if you are a sad, self-pitying son of a bitch you won’t go. Oh what the hell, really, don’t go. Most of those who read this don’t really give a shit anyway do you? You’d rather stay in a saline filled tank fed intravenously with a constant intake of whatever, whoever carries the biggest gun and wad of dollars has to say wants to feed you.
You know how fucking sick we are of the bullshit that surrounds trying to tour and survive in a market completely oversaturated. You know there are 50 shit bands out there to every good one. And no, I’m not saying YOUR band is shit. I’m just stating a fact, one we all know is true. I kinda feel bad for everyone who’s caught in the middle of it, promotors, PR people, marketers. Sure there’s plenty of work, but it sure as fuck must be getting to people. All the horseshit involved with bringing the next ironic bunch of just out of high-school dooods with the right tattoos or t-shirt based identikit to the stage. And when they get there it’s the same shit as the one before. What do I know. Maybe it will all mutate into something completely new. Something else that the wolves can sink their teeth into and suck empty of lifeblood. Come on people. Do you think that is going to happen? Of course it will. Hopefully there will be those bands out there that just keep going. No matter what. As far as we’re concerned. Fuck it all. We are touring the North America again and we’re looking forward to it. If you want a world class performance and a kick ass night of metal come and see us. If not, fuck off.
Thems is fightin’ words. If anyone wants to take bets on the inevitable Dolving v. Blythe brawl at this year’s New England Metal and Hardcore fest, maybe we can get a pool going. I say we lock ‘em into a cage match with 2 bottles of Jager and see what happens.
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I love The Haunted and own everything they have done, but sometimes Dolving just needs to shut the fuck up. He is chemically imbalanced and we all know that, but that is no excuse. Stop talking shit, especially to LoG… and play your music.
“You know there are 50 shit bands out there to every good one.”
Guess what, you are one of those shit bands.
Your entire band couldn’t hold a candle to Chris Adler ALONE.
Maybe you should grow up and RESPECT one of the biggest names in metal, not bad mouth them because they got successful and you are still touring in a van.
fuck off Pete. LoG worked hard to get where they are, quit gettin on that haterade
I’ve got to agree with the comment above me, I love The Haunted….
Peter Dolving seems like an interesting guy when he’s level and calm…
But rants like this just seem pointless… I can’t see it helping their situation any further…
Although, I do understand his frustrations, there’s been a lot of bands coming on and then fucking off for this tour… must’ve been incredibly stressful to make it happen with all that happening….
Randy should kick this dude in the teeth. I’ll be seeing LOG tomorrow and it’s gonna be fucking awesome, guaranteed.
This guy has made it near impossible for me to listen to The Haunted. They weren’t bad the last time I checked them out but for fuck’s sake he needs to shut the hell up. What a fucking tool.
Maybe someone should remind Dolving that the last good Haunted record was ..Made Me Do It, which he didn’t have anything to do with.
I left before The Haunted hit the stage when they came through with Dark Tranquility. I personally can’t stand the music even though At The Gates was a fantastic band. I would have gone to see this tour had the original line up been intact instead i have The Agonist which is the most generic metalcore bullshit ever. So Peter, before you go ranting about generic bullshit metal tours look at your own and see what was once a great tour package is now itself generic corporate dribble.
Holy shit, is everyone misinterpreting what he is saying? Dolving has in no way bashed Lamb of God. Dolving is pointing out that Lamb of God will play your city 3-5 times over the next 20 months. This is The Haunted’s first trip here since March 2007, and before that it was October 2005. He is simply trying to say, “Don’t be a fucking dope and pick the band you can see a bunch of times, come to the fucking show that is going to happen once, because who the fuck knows when you’ll see it again.” I missed em in 07, so you bet your cunthairs I’ll be on the barricade at BB King’s going fucking nuts for Dolving & Co.
Proof is here:
I missed LOG twice on the Sacrament touring cycle. Still saw em 3 or 4 times.
AILD….saw em once, payed to see em 4 times. Hanging with people in their opening bands and getting a bite to eat before Main Stage at Ozzfest 05 seemed more important.
Bodom – Saw em three nights in a row last year for Gigantour/Off date in Philly with In Flames and A Life Once Lost.Learned that too much Bodom is bad for you.Can’t really dig em anymore, which kinda blows.Saw em again in October and spent most of their set sitting down in the balcony recovering from the epic headbanging that ensued from Black dahlia Murder and Testament’s sets.
God Forbid – Not a bad word to say, but I’m still really fucking bummed that one of my favorite bands has lost one of their key elements.
Municipal Waste – Saw em open for At the Gates. Fun live, skipped through every song on the iPod until I ran out of tracks.
funny fucking shit lolz
Wow, Peter Dolving could you possibly come off more whiny, jealous, and pathetic? I don’t think bashing LOG and telling everyone to fuck off is going to get more people at your show. It just makes you look like an arrogant prick.
These comments are hilarious. At least Pete has the balls to speak out…he’s got a really good point about all the metalcore acts that sound the same. ok I’ll admit that LoG have put in hard work and have produced some good material…but honestly they are getting to the point where they’re just putting out the same formula over again. It’s getting a bit tired.
Anyways, I guess that’s my own opinion…but if he didnt mention LoG all of you ppl probably wouldn’t be talking shit and would probably agree with what he has to say.
Seriously,I WOULD have went to see The Haunted,but all the bands I actually wanted to see dropped off the tour either to tour w/ Mastodon or because their lead singer has a broken leg.The Haunted have only put out one cd that I’ve actually liked(”…made me do it”),whereas L.O.G. hasn’t made an album that I haven’t listened to repeatedly. If there WAS a fight between Randy & Peter,I’d have to put my money on Randy unless he was drunk on old-ass Scotch(if you’ve seen the Killadelphia dvd,you get the referrence)
I was wondering when someone was gonna mention that fight. Fuck that ruled.
Hahahaha randy is crazy no doubt, but in a square fight I’d have to put my money on Peter, who as stated many times is clinically phychotic (kidding), but dude he’s a fucking carpenter and with how he’s always flying about the stage like a maniac, and who knows what he’s doing way out there in that forrest of his, bottom line is: don’t battle psychotic swedish mountain-carpenter-monkeys if you’re tall and skinny and your real name is Daaaavid… lol
How funny, The Haunted sucks balls and sounds like any other metal band.
So another case of “Wah we’re not as popular as this band so they suck” and “This band is really popular – They suck”
I dig what i’ve heard from the Haunted, but he comes off as whiny and jealous here.
To be honest I think Lamb of God and The Haunted are both great bands, but this whole thing about pigeon-holing groups into the metalcore genre is ludicrous. Thrash bands sound more alike to me than metalcore bands! Metalcore at least puts a lot of interesting single note riffs in between the chugga-chugga (e.g. Lamb of God, God Forbid, As I Lay Dying, Unearth) that many straight thrash bands or death metal bands don’t care about. Not that The Haunted don’t have some cool riffs, but they’re in a genre that tends to be less than innovative nowadays.
Does anyone remember this Tour lineup:
Cannibal Corpse
Dimmu Borgir
The Haunted
Lamb of God
Anyone? Maybe he’s upset they beat him to the top (him as in The Haunted before he was in the band)
I agree with TJ, last Haunted album that wasn’t generic (glad to see they embraced the sothern/stoner metal trend on their new album), was …Made me do it.
The Haunted fuckin’ rule. But if he’s so pissed why not just off yourself and get it over with. We don’t need to hear about it.
Just sayin’.
LOL.
I don’t even like The Haunted anymore (mainly because of Dolving’s vox), but I gotta agree with the guy.
I love being able to see my favorite bands a bunch of times during the year, but when it impedes with other lesser-known acts getting their dues, it’s disheartening to say the least. Maybe if big metal bands like LOG did what Pantera used to do (bring underground music like Morbid Angel on tour through waves of scrutiny and questions), these massive tours might be better for not only the fans but THE SCENE.
And although I don’t really approve of Dolving’s tactics, I can’t help but agree implicitly with the point about freshman metal bands looking like Nsync with 7-Strings.
Lamb of God is better than The Haunted and that they deserve the higher level of success. Relative to other Billboard 200 artists, LoG’s music is not mainstream by any means. Their major-label stature is nothing but positive, as it brings their music to a greater number of people.
And no one can call Wrath a “sell-out” record.
what a douche.
Huge huge huge fan of both bands, but I have to say it is funny to watch the elitist LOG fans go red in the face here
My favorite so far was Big’s comment towards the top
Doesn’t he even realize that he’s touring with one of the worst excuses for metal/metalcore, the agonist. He should stop bitching.
The Haunted are still around? Fuck what a boring band.
Not many realize what a pain it is for overseas bands to come and tour in America. It is much different than American bands going to Europe/elsewhere because the fan enthusiasm is just there more. Americans are much more spoiled when it comes to shows as well, for the most part at any rate since there are shitty boondocks in all countries. But doing a nationwide American tour as a foreigner is a big deal and hard as fuck to pull off if you aren’t a big name band. The Haunted is well known to all metalheads but I gaurantee you they’ll have trouble on this tour, especially with their whole supporting acts dropping off.
I think Dolving can get away with these words, mostly because they are true, but he’s made legitimate music for a long time now. Take a listen to the original Haunted album if you guys are forgetting.
He nailed it though, everyone is sick and tired of these new jack bands with ultra modern compression production who dress like 13 year olds and rip off as many bands as they can muster, most of the time giving absolutely no credit where its due. Death to ironic hipsters!
Wow, so LoG get kickass opening acts and you had crap opening acts that dropped off the tour and replaced them with opening acts that were even worse? There are TONS of bands that are still good nowadays that are up-and-coming that were either on crap tours or open to touring but not booked (i.e. Anal Cunt) but Lamb of God showed great business sense and you didn’t? Who’s fault is that?
At the same time, I’m still going since tickets were cheap as fuck. ($17 for me and I’ll go only to see a good headliner for that cheap of a price!)
That guy sucks balls. I listened to some Haunted before and remember thinking that they were good, but I’m just gonna think of how big of a douche he is the next time I hear it. He’s certainly not doing the rest of his band any favors with this bullshit. If I was in his band I would waste no time in whoopin’ his ass.
Dolving’s just pissed that all the cool bands on the tour dropped off and nobody will show up to see his boring-ass band. What a clown.
I agree with the Mighty Quinn somewhere up there. Pete never REALLY took a stab at LoG…he just basically said exactly that…LoG is the new trend and it’s being force fed to you by the business.
Which is TRUE.
The Haunted is still a very creditable underground band that offers no compromise to what they do…hence the rant we just read. It takes balls to say things like that…ESPECIALLY when youre a musician…it’s what most of us are thinking.
Someone up there said that the haunted couldn’t hold a candle to Chris Adler alone…THAT is a stupid thing to say because WAY before there was a LoG there 2 bands called INVOCATOR and AT THE GATES…
Dudes, Just because you see Chris Adler on the cover of Modern Drummer make him a GREAT drummer. Per M Jensen is not a drummer to fuck with!
Well, I WOULD go see the haunted in Calgary, but I cant because they decided to make it an 18 show, sometimes it sucks being 17
This surprises me. I thought ff they were to go after any band it would be Mastodon for taking two of the opening bands from them.
WOW…
The Haunted isn’t anywhere near as good as LoG
and even if they were that would still make this guy a self righteous pompous idiot, I don’t care how “different or awesome” his band is
If I want a “world wind night of kickass metal” I’ll go see Lamb of God
You know why Mr. Dolving
CAUSE THEY’RE BETTER
this guy really needs to get over himself and stop smelling his own shit.
It’s a sad day when people are shunning Lamb of God for being successful. They should be happy that a real, hard-working, heavy as fuck metal band is getting some success, even if they personally aren’t fans. Anyone who thinks thinks Lamb of God don’t deserve the success they’re getting is retarded.
And when you’re in a band as unremarkable as the Haunted you’re really in no position to say anything on the matter. They’re not a bad band, but they’re certainly no Lamb of God.
Surprised he didn’t call them emo..
That being said, I’d be pissed if I were in his position and trying to tour this year along with all the bigger lineups.
That also being said, he should learn that anyone that wanted to see the Haunted will still probably see the Haunted. They’re a good band, put on good shows, and have their own fanbase, and honestly, compared to a lot of metal bands out there, they’re pretty successful, especially in Europe.
Come on, you arrogant prick. Sure, Lamb of God’s last two albums were subpar, but their live show is still one of the best around. They still play plenty of old material and tear it up. The Haunted may be a good band, but they’re not very original or innovative at all, they play the same kind of loud brash metal that a million other bands play. So don’t take a stab at other bands for being generic when your band is guilty of that exact same crime.
And guess what? Music is a business! Bands shouldn’t water their music down as a business decision, but giving a band shit for having a “business-planned tour” is retarded. Every tour has sponsors. Every tour involves money, and therefore requires business-minded people to plan it out to ensure that money is gained and not lost. There’s nothing wrong with that at all, that’s just how it works.
Sounds butthurt.
Lamb Of God The Haunted = two pounds of shit.
Looks like he got some free press.
The next time there’s a story about The Haunted, put a picture of boobs with it since they need all the attention they can’t get from their music alone.
This is pretty funny, seeing as how The Haunted are terrible live. I saw them with Dark Tranquillity a couple years ago and they were pathetic. I could barely even tell what songs they were playing. Really disappointed after seeing DT, who were great. So Dolving shut the fuck up until his band is actually good.
I personally despise Dolving because he’s a fucking moron. And honestly, The Haunted music is way too generic (aside from …Made Me Do It) in my opinion. He really should just shut the hell up and concentrate on making his music.
Wow…look at all those comments! Not to beat this into the ground or anything but according to Dolving we should go see his band why? to avoid generic metalcore crap. Hmm…has he ACTUALLY listened to The Agonist? Or lets trade generic metalcore crap for tough guy hardcore posturing? How about that? sounds like a plan. Jesus, how dumb does he make us out to be.
The Haunted is a unique band “Versus took a couple listens to take in, but after that you realize how amazing it trully is.” And Dolving is a genious…I don’t agree with the LOG bashing, but I also hate it that there’s so many people saying their music blows “Most likely LOG fanboys that have never even listened to the haunted.” Fuck you all very much.
The Haunted and Lamb of God are equally shitty.
Both bands really aren’t good, but I will say I think the Haunted are fucking horrible, and live they are usually pretty eh. However, LOG always put on a show and even though I don’t really like them anymore, I’d pick seeing them over the Haunted any day.
YEAH OK DOLVING YOU PIECE OF SH!T.
1. This is just what Dallas Coyle was talking about in his blog– spray the Haterade in order to get people talking about you and get more publicity. Good job Dolving.
2. YEAH OK– SO YOU’RE ENTITLED TO TALK SHIT WHEN VERSUS WAS A GIANT TURD OF AN ALBUM?
3. SO YEAH THAT TOUR YOU’RE ON— HMMM HAUNTED A BUNCHA NO-NAMES… MEANWHILE BLYTHE IS *HEADLINING* A TOUR WITH 3 OTHER AWESOMELY HUGE BANDS: BODOM AILD GOD FORBID (and municipal waste)!!
Ok, so who’s the jackass now? Goddamn, Versus was such a disappointment, but I was happy to just leave it at that and drop it, but noooo…. Dolving has to talk some stupid shit…
I liked the Haunted when they were called At The Gates. Pfft, “real metal”
I’d care more about what this dude had to say if his band was actually heavy, extreme, or, like good.
Any one here bashing Peter Dolving on here is a ignorant, piece of shit. My band, Double Dragon had the pleasure of playing with The Haunted everynight of their recent Australian Tour ( Haunted VS AUSTRALIA ) and one, Peter Dolving face to face is one of the most warm, kind, wise, smart and honest ‘big time’ musicians I have ever met. Actually out of all the bands we have supported, ( Slayer / Lamb Of God / Soilwork / Dark Tranquillity / Black Dahlia Murder etc etc ) Peter and The Haunted were HANDS DOWN the most down to earth, friendliest guys we have ever played with. Second point, no offence to Chris Adler, but Per is THE tightest drummer I have ever seen up close. Hands down. I have seen all the best miss beats, drop sticks ( Lombardo ) but Per is one talented motherfucker, NOT to be fucked with. Third point, AT THE GATES AND HAUNTED FIRST RELEASE… to those calling this band ‘unoriginal’ is retarted, these guys, and their Swedish peers INVENTED the re hashed music that you hear today. Hey even my band wouldnt sound like they do today if it wasnt for the great music given to us ten years ago from our bro’s in Sweden. Peter Dolving, once again my hat comes off for you for once again doing nothing but stating it like it is, and fighting for the longevity of your band. For all you mallcore fuckwits out there, dont bother with the new album Versus, you will hate it, for one its recorded live, theres no jun jun breakdown and its packed with venom, no Pantera rip off anywhere and lyrically its miles above anything else in the metal genre today. Now until then… go and check out Double Dragon and I wait with baited breath for the barrage of bullshit from you ignorant Mallrats.
Dolving kicks ass. LoG is good too. seen LoG 3 times in the last year in a half (same goes for AILD). seen the hauted for a 30 minute set in 05. go see the haunted. believe me.
Lamb of God fans make me laugh. The Haunted >>>>>>>> LoG
Ironic that Mr. Dolving is ranting about Metalcore, considering that Versus in a lot of ways was a very bad attempt at that style. AND they’re touring with The Agonist. That alone takes his entire argument and flushes it down the drain. I suppose it’s too much for Mr. Dolving to put together some accurate statements before he spouts off.
He also seems to be stating that The Haunted’s tour is the only real metal tour going, and cites the Lamb of God tour as the prime example of the lousy tours that are going around. Here’s what else is currently touring around the same time as The Haunted, shall we?
Kreator/Exodus/Belphegor/Warbringer/Epicurean
Paganfest
Amon Amarth/Goatwhore
Opeth/Enslaved
Gojira
Yeah, I’ll take seeing a few fantastic tours over a band that should have stopped YEARS ago. A world class performance? I’ll be seeing some of those, and absolutely none of them will be coming from The Haunted. Sorry, but there are EASILY a lot of better options that are a lot more deserving of support. And if Mr. Dolving doesn’t think any of the bands on those tours are real metal, then he’s a lot more out of touch than anybody could have thought. Sure, there’s a lot of crap out there, as he states. But his argument is that of ignorance, arrogance, and is completely without merit. I’m sick of pariahs like this that aren’t making good music, so they get themselves publicity by almost intentionally sounding stupid. Or maybe that’s just what he wants? If so, bravo sir, you have your attention. However, it doesn’t make your music any better.
If you really want to get down to it, the only The Haunted album that Peter Dolving had anything to do with that was genuinely good was the original, self-titled effort. And that was an amazing album. rEVOLEr was below-average for a band that had released a really good string of fantastic work since their inception, and it’s been a free-fall ever since.
Lets face it: The Haunted died when Marco Aro left the band. Their style changed dramatically since his departure, and it’s gotten steadily worse with every release. Just as worse, their live performance has dropped like a rock as well. With Aro, they had presence and energy. With Dolving, it’s become a really bad circus act, as well as just plain boring. At least Aro is back in Face Down, which is one of the better bands that not many people know about.
And I’m not going to defend Lamb of God all that much, either. The quality of their music has gone from fantastic to really boring, although I’d rather listen to “Wrath” than anything The Haunted has released in the last six years. But to call out that whole tour is asinine. Children of Bodom certainly aren’t the metalcore crap that you’re claiming everything else to be, and Municipal Waste run circles around the current The Haunted. Great way to make enemies with other bands, too. I’m sure all of these bands that are touring right now just love being bashed so unconvincingly. But then again, consider the source.
I’m surprised that the Björler brothers put up with this drivel. It was fantastic seeing them reunite to tour with At The Gates, but now it’s back to this? Really, guys?
How fucking desperate can one guy get? Fucking jealous of a waaaay better band.
i dont know about anybody else but if i had the choice to either see LOG or the haunted my definite choice would be LOG. LOG easily T-Bags the HAUNTED.
FUCK THE HAUNTED.
My god some of you people are stupid… and obviously can’t read between the lines.
The Mighty Fucking Quinn is right on the money with this one. I mean honestly how many of the acts on LoG’s tour besides LoG themselves good? The answer really is one. Municipal Waste. Gd Forbid really is the same metalcore thing we’ve heard plenty of times already and Children of Bodom just need to give up, they just sound like balls in a blender live anyway and equally ball-less in studio. And you can’t really say that The Haunted’s new album is bordering metalcore, it sounds like a good mix of old and new for them. Balls out thrashy metal and the more progressive side. Still, it’s not ‘Wrath’ but i have nothing but respect for Dolving, he speaks his mind and most of the time can back it up.
And look at it this way, any publicity is good publicity, correct? You’re damn right i am.
wow, just wow. you people think” “LOG” is “bad ass” and dont know The fucking Haunted?!?! FUCK YOU. im not trashing lamb of god but fuck you. The Haunted paved the way for shit like this and you people have no respect. Grow the fuck up. Or die. Fuck you.
Double Dragon? Seriously? Your named after a shitty Super nintendo videogame? Fuck you and you precious faggot freinds the Haunted. I dont care if they are the most amazing metal band in the world, I wont spend dime 1 on a person who shits on others.
I am so sick and tired of reading posts from people that think their hot shit because they listen to some obscure band that just blastbeats their way through songs. Why is it so hard for people to listen to whatever because it sounds good to them and not because its trendy, or trve or kvlt or whatever. Hear is a clue assholes, Not listening to mainstream metal JUST because it is more popular is as bad as listeing to pop music because its popular.
Real Metal is about community NOT competition.
If you want to compete go lift some weights, join the high school football team, and punch your cheerleader girlfreind in the mouth.
Just a jealous prick who is to hoped up on coffee, and self pity that he projects outward to make himself seem superior.
I think Dolving is misunderstood. But he’s no Dio, that last Haunted album – not very good at all.
First, Peter you ever hear of a guy named Dave Mustaine? Are you both on the rag by chance?
Second, Lamb of God, I find to be “better” than The Haunted IMO but I do have respect for The Haunted. With that being said, The Haunted has no place in saying they paved the way for anyone… it was At The Gates that was so influential.
Third, Pete, buddy…. in the Metal world… all of us are brothers and sisters. You don’t have to wear your big boy tough pants and start running your mouth because all the bands on your tour hated you so they went to go chill with Troy and Mastadon.
Finally, even with all of this bitching I still look forward to seeing The Haunted at NEMHF Day 1 and then LoG on Day 2 (both for the first time).
LilalCFH, thats what Lamb of God is doing with this tour, bringing God Forbid and Municipal waste on tour with them, both of which i’m pretty sure aren’t as big album sale wise as The Haunted.
LAMB OF GOD’s Wrath >>>>>>>>>>> THE HAUNTED’s Versus
This is coming from a LONG TIME Haunted fan. Dolving needs to shut the fuck up.
Fuck LOG and all you fucking trend metal hipsters. They haven’t put out a decent record in years, and even then it was just that. Decent. This may be a pretty douchey move by Dolving, but The Haunted will always be a much better band, and their live shows are just fucking amazing. Now go listen to some Brian Jonestown Massacre and keep being a bunch of fucking whiny ass, “I’m so hurt because you insulted LOG”, cumdumpsters. People need to stop bathing LOG’s anal cavities with their tongues. It’s fucking disgusting.
The Haunted is warmed-over At The Gates. Lamb Of God are the greatest American metal band in 20 years. Dolving is a jealous douche.
Jewbacca is awfully mad just like Dolving… dude calm down Peter will be making second rate Haunted albums for a long time… enjoy : )
Fuck the Haunted, their just jealous – LoG is a band people actually give a shit about and will go see as opposed to his band. The little fucker just wants some press because his band shouldn’t even stand on the same stage as LoG
Aside from what most people would say, I completely agree with Peter. LoG can go to hell with their metalcore crap! Chris Adler,Willie Adler, and John Campbell are the only ones I respect and consider any bit talented. Blythe is an idiotic drunk and Morton isn’t anything special. The Haunted is a great band filled with people that have had to break their backs touring at the same time as pansies like LoG. I’m proud to say I chose seeing the Haunted over seeing LoG tonight and I know I won’t be disappointed with the money I spent!
Couple Of points:
1.I have to say coming from someone who doesnt live in the US and knows a bit about bands finding and planning gigs in foreign countries, the Haunted have done much much more for metal than LOG. I’m not bashing LOG, I love everyone of the album even Sacrament which everyone hates (ironically, one of their better works in my opinion.) The Haunted have toured just about every place in the world, including lesser markets such as Southeast Asia. The entire tour thing is different for them because they basically have to do all shit themselves (of course a road crew/manager exists, however from what I know much more different than having a whole company behind you working the mechanics.)—contacts with booking companies, bargaining for shit etc. Oh hell just look up the Haunted live on youtube and see all the shitty places they are willing to playing. Even fucking bar like places like they did in my country. Im not implying LOG aren’t willing to play these tours/venues, not doing enough to spread metal, etc I’m just saying the Haunted have gone the distance for their music and genre, and that to me gives them credibility to say what the hell they want.
2. Like some people above who actually got the point of this article, he’s not bashing on LOG he’s bashing on the touring system, and he clearly defines what he thinks is crap/metalcore/blahblahblah and you’re just dumb if you think LOG fits anything he said.
3. Outside of the US, I have to say The Haunted is the bigger band (although Americans don’t care and don’t realize a lot of their favorite bands are influenced greatly by bands outside of the US). This is not saying who is the better band, cause tastes differ from region to region, but no doubt The Haunted (and ATG from before) have made a deeper mark on the metal world as a whole than LOG has. IMO LOG is the face of American Metal right, but the Haunted’s works have influenced a great deal of bands, so seeing all this bashing on the Haunted here sounds really dumb to me. I totally understand if you don’t like them, but talking as if they were crap…really, shows how narrow your view of metal is.
wow, how did you fit that many mouths on lamb of god’s dick?
If the guy hadn’t tried to constantly plug his band as the one people should come see, and instead made a more general argument that people should look at all the tours going on instead of just mindlessly buying tickets to the biggest one, it would have worked a lot better, but when you say, “That tour sucks, and that one does too, it doesn’t matter if they’re all very successful and good bands, don’t go see them, come see my band! We’re better!” it tends to make people dislike your argument.
As it is, he comes off as nothing but a whiny little bitch, complaining that the big-name bands (who mostly got there because they were successful, oooo, logic!) get more and bigger live shows than small bands. Well….no shit. And when you combine the fact that some of the big tours have a LOT of good bands, compared to this rather shitty tour with a rather shitty lineup….why would you expect people to not buy tickets for the better show? I’m not going to buy tickets to a shitty small show just to give a couple small bands some money, and miss out on going to a much larger, better concert.
Yeah, a lot of metal is generic as fuck now, but that argument has been made countless times by much better writers/speakers than himself, and is rather redundant and sort of aimless here. The whole thing just sort of spirals out into a bitchy, “What I don’t like today” adolescent rant.
this shit makes me want to be a huge LOG fan. I mean, i dont even like a lot of newer LOG, and this asshole makes me want to take sides. He obviously has a low self esteem when it comes to his music,fans,and delivery live. So,m let me give him some therapy he so soarly needs…SHUT THEFUCKUP,AND GO TO HELL!
I guess I’m the odd man out here. I didn’t see Dolving’s LoG comment as slamming LoG as much as making a comment on generic corporate lineups. I’ve personally declined going to shows where there is only one band on the bill I actually want to see b/c there are 2 or 3 or 4 shitty bands to suffer through first. I think Mr Dolving is just blowing off some steam for not being part of a larger bill that would allow more people to hear The Haunted. The Haunted are a really good band and I have to admit I’d like to see them on a bigger tour just to see what the exposure can do for them. So I get where Dolving is coming from which makes this a damn fine rant and if it takes pissing off LoG who have been put out there as the “metal saviours” then so be it. I’m an LoG fan but they are more than just a little overexposed not unlike Metallica and Megadeth in the 80s and 90s and look how well that turned out.
It’s really simple.
I’ll see LoG because I like their music.
I won’t see The Haunted because I don’t like their music.
And now, I think Dolving is a whining douche bag because they won’t sell as many tickets as other bands. If you shut up and put more of that hate/energy into your music/shows and create something noteworthy instead of common and bland you might get more fans and sell more tickets.
Ha. dolving alludes to Lamb of god being generic. The fact is , that the haunted takes the mediocre award home in this contest. None of the haunted’s albums stand up to Lamb of God’s classic records and to be honest their new record is quite weak. Moronic Colossus is a shit-kicker, but I alwasy start yawning after the third or fourth track . If this clown thinks his band beats out wrath he’s a fucking tool. Sounds like another B-level band got jealous that someone else worked harder than them, made better music, and turned out to be the biggest name in american metal.
I used to just think dolving was a wierdo, but wow… what a whiny bitch. Is there any reason to call out lamb of god, or any other band in particular for that matter? Seems to me that all he wants to do is start some juvenile bullshit nonsense in the press. How pathetic.
I’m quite glad I never purchased any material by the haunted – After this BS post I’m happy they don’t have my financial support.
Alot of people here have called Lamb Of God “generic metalcore”, but I don’t see it. And I love all metal music, including “generic metalcore”. I hear it every day and know what it consists of. I have every cd by August Burns Red, As I Lay Dying, All That Remains, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, The Agony Scene, I Killed The Prom Queen, Inhale Exhale, and many, many others. The point I’m trying to make is there is absolutely NO GENERIC METALCORE to be heard ANYWHERE in Lamb Of God’s music. There just isn’t.
The Haunted have blown ass since this “Moronic Colossus” returned to the fold. This retarded douche is just trying to stir some controversy (What is this US magazine???) since his bands tour shit the bed due to the openers getting way better offers (by better I mean sitting around with a broken leg instead of dealing with this fruitcake for a month!). Admittedly, the Lamb Of God tour isn’t much better line up wise…but at least their front man isn’t trolling the internet bashing another band in the vain hopes of siphoning off some fans. Get hit by a bus you fucking idiot!
Lamb of God suck. They’re the most generic shit ever.
the haunted was cool marco aro era, but now that dolving is back with them, they kinda started sucking.LoG kinda started sucking with sacrament. I wouldn’t pay to see either of these bands live anymore.
Used to really dig LOG until this last album and after seeing them live. They are pretty dang boring. I even accidentally wrote a LOG riff. Could’ve been used on this latest album. Which isn’t sayin much.
The best thing in this news is the new Merauder song in the The Haunted/Merauder/The Agonist tour widget player !!! :)
Dolving sounds kinda unnessisarily bitter and maybe needs some therapy but I don’t think he’s directly insulting LOG. If I’m not mistaken there are a lot of other ‘for lack of a better term’ “generic” bands on that tour and as far as The Haunted falling into the current trend I don’t see it. I don’t see any trend whore/death core bands recording their albums live! The Haunted have always sounded like The Haunted and they might have had some lackluster songs but it still dosen’t sound like anyone else.
Peter Dolving shut the fuck up. Your band is generic metalcore too.
hey LEE….
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR GAY BAND…
this dude from the haunted can go fly a kite…lamb of god shits on the haunted. PERIOD.
Peter Dolving sounds like a pro wrestler getting interviewed before a match. In my opinion, the last 3 haunted records have been fucking garbage. Even when they were good, they still were just a copy of other good bands. So pete, be careful where you pull out the generic metal card, especially on Lamb of God who in my opinion just released the best, most metal album of their career.
im pretty un biased about either of these bands but ive seen both live and lamb of god was 1000 times better, i’ve even seen some of these highschool doods put on better shows. thats the truth
That’s wierd that he talks so much trash. The haunted has not released a good record since One Kill Wonder. His band mates need to tell him not to bash LOG because if LOG were to ask them to be apart of that tour they would in second. If you are going to bash bands atleast bash the ones that need to be bashed. Like In this Moment or any of the new Death core crap that’s flooding the music scene. You know…. the bands that were turquoise t-shirts. Stuff like that.
It also needs to be said that Dolving is a fucking retard for calling Lamb of God “generic metalcore by the numbers”. They’re barely even metalcore at all, and certainly aren’t a generic representative of the genre.
Let me know when any of these whiny ass fucks like The Haunted or LOG come out with an album like the new Pestilence or Obscura then they can talk all the smack they want about being “generic”. Until then, Quit Yer Bitchin’ and STOP pulling songs out yer ass!!
FUCKING POSERS!
Hmmm am not sure everyone sees this like me, but dont you think that Peter and Randy look alike ?
http://www.thrashhits.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/peter-dolving.gif
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Randy_Blythe-4114.jpg
You people really call your selfs metal fans?? Do you understand what Thrash metal is? What the fuck? You compare The Haunted With Lamb of god?Heheh how small you are! No Fashion- No fake sate of values – NO FALSE PRIDE! and then you wonder how people think like that! We have humans like Peter who can wright lyrics like The haunted lyrics and we have animal like you who open their mouth and say all this bullshit about him or about phil anselmo! Ooo miror miror on the wall who`s the biggest fuck of them all!!
I was thinking about NOT going. now I feel like i must.
i have to… he makes too good of a point lamb of god will be around like 5 times and i’ll probably see them …like 5 times. I should be going to this. fuck it.
You know I was gonna see such great acts as Napalm Death or Kreator, but now I feel I must give up my tickets to see At The Gates guitarists begrudgingly play with a king rapcore imbecile.
C’mon twins, you know how good it fell to be with At The Gates again.
Not to sound like a pansy but have some fucking tact. People should go see your show because they like your music, not because Lamb of God are touring five times this year. If they are touring 5 times, there must be demand. Way to get some press though!
It’s always a good laugh to see people act without thinking, and tarnish their reputation.
Though I really saw no direct bashing of LoG, He seems pretty confident that his band is something more than average, which in my opinion, is not.
I agree with Dolving, and I wish I could see The Haunted play more often than they do. It cracks me up how the majority of you here didn’t get it, and will probably never get it.
LOG=cookie cutter mallcore. The Haunted=METAL that actually matters. LMAO at all the idiot fucksticks who think LOG matters one bit in the grand scheme of things. “REDNECK! WHOO-HOO!”… Why don’t you all go organize a circle jerk for yourselves, during which, you can chant the opening lines of “Omerta”. Did you forget them? Just look at each others’ backs. I’m sure the “lyrics” are tattooed on the naked dude next to you. FUCKING IDIOT BROS.
Guys, guys, if you would read each others comments and for that matter any other dispute for these kind of issues, you will understand that it is pointless. So what if Dolving sounds like a dick (even though I also don’t believe he verbally attacked LoG), that doesn’t mean that the Haunted sucks, o faithful and angry LoG mob. In that case that would mean that Megadeth suck (well some recent albums do) just because Dave can’t seem to shut up. Or just because Pete is pissed of with the way the music industry works, that makes LoG a less cool band (these dudes got some sick songs!!!).
But the Haunted are one of the bands responsible for the modern thrash movement that incorporates hardcore vocals. So it doesn’t sound generic, more archetypal I would say. And even they have a lot of Slayer elements in their music. So by your definition Slayer sounds generic (I know I am stretching it, but just proving a point).
So the Haunted have some cool records and songs and Lamb of God have some cool records and songs. Enjoy the music, which is the most important thing and stop about all these secondary bullshit.
BOO-HOO, Dolving.
Lamb of God saved me from killing myself 2 years ago. I fucking love that band. I haven’t heard much of The Haunted, and I can’t really say I like them, but I’m not going to trash them. Stop being so jealous of a band who’s at the top of the metal kingdom, and because people can’t stand to be around a dick such as yourself. Grow the fuck up.
And fuck you Motoghost–DON’T YOU DARE PUT DOWN LAMB OF GOD
P.S. Dolving, change your tampon and shut the fuck up
while I’m not a lamb of god fan, i’m not convinced that lamb of god is ‘the man’
anyway, the only tours i’m considering are moonsorrow[paganfest]
and belphegor[kreator]
not into the haunted- as far as i can hear, disfear does it better.
So Peter, what’s it like being a douchebag?
I decided to hold off on commenting because I had tickets to The Haunted’s stop in Chicago. To all the people who are saying that The Haunted suck, get your fucking ears checked
When he makes a record as good as Ashes of the Wake maybe he can talk shit about The Haunted are good but Lamb of God is better.
Wow, funny how upset people are. Peter Dolving don’t even bash on Lamb of God.
What he is saying is that you don’t get many chances of seeing The Haunted in the States so that’s why you should go and see them. Unlike Lamb of God who tours the states frequently.
The Haunted is my number one favorite band, I absolutley love Dolvings voice, its one of the most aggressive voices in the entire metal scene if you ask me. Lamb of god is also one of my favorite bands.
You people are feeding into nothing!!!!! first off LOG was at the Haunteds show in Canada they are friends!!
Will Adler was in the pit for the whole Merauder set fucking shit up Do any off you know who Merauder is ??? NO because you only eat what is fed to you !!!!!!!! God Forbid also covered Merauders Song Masterkiller along with Hatebreed (life is Pain) so dont say Merauder is a shity band they have paved a way for all this shit ….are all you dudes sucking somebody off in one of the bands ….Get A Life
@thedownfallofchrist : +10000
Dolving is an idiot. I agree with the fact that he did not “BASH” LoG. However he went about proving his point in a very bad way. Also why on earth would someone give up a chance to see a band they love to see one they could care less about. If you are a Haunted fan then you will go see them over LoG. I am a LoG fan so I will see them. His harsh words do nothing but make him look like a spoiled little child who is not getting his way. Epic fucking fail buddy!
“Wah Wah boo hoo I hate metal thats successful.”