DALLAS COYLE ON THE NEW TERMINATOR MOVIE, CHRISTIAN BALE, AND THE DESENSITIZATION OF SOCIETY (OH YEAH: AND HIS SPLIT FROM GOD FORBID)
Thursday, April 30th, 2009 at 5:20pm by Dallas Coyle
The Rise Of Extremism and Terminator Salvation
A lot of you complained about my last blog and how I didn’t talk about metal and my decision to leave God Forbid. Unfortunately, some people just don’t get how certain things relate to each other and it’s not my job to help the short bus kids along. Don’t look in the mirror. I don’t want you to think I’m talking about you. You’re not that important. With that said, my Susan Boyle blog was completely metal and did relate to me exiting God Forbid even if I left before Susan Boyle became famous. It like Tupac making videos and albums after he was shot to death. We all know Tupac lives. He really does!
I’m going to talk about the most metal thing ever. Extremism and Terminator Salvation. If you saw the Terminator Salvation trailer before it was rated PG-13 you probably thought it was going to be the best movie ever. That trailer is absolutely bad-ass.
Here it is:
When it was rated PG-13 a lot of fan boys started crying and saying this movie was going to be shit. I haven’t seen it but I think it’s going to be great even at PG-13 and I’ll tell you why.
1) Christian Bale’s freak-out on set.
After this happened so many people said Christian Bale was a whiner and a loser. I tend to disagree. Especially after his apology. He was channeling John Connor and that’s why he freaked out, so he says. Mark a win for Terminator Salvation. It being PG-13 I doubt he’ll be able to say, “WHAT DON”T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND?! I’M GONNA KICK YOUR FUCKIN’ ASS!” So that kind of sucks.
2) It’s Terminator and Transformers in one with the tone of The Dark Knight.
TDK and Transformers were PG-13 and Terminator was R. Put the three together and you get a ‘hard PG-13′. Second win for Terminator Salvation.
3) Terminators have a metal endo-skeleton and in this film there are pure metal Terminators.
It’s metal as hell. Win number three.
4) The Dark Knight was PG-13, it kicked major ass and Jonathan Nolan, co-writer of TDK, helped write Terminator Salvation.
Win number four.
5) Nine Inch Nails accompanies the trailer.
6) We live in a more extreme society than back in the 90’s. We can take a hell of a lot more in a PG-13 rating.
Sixth win for Terminator Salvation.
A PG-13 rating these days is like an R rating ten years ago. We live in a culture where Zac Efron’s new movie seems to be promoting fucking and having babies at 18 ( I didn’t see it. I learned this on www.huffingtonpost.com). Observe and Report, Seth Rogen’s mall cop movie, has an alleged date rape scene. It was rated R. Date rape ain’t a laughing matter. Ten years ago it would have been NC-17.
Our kids are more extreme, they ingest more and they are getting smarter. Deathcore is a good example of how fast these kids have become. I literally saw a kid headbang to The Faceless so fast his head exploded. I’d say The Faceless is PG-13 but still bad ass. Especially with exploding heads of suburban white kids who love screamo-crunk!
I call this blog The Hard R because I talk about shit that you shouldn’t talk about. When it comes to Terminator Salvation I’m sure it’s going to kick all kinds of ass. Most likely the producers and studio paid for that so The Faceless fans and Asher Roth kids can go see the film without their mommies having to attend. In a way maybe PG-13 is helping our society. Maybe the 13-18 year olds will stop fucking and doing meth for a bit to go see these flicks?
To close, I left God Forbid because I had personal issues to deal with and I felt I needed to move on. I’m proud of my time with the band and I’m proud of all the records we made. It was time to move on and that’s it.
I’ll leave you off with a cool remix from Christian Bale’s freak out by RevoLucian! Totally fucking metal. If you make a good metal remix of his freak out I will call you personally and insult you!
Dallas has obviously got a lot of time on his hands.
Could you not fap off in private to some porn or something?
no dude. no. btw owen is a gay name
Dallas, I miss you already. Im glad I got to meet you before you left. Good luck with everything!
Terminator is going to OWN!!!!
I wouldn’t exactly call The Faceless deathcore, but I’ve seen the slated as such. Planetary Duality is a great album.
Other than that, you see a lot of movies these days being rated a little lower than they would have 10 years ago. Even television programming has changed a bit. There’s a lot of sexual reference in teen targeted television and we wonder why our kids glorify sex openly more than ever and have stupid fuck-headed teenage boys getting in trouble for taking nudy pics of teenage girls with their cell phones and sending them to their buddies and getting in trouble with the law. My son ever does that and I’ll beat him in to a bloody pulp. OK, I’ve trailed off…
I enjoy The Hard R, regardless whether it’s about music or not. Whatever your reasoning behind leaving GF is, they are your reasons for no one else to criticize or question. We all need a little restructuring every now and then to get our lives back on track. Good luck in whatever your next ventures are, Dallas.
really? or would you take his phone and look at them yourself?
Thanks Dallas, that clip is fucking awesome!
you’ll be back eventually.
Actually, there used to be absolutely no PG-13 rating whatsoever, and nudity would occasionally occur on PG movies. I would have to say our society has become very sensitive to just about everything remotely offensive and the ratings seem to be more strict.
Don’t get me started on the stupidity of parents when it comes to the video game rating system. It’s even clearer than the movie rating system and parents still don’t seem to understand it.
Yeah, it is an oversimplification to say that ratings have gotten more lenient. I think there is more hardcore sex and such things in R than there used to be, but if people remember back in the 1980s, with all the stupid teen/horror flicks where there was always an obligatory set of boobs shown, if not more. Those were oftentimes PG-13, if not PG (before PG-13 arrived) but nowadays, most nudity gets stashed in R. There are obviously exceptions though. Also, The Faceless is NOT deathcore.
Dear Dallas,
I am not so caught up on the times and did not realize you left GODFORBID till now, and I am not going to bitch at you like alot of others for leaving. You have your reasons for leaving, especially with you having a baby, and that I can respect alot. You are a great guitarist and I am a fan of your playing and I wish you the best of luck and I give you all my support in whatever comes your way. Keep is metal.
write more often!
1990 – calling terrorists ragheads is perfectly acceptable, but no tits are allowed.
2010 – showing tits everywhere is perfectly acceptable, but nothing that could possibly be construed as any sort of slur isn’t allowed.
Im glad you are continuing to write these articles, Hopefully well see you play music again soon. Best of luck!
Live Free or Die Hard was PG-13 and it was epic. Terminator Salvation is going to kick more ass than that dude who knocked out Danzig.
Die Hard was an epic movie. Everything thereafter was a joke. The dude that knocked out Danzig will forever only be “That dude that knocked out Danzig” and nothing more. He’ll never have a three name serial killer status, that’s for sure. Glenn had it coming though.
Well that was asinine. Essentially, “Terminator looks cool.” Dude, you could twitter that. In 140 characters or less. Blog usefulness = negated.
Time to move on? To what? Being the Andy Rooney of Metalsucks?
He will be back eventually, i mean godforbid members are broke as it is so just imagine dallas without godforbid.
poor guy all he has left is blog for free
PG13 is the ongoing death knell of film. Don’t do this…don’t say that. Play it safe (near the edge if you must), but for the sake of all the children – DON’T GO OVER THE EDGE!
While the kids may be growing thicker skins at a much younger age than may have been the case ten-twenty years ago, society is fast becoming a no-no-zone in terms of what is considered offensive. Hell, if you throw a bit of plastic in the trash, you are branded as an insensitive jerk. And God help you if you publicly make known your thoughts of…oh, say…a woman’s ass – it used to be that you risked a slap in the face; these days you will probably lose your pants – and not as you might want to do so!
The Dark Knight “kicked major ass”…? Well, let’s be honest – it was good, but ass kicking? Perhaps with padded shoes it was. The psychopathic, mental make-up of the Joker would have been better presented in a full-on R rated ‘this film is going to fuck you up’ scenario. And Transformers? Hold on a second – that one was destined to be PG13 fare – it should not even be mentioned here in relation to talking about this upcoming Terminator film.
Mainstream Films are carefully edited so as to not include anything remotely offensive – this to encourage a larger line of punters at the box office. And it seems, to that (with greater frequency), The studios are hard pressed to provide financial backing to anything which will not fit into a nice and secure PG13 rating. There are not many directors with the clout allowing them to stand up ‘for their art’ when it comes to dealing with the studio brass. So far as Terminator Salvation goes – It will probably be good, but I feel confident in saying that I will walk out of the theater feeling much as I did when I saw Alien Vs Predator – Fuck PG13. Of course, not even the so-called director’s cut (of that one) gave us what should have been a mega violent film.
The ‘kids’ may be “more extreme”, they may “ingest more” these days. I don’t know if “they are getting smarter” – unless you are factoring in the ‘raised-on-Google aspect. And still, PG13 is the barbed wire fence standing between spoon-fed candy and a bucket o’ blood.
Whoa, actors are crazy. Bale needs a damn Xanax or six.
“Our kids are more extreme, they ingest more and they are getting smarter.”
Here’s an example of these “smarter” kid’s “metal”:
melody + screams
melody + clean vox
chugging syncopation
sweep sweep sweep
chugging syncopation
back into melody + vocals
another breakdown
sweep sweep sweep
Yea…? what’s your point?
melody = can’t complain
syncopation = mmm fun
sweep = ooo fast, yum
breakdown = let’s mosh
sweep = mmm more fun
yay
This blog is further proof that Dallas Coyle’s opinion on anything is as worthless as the music act he’s associated with.
Nice.That’s beyond harsh isn’t it? What did he do to you that was so bad?
Jesus, some people…
Today’s kids are more extreme? Have you been to a high school lately (my wife teaches High School Spanish)? These kids are sheltered fucking crybabies that expect everything handed to them on a silver platter. Many of their parents are the same people that are so easily offended and lawsuit happy about everything that they don’t agree with. When in the FUCK did it become necessary to treat kids like goddamn priceless artifacts instead of letting them just be kids and do the dumb shit kids do? Popular media promotes shit like Miley Cyrus and My Super Sweet 16 to these cookie cutter cloned children and they buy into that shit. For every kid that’s into metal, or just good music in general, there’s a thousand that buy into the corporate shit they’re being fed. These kids are being given everything, taught nothing and just look at the rise in teenage violence. They have no way to get their aggression out of their systems. You can’t punch a mother fucker in the face that fucks with you in High School anymore, you get expelled. Many, many parents are too wrapped up in their own pointless existence to provide any guidance for their children. Shit, you just don’t see kids asking to mow your lawn or shovel your driveway anymore. They’re lazy, spoiled, little pricks. Of course there are exceptions, but the kids you see at a metal show are probably the most well adjusted kids out there.
You gotta point there about what the media feels is ok for kids and what isn’t. Metal music has always been treated as some sort of corrupting evil that will turn your children into violence psychos. All the while, rap music is constantly shoved down our throat through every media outlet possible. Typically containing lyrics that actually do promote violence, abusing women, and not giving a fuck about anyone other than yourself.
Metal often is about violence, death, and evil shit, but I have found that it is more about exploring the evil in the world, inside ourselves, and looking at it from an objective point of view.
People who don’t get metal just see some crazy demon on the album cover and decide that it’s all bad, then go out and let their dipshit kid who is having an identity crisis go get the new emenem album.
Agreed. If you look at the imagery in metal as opposed to the imagery in rap, you can clearly see the difference. It’s like watching the Lord of the Rings and then watching Platoon. Sure, they are about the same thing (war), but that’s where the similarities end. More often than not, metal’s violent imagery has always been of a fantastical sort, whereas the violence portrayed in rap stems from the real world. Don’t even get me started about the dumbing down of popular culture rap has caused. It promotes stupidity, ignorance, violence, greed, degradation of women and gays. The list goes on and on. It preys on the weak minded and easily influenced.
I remember when rap music first hit the airwaves. It was the rap kids that were the outcasts, the weirdos. I give credit to them for going in their own direction and doing their own thing, despite popular opinion. Metal is just like that now. I know kids that had never listened to a metal album and would go so far as to call it stupid because that’s what they were programmed to think. Then they listen to that album or even one song and the whole thing changes for them. The moment you open your mind and step away from the sheep is the greatest moment in your life. Realizing your individuality has become almost a lost art to kids.
i think metalsucks should have an all out discussion about this topic here with you guys at the start of it. im to lazy to add anything, but i know several people who think ozzy and metallica are screaming ” cant understand a word you say bands” and i cant stand it. if you dont like metal thats fine, but these kids say it constantly. my teacher played a marilyn mansion song ( i know- not real metal) for a columbine study, and these kids were terrified. definetly put in their place
If this dude isn’t joking about Tupac being alive, then he has lost all crediblity.
com’on, man – get it together.
empire of the gun should be on the terminator sound track.
I think your departure from GF caught a lot of us off guard because for the months leading up to the release of Earthsblood you were very “up” and positive about it. It was the sudden (from outside appearances anyway) about-face from huge excitement to leaving the band.
As for fans here demanding your explanation, just remember that “fan” is short for “fanatic”.
Ah C’mon…Dallas Ramble On…..You really suck now…peace Raul
Why hate on Dallas for his opinions? It’s no different than the rest of the people running this site spouting their opinions.
home before homies.
Huh, what?
I do note that Bill has a point.
A lot of people are pussies now. Kids today are growing to be bigger pussies than kids in the past. I mean, while we sort of had pads to make things hurt less, these fuckers now are living bubble-children. Remember that one kid in Malcom In the Middle…actually…remember both of Malcom’s friends? The wheel chair kid and the other nerd with the glasses? Those are basically the personification of kids today. Their mothers coddle them and wipe their asses all day. They’re told that so much shit out there is evil and dangerous, or they aren’t told at all. They’re fed slop from the trough and accept it as fact.
Ever notice how a lot of scene kids and hipsters are into the shit they are into right now and call it Metal? Like the first time they hear something distorted…it’s like. “That must be that Metal everyone tells us to avoid.”
While everyone else who’s grown out of their training wheels have been listening to a completely different standard of music and call it Metal? Passed down from generation and changed and molded into what it is today with it’s heavy and extreme genres? Nobody has to tell them what it is, because they haven’t been blinded by the retard helmet that is current society.
You can’t tell me the metalcore/deathcore/fill-in-the-blank-core kiddies aren’t sheltered. I’ve known a bunch of them. I was in a band with a few of them. I’ve played shows with several of them. A lot of them are as sheltered as they could possibly be.
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