MARILYN MANSON & METALSUCKS AGREE: WES BORLAND IS A HYPOCRITE TOOL BAG

Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 at 11:00am by

manson-borlandTo review: last year Wes Borland joined Marilyn Manson. This seemed a little odd because while Manson and Borland both like to play dress-up, Manson is a known Limp Bizkit hater – a fact which Manson explained away at the time by claiming that Borland “used to be in a really terrible band that he left because he felt that it was a destructive force in art.”

Of course, this little marriage didn’t last very long because Borland went running back to Bizkit, thus making Manson look like a fool or, at best, pretty naieve.

So, of course, Manson being the God of Shit Talkers, he has now lashed out at Borland in Kerrang:

“We almost made the mistake of having Wes play guitar but he re-joined Limp Bizkit,” Manson explains. “That move forever eradicated my feelings on his choices in life as an artist.”

When asked why he thinks Borland went back to his old band, Manson said: “That is what I find myself asking when I urinate sometimes. He said he would never go back. If the reason is money, then I’d rather roll up a 5 note and shove it up my urethra. I’d rather set my dick on fire than join something that I hated.”

And Kerrang, being the dilligent rock journalists that they are, immediately ran out and got Borland’s retort:

“I wrote nine songs to be submitted to the Manson record and none of them made it. I was really in hired gun land there, but was sort of being told that I wasn’t. So when I figured that whole thing out, I knew I was never going to get an inch into that band.

“I love Manson,” he added. “He’s definitely one of the wildest personalities I’ve ever been around and one of the smartest people I’ve ever met but it’s the Marilyn Manson show over there – Limp Bizkit is more of a band.”

Borland’s response is actually very well mannered, and I might even sympathize with the dude – surely it is more fun to be a in band where you get to be a contributor than just a “hired gun” – if not for the fact that he’s a fucking liar who denied he was re-joining Limp Bizkit a mere week before reuniting with the nu-rap act. The concept that it’s better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven kinda loses all meaning when you spent the last few years telling anyone who would listen that you had no desire to ever be associated with Hell again, ever, under any circumstances.

I still have no friggin’ clue who the new guitar player for Manson is – if it were up to me, they’d either re-hire Tim Skold as a guitarist or do whatever it takes to bring Zim Zum back – but I expect Borland to be the lastest guitar player in Guns N’ Roses by this time next year. And if he thought being a hired gun for Manson was bad, he should try being a hired Gunner for a change.

-AR

[via Blabbermouth]

  • Blackthorned

    I think the well-mannered response had a lot to do with Manson pretty much calling it like it is, and Wes having zero credibility now after all his u-turns – surely even he knows it too.

  • diego

    interesting… but anyway those two are low level musicians,,so Icould care less

  • http://www.welovemetal.com JB Martell

    I thought this was a match made in heaven to be honest. I’m not surprised because Durst is like some kind of cult leader wtih his band members. Money, money, money, what more can you say.

  • DemonicLemming

    What with Manson’s recent releases being what they were – utter shit – is he really in a position to call any other band out? Limp Bizkit didn’t do anything different than the trendy “_____-core” bands that get so much love on here – make shitty music for the new thing – they just happened to do it in a way that not everyone liked. Sorta like Suicide Silence and the rest of that shit. No, they were never a good band, but then, it’s been a long, long time since Manson could say any different about his own group.

    • http://www.myspace.com/somethinglikesweet CJ

      Agreed.

  • Sammy

    I dislike (to be well mannered about it) both bands. But as far as Borland’s about-face or change of mind or whatever, I know that in the business world, it’s like a continual poker game. You never show your hand. Leverage is important, even if you end up looking like a hypocrite.

    That said, I’m not sure which is a more horrific thought: being a hired gun in a shitty Manson band or a contributing member to a shittier Limp Bizkit. I guess if you’re eating shit, you go with the higher paying gig.

  • Bill

    Raise your hand if you care about either one of these fuckers.

    *crickets*

  • Delusional

    hahahahahhaa “more of a band”

  • http://runningthevoodoodown.blogspot.com pdf

    I’ve heard the new Manson album. It doesn’t matter who played on it; it’s just more of his same old tired bullshit. The whole album just goes back and forth between two lyrical modes – it’s an hour of “Ooh, ooh, I’m a scary scary demon…but I get sad sometimes, too,” and the music sounds just like every one of his other albums, a mix of NIN ripoff and 70s Bowie ripoff. Ever yawn so hard you think your jaw might pop loose like a snake swallowing a calf? That’s how I felt listening to the new Manson album.

  • RobotScythe

    Of course it’s for money. How can you possibly get any type of artistic satisfaction playing in Limp Bizkit????

    As for Manson, I saw him last year with Slayer. He still puts on a hell of a show but his last few albums haven’t been all that great.

    • Jimmy

      Your comment made no fucking sense. How can you get artistic satisfaction playing songs you didn’t write and not aloud to write?

      He’s better off in Bizkit where he can play what he writes and actually has a voice in where the band goes.

      And in my personal opinion, Limp Bizkit >>>> Manson.

  • Uglymicrowave

    Other than posting about these washed up 90′s acts can you write some updates on TOOL…since they’ll never be washed up

    • cosk

      and even if they do become washed up, no one will ever admit it.

  • Rik

    Wes Borland may be a hypocrite (how is this even news? He already re-joined Limp Bizkit once) But Manson is a tool bag just for being Manson. He’s such an egotistical gimmicky twat and his music sucks. Some of his old stuff was okay I guess, if you could overlook his twattishness.

  • Rik

    Oh and Wes didn’t say he wouldn’t rejoin LB a week before he did, that was a 2 year old interview that everyone was taking out of context. I mean, he’s still a hypocrite, but yeah, he wasn’t saying that a week before.

  • Sammy

    C’mon Rik, since when have blogs relied on facts? Isn’t rumor, innuendo, out-of-context-quoting and speculation so much more divisive and incendiary?

    • Ben

      This may be the truest thing I’ve EVER read online.

  • http://www.themetalreporter.net TMR

    Wow,

    Manson is infact the God Of Shit Talking, but thats all he does. Wes has been officially an idiot for a while now.

    I still cant figure out why Limp Bizkit are re-uniting…

    But anyway, this is just a mash up of idiocy, the only thing I like about Manson now is his Mic, thats one hell of a sweet mic. other then that his music became too much of a rip off.

  • LaingerCT

    So who’s the more irrelevant band here, Manson or Limp??

    Here’s what this story would look like on Twitter: Mediocre guitar player left mediocre band for an even less mediocre band. Filed this under ‘Who gives a shit.’

  • Whittemore

    I agree with Borland on this one

  • Brock

    Did I turn the stove off? That is more important than what is going on here.

  • iolanach

    Really? Manson and Borland?

    Who gives a flying fuck?!?!?

  • \m/Eluveitie\m/

    Is Wes Borland related to Al Borland?

    • seveword

      I don’t think so, Tim.

  • http://infinitybasement.wordpress.com billybob

    Manson should get Robin Finck. After this summer’s touring with Nails he’ll be un(band)employed, that should do just fine.

  • Big Balls 99

    R you people fucking retarded! this man is the furthest thing from metal as i have ever seen. If you call dressing up as a transvestite and putting on make up “metal” then the dick has gone so far up your ass that it rattled your brain. If I wanted to see the rocky horror picture show I’d watch the movie! Metal is about being good musicians and taking pride in your music not dressing up like a faggot and getting surgery to suck ur own puny dick. But i can see why he did it. I mean no woman would ever put their lips around that pathetic excuse for a penis.

    • Jimmy

      Well aren’t you clever?

    • fate fa sho

      Twisted sister dressed normal and the weren’t metal at all … Right ? Well way better music n no self-weenie-suckers in that band lol

  • uLy

    I hope both Limp and Manson have horrific album sales this year and I hope Manson gets bood off stage during Mayhem.

  • Porkspam

    you know what’d give Wes credit? If he ditched manson for weird al. Only THEN would he, ironically, not be a joke..

    SKold is back with sascha from kmfdm (just put out “skold vs kmfdm”)
    Zim Zum has some shitty wanna be band playing around LA (trivia he raped a girl on manson’s rape the world tour, and the band had to pay her off to keep it quiet)
    John 5 is still with zombie and probably the better for it
    Daisy is back to working with Madonna Wayne Gacy on music so I doubt that’s an option for guitarists…
    and those are the important manson guitarists and their current whereabouts… not like anybody asked or cared.

  • Martin

    Yeah, Limp Bizkit is by no means a good band.

    However, Wes Borland writes some BAD ASS riffs.