NON-FEAR FACTORY FEAR FACTORY MAY NOT BE CALLED FEAR FACTORY AFTER ALL (GOT ALL THAT?)
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 at 1:00pm by Axl Rosenberg
Quick re-cap: first original Fear Factory members Dino Cazares and Burton C. Bell announced they were teaming up with non-original Fear Factory member Byron Stroud and never-a-Fear Factory member Gene Hoglan to start a band that would not be called Fear Factory.
Several weeks later the band announced that they would be called Fear Factory.
Now our pal Anso DF at Hipsters Out of Metal! is reporting that original Fear Factory drummer Raymond Herrera told some radio show that nu-Fear Factory can’t be called Fear Factory no’ mo’:
[Christian Olde Wolbers] and I are actually still in Fear Factory. There’s a big legal battle going on right now. Essentially, what’s happened is the big guy and the singer have become friends again and they decided to start a new band, and decided to call it Fear Factory. They never communicated with us about it and act like there was never any contract. So it’s almost like them two against us two; it’s kind of a stalemate. I don’t know what’s gonna happen with the trademark, so to speak. It’s a weird situation.
Despite the fact that this is all enough to make me feel like I’m reading a Heller novel and/or go cross-eyed, I’m not emotionally invested enough (or at all, really) in Fear Factory to find all this bullshit anything but highly amusing. Is it possible that Bell and Cazares are really so dumb that they’re trying to re-start Fear Factory when they don’t have the legal right to do so? I’m guessing they’ll begin their argument with the ol’ “Herrera and Wolbers quit the band and therefore forfeited their ownership” chestnut before finally paying their former band mates a big fat settlement check.
Either that, or they’ll become the 90s answer to LA Guns and we’ll have two Fear Factories roaming the planet. And guess what? I still won’t care about either one as anything other than a source of humor. Which is why I’d like to suggest in advance that the Herrera/Wolbers FF hire Tommy Vext as their vocalist. Zing!
-AR
I think all that is to be learnt here is that Burton and Dino are douchebags. Although we already knew Dino was. A huge bag full of douche.
I think it’s a shame that they felt the need to do this. The main reason the initial Dino split happened was because he and Burton didn’t get along, now that they’re getting along again why does that mean they have to exclude Ray and Christian?
While it was definitely a douchebag thing of Burton and Dino to do this, musically I’m all for it – Christian and Raymond are still all about nu-metal these days, judging by the sound of the snooze-fest that is Arkaea.
I’m not looking forward to the new Fear Factory any more. What a shame…
Why, just because of the name? I admit it’s a bit disappointing, but it should still sound the same.
Jump on money, they need the “brand” to sell more records, make more money. I am still foolish enough to believe that contemporary heavy metal isn’t made for money only, the sad realisation is slowly coming.
Just in case by mainstream metal i mean bands like Iron Maiden or Avanged 7fold etc.
“brand” indeed.
Chris and Ray would be familiar with that idea, too.
dont forget the FF myspace and website was all about selling cocaine energy drinks, Dinkys and anything else theywanted to palm off during the COW years.
everyone has been talking about how Burt is fucked, etc, but he wanted to leave fear factory. It was Ray and Chris who talked him back into it, cos they saw money in it. im all for the music, after all. thats what bands are meant to do
Well yeah someone needs to pay for those Car notes, morgages, Guitars, Strings, Gas, Tour bus, roadies, Hoes, silent money for those hoes, wife’s shopping spree’s, Weed, drugs, xbox’s, Ps3’s,Games, Food, Clothes, amps, beer, studio equipment, “Vacations” to costa rica, Vegas stops, Tattoo’s and enough to keep dino from eating them like the last pre fear factory band mates.
I never really listened to Fear factory when they were around the first time, but i do know that ascension of the watchers and divine heresy are both pretty lame.
I think all 4 are douche bags. But the best way to settle this would be to have each mini Fear Factory write a new song, and then have a nationwide vote on who sounds more like old cool Fear Factory. Answer….Dino/Bell, cause they were the only thing that even set that band apart.
And then we can go back to not buying their CD’s, not going to their shows, not caring, and finally they will realize that all 4 of them are all irrelevant together.
Pretty much this. Dino/Bell – a much better combination that Chris/Ray
Unless they’re reuniting so that they can exclusively play songs from Soul Of A New Machine, which they’re not, a Fear Factory reunion is about as exciting as painting the grass and watching it grow while the paint dries.
I’m a huge FF fan but I really don’t see what’s so great about that album. I guess it was somewhat of a milestone in metal history but then Demanufacture just perfected it.
I’d say Burton’s reunion with Dino would mean a lean towards FF’s heavier material, so I definitely wouldn’t count out Soul Of A New Machine tracks being played live.
Fear Factory without Burton Bell and Dino Cazares is like Alice In Chains without Layne Staley and Jerry Cantrell. Or Septultura without the Cavaleras. Oh wait…
Wow, FEAR FACTORY! One of the most innovative and genre-defying bands ever! Not…
While Archetype is a great album (ironically, the one without Dino), nothing else Fear Factory has produced has even been mediocre. I actually pity Hoglan and Stroud for associating themselves with this. The original FF members should just realize that they don’t matter, and that their music never mattered. Also, Arkaea won’t matter, AotW didn’t matter, and Divine Heresy didn’t matter.
This is almost (but not quite) as bad as the whole Stratovarious crap going on. Ironically, Stratovarius is also a horribly generic band…
The Force Fear Factory? Fear Factory of Fire?
Fear Factory Force Four
WHICH ONE’S TITO?
Demanufacture was the only album that they made that I remotely care about.
this sucks, cuz fear factory was really cool and I never got to see them…now if I do, all the bullshit surrounding the ”reunion” will kinda ruin it. just like if sepultura rejoined or somethin..
i laughed when he called Dino “the big guy”
Divine Heresy> Fear Factory
Just throwin’ this out there, but I saw Tommy Vext play with Snot, and that fucker can really put on a show. He very well might be a douche, but he can rock. Just sayin’.
Snot stopped being a band in 1998.
I got The solution! why dont’t they play together? even woldbers!! I think that this bullshit happens because Herrera and Woldbers got Arkaea! They’ll going to be busy touring the album so they rejected to play fear factory again.. so, Bell and Cazares Don’t give a fuck and they’ll make the new Fear Factory album… They won’t wait for them to finish compromises with Arkaea!
The only reason they made Arkaea was because Christian and Raymond were sick of waiting for
Burton to finish with his ASOW garbage… And Now when the Arkaea album is ready to drop..
Burton decides he is ready and because Cristian and Raymond are busy he kicks em out!
Thats the real story..
Christian on numerous occasions has Said he has constantly been writing fear factory songs..but was Waiting for Burton to lay dowen some vocals.. On their myspace (which christian updates) he at certain stages has put up ” New FF album late 07″, “New FF album 08″ and “New FF album 09″
This whole mess is Burtons fault.
Thats right! I totally forgot the Burton’s project..
Burton/Dino should just change their name to Beer Factory – lord knows it’d make ‘em more popular, which is what they seem to want.
If this was Facebook, I would have just clicked “like”.
Fear Factory – greatest benefactors of the mire that was US metal in the nineties?
Well they stretched that man Vs machine concept past the point of reason that;s for sure.
One word: Gorgoroth. Someone needs to start a FF parody band called “Beer Factory.”
Use to be awesome band.. but this band drama really IS getting annoying
I read in an interview that Dino had rights to Fear Factory, and that the new Fear Factory had to continue to pay Dino money since the band was a corporation and he was part owner. Makes me wish I was an entertainment lawyer…they both have a claim to the corporate entity.
It would be nice if Fear Factory made good music again. I am having 90s nostalgia these days. Maybe it is because we again have a Democratic President? Who knows? As long as they sing songs about iphones or becoming iphones or something technowacky.
Fear Factory i’ts a fucking mess right now… how the fuck i’ts supposed to sound the new album?? I’ts going to be the Bringer’s of the plague B side?? otherwise the new Arkaea album was supposed to be the new Fear Factory album!! This is some real crazy shit!! Sorry for the bad english.. I’m From Venezuela…
i think dino and burt got together and said….”lets go old skool on these fuckers and make some brutal shit”.
and they both picked a drummer they new would kill.
because bassist is irrelevant…
oh wait he has to do that bit on edgcrusher…bung bung BUNG BUNG….
anyways i have a good feeling about this.
arkea is not 4 me, its emo threat signal type crap.
hopefully my gut is right
Just call it Phear Phactory and phuck off already.
So does anyone know who the fuck is in the ‘Fear Factory’ billed to be playing the Sonisphere and Bloodstock festivals this summer?
I gather it’s the new project. Hmmmmmm.
That is funny and sad at the same time.
im glad, stop tarnishing the once prestigious name, just get back together and make a real fear factory album
I say whatever band can bring Andrew Shives back as a bass player gets to keep the Fear Factory name.
YOU ARE ALL GAY
Oh shit, I bet in 2 years Christian and Dino are gonna go ego clash on each other again e tcha ran: 3 FF’s lol Is it just me, or is it so obvious why digitmortal was the beggining of crap? thank you stup people, you always make me feel warm inside.
Burton was delaying the new FF album because the last one was terrible. So, Christian and Raymond took their shitty new “Fear Factory” songs and did a whole new shitty band. Dino and Burt want to do a real Fear Factory album and they got people that can do it.
Dino FF > post Dino FF
They need to reunite and kick out Burton.
Andrew W.K. needs to be the new singer.