FEAR VS. FACTORY, ROUNDS 3 & 4
Wednesday, June 24th, 2009 at 11:41am by Axl Rosenberg
“Will someone please tell Dino that his lunch has arrived?”
Holy shit. This is officially my favorite feud of the year.
So. To begin: I’m tired of constantly “summing up” the story thus far, so if for some reason you haven’t been following this whole Fear Factory debacle, you can catch up by reading this and this.
Now. A few days ago, Dino Cazares gave an interview to PyroMusic.net. I guess the interview was supposed to be about the new Divine Heresy album, but, c’mon, no one cares about the new Divine Heresy album (and you’ll all care even less when you hear it). So naturally, the topic turns to Fear Factory.
And Dino does two really scummy things:
- He implies that the ex-members of Fear Factory suing is taking the low road. “If you want to hear Archetype, just listen to the early Fear Factory records,” he says. “That’s pretty much… they’re pretty much a carbon copy. The riffs are pretty much a carbon copy… I could actually sue Christian for stealing my riffs, but I was like, ‘no, I’ll take the high road, I’m very happy with Divine Heresy.’” Obviously this statement is designed to create a contrast between Dino and his former band maters. But if those dudes have a legal claim to the band name, then wouldn’t a law suit just be, y’know, fair? Standing up for yourself and what’s owed to you isn’t classy? Not as classy as continuing to trash them, I guess. Dino continues: “I believe Raymond and Christian, I believe it’s more money-driven, because it’s been since they’ve been in the band… they’ve been more money-driven, they’ve been more money hungry kind of guys and first and foremost for me it’s more about the music, it’s not really about the money, it’s about playing the music that you love and playing with people that you like.” Yep. That’s the high road for you.
- He ostensibly places all the blame for any drama on Burton C. Bell. “Burton approached me” about the reunion, he says – and keeps saying throughout the rest of the interview. To that end, he claims not be able to comment on that whole pesky lawsuit thing. “Burt’s going to be releasing a proper statement that’s going to explain all of it. And I really can’t give any comment until… ’cause Burt wants to be the one to tell everybody… I haven’t been in the band for like eight years. Burton approached me on it, so I’m waiting for him to give an explanation because he deserves to give it because he’s been in the band ever since.” So look at Dino, throwing his hands up in the air – “Hey, it was all Burt’s idea, I was just sitting here eating babies!!!” What a crock. (And on a side note: it was at this point that it occurred to me that if Dino had sued Fear Factory for “stealing” his riffs, then he would have been suing good ol’ Burt, too. Oh well.)
So after I read this interview, I was just dying to see Bell’s statement. It was gonna be so juicy, right?
Wrong. Here it is:
“These particular [tour] dates are being postponed in order that we, as Fear Factory, may finalize the writing and recording of our new music. We are aware that this album will be a very important recording for each of us in Fear Factory. That this album has to be sonically incredible for each and every one of you who are sincerely interested in listening to this latest creation.
“In order for Fear Factory to create the album of our career, we must focus and work diligently to engineer our rhythms of mechanical death. We feel that rushing to release this recording will not be beneficial to the craft of our manufacturing.
“In this parting statement, please understand that postponing these dates is not for any other reason than to create the album that Fear Factory fans are anxious to hear.”
First of all, gotta love the constant reassurance that this non-Fear Factory is Fear Factory: “We, as Fear Factory,” “for each of us in Fear Factory,” etc. Subtle.
Second of all, what a fantastic non-denial denial of the merits of Wolbers and Herrera’s lawsuit: “Postponing these dates is not for any other reason than to create the album.” But why the statement not specifically address the accusations if not because a lawyer said “Don’t say anything too definite right now, all our statements have to hold up in court?” This is basically the equivalent of the band taking the fifth.
Look. Maybe Burt and Dino are telling the truth. Maybe Ray and Christian are just money hungry cock suckers. Maybe the tour was canceled so they could go off and make a record.
And maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.
-AR
[Thanks to David Hulsey and bear wizard for the tips!]
u think maybe Burt heard the stuff they Wrote( Now the new Arkaea) and said… This blows, i Don’t wanna make a record with you 2 again???…
no surprise if burt heard the new arkaea because III heard it… and i was so disappointed… it’s garbage
The only thing they did that I really enjoyed was their cover of Cars.
Ick!
im listening to the original now that you said that
SHUT UP ‘JIMMY”!!!!!
you’re an idiot if that’s the only thing you enjoyed… open your ears fool
Can the lawyers just shut down the whole “Fear Factory” thing? They’ll never all be together again, so just leave it as it was and think of a new damn name!
They could just change the name.
Phobia Manufacturers
Scare Plant
Horror Assembly
Trepidation Industries
Apprehension Mill
Nice!
I like Horror Assembly
All five of those are better names than Fear Factory. Bravo sir.
apprehension mill all the way
Terror Vagina
Cold-feet Coop?
And the best thing about these names? You can change them around!
Apprehension Manufacturers
Scare Assembly
Trepidation Plant
Horror Mill
Phobia Industries
And that’s just the beginning! It’s like the Mr. Potato Head of metal names!
Apprehension Mill. lol.
consternation forge
anxiety foundry
Oooooo, Horror Mill. That’s even better. Nice. Sounds like a terrible, awful unwatchable horror B-movie (lookin’ at you, Rob Zombie…).
ahahahahah fuckin awesome,
how about ummm,
Possibly Dangerous Depot
I’m actually looking forward to Dino Factory a tad more than Burton Factory simply because of the presence of Gene Hoglan.
You seem to have a rather poor grasp of the situation.
Yeah I know what the situation is, I’m just highly indifferent to band drama.
As if they finally get the name then they make a record and it sells a whole….50,000 copies! Holy fuck now wasn’t that worth it.
That picture and caption is hilarious
Win
Arkaea will be better than this “fear Factory” simply because Jon Howard from Threat Signal kicks ass.
He sure kicks ass at being an inferior version of Chester Bennington, that’s about it though.
Please, Jon’s able to scream a lot better than Chester and not come across as whiny. His singing may not be the greatest but his growls are really good.
Either way i’d rather hear Arkaea than any version of Fear Factory.
jon’s garbage… you’re dumb… i listened to arkaea and it’s now in my trash can
‘could actually sue Christian for stealing my riffs’.
….what riffs? The only thing I hear on Demanufacture are mallcore-ish power chords, sounds more like Nu-metal with double bass.
Wow.
I think you have your CDs in the wrong boxes.
Dino’s a cock, but damn… You’re a fucking idiot.
shouldn’t the estate of the guy from pantera sue dino for ripping off his riffs wholesale for demanufacture?
The “Fear” these knobs produce is on sale at KMart in the BlueLight section.
I met Dino at a concert a while back, and he seemed like a dick. At the time, I chalked it up to him possibly just having a bad day or something. But after reading this, I feel that all of the insults flung in his direction are warranted. I guess it’s just his natural disposition to be conceited.
No, you’re instincts were correct. I met him once too, along w/Rick Rubin, Max Cavalera & SOAD. All were super, super nice and grateful, etc, except Dino, who was a complete dickbag. Also, enormous.
Nah, i met him once too. Dude’s just a hard-on.
If I looked like him I’d be mad at the world, too. Looks like I’m not taking the high road today.
yeah, he’s like 4′11″ and 400 pounds. how he hasn’t had a heart attack yet is a miracle…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I bet you, Gene and Byron are going to quit this band real real soon. Then they will probably let the guys from Faggot X join this band soon.
With Gene, Byron and Dino….They Should Call themselves FAT Factory!! haha
LMAO @ Faggot X, that shit has me laughing while I type this. But nah Dino is a fat cocksucker, BCB can’t sing & its sad that Gene & Byron are in anyway involved. Lmao Faggot X lol lol lol.
Fetal Factory…. the real announcement is yet to come, when Dino announces he’s pregnant with Burton’s baby and the new album will be a collection of acoustic ballads! Stay tuned for more homoerotic shit and musical blasphemy, when the wedding is held at your local DinoTown on the back of a Stegosaurus! Open invitation as long as you bring burritos for the bride!
HAHAHAHAHA ….MAN THAT IS THE FUCKING TRUTH
I hereby make this prediction: if a new Fear Factory record ever sees the light of day, it won’t get any higher than a 7/10 on any reputable (hah!) review site. SLIGHTLY above average, maybe, and people would only give it more points because Gene Hoglan is on it.
tey should rename themselves “cheap cashgrab and the shitty music band”
“cheap cashgrab and the shitty music band” Factory
Rename to Fat Factory…..most overweight band ever ahah…….But all good musicians
I am confused which fear factory is recording? hahahahaahahah
WHO CARES
Other stuff Dino has said about Fear Factory is that if Fear Factory never re-formed, he wouldn’t care. But he obviously does? Why go to such ridiculous lengths to resurrect it…in the worst way possible?
what a pathetic self rightious cock. dino says he could sue Christian for “stealing his riffs”… what a bunch of horse shit. a particular style is a particular style. he thinks hes soooo renound for his playing. I like it, but he did NOT create the “chug along with the drums” guitar style. i guarentee it.
This is not a child it’s a SANDWICH!
(psychostick reference)
Oh man, I really want someone to start a band called Scare Plant now.
psychostick has nothing on”fat factory” if they decided they want to write songs about food
this whole mess is just plain confusing. FF are my all time favourite band, sure Transgression sucked balls, and Digimortal was fairly meh as well but their other albums were pretty good and they really did invent the whole cyber-metal thing imo. And those catchy chorus hooks mixed with one of the best metal growls going around still make my spine tingle when I hear the likes of scumgreif, descent, ressurection, archetype.. etc etc etc..
BUT…
Now what the hell am I supposed to think. Im trying REALLY hard to like Arkaea but unless im missing something this new Threat Signal signer sounds more like the dude from Linkin Park and that is enough to ruin any good riff in my opinion. From what I hear tho, there are some decent songs in there and Raymond is playing like a madman that seemed to be spawned during Arkaea and going more and more ballistic ever since (lets just forget transgression exists).
If I had to take sides, i’d say Christian is one of the most talented musos in the mixup, but probably the least important to the Fear Factory sound. To me the order of must have’s are as follows…
Burton (no fucking way i EVER wanna hear fear factory with some other cocksucker on vocals)
Raymond (i just don’t think a drummer like Hoglan will be able to play below himself enough to keep the disco stu beats alive and simple, and that my friend is how fear factory managed to punch above the laff masses of death metal around the time of SOANM. Combining the keyboards with Raymond brought it into cyber zone
Guitarist (really think either dino or christian could do this job, probably prefer Christian just because theres a chance the band wont break up again 6 months down the track)
Bass player (bah, couldnt care if they sequenced it via MIDI tbh)
Lets just pray whatever happens, its not a shit album.. Let the band rest in peace if you cant do it properly.