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	<title>Comments on: NEW OTEP MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE OLD OTEP MUSIC</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-296624</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe, you all make me laugh. If your complaint is about how Otep uses her lyrics to deliver meaningful messages in an understandable manner (pretty good vocals and not gurgling growls of death), then go listen to your fucking Katie Perry or to those attempts of music you call metal that sound as if the singer was vomiting violently throughout the whole song, while having a seizure.

Oh, and the main topic of this whole discussion was how Otep sounds pretty much the same as it did before, which is true sadly, not about how many insults can you cram in one sentence followed by &quot;Otep&quot;, or how many ways you can diminish someone who is pro freedom and equality, and a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe, you all make me laugh. If your complaint is about how Otep uses her lyrics to deliver meaningful messages in an understandable manner (pretty good vocals and not gurgling growls of death), then go listen to your fucking Katie Perry or to those attempts of music you call metal that sound as if the singer was vomiting violently throughout the whole song, while having a seizure.</p>
<p>Oh, and the main topic of this whole discussion was how Otep sounds pretty much the same as it did before, which is true sadly, not about how many insults can you cram in one sentence followed by &#8220;Otep&#8221;, or how many ways you can diminish someone who is pro freedom and equality, and a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-270646</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take is Otep is an average band with an outstanding vocalist. I don&#039;t really care about someone&#039;s political views, as long as they are original and interesting. What does it matter if the song is about sex or burning the White House down. After all, that&#039;s what art is really about...it&#039;s not what it&#039;s about, it&#039;s about how it&#039;s about it, to paraphrase Roger Ebert.

Some of the little vocal quirks and change ups she does are what elevates a song like Blood Pigs from the kind of standard paint by numbers thing it would have been with an average singer. And Warhead is one of the most vicious, agressive songs I&#039;ve ever heard. It makes me want to tear some shit up, and I&#039;m a centrist...but hey, that&#039;s good if someone can get you feeling something outside of yourself.

Some things off The Ascension are good, but as a whole most of their music just needs to step it up a notch if it seriously wants to compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take is Otep is an average band with an outstanding vocalist. I don&#8217;t really care about someone&#8217;s political views, as long as they are original and interesting. What does it matter if the song is about sex or burning the White House down. After all, that&#8217;s what art is really about&#8230;it&#8217;s not what it&#8217;s about, it&#8217;s about how it&#8217;s about it, to paraphrase Roger Ebert.</p>
<p>Some of the little vocal quirks and change ups she does are what elevates a song like Blood Pigs from the kind of standard paint by numbers thing it would have been with an average singer. And Warhead is one of the most vicious, agressive songs I&#8217;ve ever heard. It makes me want to tear some shit up, and I&#8217;m a centrist&#8230;but hey, that&#8217;s good if someone can get you feeling something outside of yourself.</p>
<p>Some things off The Ascension are good, but as a whole most of their music just needs to step it up a notch if it seriously wants to compete.</p>
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		<title>By: Jigantor</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-267379</link>
		<dc:creator>Jigantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait scratch that as long as they can back it up with double peddle drums and incredible fucking guitar with a singer that can do death growls (which btw is the easiest type of screams)  we have a band thats &quot;Metal&quot; .... like daath and sons of osiris and nile and origin.... yeah that shit dominates.... 
the only thing that separates typical rock from metal (in my view) is the abuse that you put your instruments through and amount of stomach you put into your voice ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait scratch that as long as they can back it up with double peddle drums and incredible fucking guitar with a singer that can do death growls (which btw is the easiest type of screams)  we have a band thats &#8220;Metal&#8221; &#8230;. like daath and sons of osiris and nile and origin&#8230;. yeah that shit dominates&#8230;.<br />
the only thing that separates typical rock from metal (in my view) is the abuse that you put your instruments through and amount of stomach you put into your voice &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jigantor</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-267377</link>
		<dc:creator>Jigantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so whats some one suppose to write about if they shouldnt write about their issues or politics ....... Lets all sing about Darwins theory of evolution kids!!!???! /sarcasmoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so whats some one suppose to write about if they shouldnt write about their issues or politics &#8230;&#8230;. Lets all sing about Darwins theory of evolution kids!!!???! /sarcasmoff</p>
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		<title>By: Jigantor</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-267375</link>
		<dc:creator>Jigantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You took the word right outta my mouth M</description>
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		<title>By: Dushaun Mandic</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-266281</link>
		<dc:creator>Dushaun Mandic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I mention... She likes fish tacos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I mention&#8230; She likes fish tacos?</p>
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		<title>By: Dushaun Mandic</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-266280</link>
		<dc:creator>Dushaun Mandic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otep... I&#039;m sorry Ot3p is a fat lesbo bitch who cries about her problems too much.... and she&#039;s also a political retard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otep&#8230; I&#8217;m sorry Ot3p is a fat lesbo bitch who cries about her problems too much&#8230;. and she&#8217;s also a political retard.</p>
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		<title>By: CYN1C</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-266183</link>
		<dc:creator>CYN1C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some entries on &quot;The List&quot; gave 450+ comments, so not even the suckiness of OTEP can compare to that debacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some entries on &#8220;The List&#8221; gave 450+ comments, so not even the suckiness of OTEP can compare to that debacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Reaper-X</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-266101</link>
		<dc:creator>Reaper-X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the same bitch that thought people didn&#039;t like her band because they were sexist.

No, people don&#039;t like Otep because she sucks ass. There are plenty of female fronted bands that people like, because they don&#039;t suck ass like Otep does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same bitch that thought people didn&#8217;t like her band because they were sexist.</p>
<p>No, people don&#8217;t like Otep because she sucks ass. There are plenty of female fronted bands that people like, because they don&#8217;t suck ass like Otep does.</p>
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		<title>By: DemonicLemming</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265846</link>
		<dc:creator>DemonicLemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stay away from music that uses politics for one reason - music is for entertainment.  That&#039;s it.  I don&#039;t really give a good goddamn what the singer or songwriter thinks of a specific political issue, and I don&#039;t want to hear it when I&#039;m trying to enjoy myself while listening to music.  Not to mention, most politics in music is nothing more than a gimmick - drop some politics into a song, take the trendy liberal stance on it, and you&#039;re guaranteed music sales.

Music and politics shouldn&#039;t go hand in hand any more than politics in movies.  I&#039;m not denying it happens and is happening, I&#039;m simply saying they shouldn&#039;t mix.  People tend to take movie stars and singers very seriously when it comes to political issues - although I have no fucking clue why, as most of them are as ignorant as their fans about most issues, and simply parrot the popular thing to say - and when you have people voting a specific way because of some inane lyric in a song or some line in a movie, you&#039;re defeating the purpose of democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stay away from music that uses politics for one reason &#8211; music is for entertainment.  That&#8217;s it.  I don&#8217;t really give a good goddamn what the singer or songwriter thinks of a specific political issue, and I don&#8217;t want to hear it when I&#8217;m trying to enjoy myself while listening to music.  Not to mention, most politics in music is nothing more than a gimmick &#8211; drop some politics into a song, take the trendy liberal stance on it, and you&#8217;re guaranteed music sales.</p>
<p>Music and politics shouldn&#8217;t go hand in hand any more than politics in movies.  I&#8217;m not denying it happens and is happening, I&#8217;m simply saying they shouldn&#8217;t mix.  People tend to take movie stars and singers very seriously when it comes to political issues &#8211; although I have no fucking clue why, as most of them are as ignorant as their fans about most issues, and simply parrot the popular thing to say &#8211; and when you have people voting a specific way because of some inane lyric in a song or some line in a movie, you&#8217;re defeating the purpose of democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: DemonicLemming</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265845</link>
		<dc:creator>DemonicLemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of northern California is pretty conservative, so it doesn&#039;t surprise me too much, although I personally thought it would have passed.  Being a libertarian and a pagan, I really don&#039;t care what other people do, as long as it doesn&#039;t affect me or create a morally corrupt society - and I see the massive sex-related incidents with kids in middle school these days as a much bigger moral problem than two dudes who decide to get married.  As volatile as normal marriages are today, one can&#039;t use the &quot;gay marriages are less stable&quot; argument, either.  In 20 years, the &quot;gay revolution&quot; will be seen in the same light as we see the women&#039;s civil rights movement, and the black&#039;s civil rights movement (although I daresay the founders and leaders of both of those movements would be absolutely disgusted at what the people they represent today have done to equal rights and freedom for all - I don&#039;t think Susan B. Anthony had 13 year old girls fucking in mind when she was pioneering her cause).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of northern California is pretty conservative, so it doesn&#8217;t surprise me too much, although I personally thought it would have passed.  Being a libertarian and a pagan, I really don&#8217;t care what other people do, as long as it doesn&#8217;t affect me or create a morally corrupt society &#8211; and I see the massive sex-related incidents with kids in middle school these days as a much bigger moral problem than two dudes who decide to get married.  As volatile as normal marriages are today, one can&#8217;t use the &#8220;gay marriages are less stable&#8221; argument, either.  In 20 years, the &#8220;gay revolution&#8221; will be seen in the same light as we see the women&#8217;s civil rights movement, and the black&#8217;s civil rights movement (although I daresay the founders and leaders of both of those movements would be absolutely disgusted at what the people they represent today have done to equal rights and freedom for all &#8211; I don&#8217;t think Susan B. Anthony had 13 year old girls fucking in mind when she was pioneering her cause).</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Pulatie</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265842</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Pulatie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to be the first to point out that a story about OTEP has spawned a 100+ comment argument about politics, gay marriage, and as always, the definition of &quot;metal&quot;.  We should go for the record on MS (side note:  Can anyone tell me what that would be?  The most comments on one story, that is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to be the first to point out that a story about OTEP has spawned a 100+ comment argument about politics, gay marriage, and as always, the definition of &#8220;metal&#8221;.  We should go for the record on MS (side note:  Can anyone tell me what that would be?  The most comments on one story, that is).</p>
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		<title>By: DemonicLemming</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265836</link>
		<dc:creator>DemonicLemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really doesn&#039;t matter what you listen to, bub.  My statement stands - without google and wikipedia, I doubt you&#039;d have a clue who 75% of the bands on that list were.  Oh, and I&#039;ve got plenty of normal metal in my collection, but I guess being a halfwit, you have to resort to the easiest insult - &quot;loL ur GAY!1;&#039;1!&quot;!  Let me know when I&#039;m supposed to feel insulted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really doesn&#8217;t matter what you listen to, bub.  My statement stands &#8211; without google and wikipedia, I doubt you&#8217;d have a clue who 75% of the bands on that list were.  Oh, and I&#8217;ve got plenty of normal metal in my collection, but I guess being a halfwit, you have to resort to the easiest insult &#8211; &#8220;loL ur GAY!1;&#8217;1!&#8221;!  Let me know when I&#8217;m supposed to feel insulted.</p>
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		<title>By: cougar party</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265774</link>
		<dc:creator>cougar party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect your opinion, but I think that the Republicans would be getting a lot more votes if they threw out all this socially conservative &quot;Holier than thou&quot;  soapboxing on marriage and societal norms.  I believe in more of a &quot;live and let live&quot; philosophy.  I don&#039;t feel threatened by gay marriage and I don&#039;t feel it will affect my life in any significant way; so let the gays do it.

I do agree with you about putting it to a vote.  I was suprised when California turned it down, but that what the people wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect your opinion, but I think that the Republicans would be getting a lot more votes if they threw out all this socially conservative &#8220;Holier than thou&#8221;  soapboxing on marriage and societal norms.  I believe in more of a &#8220;live and let live&#8221; philosophy.  I don&#8217;t feel threatened by gay marriage and I don&#8217;t feel it will affect my life in any significant way; so let the gays do it.</p>
<p>I do agree with you about putting it to a vote.  I was suprised when California turned it down, but that what the people wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265726</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*journalist*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*journalist*</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265725</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who think music and politics go together are the same people who think Jon Stewart is a journalsit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who think music and politics go together are the same people who think Jon Stewart is a journalsit.</p>
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		<title>By: oden</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265683</link>
		<dc:creator>oden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I respect your well-spoken opinion, for me, separation of church and state has nothing to do with the discussion.  IMO, this would be a huge leap towards us becoming a culture that accepts and even encourages instant gratification and hedonistic lifestyles, regardless of the negative effects.  See Europe to get a sense of how the marriage rate has declined and the increase of children born out of wedlock since they legalized same sex marriage.  Now, I do not have a problem with civil unions for purposes of insurance and taxes, etc... but that is a completely different discussion.

Bottom line, put it to a vote.  The most liberal state in the union, California, already voted and the citizens said no.  Majority rule doesn&#039;t always mean it&#039;s right (see nazis) but in this situation I say let the people decide.  If our country is fucked enough to let it happen then we deserve the unintended consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I respect your well-spoken opinion, for me, separation of church and state has nothing to do with the discussion.  IMO, this would be a huge leap towards us becoming a culture that accepts and even encourages instant gratification and hedonistic lifestyles, regardless of the negative effects.  See Europe to get a sense of how the marriage rate has declined and the increase of children born out of wedlock since they legalized same sex marriage.  Now, I do not have a problem with civil unions for purposes of insurance and taxes, etc&#8230; but that is a completely different discussion.</p>
<p>Bottom line, put it to a vote.  The most liberal state in the union, California, already voted and the citizens said no.  Majority rule doesn&#8217;t always mean it&#8217;s right (see nazis) but in this situation I say let the people decide.  If our country is fucked enough to let it happen then we deserve the unintended consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: oden</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265667</link>
		<dc:creator>oden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, that was funny... and he only cries when he was on that script. but still good stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, that was funny&#8230; and he only cries when he was on that script. but still good stuff</p>
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		<title>By: shit sandwich</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/23/new-otep-music-sounds-like-old-otep-music/#comment-265598</link>
		<dc:creator>shit sandwich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forgot Jucifer. Heavy as shit brah.</description>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its when a band [like otep] intentionally turns themself into this &quot;we stand for THIS&quot; type of band. always, every fuckin song has to be about this or that, etc. shit, Ive listened to bands like napalm death,ratm, etc for years, but after a while ALL politicalized lyrics sound like endless whining, kinda just like political arguments. 

yall might remember during the bush [the 2nd ]years that all bands jumped on the political band wagon. disturbed, korn, soad, they all did it. politics is a selling point, just like pentagrams and scary inverted crosses on a dimmu borgir cd or half naked chicks on a t pain cd.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its when a band [like otep] intentionally turns themself into this &#8220;we stand for THIS&#8221; type of band. always, every fuckin song has to be about this or that, etc. shit, Ive listened to bands like napalm death,ratm, etc for years, but after a while ALL politicalized lyrics sound like endless whining, kinda just like political arguments. </p>
<p>yall might remember during the bush [the 2nd ]years that all bands jumped on the political band wagon. disturbed, korn, soad, they all did it. politics is a selling point, just like pentagrams and scary inverted crosses on a dimmu borgir cd or half naked chicks on a t pain cd&#8230;..</p>
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