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CHUCK MOSLEY: STILL ON DRUGS

 Wednesday, August 12th, 2009 at 1:30pm by

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Well, I don’t know that the original Faith No More vocalist is back on smack, but I can’t think of any other way to explain this statement from a recent Rolling Stone interview:

“I thought [firing guitarist Jim Martin] was as big if not bigger a mistake than getting rid of me — just because he had a lot of pull with the big part of their crowd at the time. And he was ‘the personality,’ y’know? There was something people could identify to. After Jim, they were going through a string of different guitar players, and I couldn’t name one of them. That Jagger/Richards, Plant/Page thing was gone.”

Alright, I love Jim Martin as much as the next guy, but come on, dude. Let’s look at some facts:

  • Faith No More made two great albums, King for a Day… and Album of the Year, after Martin was fired from the band.
  • Never in the history of the world has anyone associated Martin with a Jagger/Richards or Plant/Page-style partnership. Who would even be the Jagger or Plant in that equation? Martin never struck me as being particularly close with Mike Patton.
  • If no one knows the names of the guitarists who played with FNM in-between Jim Martin and Jon Hudson, that’s because they didn’t stick around for very long (And their names were Trey Spruance and Dean Menta, by the way. Spruance was also a member of Mr. Bungle.). Everyone seems to know who Jon Hudson is.
  • If Jim Martin was “the personality,” then Faith No More would have been the most boring band on the planet. Wearing multiple pairs of sunglasses while remaining ever-stationary on stage is not a good way to display “personality.” In fact, I’d wager that 99.9% of all FNM fans would argue that Patton was the “personality” in the band.
  • The reunion tour has been a huge success. No one seems to care that Martin isn’t in the band anymore.
  • And, oh yeah, firing Chuck Mosley wasn’t a mistake, either. Ever hear anyone say “Well, I like ‘Epic,’ but I really wish the vocals sounded like the lead singer had a terrible cold?” No. No you haven’t. That’s because Patton > Mosley. This is not debatable. The Mosley years were good, but the Patton years are the definitive works of FNM. Period.

In other news, Mosley claims that the band invited him to do a duet with Patton for at least one reunion show, but he couldn’t make it ’cause “my passport expired and I couldn’t get it in time.”

Chuck Mosley has a new solo album coming out. I don’t care, though, and neither do you. Maybe if it had some of Jim Martin’s personality…

-AR

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  • Shinaain

    Precisely.

  • MadSkins

    Ugh. Poor Chuck. We Care A Lot Chuck. Really.

  • TommyLindbergsen

    “my passport expired and I couldn’t get it in time.”

    In other words….” I spent all my money on crack and heroin and I can’t find my car.”

  • stu1

    They can expedite passports in a matter of days for a fee.

  • http://theofficialmetalshowmetalblog.blogspot.com Randy

    I would argue that Jim Martin did have personality in the sort of way that Ace Frehley had personality. It wasn’t really about them moving around the stage and neither are the greatest musicians, but they both play more feel and emotion than all the shredders out there. I don’t think that the other guitar players captured that feel, even if they are better than Martin.

    It’s sort of like Bruce Kulick, Vinnie Vincent or Tommy Thayer. All are probably better guitar players skill wise than Ace, but none could compare in many fan’s eyes to the magic of Ace.

    Also I think a lot of people connect Jim Martin with “The Real Thing”, which is the band’s greatest achievement, even though it was equally written by the other members as much as Martin.

    That being said, last thing I heard was Martin was a pumpkin farmer and now sports a shaved head, so he definitely wouldn’t have the “image” fans remember and people would surely bitch about that as well.

    • chris liglet

      i agree with u on that one..jim martin wasnt the best..and wasnt the most energetic personn..defently not the star of the band..but..he s the one most people will remember..with his stupid ass glases and big pooffy hair!.and flyin V guitar

    • Trux

      I think Bruce Kulick was the greatest guitar player of all four…… and I consider myself a great, and I mean, a great kiss fan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Livingston/25310975 Robert Livingston

    “Anne, Anne, Anne, what am I supposed to do, it’s been bugging them since the
    day that I was born.”

  • http://www.blacklodges.com steven

    all I am saying is that martin should do an album with kim from soundgarden.
    dont be bitter, be better.

  • TurdFerguson

    I’m sure Trey Spruance couldn’t grow an award winning pumpkin if his life depended on it, so there’s that.

  • Sammy

    I’m guessing a man on the street interview – hell, a man at a rock concert interview – would yield about .0005% of respondents knowing who Mosley is. So a Page/Plant or Jagger/Richards comparison would like me saying, “I post lots of comments on Metalsucks, DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM??”

    • Shinaain

      LMAO! *snixkers*

    • Jimmy

      I bet Ziltoid uses that line to get dates.

  • dlux

    mike patton was/is THE personality of FNM. when all 5 dudes get together it’s something magical. but even on his own mike patton rules. a true artist.

  • http://infinitybasement.wordpress.com billybob

    In other news, Faith No More still hasn’t announced a North American Tour. (*cough* Toronto *cough*)

    … And God wept.

  • Motoghost

    Thank you so much! He needs to be shut up!

  • John

    How can anyone possibly believe that they, as a vocalist, are better than mike patton. That is retarded.

    • http://myspace.com/biosyn teaches_of_peaches

      Except he never said that.

  • blah

    “Faith No More made two great albums, King for a Day… and Album of the Year, after Martin was fired from the band.”

    and he also had little to do with their best album (angel dust)

    • Lee

      Agreed, Angel Dust is far and away my favorite of FNM.

    • Jimmy

      iirc, he only wrote one song and didnt show up to the studio much. It’s not like the guitar was essential to the sound anyway. It was all in the bass and keys combo.

  • greg

    Let’s just get to the point

    Patton made FNM an amazing group and owns Mosley

    Jim Martin didn’t do shit on their best album Angel Dust, only the funk/rock stuff like on The Real Thing (which is a good album also). He was also a prick to everyone in the band

    Trey & Jon did great on the last two albums

    Chuck was just a boring singer and FNM would have gone nowhere if he was still in the band
    And! I think Chuck just wants attention for his new solo album by saying all that shit about doing a “duet” at one of the reunion shows

  • Anna

    What does this have to do with Chuck’s new record? Have you listened to his new material?

  • Alex

    You gotta be kidding me, just heard Mosley’s new cut The Enabler on Sirius/XM and I was blown fucking away. Him and Jonathan Davis from Korn are incrdible together. Found his site, laid down the cash and bought the album immediately.

    • TommyLindbergsen

      JOHNATHAN DAVIS??
      You’re kidding, right?

  • jason

    Fuck you, I’ll skate to the beach….

    • mrbinky

      That was the most meaningful thing Chuck ever wrote.

      • Chris W

        I agree!!!

  • John Galt

    “Faith No More made two great albums”
    The Real Thing, and Angel Dust. The others are forgettable to downright sellout. Honestly, if you think there’s anything AT ALL to Album of the Year, you missed the point of Faith no More’s greatness, and wanted them to be another bland hard rock/grunge/alternative band.

    No Jim Martin = No Faith No More. Fuck their “reuinion”(we need the money) tour.

    • http://chroniclesofchaos.com Daniel Cairns

      Are you fucking mental? King for a Day and Album of the year are both better than The Real Thing.
      Album of the Year a bland hard rock album? You have heard it right? Some of it’s just as mental and genre spanning as Angel Dust.

      And Trey Spruance is a million times better than Jim Martin. Could Jim Martin play any of the Mr Bungle stuff you reckon?

      Chuck Mosley needs to go away and farm some pumpkins. Eejit.

    • Jimmy

      Jim didnt do jack shit on Angel Dust. He only wrote one song and Billy Gould recorded most of the guitar.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Livingston/25310975 Robert Livingston

      Dude, you must be on crazy pills.

  • http://richarddawkins.net/ RICHARD DAWKINS

    I WAS IN FAITH NO MORE FOR A WHILE THERE BACK IN THE DAY BUT IT WAS INTERFERING WITH MY STUDIES SO I FUCKED IT OFF.

    • http://chroniclesofchaos.com Daniel Cairns

      God will forgive you…

      • http://richarddawkins.net/ RICHARD DAWKINS

        WILL I EVER FORGIVE MYSELF?

    • http://www.last.fm/user/markandrew78 alexwank

      hahaha… gold!
      we just need christopher hitchens or sam harris to start commenting around here….

      • mess stone

        maybe even alex jones, lewis black, or David Feldmen…. yeah… check it out b4 u judge :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

    i enjoy the real thing angel dust and album of the year but i think angel dust is their best IMO

  • dEV

    Jim Martin did have a certain mystique. Wearing multiple pairs of sunglasses while remaining ever-stationary on stage may not be a good way to display “personality,” but neither is wearing a top hat while remaining ever-stationary on stage.

    • Jimmy

      You just blew my mind.

    • Porkspam

      At least wearing the tophat gave up the courtesy of not seeing the growing fault line in the middle of the guitarists head

    • mess stone

      lol. r u fucking with me?

  • martinmania

    it wasn’t the glasses that made the personality – it was the heavy fucking hand!
    FNM post-martin isn’t even FNM.

  • joethecabdriver

    Bad analogies aside, FNM went into a decline after Jim Martin left. King For A Day wasn’t a bad album, but seemed like a watered down version of Angel Dust. Album Of The Year just plain sucked; boring and uninspired. I can’t remember a single song off that album.

    • Phillip

      Not even Stripsearch? C’mon, that’s classic FNM right there!

  • Frampler

    I’ve been lucky enough to see them on the reunion tour, and Patton still owns the stage. Jim Martin’s gimmick was wearing wacky sunglasses, being tall and having big hair. John Hudson might be much plainer in his appearance, but he can do everything Jim did on the guitar… and more.

    And King for a Day and Album of the Year fucking rule.

  • Brutalizer

    Fuck this site is garbage. Faith no more? Jesus fucking Christ. GET SOME REAL NEWS TO REPORT. Fuck.

  • michael

    It’s amazing how you guys take one thing Chuck said completely out of context and make such a big deal out of it. I was with Chuck when he did this interview. Read what he ACTUALLY said in the quote that started this ridiculous thread. He’s not talking about himself at all in this analogy at all.. He’s not saying he was “Plant” in this equation, he’s saying PATTON was! And it was an intentionally “over the top”, half joking analogy to begin with.

    Have you actually listened to his new record or would you rather just judge Chuck’s music based on 20 year old rumors instead of being open minded enough to give the new stuff a chance?

    AOL has the whole CD up and you can listen to it for free http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/#/5

    • Brutalizer

      If you listen to faith no more, you must be gay. That is all.

  • chuck mosley

    to mister AR, whomever UR; way to make a whole article based on a typical jurnalistic missquote, you silly rabbit. I forgive your ignorance on that level, and I won’t be addressing the things you said about the something that I didn’t say……silly man. However, my two,very mature daughters, whom, I love very much, read this stuff, and, so do their friends. So let me make this perfectly clear;…they know that I smoke weed, and drink beer, with an occasional shot of jack, here and there. They also know that that is the extent of it, so get your fucking facts straight before you go dragging my character through the mud of your confused little mind, and into the hearts and minds of my fans, my family, and my friends.You don’t know me, but if you did, I think you would like me. So, when I’m in your part of the planet, lets get together, so that you can make an educated opinion about who I really am, and what I trully represent……I represent my fans, because they are me, and, I am them. And, oh, by the way……I have alot more than you do, so…..nah nah nah!……I guess that’s why you hate me so much…..love, chuck.

    • chuck mosley

      PS Jim Martin rocks

      • Brutalizer

        Ps. Faith no more sucks and you suck. Go inject some bleach you junkie. The horrible 80′s retro garbage you try to pass off as music sickens me.

        • God

          Dear Brutalizer,

          uhhh.. Your mama!

          Love,

          God

  • elvin

    Pure Ownage. Well said.

    • Brutalizer

      Brutalizer thanks you.

      • Anna

        It’s so sad how you take the time to knock someone you don’t like, Love Chuck or hate him- its still an obsession and you my friend are obsessed with Chuck Mosley. The new album is great, have you even listened to it? Im going to go ahead and say – NO! That’s because your mind is closed.

        • Hell Yes

          Well said Anna! It must be sad to have no life to the point where someone would sit around and type immature and hateful comments all day.

          And you are right. Chuck’s new stuff kicks serious ass!

  • sYgnal

    Is this Mosley guy’s brain crooked?? Seriously?!

    Anyways,I liked Jim and was kinda disheartened when he was canned but FNM just kept getting better,so, the depression left kinda quickly

    Besides Angeldust being overly polished in the area of production, it doesn’t hold a candle to KFADFFAL. Don’t get me wrong…Angeldust is a great album and I love it,BUT, King for a Day… was brilliant and so much more raw & brutal as well as touching upon different genres.

    Take This Bottle is fucking brilliant and will remain timeless… ‘nough said!!

  • markus

    Wow, I’m actually kinda shocked and embarrassed for some of you people. I’ve been a FNM fan since 87′. Mike will always be in a league of his own, we know this – But Chuck deserves some respect. I know for a FACT that the band (Patton included) have a lot of respect for Chuck’s contributions to FNM. Actually there has NEVER been any issue between Mike and Chuck…….so why are you people trying to trash this guys character?
    Losers.

    This article is irresponsible and just plain BS.

    Jonathan Davis is a fucken hack though.

  • Chris W

    Every FNM show I have EVER seen has Chucks song in it, whether Patton is on vocals or not, those old songs are fun and part of my childhood, so suck it

  • markus

    And if you notice Mike always throws a tiny Chuck homage in those songs….especially in Mark Bowen & Chinese Arithmetic.

  • Chris W

    I met Chuck around 1993 and he was very nice and sober by the way

  • Brandon

    Jim Martin was a big factor in the sound of Faith No More in their early days. I’m pretty neutral in this because I like all their albums(yes that also includes the 2 that Chuck Mosley sang on too). To those of you that aren’t musicians it might not make too much sense but a guitar player is the backbone behind how a band sounds. Regardless of how many songs they may write. And come on here, we’re really only talking about “Angel Dust” here. Jim laid down alot in the writing department on the albums prior to that one. “Angel Dust” is an epic record because it was an epic struggle for them to make. If certain individuals would read some facts they would learn the big problem Jim had is that he felt they weren’t making a new record but just repeating themselves and not in a good way, according to him that is. And seeing as how he was a member of the band at the time, not any of us writing these comments, he’s very much entitled to his opinion cause he was there, we weren’t. Plain and simple. The band liked the heaviness he brought to their sound and that’s exactly what they wanted in the band, a metal head. While I did enjoy King For A Day and the Album of the Year CD’s there was a big lacking in the guitar playing department, most notably the lack of guitar solos which is really the only gripe I have about em. If anyone out there can prove me wrong on that and tell me which song these guitarists who played on “King For A Day” and “Album of the Year”, B-sides included, can match their skills up to the solo Jim laid down in “Cowboy Song” then please do tell me. Honestly I expected alot more out of Trey Spruance because his work on all the Mr.Bungle albums is phenomenal. And all that aside alot of people on here need to read Faith No More’s “The Real Story” and read the actual facts about what was happening with Jim and Chuck and the reasons behind their departures. A fact that gets pointed out is that all the band members were all pricks to one another, not just Chuck and Jim acting like assholes to the rest of em for no reason. Just that at some point in time a gang mentality comes up and it’s a bunch of guys against one person which can cause a good amount of tension from the person who is being singled out. It states in the book that none of the members got along famously well with each other in the first place. If that wasn’t the case at all to begin with then I really doubt the band would’ve broken up originally.