THE SECOND ROB ZOMBIE STORY IN AS MANY DAYS

Friday, August 14th, 2009 at 1:00pm by

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Even though I loathed Rob Zombie’s remake of Halloween and am 99% sure that Halloween II is going to suck just as bad, I did find this interview that the artist formerly known as Robert Bartleh Cummings* just did with Mr. Beaks at Ain’t It Cool News to be kind of interesting. Especially this part, where he talks about the use of music of his latest cinematic opus:

Beaks: One thing that made me happy was reading the soundtrack list. It’s pretty varied. “The Things We Do for Love” by 10cc wedged in there next to Bad Brains. Were these songs you knew you wanted to use, or did they occur to you further down the line.

Zombie: Some of them were songs I’d always wanted to use. Having songs in advance in your mind helps a lot. Like on THE DEVIL’S REJECTS, it helped a lot. It was nice to be able to find the spirt of the movie – and the spirit of REJECTS became The Allman Brothers, Terry Reid and, obviously, Lynyrd Skynyrd. It really helped set the tone. Whereas with HALLOWEEN… not so much. There wasn’t much outside of the Carpenter music that was meaningful. But on this one, there are certain songs that are: “Nights in White Satin” is one. I knew I was using that in advance, and shot it with the song already in the movie. It makes a big difference.

Beaks: Did you time the scene out in your head?

Zombie: Yeah, you just kind of write the scene knowing that’s what’s going to be playing. And it makes it that you can really conceive it, as opposed to saying, “Oh, we know some music will be playing there.” I don’t know if people can tell the difference, but it helps me when I’m shooting.
Beaks: Did you play music on set?

Zombie: Well, there’s this scene where the girls go to this “Phantom Jam”. It’s a concert, and I didn’t want to have something where there’s a band playing, and all of the people are listening on headphones pretending to move to music. You always see that in movies, and you’re like, “Why is no one moving in time to the music?” It always looks really fake. So we decided to have a real concert and film it. It’s kind of like a Robert Altman movie, where you can kind of hear the dialogue overlapping, and the music’s blaring. But when you watch it, you go, “Wow! It looks like they snuck these actresses into an actual concert.” It’s so much more alive that way.

The thing is, Zombie always sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. But will it ever actually translate to a good movie?

Halloween II comes out August 28. Against my better judgement, I am going to get baked and go see it.

-AR

*Wow. White Cummings would have been such a better band name.

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  • http://www.greatgooglymoogly.com Halfsharkalligator

    devils rejects and house of a thousand corpses were both good movies

  • Joshie

    I really don’t want to see this movie, but I am interested in how “Nights in White Satin” is used in the film, because it’s f’n epic, even moreso than “Freebird” in Devil’s Rejects.

    • seveword

      Saying that Freebird is epic in any way (besides the following: Freebird is the most epic pile of crap I’ve ever heard!) earns you no gold stars for today.

      • Joshie

        In and of itself it isn’t (personally not a Skynard fan), but when used in the final scene of Devil’s Rejects, it totally is…or I guess the scene as a whole is.

      • groverXIII

        Looks like seveword has no appreciation for classic rock and one of the greatest guitar solos ever. For shame.

        • mike

          Freebird is the most self indulgent southern redneck song ever. Any band with 3 lead guitar players can pull off a 13 minute guitar solo. Thats just boring. Although, I hate that song, it was pretty epic in the final scene of Devil’s Rejects.

  • Pahkmycah

    House of 1000 Corpses and The Devil’s Rejects were amazing movies.

    I also enjoyed his Halloween. I liked seeing Rob Zombies new take on the story, it was new and refreshing. I found it more entertaining than other crap like the recent Friday the 13th remake.

    • Turrell Snick

      You suck at movies.

  • jason

    Boo this man….

  • http://myspace.com/obeydarklord mr_Izan

    freeeeeeeeeeeeebird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • dlux

    just because you’re a fan of good horror movies doesn’t mean you can direct/write them. it doesn’t necessarily translate. wish he’d quit ruining movies. house of a 1000 corpses was the worst movie i’ve sat through this side of “strange wilderness” or “hot rod”

    • Rolling Thunder

      Hot Rod was freakin’ hllarious sir. Keep your blasphemy to yourself.

      • dlux

        hot rod was beyond retarded. and i realize that was the point of the movie. but it was a waste of time. just another one of many SNL movies that shouldn’t have left the boardroom.

    • http://www.myspace.com/bminekime enemyofgod72

      House of 1000 Corpses only spotlighted Zombie’s enormous untapped talent. It was the best horror film I’d seen in a very long time that made me long for more good horror. “28 Days Later” started it for me. The “Slasher” films of the late 70′s and early 80′s were done terribly. No budgets and horrible acting ruined what could have a slew of awesome horror films but instead we got something entirely different which made the genre laughable, at best. “28 Days” proved that excellent writing along with a decent budget could produce “masterpieces”. Zombie stuck it out on “1000 Corpses” to further that truth. Failure to recognize this is ignorance on a scale that is beyond debate.

      • Turrell Snick

        You suck so bad at movies that you should be blinded for life.

  • I AM HELL

    not a big fan of Rob Zombies newer stuff, but White Zombie’s La Sexorist Devil Music Vol. 1 is an fucking awesome album! <~~classic

    • dlux

      indeed it was. the album after that was decent too.

  • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

    Sorry, i love the mans music- i like his original films, although he has a tendency to borrow too much from his influences- but he’s basically leading the charge with this trend of shitty re-makes. Some deserve it some dont. Michael Myers was already the fucking man before Rob Zombie got ahold of him. For gods sake leave it alone.

  • http://www.myspace.com/bminekime enemyofgod72

    I know I’m about totally alone on this site when I say I actually liked Rob’s remake of Halloween. He told a story not told in the original. It wasn’t just an average remake. Rob made Halloween his way while paying homage to the original by doing it, and John Carpenter, the favor of not just trying to copy the original. But hey, I liked the remake of “Texas Chainsaw” and “The Hills Have Eyes” too. Personally I’m glad to see horror movies finally get at least a decent budget and decent actors instead of no money and “nobodies” acting it out. In order for a film like “El Superbeasto” to even have a chance to come out on DVD, a director like Rob Zombie has to kiss a little ass to make it happen including making a movie he never wanted to make. It’s how Hollywood works. I, and I presume Mr. Zombie, wish it was different but it isn’t. I’m sure doing the hunk of garbage that will be Halloween II is only a means to an end which brings us awesome treats like “El Superbeasto” and “T-Rex”, so pay your fucking $10 bucks, see Halloween II and sit back waiting for the better things to come. Failing to show up to Halloween II just tells the Hollywood douchebaggery that Zombie has nothing people want to see. That’s wrong, don’t let a few douchebag elites deprive the world of something truly special. PEACE OUT!!

    • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

      Dude im by no means elitist- fuck no, ill probably see it out of sheer curiosity. I just feel that this whole remake trend is killing creativity in film as a whole. i would LOVE to see more original movies by Rob- i just think he should stick with his art, not a fuckin cash cow.

      • Tommy Lindbergsen

        Creativity was already dead, this is why the remake trend started to begin with.
        They don’t make ‘em like The Shining anymore.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Antonio-Barba/1640095586 Antonio Barba

    I love RZ movies…Halloween also was a very good movie, not only a remake. I’m waiting for H2 !!!

  • Bullshit Detector

    All Zombie did was add a white trash storyline (suprise!) to Michael Meyers. To most young folks these days that equals mastermind story teller. Go figure. Creatively the world is in a complete slump at this point and people like Rob are the best Hollywood can offer. Terrible storytelling, terrible acting, insane that they would let a total amateur hack deface classic horror movies in this fashion, but anything for a buck, huh?

  • Bullshit Detector

    Btw, I just want to reiiterate, Zombie did nothing original to Halloween. The movie was exactly the same as the original with the white trash background thrown in.

    I can almost imagine Zombie sitting there thinking “What can I do to make this different… Let’s see, Michael was kind of fucked up wasn’t he? I know! I’ll make his mother a white trash pole dancer, his step father a white trash alcoholic abuser, his sister a whore…. wow! I’m onto something here!” Wow, he is a total genius, isn’t he?

    Remember when the studio ordered him to go back and reshoot some scenes and there was an interview with him about it and he was almost defense, stating it was nothing? (Go google it for yourself). Go find the original workprint for the movie and look at the scenes that were cut and reshot. In one, the cops pull up, aim their guns at Michael, who suddenly holds Laurie closely (save me, Laurie!) and almost takes a step back and raises his knife defensively.

    Yeah, he’s a genious who added his own original ideas to Halloween alright. Man should never be allowed to remake another classic horror movie again.

  • Baphomet

    Rather than continuing maksed horrors, Rob Zombie is trying to inject horror with character. I believe hes trying to make horror more personal. Trying to make it something that anyone could be or become. And hes convincing.

    His remakes only glorify and personalize something all horror film lovers knew, but never were shown.

    Its the same formula as Stephen King or John Carpenter using all Lovecraft’s ideas.

    Which, by the way, if your out there reading this, make a Lovecraft flick. Get to the roots. Test your skill !!!