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OLD BREED, NEW HATE

 Thursday, August 20th, 2009 at 12:30pm by

hatebreedI do really enjoy Hatebreed when I’m in the right mood, and they’re a lot of fun live. But the thought of a new Hatebreed album doesn’t really get my blood pumping the way it used to. Perseverance was a turning point, the moment the band officially went from being hardcore to metalcore; since then, they’ve really just made Perseverance Part 2, Perseverance Part 3, etc.

Now they’ve announced a Septmeber 29 release date for their new, self-titled album, and front dude Jamey Jasta is promising that this album will mark another evolution for the band:

“I feel this new album is a true crossover record in the sense that our metal and hardcore roots are evenly represented throughout it. There’s still the fast East Coast tuned down Hardcore that people know and love, yet there are metal influences that shine through on almost every song.”

I really want to believe Jasta, but doesn’t it sound like he’s describing pretty much every Hatebreed album from the past decade? When’s the last time the band did something there the metal influences didn’t shine through?

Maybe I’m wrong. I actively hope I’m wrong on this one. Original guitarist Wayne Lozinak has returned to the fold now, so maybe he helped the band switch things up a bit from the Sean Martin era.

And even if I’m not wrong and the album isn’t really different from the past few releases, I know the record won’t suck… I would just love to feel giddy about a Hatebreed disc again.

Guess I’ll find out soon enough.

-AR

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  • Uglymicrowave

    I couldn’t agree more…

    I used to be obsessed with hatrebreed….they have to be the band that got me into heavy ass music in general…

    but now…i just dont care to get excited about a new jastabreed record…

    lets hope they remake satisfaction is the death….

    • All Out War

      1

  • Rigidie

    I am ready for a new hatebreed album. Keeps my blood pumping.And plus I listen to Hatebreed so I don’t let my anger out on anybody. LOL . Just hope Hatebreed keeps its like they have been hardcore. Because there are to many other bands selling out or havent made music for awhile and come out and suck.. Hatebreed has keep it real…. So Don’t Stop Now……

  • Gecko

    I’ve always been a big fan of Jasta and Company, and always promote them as one of my favorite bands. I even dug the Kingdom Of Sorrow record. I dig the heaviness, the lyrics, the energy, the whole vibe that Hatebreed give off. I’m the first guy to admit it’s not for everyone, and most tr00 metal guys (ziltoid, I’m looking at you here), won’t even give a band like this a chance. That’s fine with me. But Hatebreed always spoke to me, and they’re fun as hell live, so I’m always jacked up for a new album from them. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…but that’s just me…

    • http://www.metalsucks.net/category/scraping-genius-off-the-wheel/ Gary Suarez

      I like Kingdom Of Sorrow 1000x more than Hatebreed. I can’t believe people feel like they have to apologize for enjoying that album. It was Jamey Jasta fronting Crowbar!!!

      • stu1

        I thought it was one of the best records of last year. Very very good.

  • John

    You forgot to mention the second turning point on the last record, where they went from metalcore to numetal.

    • stu1

      You must have gotten a different record than me.

  • http://twitter.com/SchenkelTown Daisy May Tinklepants

    i do like that hatebreed have a positive message and write lyrics that actually mean something to people.

    • Phill

      Oh shut up. You sound like a pussy. Metal is supposed to be violent, hateful, evil, etc. Not positive!!

  • DemonicLemming

    Meh. Lyrically they’re ok, although the whole “empowerment metal/positive image” thing gets a little annoying after a while (after all, I don’t listen to death metal because I’m a happy little butterfly, and I don’t listen to music in general to make myself feel better)…musically, all their stuff sounds the same to me. Saw them at Ozzfest a couple years back, and it was really just like one long, indecipherable period of noise. Bland stage presence. Just…meh.

    • cougar party

      I agree. I don’t want to talk too much shit about hatebreed, but they have always been sort of a boring band to me. I also saw them at Ozzfest a couple years back and like your experience, it sounded like a wall of noise with Jasta screaming over it. I saw them on the Jagermeister Tour (last year, I think?) and it was the same situation.

      could someone suggest some good Hatebreed songs to listen to? I haven’t heard anything by them that gets me psyched.

      • sinistatroy

        satisfaction is the death of desire. the whole album. 26min and 14sec of fucking awesome

      • Gecko

        If you want some Hatebreed suggestions…

        I Will Be Heard

        To The Threshold

        Another Day, Another Vendetta

        I can’t promise you’ll love them, or that they’ll make you run out and buy a ton of merch and CDs and shit, but they’re some of my favorite tracks by them. Again, I listen to a lot of hardcore in the vein of Madball, Throwdown, Remembering Never, etc, so I’m into this style of music, and I get that most people aren’t. I merely make suggestions if asked for them. Let me know what you think.

      • cougar party

        Thanks guys, I’ll check them out.

  • msv81

    Meh, you’re right, Axl, in that everything this band has released since “Satisfaction…” has sounded rehashed and nearly identical. Although, I don’t think I can recall a time when I was genuinely excited about any new Hatebreed record, so maybe I was never a big fan to begin with. The lyrics do not really “speak” to me, but I’ve seen them live more times than I can count (in their heyday, they opened for just about every one of my favorite bands multiple times on different tours) and I must admit their live show is pretty incredible. Here’s to hoping they release a killer album.

  • jason

    I have to admit that Hatebreed hasn’t been a part of my listening rotation since the late 90′s. I gave perserverance a try when it came out and…i dunno whether I was outgrowing hardcore or what, but it struck me as kinda “same ol, same ol”. I wouldn’t mind being proved wrong with a new record.

  • Sean Pulatie

    I’m not really a fan of Hatebreed. I did own “Satisfaction is…” at one point, and I think their live performance on the Hellfest 2002 DVD I own is actually pretty sweet. But that’s about as far as my love for them goes.

    That being said, they have managed to stay relevant a hell of a lot longer than most bands in this genre, and Jasta always seemed to know his shit back when he was hosting Headbanger’s Ball. (Not sure if he still is – I don’t get MTV2 anymore). Maybe I’ll get over my lack of interest in this band and pick this one up.

  • stu1

    I kind of think of them like a Ramones or a Motorhead or even a Slayer at this point. You pretty much know what you’re going to get when you get a new record. Even with little tweaks, it’s still Hatebreed. But, if you’re into what they do, that’s not disappointing.

  • jason

    Is it just me, or is there more of a general sense of respectful disagreement on this site since Eyal’s post yesterday?

    • jason

      nevermind, I just read through the Dime post:)

  • Biff Tannen

    JUMP-DA-FUCK-UP TOUGH GUYS !!!

    ….fucking knuckledraggers

    • stu1

      PARK YOUR WALKERS OVER HERE!

      …. fucking old people

  • groverXIII

    When it comes to Hatebreed, I like the song ‘I Will Be Heard’… the problem is, all of their songs otherwise sound exactly the same. They’re extremely boring (and no, I’m not channeling Ziltoid on this one).

    • SolaceInNothing

      Funny thing is I always thought you were Ziltoid.

      • Ziltoid

        Nah, I don’t use alts, but grover seems like a pretty chill guy.

  • NukeDukem

    In an ever changing metal world, it’s always good to know that Hatebreed will still be the same subpar band they were in 1997.

  • Sammy

    The only time I’ve seen Jasta live is with Kingdom of Sorrow, and as a front man, he brings it. Hell, he even stopped the show to help some poor schmuck in the crowd find his wedding ring that had fallen off in a mosh pit. And I’ll be damned, if someone didn’t find the ring and return it the guy!

  • Sammy

    NukeDukem: the new Ziltoid.

    • NukeDukem

      Oh, come on, I got here yesterday, I can’t be that good.

      • groverXIII

        If you’re going to be the new Ziltoid, you’re going to need to listen to a lot of power metal.

        • NukeDukem

          Ew, no.

          • I am James?

            I must admit that i am not the biggest fan of mr. ziltoid. but come on man PM rocks everybodys mother fucking socks off. I am seriously can you think what the world would be like with no kicking Powr Metal?……The same. POWER METAL SUCKS ZILTOID IS STILL AN IDOIT WITH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHEESE

        • Ziltoid

          I don’t listen to a lot of power metal, and absolutely none of it is the testicle-less crap of cheese bands like Sonata Arctica and Stratovarius. Blind Guardian, Kamelot, Persuader, Hibria, Powerwolf, etc. are all good PM bands that have balls. BALLS!

  • http://www.myspace.com/breathofmetalproductions pokesmot

    I dig Hatebreed.They are a solid band that has been able to stay relevant in the scene for many years.
    I havent gotten excited for a Hatebreed record in a long time.I am however stoked for the new record.Hatebreed is a band that you can depend on to deliver what they promise.You always know what you are gonna get.I have seen them many many times being that I am from the same area as them and I am always very excited to see them live.They never let down with their live show.I was just recently at the filming of their new video and the song was killer and I think the video is gonna be good shit.Like them or hate them you gotta give Jasta and co. respect for what they have done and what they will continue to do.

  • hi my name is mark

    *obligatory “making fun of Ziltoid” post*

    Seen Hatebreed twice, they were better the second time around.

  • whyowhy

    I found it funny that when I opened this link in a new tab it said: Old Breed, New Hat

  • Tommy Lindbergsen

    I never really got into Hatebreed or Hardcore in general.
    The latest Hatebreed I have heard sounds like they’re trying to go Death metal.
    Lame.

    • stu1

      Again, there sound has changed very very little over the years.

  • Fong Chung

    I bet Hatebreed is going to make the same album over again. Zzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://dmxrr15@hotmail.com IsntaTOTALdouchebag10

    No one can deny that most of their albums are very similiar and I dont doubt this one will be as well. But its an excuse to listen to them for awhile before I get sick of it again.

    Is it anyone else’s dream for the next time you get in a fight with someone you despise, that all of a sudden Hatebreed just starts blasting out of the nearest speakers? Yes? No?

    • http://iand Iand

      ^ ^ This

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Livingston/25310975 Robert Livingston

    I miss Satisfaction Is the Death of Desire stuff.

  • http://reaper-x.deviantart.com/ Reaper-X

    I kinda forgot about them after I Will Be Heard…

  • Ziltoid

    lol, Hatebreed. Horrible excuse for noise.

    • Gecko

      Dude, i’m not exactly surprised that you’re against Hatebreed. That’s cool. Clearly you and i disagree in our musical tastes, and that’s fine. I think the whole point of music is for people to listen to what they like, and what makes them happy. If you’ve ever read my posts and comments, I hope you noticed I have my opinions, but I’m obviously not the guy looking to pick fights or start mile long comment wars. I just want to make the point that i like or dislike the band, and occassionally make some jokes about things. That being said, I have to ask, what’s with the attitude on you? I get that you’re not into the bands posted on this site, and you want us all to know about it, but what’s the point of the condesencion (which I think I spelled wrong), and the holier than thou stuff? I’m not trying to start shit or get into a whole ridiculous thing with you. That’s not my style. I’d just like an intelligent response that I can respect, that isn’t just “I listen to these bands and they’re amazing and everything else isn’t”. That’s all I’m looking for.

      • stu1

        My guess is his band never went anywhere and he feels cheated.

  • http://www.solidsterecords.com NoCowNoFood

    Zitoid is gay and has a boyfriend named Brandom XD.. I dig hatebreed and I have a lot of respect for their music and lirics/ u can see them on their latest album of covers for the Lions, I believe is going to be Kiiller, I’ve heard dudes saying that the Hardcore scene is dead.. yeah comming from Indie dudes,, No wonder