JUMPING DARKNESS PARADE: EYAL ON 5-0
Tuesday, August 25th, 2009 at 4:30pm by Eyal Levi
Do you guys have any issues with cops? Ever been unfairly treated by one or many? No, this isn’t a defense attorney ad, but I’m just curious. You see, prior to one thing that happened on the last tour DAATH did (and, granted, it wasn’t HUGE), I had never ever been messed with by a cop. I’ve always treated them with respect, and somehow they’ve always treated me that way. And I KNOW that is a rare situation because I hear from so many people about how they’ve been brutalized or fucked with or just not treated right by some cops.
My thought has always been, who you gonna call at 5 a.m. if someone is rummaging through your house and you don’t own a gun? They’ll risk their lives for you, so with me, there’s always a baseline of respect. But this thing that happened to us sure did shatter that respect for at least one cop.
And you know what? He seriously did look like somebody bred a pig with a human. I mean you couldn’t get a better caricature of the pig/cop stereotype if you put blue shirts and hats on a bunch of farm pigs. This guy was sweating, this guy looked like a pig, and this guy was mad.
Here’s what happened: DAATH was on the way to a show in North Carolina. While passing through South Carolina, we ended up in a bumper to bumper for miles traffic jam. Two lanes. Both clogged like a constipated senior citizen at a truck stop. Nowhere to go but forward ever-so-slowly. I was driving and Emil was navigating. Every so often, we’d see cars fly by in the emergency lane. By the third one Emil and I were laughing about how those dumb asses always get caught. Why even bother doing that?
And not three minutes later does Officer Pork walk into the street, motion for some traffic to go around him, and point straight at me with anger in his eyes and his whistle
blowing loudly. And then he motions for us to pull over. WHAT THE FUCK? FOR REAL? WHAT THE FUCK DID WE DO?
So we pull over and he comes up and he tells us that he done saw us coming over the hill in the emergency lane. I tell him no way we would do that. We have no exits here to rush to, plus we were JUST talking about how people who do that get busted. Well, the cop then tells me I’m lying. I’m not lying. He tells me that if I tell the truth maybe I can get away with a warning. Okay – stop for just a second. He thinks I’m lying. You’re not supposed to lie to a cop. And he’s telling me that if I admit to lying, that he’s gonna let me off? Somehow things just don’t seem right. What if the next question is “Do you have any drugs in the vehicle?” And we answer “no,” to which he says, “How do I know you’re not lying to me. I’ll have to search your vehichle.” That would have been very, very, very bad. I had some painkillers on me an angel gave me when the docs wouldn’t prescribe them for my broken rib. Also who knows what else was in the van. I’m sure you guys can all guess that its 420 all the time in DAATH land.
Anyways, I told him I wasn’t lying and I took the ticket. Fucked if you do, and way more fucked if you don’t. I paid it. $155 for something I didn’t do. I still respect cops. But my patience has definitely been tested.
You guys ever have a similar or worse experience?
-EL
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I live in New York. I could write a book on corrupt little piggies for you Eyal.
As for a situation, I was leaving my school one night about 2 years ago when I was a senior in high school after a football game, the parking lot was empty except for my car. I got in my car and proceded to drive out of the lot going about 25 if that, once again it was an empty parking lot. I got down the block and a cop pulled me over. He gave me a speeding ticket for going 25 in a 15 zone (the parking lot). The second I roll my window down he goes “What do you think you’re in the indie five hundred?” I laughed and said “No sir just going home”. He handed me the ticket, and suddenly the situation wasn’t funny anymore. 25 in a 15. What the fuck, go bust some crack heads over in Brooklyn, instead of harassing someone leaving a fucking parking lot.
I’ve had a similar situation. A bunch of my friends and I went to a park by a river just down the road from my high school. There were about 10 to 15 or so and we were a mixed bunch, meaning color. Some how, someone walking the trail around the park thought there was about to be a brawl or something, but we were just hanging out and shooting the shit etc. All of a sudden, four cop cars pull up like someone had just found Jimmy Hoffa’s body and the first one there got dibs on the claim. Well we all lined up in a row, and some how the black people who were with us were on one end of the line. Not once did the cops look away from them. Talking about sending them to juvenile and what not. The funniest part of it was this fat cop, much like the one Eyal described, pig faced and as fat as a butter ball, rolled out of his car with a shotgun and just stood there like some bad ass. Some cops are cool, others have this power complex about them.
That sucks dude, it really makes you think man. There are so many better things they could be spending our tax dollars for, instead they harass us and pull over members of good bands on their way to a tour spot hahaha
never a cop around when you actually do need one though eh Eyal???
Actually once we had a suspected breakin and they were there in 2 min flat with guns drawn ready to protect our shit.
Cops can not search your vehicle legally without your permission. You have every right to deny them when they ask to search your car, and if they force you to or do it anyway, you can file a lawsuit and/or a complaint with their office.
I remember the debate raging the day we discussed the 4th Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure in my last constitutional law class. This was when *Arizona v. Gant* was still pending, but once they finally ruled on it this year it changed the rules a little. A nuts and bolts treatment here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Motor_vehicle .
My sister being a lawyer, I should have paid a little more attention the night she saw fit to wax eloquent on this very subject. Here’s hoping I never have to ask her to represent me — as a victim of police corruption or anything else.
Sucks, Eyal. But it could have been sooooo much worse…
I know it could have been way worse. That’s why I didn’t lie to him. I think that if I had he would’ve searched us and we would have been waaaaaay fucked
Dude, do you know Patrick, Cem and Tom from Atlanta? They told me you sold them a cymbal or something for the band Kretos. But one of the guys had the similar situation, a cop asked to search him and he had stuff on him, and he just told the cop no and that he’s not legally allowed to search with no permission and got away haha.
I sold them a cymbal? You sure it wasn’t Kevin Talley that sold them a cymbal?
Not sure I know those dudes
It might have been the other guitarist in your band and he got your names confused haha
I think most people forget that in the situation (given they know about it at ALL.). During the questioning the cop has some sort of psychological advantage of being the one in control. I bet that, 90% of the time, any cop could pull over any car and handcuff the person driving it without the driver even thinking about questioning the cops authority.
You are going to get fuckheads in any line of work. I think the nature of Police work and what they do kind of shines the spotlight on the fuckheads who are cops. I grew up in a fairly small town and we had about 5 or so cops that everyone knew and everyone knew what kind of experience they were going to get when they got pulled over by one. And yes one was a total douchebag and one clearly had a chip on his shoulder when it came to the crowd I rolled with. But they were all pretty good dudes and I usually stop and chat with them if I see them.
That’s why I mentioned that I always have a baseline of respect for them and that my loss of it was for this one particular individual.
I meant to reply to the person two posts above mine(Johnny), it wasn’t directed towards you.
ive been pulled over for having long hair and a goatee before.
fuck the police
Eyal, in chicago you ge tickets for things that aren’t even illegal.
I ride my bike everywhere in the city, and in the state of Illinois, it’s not illegal to not wear a helmet.
But if a cop sees you without one on, he can go ahead and write you a ticket.
I used to work as a bike messenger in the business district, and even if you had your helmet, a light on the bike, a brake, and your company’s badge or I.D. on you, they’d still write you a bullshit ticket, because you may or may not have thought about cutting a car off, to make a turn. I contested 7 tickets in 2 years as a bike messenger, and didn’t have to pay a single one. I knew my good luck would run out though. As soon as i began driving from work to school in the winter months last year, a cop pulled me over because he believed that i turned at an intersection when the light was red. I didn’t make any such violation, but he began writing me the ticket anyways. I asked him, “officer, do you think i’m lying about this?” he quickly and austerely said, “yeah I do you little prick.” he handed me the ticket, and went on his way. I tried to contest this, and even went to the court date, but because I didn’t have a witness with me for what the cop said whilst he wrote the ticket, I had to pay the fine of $200.
I agree with you, I respect police officers, because they help to keep us safe. But now that i’ve had my fair share of problems with them, my patience has grown really thin too.
So.. the guy was sweating, which made him look like an animal that doesn’t sweat?
Not to sound like a dick or anyth… ah screw it, I’m a dick.
Damn dude – you caught me on that one
Dude did look like a pig though
I’ve had a couple negative experiences with cops. The most disheartening of which was a time when my friends and I were just shooting hoops one night at a school and a couple of cops sped through the school and pulled up on the court and started getting in our faces. They threatened arrest, but I honestly didn’t believe it because I was naive enough to think that innocent people can’t be arrested. And then I’ve gotten the usual speeding ticket where the cop says you were going way faster than you were and then they act like they’re cutting you a break by putting the speed you were actually going so the fine isn’t as high. I’m not really inclined to argue with cops due to my educational background in psychology because I’m aware of the personality type of the majority of people who seek out that type of employment…
“I’m not really inclined to argue with cops due to my educational background in psychology because I’m aware of the personality type of the majority of people who seek out that type of employment…”
Great point.
Cops in SC are generally dicks. My state isn’t exactly known for great police service. A good number of them do their job well, but there’s just as many that are only there to treat people like their playthings.
Once two of my friends and I were accused of raping my girlfriend at the time because we had been taking pictures of an abandoned building and when they searched us (which they naturally assumed my black friend would be carrying) and found no drugs I offered to take a drug test the minute they mentioned it (I’m straight edge. I’ll be damned if some fuckhead is going to accuse me of doing drugs because I like photography) they decided to suggest the reason we’d been in the abandoned building was so we could rape my girlfriend. Knowing me quite well, my friend was on hand to tell me that it was probably best if I sat down and didn’t speak after that comment since I don’t exactly think before I react in a situation like that and we were able to leave once the police weren’t capable of proving we did anything wrong (since, ya know, we hadn’t).
Other than that however, I haven’t had too many rough experiences with cops.
we had the cops called on us for practicing a few times. everytime the cops have been cool and made a point to say they didn’t even wanna bother us because they dug the music, but the old blue hairs were complaining. just told us to turn it down. cops are usually cool, it’s the club security dudes that are the dicks.
I grew up in East Los Angeles. Do I need to say anymore? Growing up dealing with racist ass cops was a part of life. I’m 1/2 Mexican and have a ton of tattoos, so I look like a “gang banger” to them. I have a certain amount of respect for cops because the amount of pay they get as compared to the risk their jobs pose to their lives is unmatched. However, cops go through a less than a year long program to CARRY A GUN! That’s right. They give a 22 year old kid the use of deadly force after a 7 month course. It’s easy and requires minimal commitment. Make these guys take a 2 year course, pay them more, and we will get better results.
you’ll still get the racist ass cops. listen, my brother and sister-in-law are cops but cops are basically dicks. it’s part of the job.
Military service often requires even less training than that, by more than half. Depending on the branch, their recruiting standards can be even lower than the standard police department’s. For example, an Army infantryman (11B) spends 9 weeks in basic combat training and 5 weeks in advanced individual training. That’s it, depending on whether or not they get picked up for any special schools. Also, 17-year-olds can join with a parent’s permission. I’ll let you use your imagination to figure out what kinds of toys they get to fondle every day. But they say most cops can go their entire career without having to draw their piece.
No real point. Just something to think about. And to get myself back on topic, I appreciate the fact that you can acknowledge that they have challenging jobs, even when so many aren’t always as fair to you.
Yes, I considered the military when I made my original comment. I didn’t include them because they aren’t carrying their guns around me and don’t enforce laws that directly effect the public.
Well, that’s something that’s fucked up with our world today. Cops have to go through 7 month courses to be able to use a gun. How long does it take for an even younger kid to join a gang and being able to use a freaking assault rifle or something? I’m aware there are regulations enforcement offices have to go through, but come on…
Funny thing about race. I’m white yet I”ve had good experiences with black cops and white cops usually act like assholes. Maybe it’s just a coincidence in my case.
Another funny thing: I’ve seen a cop walk up to a stopped car and give the peron a ticket for not stopping at the stop sign
I’ve been pulled over 14 times in my life. Of those 14, probably about 8 tickets. Not bad…. Oh and I hate cops. All of ‘em.
Maybe you should stop driving like shit or acting suspicious.
Jesus, I gotta go with Ahab. 14 times?!? Fuck me running.
Hey, fast driving does not necessarily equal bad driving.
no, but it constitutes illegal driving, dummy.
I’ve been tasered while trying to sell my body
Funny, we have something in common: We’ve both been tasered in the line of duty. Difference is, I had to qualify with the weapon, while you … Wait, what were you doing? And who the Hell did you proposition off to get them that pissed at you for it? Wow…
It was a long and painful episode that started with a 2am stroll to the corner fruit stand for nectarines in my somewhat revealing Wu Tang Clan shirt, and ended with a Massachusetts-shaped burn across my left butt cheek and a ride in a patrol car with an officer who insisted I call him “Sugah Daddy”. I knew I should have gone with a lighter shade of lipstick…that’s why they call it Hotlanta.
Negative, Sugah Lips: You got stunned, not tasered. And it was your own fault — you shouldn’t have been dressed like that. Sounds like you got a nice ride out of it, though… *snickers*
Oh he definitely had me screaming “police brutality”
I don’t know if it’s a common practice everywhere, but Niagara County (NY) cops pretty much run a scam where they pull people over, give them a bogus speeding ticket, and let them plead it down to a parking violation so they don’t get points off their license but still have to pay the fee because New York state is so corrupt and greedy that being the second-highest taxed state in the union still doesn’t line everyone’s pockets sufficiently. Most of the cops around here pretty much suck. It pains me to say that, but it’s the truth.
Drove for a year and a half, maybe two without a front license plate on my car. A cop pulled me over probably cause he was having a bad day or something and gave me a warning.
A horrifying event indeed…
I’ve been pulled over for failing to yield to a police car with emergency lights on (no siren) in downtown Chicago. When I asked what the emergency was that he was going to that made him make a u-turn in the middle of a two lane road for he said there wasn’t an emergency. And the dude was a complete asshole about everything too.
Then there was this one time that two of my bandmates and I were caught stealing a loading cart from McDonalds and the cops caught us. The officer questioning us wasn’t angry or an ass, just demanding answers… until I became a smart ass where he promptly arrested us. So he made this huge scene cursing us out in front of a group of people that allegedly called the police when they saw me and my mates stealing from McDonalds. We deserved that, especially me, I suppose. But once in the car driving back to the station, the officer gave us a lecture and started light heartedly joking about the whole thing saying he had to put on a show for the people thinking that us bad kids were in for a ton of trouble and when when he found out we all had no criminal record and was just trying to score some load-in equipment at McDonald’s expense, he figured us dumb kids doing dumb stuff and let us off easy. He told us he would see us again in a few years when we started trashing hotels and stuff and laughed. The incident cost each of us $25. Good times.
One time I was at a local show and the cops came in there for no reason. My friends and I were smoking outside the venue because that’s the rule in Illinois, smoking in public places. We figured there was a fight inside or something that got out of hand, but actually they just went in there for no reason. Once they came out of the venue, they told us and everyone else to go back in the venue or else we’d all be arrested. I told the officer I was smoking and he said don’t be a smartass or I’ll put your ass in cuffs too.
Like you I try to give much respect to the cops/authority for better results. Sometimes cops have a ticket/arrest quota and the more they give for minor shit, the more money they make. It’s ridiculous.
One time my friend and I were driving to the movies and we got pulled over because a cop thought I didn’t have my seatbelt on when I was wearing it the whole time. They were good to us but the thing was after they let us off with a written warning, they wrote that my friend appeared to not be wearing his seatbelt as well. The funniest part about that occurrence was my other friend’s brother drove by and I’m like hey it’s steve laski, and then the cop goes is he related to Bill (one of my friends) and I’m like yeah why. He’s like that kid’s a bad influence, he’s in prison right now for too much d.o.c. which is a form of lsd i guess. The cop was like have you guys ever tried doc and I’m like no, but seriously if I did why would I tell them.
Wow… good story.
Cool story hansel…
I got pulled over one time at Worcester State College for exiting the wrong way out of the parking garage when the exit i was supposed to take was gated and locked. I told the cop this and he let me off with a warning.
I haven’t really had a bad time with the cops per se, like I’ve never been pulled over unless I was riding in my friend’s car. I find it funny how they ask us if we have weed on us when they pulled us over. One I don’t drive with that on me. Two even if I did, what do they expect me to say, oh yeah officer I got two grams of dank in my front pocket, would you like to smoke it with me?
Have you or any of your bandmates been pulled over and been caught with bud?
Yes. Jeremy got caught in a roadblock like ten years ago. Sean Z had something happen but I don’t know what.
Once we were driving in PA and the red and blue lights came on and we had weed. It was a foggy night. We immediately started eating it all. So it took us a second to pull over. When we did the cop was all pissed. “WHAT TOOK YOU GUYS SO LONG TO PULL OVER” – “It’s so foggy officer, we wanted to find a safe spot” – He was cool with that
we wanted to say – WE NEEDED TO FINISH EATING THE WEED ASSHOLE!!!
wow…nice save there.
Haha thats hilarious. I bet you pulled away from that one in a bad mood. Ticket and no more weed!! FUCK!!!
yeah but we got sooooo stoned from eating it
and we got no ticket!
The cop was cool… he just wanted to tell us that our fender was fucked up on the trailer
This one kid I know got expelled for buying weed at school, luckily he didn’t have to deal with the cops. Anyways he got a lot of shit from the staff. They searched his mp3 player for drug references and the bitch assistant principal told him that her granddaughter’s birthday is ruined because he bought pot. He felt like he was on trial for murder just for buying a tiny gram of pot.
P.S. The attendance guy also told him that weed can kill you without even touching it. lol
If you had a choice would you rather drink or smoke?
both at the same time
Smoke, then drink. Otherwise you”re gonna be hurlin all over your dates shoes. Don’t ask, true story.
Who the fuck only buys a gram.
Whoa bro, Good call on just taking the ticket, alot of times the officer may have been profiling and looking for “probable cause” I remember cops like that and do exactly what you just did write about it. But I would have included name and department to put them on blast about how jerk faced they were. See ya next time your in AZ bro
Yeah man. He was totally trying to trap me into lying so that he could have a reason to suspect that there was something in the vehicle.
Yeah. I was broken down one time and the police showed up and started giving me shit. They were acting like it was my fault and being generally rude. I have a friend that is a cop that even told me that about 3/4ths of cops are in it to make their community a safer place, but there is a 1/4th of them that are in it just because they used to get shoved around and are trying to spread the pain.
By the way you never have to let a cop search you. The only time they can search you against your will is if there is an OBVIOUS law being broken. i.e. you roll down the window and potsmoke comes rolling out or they hear somebody in there screaming for help, and so on.
I used to live on long island, and suffolk county cops are the biggest douchebags around. They honestly have nothing better to do then to go chill at a 711 or a gas station to get food and coffee. I always act as polite and resepctful to cops as much as I can, but they only look to instigate you and make you feel like a piece of shit. So all I can say is FUCK THE POLICE.
I have always wondered if 7-Eleven gives a discount to cops. For a store like that its probably not a bad idea at all, no one robs a store a cop is in.
While on a 2 week tour with an old band I was in, we were driving through upstate, NY at around 7am. We were pulled over for speeding. After the cop gave our buddy who was driving shit for about 5 minutes, the lead officer decided he watched the sleeping passenger in the front seat throw a bag of white powder out the window when they began pulling us over. At this point we started acting like assholes to the cop because not only was he sleeping, but the kid was straight edge. The two cops had us empty the entire van and proceeded to rip all our shit apart on the highway. When they didn’t find anything they started talking about getting our van and trailer impounded on suspicion charges. Finally a 3rd cop pulled up and after he got all of our stories from us, he had us return to the van while he reamed the shit out of the two cops who were giving us such shit. Big thanks to the 3rd cop, this little asian guy, for saving the day.
i grew up in upstate NY. Can get as ugly as Deliverance up there.
Not from round here are ya boy? Then the banjos start playing.
I’m from dat ther Upstate NY.
Last week, my band and I got lost coming back from a gig, and ended up in Lafayette, Indiana. As soon as we got off the highway, we got pulled over by this Erik Estrada wannabe cop. He told me I almost hit a car, which was bullshit — it was like 3 AM, nobody else was even around. He called for backup, and soon enough there’s 3 cars full of cops, just sitting there doing nothing, looking busy. Eventually he let us all go — no ticket, no nothing. Just wanted to waste our time. What a dick.
One of my moms friends were driving in the highway with her husband and she got pulled over the cop said she was driving eratecly or dangerous when she wasnt then her husband(hes a cop) and said “is there a problem” and pulled out his badge to show that he was I forget what the ranking is called but when he pulled it out and said what rank he was and where he worked at then the cop that pulled them over was like “Oh my mistake, sorry sir” and just went back to his car? Then drove away.
Wow…that sucks. I hate most of the cops out here in rural Missouri…all of them will fuck with you except for highway patrolman 666. He’s a real cop and his car number is 666 lol
I love cops they gave me plenty of exersize back in high school when I needed it most.
only one incident with a cop. Was already pulled to the side of the road, so my lady friend could puke her guts up. It was her b-day, and we where coming back from the bar. I probably shouldn’t been driving. Cops pulled up behind us. Gave me a sobriety test. Gave me some napkins to clean up my friend and sent us on our way.
Not too shabby
give a cop a hug
That ain’t shit compared to the law enforcement here in the town that I live in. They confenscated a pack of cigarettes from somebody to see if they’d been laced with drugs. Literally confenscated them. I’m actually trying to get IA to investigate the cops here. They work for the highest bidder here.
I got searched by cops (in the UK) this evening by plainclothed policemen (and a women)
I can see why, because there were about 10 of us, 4 cars and some people were smoking cigarettes/rollups. I don’t take drugs, and none of my friends there that night did, but they were all very respectable, respected us. I think initially they begin to take a harsh tone with you, but when you chat to them, and respect them, and it soon becomes fairly obvious you’re not doing anything illegal they can have a chat with you. All I’ve met have never tried to pin anything on us unfairly.
my advice is to only roll the window down a portion of the way so they cant reach in and pull you out. At this point get on thephone with you ” lawyer” tell him this and inform hi he is no being recorded this uslally banks them the Fuk off tell him his lawyer is not only gonna slap a copy to his superior but slap it on youtube and dump 10k into promoting said offerciers nice little “new Vid”..watch how fast the rewind fuin button pops up and he’s all ya’ll have a nice day now ya hear!!
they also have inboard mounts so ask him toi have that vid ready to back hisfat mouth up with!!
Eyal cant count how many times Cops have fuked with me or ones i knew !! sometimes deserved most times not…
bulling builds resentment, resentment builds hatred, hatred builds chaos
i dont know how that got so jumbled? o well
I have always been fine with cops. You hear the bad stories like this one, but then on the flip-side imagine all the bullshit they have to put up with. If both parties would just go into it with no prejudice things would be much better. But as a lot of your stories point out, usually people expect cops to be dicks, and they probably expect the same from us.
Like I said man. I respect them. This is the only bad incident I’ve ever had with one.
If you weren’t on tour, you could have tried to have the ticket appealed because you had done nothing wrong. But, seeing as you WERE on tour, an appeal would have been a total waste of time..
=(
yep. court date was while we were on the road
I just read ‘The Crucible” for school. The irony in that play is that the “accused witches” would be let off the hook if they admitted to being witches, but if they didn’t admit it they would be hanged. That reminded me of your experience, Eyal.
I normally find myself in agreement with a lot of posts from Shinaain but the the cops versus 11B was a horrible analogy likely founded on a bias against the military.
Cops on duty are equipped with ammunition. Many police forces require off duty police to likewise be armed.
With the exception of firing ranges or an area with conflict, you know a place where you can get shot at or learn some firsthand experience about explosives, the infantry do not usually go around with ammunition.
As far as training goes, the short initial period of Basic and AIT is for indoctrination into the lifestyle and how to be a team. The actual skills for performing your job are lightly touched on. It is when you arrive on station that the training really begins. There is also a uniform standard of conduct in the military that helps behavior to conform versus the wide range of behavior when you compare places line NYC, LA, Podunk Fucking Iowa.
I have been maced, illegally searched and also helped when stranded in the middle of nowhere. I afford police the same base respect I afford teachers, underpaid people that can make a positive impact on our world. Now once you are a cock, unless I am too, then it is on. ALWAYS get a name and badge number if you feel you are being harasses. They are accountable and complaints stay on record …too many and boards notice.
Sorry to push that button on you and I hope you know that I didn’t mean to offend. I’m an Army veteran myself, and rather than being biased against either the military or law enforcement, I’m fully supportive of both. I just readily acknowledge the fact that I served with a lot of people who shouldn’t be trusted to own or operate a motor vehicle, much less carry and fire an M-4 or run patrol and checkpoint security. Also, I had the opportunity to work and train with law enforcement, which then afforded me the opportunity to get educated a little about some of the challenges they’re regularly presented with while performing their duties.
And I happen to agree with just about everything else you said. Peace be.
You guys sold 1,300 copies of your CD the first week.
Who are you again and how the fuck did you land on Roadrunner Records?
Seriously, did ANYONE follow Daath before they hit Road Runner?
NO and nobody can fucking say they did. You idiots came out of NOWHERE.
Has anyone ever told you, you sound exactly like Devil Driver. except you don’t sell as well.
Not only will you be gone from Road Runner, i’m sure Devil Driver will be too.
Go smoke some pot, in 30 years you’ll have enough to buy a lot in a trailer park.
“Seriously, did ANYONE follow Daath before they hit Road Runner?
NO and nobody can fucking say they did. You idiots came out of NOWHERE.”
Yep you’re right, not a single person has listened to them before they hit RoadRunner. It just so happens that former Death guitarist James Murphy hated them so much, he decided to produce their album. They were also that unpopular that they managed to get Kevin Talley as their drummer.
I’d also like to throw out there that I’ve been listening to them since early 2006 when I found their myspace. And yes that was prior to the roadrunner signing.
You must be a cop
wow how bout you go smoke some Balogne Pony and call it a day.
are there any pills on this bus?
You sure don’t know your metal/music. My son and one of his best friends who is an EXCELLENT guitarist, by the way my son KNOWS several metal bands-Ceremonial Castings, With Passion (retired), Abigail Williams, he is doing a house party with Conducting from the Grave, they were going to crash at his place, they ROCKED at the show in Portland. So if you don’t like a band have the respect to leave them alone. What, jealous? Like the cop?
they sound nothing like devildriver first of all who fucking cares how many records they sold or what label there on, this band is more talented than youll ever be they put a lot of work into there music so dont go fucking shitting on it cuz ur just some dumb fucking nobody who sits on the internet and talks shit about peoples blogs get a fucking life and learn more about metal before you down that shit
Go smoke some pot, in 30 years you’ll have enough to buy a lot in a trailer park.
Right next door to you eh?
I’ve been sexually harrassed by your stereotypical old pervert cop. He knew the camera system in the job I worked at, he was the head of security. Not some rent a cop, a dusty, old police seargeant. Anyway he waits until i’m cleaning some stuff in a corner not in camera view and while having a regular conversation with me he started rubbing my ass and thigh and walked away telling me to have a fantastic evening. This guy not only perved me he betrayed my trust by doing so in a regular conversation, just one of many. I thought I knew the guy a bit, yanno? I respected him. That was fucked up. No proof either, as I said I was in a blind spot from the cameras, I checked. You’re not alone bro but that doesn’t mean they’re all like this. There are very decent cops as well as these pricks.
there are good cops, there are bad cops. Unfortunately good cops and bad cops are identical.
Fuck yeah I got a shitty cop story. I was coming home from work way back when I was in high school and was still a long haired metalhead. My car overheated so I got off the highway one exit before I was supposed to and coming up the off ramp my car rolled to a stop. So I put it in park and wait for it to cool down so I can try and make it home. No less than twenty seconds after I stop a cop pulls up behind me, exits the car, walks up and almost immediately asks me if they can search my car. There isn’t any “Can we help you with your car trouble” or “what seems to be the problem”. So they bring a fucking drug dog up and go to town. What I wondered the whole time is what probable cause did they have to search my car and the only answer I came up with is: I have long hair. Well this shit happened to me regularly throughout high school, even though I never had drugs on me, didn’t really give any reason to be pulled over and never had any kind of prior offenses. So I guess the moral of the story is: if your a guy, don’t live in the country and have long hair. Especially in pawnee county oklahoma.
Dude I’m in the military and stationed overseas. There are dudes here that I wouldn’t piss on to put them out if they were on fire. I might even watch them burn for a bit. But I have some friends too that I would take a bullet for. Cops are the same, some are better off on fire and some are going to come into your house at 5 a.m. and smash that burglers face in and then apologize for not getting there sooner.
Also for the record I would like to state cops in Guam are a bunch of lazy fat, corrupt, fucks.
One time my brother went to a baseball game in Detroit. My mom told me he got pulled over for drunk driving to which I replied: “How in the world do you get pulled over for drunk driving in Detroit?” I mean if the cops had drove another half mile they could have caught a drug deal, or someone shooting someone, or getting raped, its not a good city to live in by any means. But it turns out he was driving the wrong way on a way one street, but the cops actually gave him a break and let him drive home although they still reported it so he still had to go through all the legal crap. The cops actually said something like “we have bigger matters to attend to.” (like someone being shot, raped, drug deal :D) So, whats the lesson here? Cops don’t give a shit what you do in Detroit.
But to be more on topic, I have not had any bad experiences with cops and generally respect them.
A few years back I had just leased a new corolla not even three days before. I was on my way to work driving a back road I went down religiously to get to my job faster when i was pulled over by a younger kid(he couldn’t have been much older than me) trying to say my tail light was out i called my dad to let him know to check my light while i was sitting there talking to him I thought ya know he’s probably just starting out shit happens,but when it happened the next day the same way this time it was ” are you sure you checked your light” (which i had before i left and being the fact its a brand new fucking car) I locked the doors and wouldn’t get out of the car I told him to just give me a repair order i gotta go. His reply was nah man i not gonna do that just wanted to let you know I was like ok then and drove off. I didn’t even wait from him to leave the side of my car. The third day my dad came home using that road, told me that the fucking cop was sitting there again to get in my car we’re gonna drive up that road as we went by the cop car he just stared at me after that I never seen him up that road or anywhere else again. This wasn’t the worst run in I’ve had with the cops, but it was by far the creepiest. I still wonder what might have happened if I wasn’t on the phone and had gotten out the car. Now I keep some kind of weapon in the drivers side door cubby I know I probably wont get very far with it ,but at least i can stab the bastard before he kills me.
Oh yeah, over the years have been, Keizer which is a city next to Salem is KNOWN for rude cops. It seems obvious he was literally picking on you (they definately don’t treat me as nice if I’m wearing any kind of “metal” in my wardrobe). How you looked, your vehicle, etc. OR he is one of these cops that’s on an ego trip. Maybe you should have some shirts made,”Daath and the Pig, with a pic of a pig on it, add some metal graphics to the pig…
What the fuck is with these people putting your band down? This is NOT what the question was! More egotiscal metal wannabes that are jealous as the cops I guess. My self, my son, and a friend of his (who is a band) they are both VERY musically inclined, we saw you in Portland Oregon and you KICKED ASS.
And they are VERY picky about what bands they see. Can’t wait til the next concert. Maybe I’ll have a “pig” t-shirt made up and wear it!
I’m not crazy about the Pigs.While never a bad experience, I don’t think I’ve ever had a particularly good experience with them. I live in New York City, in a mixed urban/suburban neighborhood. It’s predominately black (as in African American). There have been several occasions where I got off the bus and started walking home, and undercover cops would stop me, tell me to”put my hands up”, and “don’t move”. Back then I was only in high school, skinny little white boy metalhead with long blond hair. I could kind of see why they would be suspicious. They took down my name from my ID, and searched me for anything, asked me to empty my pockets. One time they stopped me and I had my Saxophone mouthpiece on me, and they were like “What’s this?”, and I told them, and they were like “Hey, look we pulled over a choir boy, great.”
They could be spending their time much more efficiently, like busting the ugly-ass toothless hookers on the street corner.
But in general, cops used to stop me a lot, probably cause my appearance, you know, leather jacket, studs, a chain, long hair. Any combination of those items, will likely get you stopped somewhere.
Thats because stereotyping is what smart people do. Also those guys probably were too busy getting BLOW-JAYS from the toothless hookers to worry about real crime.
i was walking through a hotel parking lot to go inside for a party and one cop stopped me and my buddy and with in 2 minutes there was 10 cops surrounding us pointed there guns at us and slammed our heads against there cars like 3 times we were just go inside to party we tell them they thought we were junkies trying to steal from cars they actually searched me for track marks long story short im never allowed in that hotel again my picture is on the wall and i never in my life stepped foot in the place
Cops dun treat me real bad, they broke into my trailer and beat the tar outta me fer no reason! Then they went an’ raped mah gurlfriend with a baseball bat!
Yeah once i was riding behind a store like doing tricks on a scooter off a loading dock because that shits mad fun. Double tail whips, 360 whips and all that fun shit. but anyway the cop was a huge dick and told me “you better strap a mattress to that thing” and shit like ” doing stuff like that will get you on americas funniest home videos” and “turn that god damn light off (on a Camera)”
but yeah dude your story was bull shit because you didnt do anything wrong. fuck cops who abuse their power.
DAATH FUCKING RULES!
Ive had my run in’s with cops before, and for the most part, I haven’t had a whole lot to complain about. But that’s beside the point. I just want to say; I think it’s great that Eyal not only posts so much interesting and informative shit; but also reads and responds, almost obsessively (seriously dude, see someone about this) to every pertinent post. Good on ya! I visit this site all the time, and I spend more time reading your posts than just about anything else. keep it up. I hope to see you on tour sometime soon around the Toronto area.
I was once smacked in the face by a police officer when I was drunk. It was after a concert and I was with a friend, he wasn’t as wasted as I was, so he was good. So we were walking, acting cool and a patrol car parked in the street we were walking, stopped us. They were all cool at first, being polite and whatever, and as my friend told me I had to throw up and some of that tasty liquid got on the officer’s pants. That’s when he smacked me, but luckily my mother lived in the street and she heard me screaming outside, so got out, appoligized, surprisingly the cops left it at that. The second my mom dragged me into the house my mom got scared and said youre moving with your aunte and uncle in bel-air. I begged and pleaded with her the other day, but she packed my suitcase and sent me on my way. She gave me a kissin and she gave me my ticket, I put my walkman on and said I might aswell kick it. First class, yo this is bad, drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass .Is this what the people of bel-air livin like? Hmm this might be alright! I whistled for a cab and when it came near the licensplate said fresh and had a dice in the mirror, if anything I could say that this cab was rare, but I thought now forget it, yo home to bel-air. I pulled up to a house about seven or eight and I yelled to the cabby yo, home smell you later. Looked at my kingdom I was finally there to settle my throne as the prince of bel-air.
Bravo
fucking raped christ, w/o reading any of the other comments i can say assuredly that i have had to deal with such worse than most others here. not all profiling has to be racist, in fact if you’re the only guy in a certain neighborhood who wears all black and has long hair, these sadistic fucks out here will def use you as a laugh. When the COPS tv crew came out here, they didn’t even air the footage due to these guys beings so corrupt. sad but true.
Part of the reason i went undercover metalhead was to avoid harassment by the fuzz here. sadly if you dress like a chud or a wigger, it works. i dress like a hybrid of the two, aka “the chugger”
and yes, i do drink beer by the barrell.
and shit and live forever.
Ok here is my story.
I was on my way home from work. (I worked as a computer tech at the time). So I had sneakers on and my dress clothes. (The sneakers were for the walk). My hair was long it was cold out so I had a Beanie on.
I crossed this street not exactly at the light (Partly because of the ice on the ground so I wouldn’t fall on my ass). This Cop was about 15 feet from me at the light. (This was one of those Baby Huey type guys, You could tell he was young) So he yells to me “Hey what are you doing?” At first I didn’t even know he was talking to me. I was just trying to get home. He yells again. What do you think you are doing? I’m like me? He is like yeah. Keep in mind he is yelling. I”m like I’m going home. He is like come over here. I’m like I’m going to fall on the ice I will meet you over there. So I meet him there. So I’m like officer what did I do? He is like I could get you for Jay Walking that’s what? I’m like are you serious? Cause I’m crossing the street trying not to fall on the ice you want to get me for Jay walking.
But he is like there were some robberies around here the past couple nights. So I said ok what does that have to do with me? I’m wearing dress clothes and sneakers (I even had my tie still on). He is like where are you going? I said to my apartment (Told him the address which is like a block away). He is like let me see your I.D. . I said I will show you my I.D. but i think you are getting a little crazy about this. I think you are fishing. He is like just give me your I.D. I’m gonna run it and if you have ANYTHING I’m taking you in. I said ok fair enough. He also goes I’m calling for backup cause you are being hostile. I’m like man you have to be kidding me. Hostile? I was like here here is my bag search it want me to empty my pockets cause you won’t find anything.
So the other officers arrive. I said look I don’t want to talk to this guy anymore. I will talk to you guys because your fellow officer is being unruly. They run my I.D. . They find NOTHING. They let me go and he says You better watch yourself. I’m said for what You are unbelievable. I live in this town and pay taxes for you to protect me and you just harassed me. Thanks For Nothing.
I went home. I never saw Officer Baby Huey again.
But I was being profiled for having the Hair and the Beanie.
Fucking hell that was hard to read.
Sure way to get pulled over in Australia: having P plates on.
The licensing system here means you have to spend a total of 3 years on a ‘provisional’ license and put white plastic plates with a P on them on your car. ‘P-platers’ are usually 17-21 years old and so, of course, automatically in the wrong. It’s like having cop magnets on.
On the upside, it’s always funny to see their eyebrows shoot up to their hairlines when you pull up, roll down the window, innocent as pie in a little girly car, with Lamb of God or something blasting from the stereo.
Yep, These South Carolina cops are douchebags of the highest order. I am originally from NY and I thought the cops there were bad. Like you, I always have had an inbred respect for cops. My great grandfather was a cop, and my grandfather (who was my hero growing up) taught me about respect for authority. I also have found throyghout my life, that if you treat someone with respect, they will (more often than not) treat you with that same respect. One day, my brother and I are driving to my house from Guitar Center when I see the cop behind me turn his lights on. I pulled over, confused as I had done nothing wrong. He approaches my window and asks for my info. I give him my (expired) NY license and my registration. Now I am 16 years into my career in the Military. In fact, I am still in my uniform from earlier in the day. NY has a military clause which allows me to drive on an expired license until 6 months after I get off of active duty. Well this douche immediately starts in on me about the license. I show him my Military ID, but he is already pulling out the ticket book. I then asked him what I was pulled over for, to which he replied my out of state plates. Apparently you are supposed to change your registration and plates over to SC within 120 days of moving to the state. Again I am exempt due to my military status. He then looks at me and says “I also pulled you over because I smelled marijuana smoke coming from your vehicle”. Now I do not have anything against anybody who smokes weed. Prior to my time in The AF, I was known to party myself. But I have not even thought about getting high in 16+ years. It’s just not worth losing my career over. I insist that he is mistaken and am told I am being beligerent and to step out of the vehicle. He proceeds to tear apart my car searching for drugs. Glove compartment, roof liner, trunk, everything. At this point I call my military suoervision who in turn call his supervision and we all have a big shindig on the side of the road. Long story short, I did not get a ticket that day, but I have been “randomly” drug tested 5 times in the last 6 months (coincedence?). I still respect cops, but if I ever see this asshole out of uniform, I might end up in trouble…
I’m in NC man and the cops here are kind of assholes but your right, the ones in SC are the fucking worst man.
I remember a couple incidents with cops that were just them harrasing us. Once was on campus when I was going to college. In the apartments I lived in, there was a dirt rode which allowed you to go around the back of the apartments instead of through campus and all these stop signs and waiting on preppy assholes to cross the street and talk to girls in the middle of the fuckin road. Well, I took the road. It was a hot day, the road was dry, there was lots of dirt comin up on it. So I pull into the parking lot and what the hell is this? Blue lights behind me? “woop woop” Er…wtf?
So I stay in the car and here comes the pig (and I do mean pig, this bitch was over 300 lbs had to be. I mean…if I wanted to outrun him he would never catch me…he’d die in the first 100 yards of running) up to my window and says “You need to slow down, you were going way to fast on that road I’m going to have to write you a ticket.” So I’m like “Er….no I wasn’t.” Cop: “Look don’t argue with me, just wait in your car.”
I wait in my car for about 20 mins. 20 fuckin mins. He comes up and says “I left my ticket book in the office whats your arpartment number” At this point I’m like WTF you fat fuck its not my problem you left your ticket book in the damn office. Maybe if you were thinking more about what you’ll need for work instead of what flavor of donut your going to cream in your jeans over this wouldn’t have happaned…
I tell him my apartment number because they have it in the computer anyways. So he shows up about 30 mins later with a ticket. During the time he’s gone I’m thinking…there is no speed limit sign on that road at all, I seriously doubt he clocked me. So he opens the door hands me the ticket and I say “Excuse me but did you clock me sir.” He stops and just gets this look in his eyes like “Fuck me wet a dry donut stick” I say “well?” Cop: “No I didn’t”
I ripped the FUCK OUT THAT TICKET IN HIS FACE.. SWEET VICTORY WAS MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I said “You have a nice day now.”
God it felt awesome.
God I’ve have so many experiences with cops…hahahahaha I’ll write a couple more in a bit.
God damn I just noticed I can’t spell worth a shit when I wake up in the morning HAHAHAHAHA.
Blame it on the South. Seriously. I’ve had several encounters with the cops, nothing like that.
Cops are a lot like Tow-truck drivers. It’s what you become when you’re not good at anything except ruining people’s day.
Coming home from Swayzes in Marietta one day a few years ago a state trooper pulled a buddy and me over on the I75 near Fort Valley. It was around one or two in the morning so of course the cops thought that we had been drinking. Okay, so we had been drinking but that was several hours ago at the show. For some reason I think it was Dysrythmia, Behold the Arctopus, and Psyopus but I’m not 100% sure about that one. Back to the story; It was several hours since we last had anything to drink and my buddy, being the driver, stopped drinking much earlier than I did. The cop pulls us over, for what I’m not sure, and decides to be a complete dick to my friend. Pulls him out, gives him a sobriety test, and then makes him take a breathalyzer test. My friend gets back in the car and tells me he passes the test no probs. The cop then comes back and tells us we have to pull over at a gas station until he sobers up. By this time I’m pretty pissed off by how the cop is treating us and tell him that my bro just passed the breathalyzer so there is no need for us to pull over somewhere. Being a pompous as that he is, the copper says if we don’t pull over at the next stop he is going to through us in jail. I continue to protest and he then rips me a new one. Jerk.
We start the car and proceed to the next exit with the state trooper following us to make sure that we are doing what he said. We hang out at a local gas station for about 30 minutes or so watching as the state trooper pulls through the gas station several times. A few minutes later we bolt out and make our way back to shitty Warner Robins, GA.
We didn’t get in any trouble but you can’t help but feel like a complete ass when some douche face cop decides to disregard his own laws. I have several more but, seeing as how this is a Georgia one, it’s fitting. Peace!
I always got pulled over on the I-20 in South Carolina. Pricks!
I have a video of my uncle fighting cops in Dallas. I also was almost arrested in my own house I just moved in because they thought I was breaking in. Thank goodness my roommates came to tell them I actually lived and the reason the door was broken. Been stopped while walking because he thought I was throwing firecrackers, told him how could I when I have a mcgriddle in one hand and some oj in the other.
If that’s true, we need to see that video.
I live outside of Cleveland and the suburban cops are cool as hell. We’ve had a few problems with fuckheads in my neighborhood and they have been extremely helpful. They have also been very fair with me when I’ve been in the wrong… That said, I’d hate to be black and live downtown. There are some seriously racist police in the city. I guess they have a lot of shit to deal with and their perspective can get skewed, but some of the stuff I’ve seen and heard has been pretty bad.
The only time I’ve had trouble with the cops was for throwing donuts outside of a police station.
TRUE STORY.
once, when i got arrested, i saw a cop slam a guy’s head against a brick wall for no reason other than the fact that the dude said something rude to the cop.
i live in canada.
A 70s revivalist punk (i.e. wannabe sid vicious) king-hit me as i was walking out of a club with my girlfriend. When i retaliated (because he was starting on my girlfriend) a plain clothes cop hit me across the face with his baton. The punk ran off. I got a broken cheekbone
I had one with a mall guard, I still count that as POLICE still, Anyway tho. I was going on the escalader or what ever, And i was real tired from walking 45 minutes away from my house to there, So i took a little sit on it, I was going to get up before we reach the top. A guard tells me to stand up, And i did as they ask me to with no complain’s, He tells me to come back down. And when i did, I ask him “How may i help you officer?”(Very nicely), He asks me “Trying to be a tough guy huh?”. I reply “No, I was not trying to do anything”, He said “Right, Well guess what i am going to ban you”, I was like “Excause me?, How long?”. He said “You don’t have to worry about that”, That was a smart ass response that’s where i was not mister nice guy anymore right there. I told him straight up i did nothing wrong at all, And he said i kept lieing to myself, When there’s nothing to lie about. He kept getting smart with me, So i was being a straight up ass hole to him for acting like he was, I even called him a smart ass. He also threaten me not ONCE, But TWICE, I ignore it and think violence was not the answer, I think i should report him and the head of security for doing that bull shit, They ban me for a fucking year from the mall. And i was about to get a job there to and everything, I did nothing wrong, So i was going to be a straight up ass to them before i get ban and everything. And must i say this just happen yesterday, And they hated me so much, That the head of the security team was like “Get him his damn papers, And get him the hell out of my mall”, LMFAO. He even call me a smart ass when him and the security guy was being one themselfs, And they started stuff with me, So if i go back there less then a year, I will be arrested with charges for trasspassing. So i do not trust police or security teams at all, No matter what because they might do something idiototic like that, And be inmature 30 and 40 year olds for doing so stupid. So this is pretty much my LONG ass story that you all read, Hope you all know now what POLICE and SECURITY can do now, This is all for now.
Havok