Comments on: E.U. METAL CULTURE VS. U.S. METAL CULTURE http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/ IS FOR LOVERS Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Offal Love http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-292006 Offal Love Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:51:31 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-292006 I'm vaguely offended by some of that article, though not enough to bitch about it... I’m vaguely offended by some of that article, though not enough to bitch about it…

]]> By: Scott http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-291997 Scott Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:14:43 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-291997 Oh and in terms of Aussie metal parkway drive is amazing, throws a kick ass show, and has an extremely introspective lifestyle that only a fool would not respect but I wouldn't go as far to say fuck us and eu metal this nationalism shit is crazy. Oh and in terms of Aussie metal parkway drive is amazing, throws a kick ass show, and has an extremely introspective lifestyle that only a fool would not respect but I wouldn’t go as far to say fuck us and eu metal this nationalism shit is crazy.

]]> By: Scott http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-291995 Scott Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:04:23 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-291995 Well not to get into politics or economics but if you look at the difference between most of europe's economic structure (socialist) and America's (free-market) their whole lifestyles tend to be dramatically different. America being based on competition and Europe more so on strength of government and common things like health care being provided. So getting back to metal it seems like most Americans and it's especially angsty youth everyone is competing and can very often oversee the quality of things and buy into them based on the qualities that are percieved by others, which is rediculous because music is a completely individual and by liking music based on tr00-ness you kind of forfeit some of your individual opinion which is so not metal. So sorry I'm kind of on a rant but I think it's the competitive nature of Americans causes them to be much more hostile and leads them to try and find a niche with the tr00-est genres, which is also part of American culture, sticking as close to sucessful people as possible. In terms of economics though competition is awesome and creates extremely creative shit unlike a lot of American music. Why the fuck am I talking about this anyway sorry for the rant guys I am probably wrong and often am but I thought I'd give my 2 cents. Oh and I'm proud to be an American, everything has its pros and cons. Well not to get into politics or economics but if you look at the difference between most of europe’s economic structure (socialist) and America’s (free-market) their whole lifestyles tend to be dramatically different. America being based on competition and Europe more so on strength of government and common things like health care being provided. So getting back to metal it seems like most Americans and it’s especially angsty youth everyone is competing and can very often oversee the quality of things and buy into them based on the qualities that are percieved by others, which is rediculous because music is a completely individual and by liking music based on tr00-ness you kind of forfeit some of your individual opinion which is so not metal. So sorry I’m kind of on a rant but I think it’s the competitive nature of Americans causes them to be much more hostile and leads them to try and find a niche with the tr00-est genres, which is also part of American culture, sticking as close to sucessful people as possible. In terms of economics though competition is awesome and creates extremely creative shit unlike a lot of American music. Why the fuck am I talking about this anyway sorry for the rant guys I am probably wrong and often am but I thought I’d give my 2 cents. Oh and I’m proud to be an American, everything has its pros and cons.

]]> By: Matt Dasher http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-291591 Matt Dasher Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:38:01 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-291591 Euro-metal seems to be more preoccupied with blasphemy. Ameri-metal is more political. Euro-metal seems to be more preoccupied with blasphemy. Ameri-metal is more political.

]]> By: Ben http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-291262 Ben Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:17:28 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-291262 Everyone has their own taste. You are just saying it is good probably because it is similar to your own. Im pretty sure the majority of people here would consider metalcore a trend, and yet one of the most popular metalcore bands, Underoath, has been at it for 10 years now. Your logic is extremely flawed. Just because Nu-Metal was the prime example of a trend and lasted for a short while DOES NOT mean all the microgenres you don't like are trends and will die out in a few years. Everyone has their own taste. You are just saying it is good probably because it is similar to your own. Im pretty sure the majority of people here would consider metalcore a trend, and yet one of the most popular metalcore bands, Underoath, has been at it for 10 years now. Your logic is extremely flawed. Just because Nu-Metal was the prime example of a trend and lasted for a short while DOES NOT mean all the microgenres you don’t like are trends and will die out in a few years.

]]> By: jason http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290828 jason Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:13:22 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290828 That's a good question, and I wish I had the answer. If I was to take a stab at it, I might suggest that in the states metal, punk, hardcore, et al was something championed by outsiders. I don't think this is quite as true now as it was when I was a teenager (almost 20 years ago), but back then riding a skateboard and listening to aggressive music was pretty much begging for somebody to fuck with you. Eventually you started to see your persecutors wearing Metallica shirts and such as their popularity spread to the mainstream. This was obviously pretty infuriating for kids that only a year or two before were seen as social pariah for being into that type of music. The long-winded point that I'm trying to make is that we didn't have a lot of the outlets that kids do now. For god's sake, there a fucking Hot Topic (if you don't have these in your country, google it) in every shopping mall in America. And we definitely didn't have the internet to spew vitriol at unsuspecting comment-board patrons that we felt crossed our boundaries of what we had deemed "cool". Instead we just vandalized shit....and that's what message board trolling has become. Easily ignored, easily removable graffiti. That’s a good question, and I wish I had the answer. If I was to take a stab at it, I might suggest that in the states metal, punk, hardcore, et al was something championed by outsiders. I don’t think this is quite as true now as it was when I was a teenager (almost 20 years ago), but back then riding a skateboard and listening to aggressive music was pretty much begging for somebody to fuck with you. Eventually you started to see your persecutors wearing Metallica shirts and such as their popularity spread to the mainstream. This was obviously pretty infuriating for kids that only a year or two before were seen as social pariah for being into that type of music.
The long-winded point that I’m trying to make is that we didn’t have a lot of the outlets that kids do now. For god’s sake, there a fucking Hot Topic (if you don’t have these in your country, google it) in every shopping mall in America. And we definitely didn’t have the internet to spew vitriol at unsuspecting comment-board patrons that we felt crossed our boundaries of what we had deemed “cool”. Instead we just vandalized shit….and that’s what message board trolling has become. Easily ignored, easily removable graffiti.

]]> By: jason http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290801 jason Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:51:55 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290801 Wow, you just totally proved my point. Wow, you just totally proved my point.

]]> By: Kasper Maigaard http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290646 Kasper Maigaard Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:16:28 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290646 I know I'm generalizing here, as I actually don't know shit about it. But it seems that the moshpit-etiquette is pretty much the same on both sides of the Atlantic. You go crazy, but you help people up again. And you stay away from the hardcore-fans who does that stupid run amok-windmill armswinging thing. They are just looking for a fight, but ends up all alone in the middle of the crowd. I know I’m generalizing here, as I actually don’t know shit about it.
But it seems that the moshpit-etiquette is pretty much the same on both sides of the Atlantic. You go crazy, but you help people up again. And you stay away from the hardcore-fans who does that stupid run amok-windmill armswinging thing. They are just looking for a fight, but ends up all alone in the middle of the crowd.

]]> By: Kasper Maigaard http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290635 Kasper Maigaard Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:10:55 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290635 Well, yeah, that explains HOW they dare write the shit they write, but not WHY. Just because you're invincible on the internet doesn't mean you have to be a complete douchebag just because you CAN. Being untouchable doesn't make people mad. Therefore I can be completely dumbfounded when somebody responds to something I've written with insane-ish hostility. Why are they that angry? Well, yeah, that explains HOW they dare write the shit they write, but not WHY. Just because you’re invincible on the internet doesn’t mean you have to be a complete douchebag just because you CAN.
Being untouchable doesn’t make people mad.
Therefore I can be completely dumbfounded when somebody responds to something I’ve written with insane-ish hostility. Why are they that angry?

]]> By: slave_screams http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290622 slave_screams Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:02:14 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290622 That means 90% of bands are trendy, as few last more than a few years That means 90% of bands are trendy, as few last more than a few years

]]> By: slave_screams http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290616 slave_screams Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:56:11 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290616 Ouch - you missed a great gig man Ouch – you missed a great gig man

]]> By: Hairyman http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290503 Hairyman Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:58:43 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290503 No offence to you because you are obviously passionate about this type of music, but isn't a metal website a strange place for you to argue this issue? No offence to you because you are obviously passionate about this type of music, but isn’t a metal website a strange place for you to argue this issue?

]]> By: Hairyman http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290500 Hairyman Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:55:51 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290500 "Europeans seem to be a whole lot less concerned about genre-labeling and scenes." That pretty much sums it up. For instance, take a look at the stuff Thrash Hits feature. It varies a lot. Hardcore, punk, thrash, death, hard rock etc. I've never been a big fan of labels, they just help when you're trying to explain what so-and-so are like to another person. As far as I'm concerned, listening to alternative or extreme styles of music really allows you to dabble in stuff you're not used to and really give it a chance. Fuck, I'll admit to being a Korn fan. I'm admit to being a Black Dahlia Murder fan. I don't give a shit what anybody thinks about that. If someone does then they need to get their priorities straight. Music is just like any other form of entertainment; you like, you listen to it. I don't see this sort of hostility with movie fanatics. I like trashy films and I like smart films, depends what mood I'm in. Same goes for music. “Europeans seem to be a whole lot less concerned about genre-labeling and scenes.”

That pretty much sums it up. For instance, take a look at the stuff Thrash Hits feature. It varies a lot. Hardcore, punk, thrash, death, hard rock etc. I’ve never been a big fan of labels, they just help when you’re trying to explain what so-and-so are like to another person.

As far as I’m concerned, listening to alternative or extreme styles of music really allows you to dabble in stuff you’re not used to and really give it a chance. Fuck, I’ll admit to being a Korn fan. I’m admit to being a Black Dahlia Murder fan. I don’t give a shit what anybody thinks about that. If someone does then they need to get their priorities straight.

Music is just like any other form of entertainment; you like, you listen to it. I don’t see this sort of hostility with movie fanatics. I like trashy films and I like smart films, depends what mood I’m in. Same goes for music.

]]> By: Buttor http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290414 Buttor Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:52:40 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290414 Ah come ON Zilty listens to Disturbed we all know that... Ah come ON Zilty listens to Disturbed we all know that…

]]> By: LEROY AUSSIE DRAGON http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290264 LEROY AUSSIE DRAGON Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:44:13 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290264 FUCK EM BOTH. AUSTRALIAN METAL IS THE SILENT ACHIEVER, THE UNDERDOG, AND WILL RISE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS. FUCK EM BOTH. AUSTRALIAN METAL IS THE SILENT ACHIEVER, THE UNDERDOG, AND WILL RISE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS.

]]> By: LEROY AUSSIE DRAGON http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290261 LEROY AUSSIE DRAGON Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:42:01 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290261 that was fucking long! fuck EURO AND US METAL.. AUSSIE METAL REIGNS SUPREME that was fucking long! fuck EURO AND US METAL.. AUSSIE METAL REIGNS SUPREME

]]> By: Stephen http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290226 Stephen Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:33:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290226 Nicely put. Nicely put.

]]> By: Nate http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290129 Nate Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:25:49 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290129 I remember when i gave BTBAM a chance... Saw them with Bodom and i couldnt stand them. I remember when i gave BTBAM a chance… Saw them with Bodom and i couldnt stand them.

]]> By: Shinaain http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-290047 Shinaain Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:47:33 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-290047 @ goolash: Crap. I meant to thread my response to yours and Chip Northcutt's, and that's exactly why. @ jason: Why get married when we can just shack up? @ goolash: Crap. I meant to thread my response to yours and Chip Northcutt’s, and that’s exactly why.

@ jason: Why get married when we can just shack up?

]]> By: Patton http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/e-u-metal-culture-vs-u-s-metal-culture/#comment-289959 Patton Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:09:25 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19907#comment-289959 USA is a bit weird, that is all. USA is a bit weird, that is all.

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