Comments on: JUMPING DARKNESS PARADE: EYAL WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU CARE ABOUT METAL LYRICS http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/ IS FOR LOVERS Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jackal http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-379615 Jackal Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:07:29 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-379615 wow, was I ever late on this one. wow, was I ever late on this one.

]]> By: Jackal http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-379613 Jackal Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:06:53 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-379613 Don't get me wrong, I love me some Spinal tap and stephen lynch all the way to Anal Cunt but I think the lyrics have to do justice to the music just as much as the music has to do just to the lyrics. Nothing I hate more then hearing an amazing song with lyrics that are god awful or just plain old not trying, vice versa I loathe just as much when there are unbelievably good lyrics where the music is awful or just not doing justice to what's there (though, whether the lyrics/music are doing justice is a matter of opinion itself)... that being said, I believe that both ends of the spectrum are equally important to eachother, they make the whole. Whether it be a story, a political statement, a situation someone had to overcome, whatever the root of the lyrics are they are just as important as the music their sung over. I'm not sure whether that puts me in the 'hardcore' fan section or not. I imagine a persons mood would also effect their feelings on the tune, nothing like some good old fraggle rock :)... hah Don’t get me wrong, I love me some Spinal tap and stephen lynch all the way to Anal Cunt but I think the lyrics have to do justice to the music just as much as the music has to do just to the lyrics. Nothing I hate more then hearing an amazing song with lyrics that are god awful or just plain old not trying, vice versa I loathe just as much when there are unbelievably good lyrics where the music is awful or just not doing justice to what’s there (though, whether the lyrics/music are doing justice is a matter of opinion itself)… that being said, I believe that both ends of the spectrum are equally important to eachother, they make the whole. Whether it be a story, a political statement, a situation someone had to overcome, whatever the root of the lyrics are they are just as important as the music their sung over. I’m not sure whether that puts me in the ‘hardcore’ fan section or not. I imagine a persons mood would also effect their feelings on the tune, nothing like some good old fraggle rock :)… hah

]]> By: Nick S. http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-346311 Nick S. Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:23:34 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-346311 Generally, I prefer to listen to the music for its own sake, since, after all, I'm not at a poetry recital, I'm listening to MUSIC (that's the keyword there). However, if a song catches me to the point where I find myself genuinely wondering what the lyrics are, or if listening to, say, a concept album, or anything by Opeth (who have some of the best lyrics I've ever read, with the possible exception of Watershed), then I might actually look up the lyrics. But, generally, it's the texture of the vocals and the vocal lines that gets me. I used to care more about lyrics, but I think I was probably put off by the cliched and childish-sounding lyrics of bands like Amon Amarth, SotS-era At the Gates, and pretty much any other band with lyrics that could've been written by a five-year old. Now, I just go wherever the song takes me... Generally, I prefer to listen to the music for its own sake, since, after all, I’m not at a poetry recital, I’m listening to MUSIC (that’s the keyword there). However, if a song catches me to the point where I find myself genuinely wondering what the lyrics are, or if listening to, say, a concept album, or anything by Opeth (who have some of the best lyrics I’ve ever read, with the possible exception of Watershed), then I might actually look up the lyrics.

But, generally, it’s the texture of the vocals and the vocal lines that gets me. I used to care more about lyrics, but I think I was probably put off by the cliched and childish-sounding lyrics of bands like Amon Amarth, SotS-era At the Gates, and pretty much any other band with lyrics that could’ve been written by a five-year old. Now, I just go wherever the song takes me…

]]> By: Martin Hyatt http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-315046 Martin Hyatt Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:06:01 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-315046 It sure helps. It is not necessary to have great lyrics, but when you do it makes your band really stand apart. Think what you will about Job For a Cowboy...the lyrics on the last two albums are fucking amazing. It makes a difference if it shows that you care bout what you are screaming/barking/singing about. It sure helps. It is not necessary to have great lyrics, but when you do it makes your band really stand apart. Think what you will about Job For a Cowboy…the lyrics on the last two albums are fucking amazing. It makes a difference if it shows that you care bout what you are screaming/barking/singing about.

]]> By: Budikah http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-310491 Budikah Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:21:24 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-310491 Music over Lyrics. HOWEVER. There is some music I simply won't even bother to listen to due to a horrid vocalist or horrible lyrics. Megadeth is one of the biggest ones I can think of recently. Mustaine was never the god of lyrical performance - but put some fucking effort into it. I've heard nursery rhymes that took more thought to write out than some of his lyrics. Music over Lyrics.

HOWEVER.

There is some music I simply won’t even bother to listen to due to a horrid vocalist or horrible lyrics.

Megadeth is one of the biggest ones I can think of recently. Mustaine was never the god of lyrical performance – but put some fucking effort into it. I’ve heard nursery rhymes that took more thought to write out than some of his lyrics.

]]> By: Xn0r http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-296007 Xn0r Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:50:51 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-296007 In general, I've always been a "music over lyrics" sort of guy. But whether lyrics are important to me completely depends on the band and/or style. For brutal death metal and BM, stuff like that, I don't care that much. The voice is just another instrument. Half the time I can't discern what they're saying anyway. If the style of the band or the song is such that I can actually discern the lyrics, they obviously become more important (mostly insofar as crappy/dumb lyrics can detract from the song). Sometimes the right tone or words at the right time can have a huge impact on my enjoyment of the song. So I guess I have to again, "it depends on the band/style/song". In general, I’ve always been a “music over lyrics” sort of guy.

But whether lyrics are important to me completely depends on the band and/or style. For brutal death metal and BM, stuff like that, I don’t care that much. The voice is just another instrument. Half the time I can’t discern what they’re saying anyway.

If the style of the band or the song is such that I can actually discern the lyrics, they obviously become more important (mostly insofar as crappy/dumb lyrics can detract from the song).

Sometimes the right tone or words at the right time can have a huge impact on my enjoyment of the song. So I guess I have to again, “it depends on the band/style/song”.

]]> By: dimentian http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-295593 dimentian Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:42:52 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-295593 whatever is going on in life theres always a connection to a record that helps you relate. especially metal for me, and there's probably 5 albums that i think were specifically wrote for me. Thats how in tuned your personality can be with the bands you confide in. whatever is going on in life theres always a connection to a record that helps you relate. especially metal for me, and there’s probably 5 albums that i think were specifically wrote for me. Thats how in tuned your personality can be with the bands you confide in.

]]> By: BILLSSWILLS http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-295452 BILLSSWILLS Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:24:17 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-295452 ammendment!!!!!! also anything both oderus and cronos say are to be taken extremly seriously, and with open ears ammendment!!!!!! also anything both oderus and cronos say are to be taken extremly seriously, and with open ears

]]> By: BILLSSWILLS http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-295446 BILLSSWILLS Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:21:41 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-295446 it's been a long held belief of mine that caring about the feelings of other people has no place in metal... the only times it's ok to enjoy the lyrics in metal are as follows: tom araya commands you to KILL for 30 seconds straight james hetfield makes you scream DIE for 15 minutes straight and when david vincent speaks sumerian it’s been a long held belief of mine that caring about the feelings of other people has no place in metal… the only times it’s ok to enjoy the lyrics in metal are as follows: tom araya commands you to KILL for 30 seconds straight james hetfield makes you scream DIE for 15 minutes straight and when david vincent speaks sumerian

]]> By: Slaughterhouse http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-293614 Slaughterhouse Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:50:33 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-293614 In Metal music, with screamers, I tend to lean towards how they do it...how they apply it...almost like they are their own instrument and add another rhythm on top of whats going on...Metal vocalist are very rhythmic In Metal music, with screamers, I tend to lean towards how they do it…how they apply it…almost like they are their own instrument and add another rhythm on top of whats going on…Metal vocalist are very rhythmic

]]> By: Colin O'Connor http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292511 Colin O'Connor Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:44:20 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292511 Eyal, I like both but I want to say that I take into account what the band was trying to do in the first place. An extreme example would be that obviously if a band put out an instrumental album it would be retarded to critcize the lack of lyrics. So if a band is trying to push just musicianship then yes the lyrics are less important, but the music had best be that much better. However, if a band puts out lyrics that are intended to be serious and come of different....like funny for instance yeah that detracts. I don't listen to one scene in particular at all. I personally thought hardcore kids cared more about doing drunken kung-fu and getting accidentally punched in the face but that's just my observation. Metalsucks love Gojira so I'll talk about The Way of All Flesh and say....I FUCKING LOVE the lyrics on that album and they added immensely to MY experience with that record. It's one thing to play technically impressive music but if you are able to have a coherrent theme that even the little details like album art reflect you are able to cement yourself in the psyches of fans like no guitar solo by itself can do. Song lyrics are just one way of doing this. This can obviously be done without lyrics or even great musicianship. Simply put if you can put out a vibe that other people can feel one way or another that's all it takes in my mind. Anyways it really depends on what fan you ask and how deeply they decided they want to get into their music. Personally I dig immersiveness because I am usally trying to detract from something boring that I'm doing at that particalar time ( like working or driving). Summing it up....lyrics don't matter 100 percent, however, if done right they add a lot and if done poorly can severely take away. That's my 15 cents. Eyal,

I like both but I want to say that I take into account what the band was trying to do in the first place. An extreme example would be that obviously if a band put out an instrumental album it would be retarded to critcize the lack of lyrics.

So if a band is trying to push just musicianship then yes the lyrics are less important, but the music had best be that much better.

However, if a band puts out lyrics that are intended to be serious and come of different….like funny for instance yeah that detracts.

I don’t listen to one scene in particular at all. I personally thought hardcore kids cared more about doing drunken kung-fu and getting accidentally punched in the face but that’s just my observation.

Metalsucks love Gojira so I’ll talk about The Way of All Flesh and say….I FUCKING LOVE the lyrics on that album and they added immensely to MY experience with that record.

It’s one thing to play technically impressive music but if you are able to have a coherrent theme that even the little details like album art reflect you are able to cement yourself in the psyches of fans like no guitar solo by itself can do. Song lyrics are just one way of doing this. This can obviously be done without lyrics or even great musicianship. Simply put if you can put out a vibe that other people can feel one way or another that’s all it takes in my mind.

Anyways it really depends on what fan you ask and how deeply they decided they want to get into their music. Personally I dig immersiveness because I am usally trying to detract from something boring that I’m doing at that particalar time ( like working or driving).

Summing it up….lyrics don’t matter 100 percent, however, if done right they add a lot and if done poorly can severely take away. That’s my 15 cents.

]]> By: Trux http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292420 Trux Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:21:08 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292420 Nevermore suck???......geez man, I think they are great . but i totally agree about Mudvayne... Nevermore suck???……geez man, I think they are great .

but i totally agree about Mudvayne…

]]> By: Mike from Adrenalin http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292406 Mike from Adrenalin Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:06:06 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292406 Yes and no. I normally don't care what the lyrics are about. Occasionally I will check out the lyrics. I noticed that when I DO take the time to read them, I tend to favor that song more than others. Also, when I review CDs for Adrenalin and am sitting there listening to the CD from beginning to end, it is nice to have something to read. I have also totally hated a band because of their lyrics so it has its pros and cons. Overall though, most lyrics go unread by me. My wife is different. If she can't understand the vocals, she always reads the lyrics. I have other metal friends that are the same way. Yes and no. I normally don’t care what the lyrics are about. Occasionally I will check out the lyrics. I noticed that when I DO take the time to read them, I tend to favor that song more than others. Also, when I review CDs for Adrenalin and am sitting there listening to the CD from beginning to end, it is nice to have something to read. I have also totally hated a band because of their lyrics so it has its pros and cons. Overall though, most lyrics go unread by me.

My wife is different. If she can’t understand the vocals, she always reads the lyrics. I have other metal friends that are the same way.

]]> By: Trux http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292392 Trux Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:49:54 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292392 100 100

]]> By: jers http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292307 jers Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:27:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292307 Lyrics do make a difference. That's why Mudvayne and Nevermore suck. And Death and Emperor forever rule. Lyrics do make a difference.

That’s why Mudvayne and Nevermore suck.

And Death and Emperor forever rule.

]]> By: DaNi http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292245 DaNi Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:34:34 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292245 I'm SO glad you asked!! I actually care about lyrics. Most metal fans are insatiable egocentric idiots who could care less about what a singer bellows. However, I HAD to learn to get over it when I first got into death metal. i make an exception if they sound good [Necrophagist, Cannibal Corpse, 90% of death metal lol] but I love when a band can make INTELLIGENT lyrics. it makes a band that much more amazing to me. and LOG is SO overrated, not to mention that their lyrics aren't all that great. i especially enjoy reading Opeth's lyrics [Mikael is a wonderful lyricist, you should really reconsider looking at them], Dark Tranquillity, Insomnium, etc. i think melodic death metal fans care more. thankfully YOU GUYS put some thought into your songs which is also why i like Daath [yes, even the new stuff that everybody's hatin on lol] and that's my two cents. =D I’m SO glad you asked!! I actually care about lyrics. Most metal fans are insatiable egocentric idiots who could care less about what a singer bellows. However, I HAD to learn to get over it when I first got into death metal. i make an exception if they sound good [Necrophagist, Cannibal Corpse, 90% of death metal lol]
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I love when a band can make INTELLIGENT lyrics. it makes a band that much more amazing to me. and LOG is SO overrated, not to mention that their lyrics aren’t all that great. i especially enjoy reading Opeth’s lyrics [Mikael is a wonderful lyricist, you should really reconsider looking at them], Dark Tranquillity, Insomnium, etc. i think melodic death metal fans care more. thankfully YOU GUYS put some thought into your songs which is also why i like Daath [yes, even the new stuff that everybody's hatin on lol]

and that’s my two cents. =D

]]> By: Brutal Jay http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292124 Brutal Jay Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:24:28 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292124 I'm not gonna read the comments that came before me but, I'm sure what I'm about to say has been sad at least 10+ times. Anyway, I do read the lyrics of metal bands, even with bands like iwrestledabearonce, and Heaven forbid Cannibal Corpse. If a band has intelligent and profound lyrics, it gives me a respect for that band beyond just making good music. This is the only reason I wasn't able to get into Five Finger Death Punch. The music was decent but the lyrics reminded me of the lyrics I used to scribble down in the 7th grade. I’m not gonna read the comments that came before me but, I’m sure what I’m about to say has been sad at least 10+ times. Anyway, I do read the lyrics of metal bands, even with bands like iwrestledabearonce, and Heaven forbid Cannibal Corpse. If a band has intelligent and profound lyrics, it gives me a respect for that band beyond just making good music. This is the only reason I wasn’t able to get into Five Finger Death Punch. The music was decent but the lyrics reminded me of the lyrics I used to scribble down in the 7th grade.

]]> By: Thor http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292110 Thor Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:53:29 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292110 yes the lyrics matter. a voice is just another instrument in the mix. you have to have something that is catchy and flows together with everything else. everyone remembers how their favortie solos go. its basically the same with lyrics. just instead of a particular sound its a word (just another particular sound). eyal is right. its all about sound. but lyrics give that extra little bit of flavor to a song that either makes it a hit or shit. it can sound good but if you can understand the words and they suck, then it just kinda ruins the whole thing in my opinion. yes the lyrics matter. a voice is just another instrument in the mix. you have to have something that is catchy and flows together with everything else. everyone remembers how their favortie solos go. its basically the same with lyrics. just instead of a particular sound its a word (just another particular sound). eyal is right. its all about sound. but lyrics give that extra little bit of flavor to a song that either makes it a hit or shit. it can sound good but if you can understand the words and they suck, then it just kinda ruins the whole thing in my opinion.

]]> By: Travis http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-292079 Travis Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:45:57 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-292079 I always read the lyrics, because when I pick out shitty bands from the diamond in the ruff bands, it goes, how the music makes me feel, how insane the guitar or drum work is, then it's if the singer is sending a message, or if the singer just says something that just sounds badass. I always read the lyrics, because when I pick out shitty bands from the diamond in the ruff bands, it goes, how the music makes me feel, how insane the guitar or drum work is, then it’s if the singer is sending a message, or if the singer just says something that just sounds badass.

]]> By: Noel http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/27/jumping-darkness-parade-eyal-wants-to-know-if-you-care-about-metal-lyrics/#comment-291796 Noel Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:24:42 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=19693#comment-291796 Hey, Eyal, you should write a blog about drum triggers. itd be interesting to here peoples opinion about triggers..and all that cubase drum machine studio magic shit. Hey, Eyal, you should write a blog about drum triggers. itd be interesting to here peoples opinion about triggers..and all that cubase drum machine studio magic shit.

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