LUNA MORTIS’ MARY ZIMMER ON LYRICS, POLITICS, AND SINGING VERSUS SCREAMING

Tuesday, September 8th, 2009 at 1:00pm by Axl Rosenberg

If you enjoy melodic death-tinged power metal – and really, who doesn’t? – then it’s hard to imagine that you won’t enjoy Luna Mortis’ Century debut, The Absence. This shit is heavy, infectious, and epic as all get-out.

A big part of the reason why the album works is vocalist Mary Zimmer. A classically trained singer who once had aspirations of doing opera, Zimmer put to shame all the over-processed, auto-tuned vocalists that will inevitably let their fans down in a live setting. Her voice isn’t only powerful – it’s undeniably real.

Luna Mortis have just released a new, David Brodsky-directed video for the song “Forever More,” which you can watch above. They’ve also just hit the road with Edguy and Epicurean. You can get a complete tour itinerary here; then, after the jump, read my chat with Zimmer regarding all things metal. Raaaaar.

zimmer1So, first of all, congrats on the album.

Thank you.

Why is it called  The Absence?

I dunno. Maybe we just like to name things after other bands [laughs]. I dunno. We kind of looked at the track listening [of the album] and picked the one that sounded best. I wish there was a cooler and more interesting answer than that, but that’s it [laughs].

No, it’s good not to get a pretentious answer every now and then. So something else I was really curious about is that I noticed one of your guitarists, Brian Koenig, does a lot of the writing for the band, including a lot of the lyrics. And it’s a little unusual these days, for  the singer to be singing someone else’s words part of the time. I was wondering if you find it hard to express yourself through someone else’s lyrics?

I really don’t. A lot of the singing I’ve done in my life, before I was doing the metal thing, was as a classical singer. So you just get really accustomed to singing stuff that other people wrote. And I know this sounds really weird, but I’m not much of a writer. I’m definitely a performer. I never even dabbled in writing before this album. And I feel like with a lot of the lyrics that Brian writes, I can relate to them personally. Sometimes I’ll be singing [his lyrics] and I’ll think “Wow. This really means this to me.” So it was never really an issue for me.

And how did you decide that you’d write the lyrics for “Never Give In” and “Embrace the End” without Brian?

Well, they weren’t quite finished when we went into the studio [laughs]. And Brian didn’t have time to finish the vocal melody and the lyrics. So he looked at me and he was like, “You know what? Why don’t you do this? It would be really cool if you tried this.” And I was like, “Yeah!” Y’know, I’d never done that before, so I was like, “Why not?” So we were in the studio and Jason [Suecof, producer] would play the instrumental, and I just wrote on top of it. So I could take what Brian had done and just expand upon it, which was easier for me as my first sort of creative endeavor, because I didn’t know what the hell I was doing [laughs].

So to get a little more specific about those particular lyrics. You can tell me if I’m way off-base on this, but “Never Give In” seems to have something of a political undertone… or am I reading too much into that?

No, no not at all, it’s super obvious, actually [laughs]. We were in the studo in September, watching the election, and I was just getting really frustrated with it, and really pissed off that people wanted to vote for John McCain [laughs].

And you guys recorded the album in Florida, which I imagine increased your frustration…

Yep, yep. Florida is kind of… I just couldn’t figure it out. It doesn’t make any sense to me. I couldn’t figure out why people wake up and look at the situation around them and don’t want anything different, don’t want anything better than the last eight years. So there are political undertones to that song, for sure.

Can we also talk about “Embrace the End” for a sec? As far as you feel comfortable telling me, what do the lyrics to that song mean? Because you go to a pretty dark place with those lyrics…

Yeah. I don’t have trouble talking about it. Basically, death is freedom in so many ways, on so many levels. We try to fight to avoid it, but death is inevitable, and comes for all of us, and is a part of our existence just as much as life is. So…

zimmer3Have there been a lot deaths in your personal life that brought these feelings up?

Sure. I’ve definitely had to face it… it’s not something I’m afraid of at all. I mean, I’m a really positive person [laughs], I’m not super-morbid, but I definitely understand the dichotomy [between life and death]. I think I do, anyway [laughs]. And I also think that death that can be a release for a lot of people. I know that sounds weird, but… Are we getting too philosophical here? [laughs]

No, not at all. But let’s back-track for a second. You said you started singing with classical music?

Yeah, that’s true.

So what did that involve?

It’s so weird. When I was growing up, I didn’t have any exposure to metal at all. I didn’t have an older brother or anybody like that to introduce me to it, so it just never happened. And being a child of the late 80s and early 90s, the internet really wasn’t the thing then that it is now, so I never got exposed to [metal]. But I was always a singer and a performer. So I decided to go to school to learn to be a classical singer, an opera singer. And I did that, and that’s where I met Brian – he was at the same music school. We didn’t even know each other for the first couple of years [that we were at the school]. And then I was approached by some people, a completely different set of people, about singing in their metal band – that was a different band, a different band altogether. And the only metal bands I knew were Dream Theater and Tool. This is when I was about eighteen. So they exposed me to all this metal, and I was just in love. I knew from that day forward I didn’t want to do anything else, ever.

It’s cool to hear that you actually have a lot of training as a singer. It seems like we increasingly have a lot of singers who are very reliant on auto-tune and what have you…

Oh, yeah. And I’m with you man, I think that [auto-tune] is bullshit. I was really lucky to work with Jason, because he didn’t use auto-tune really at all. He knew I could do it, so he made me fucking do it [laughs]. And that’s how it should be. I was really happy that we kept the vocal tracks simple and didn’t rely on trickery.

I don’t know why people wanna rely on that stuff, anyway. I know they make rack models so you can use auto-tune live, but, seriously, wouldn’t you want your live performance to sound like the CD?

It drives me nuts when I go see a band live and the singer clearly can’t do any of the singing they did on the record.

Yeah. And there are some really bad-assed programs now that can take any shitty part you sing into the microphone and make it sound pretty good.

What about the screaming? Do you find it hard to make that shift between vocal styles?

Y’know, actually, I don’t have any trouble at all with that. I go back and forth really easily, without any issue. I’m really used to it now that we’ve band a band for a few years, I’m really accustomed to it. At first it was a little tough to wrap my head around it, mentally, because it’s really kind of the opposite of singing. But it’s actually way, way, way easier for me to do the screaming. Me, personally – I’m not saying that it’s easier for people in general, because everybody’s different. But for me, personally… if all I had to do was scream, I would be off the hook [laughs]. That would be awesome, I wouldn’t have to worry about a lot of stuff if that’s all I had to do.

Do you find that any of your training as a singer helps with the screaming aspect, or is it two completely separate techniques?

Oh, no – it’s because of my training as a singer that I can do the screams. When I first decided that I needed to learn how to do that vocal style, because it’s another color that I had to add to the palette… there were people who’d been doing it for so many years that I knew there was a way, whether those people [were conscious of the technique] or not, to do it without completely ruining your voice. And I just spent time sitting there, fucking with it, figuring out what the right technique was, and figuring out what the mechanics were. And I think I would never have been able to do it without the training that I had.

zimmer4So out on the road, do you do a lot of vocal warm-ups? Are you one of those singers who’s on vocal rest all the time?

Not really [laughs]. I try not talk too much, but I do like to have a couple of, um, beverages, so… I don’t know. It’s more important to me to keep my mental state. Like, I’ve had times where I wouldn’t even have caffeine. No beer, no booze, no caffeine, no nothing at all. I’d be like “I gotta keep my voice in shape!” And it turned out that the stress was so intense that I’d actually lose my voice. So I kinda have to not take it too seriously or I will get stressed out. And I know that everybody’s different, but for me personally, that’s how I have to roll. I have to kind of play a little bit faster and looser with it, or that stress will come back.

Right on. So what’s next for Luna Mortis?

Well, I dunno. We have a video coming out that David Brodsky directed…

How was that?

He’s great. He came out to Wisconsin, which was crazy because this is small town America. We took him out to Cory [Scheider, guitarist]’s parents’ dairy farm to see the cows, which was awesome [laughs], and we had beers… that’s just sort of the life out here, steers n’ beers [laughs].

So he filmed the video here, and we did it in… it used to be a church, but it’s a concert venue now. So it looks really cool.

And then we go on tour Edguy and Epicurean, so that’ll be sweet.

That’s all very exciting. Is there anything else you wanna add?

Nah. I think you covered it, man!

-AR


30 COMMENTS on “LUNA MORTIS’ MARY ZIMMER ON LYRICS, POLITICS, AND SINGING VERSUS SCREAMING”

  1. Sean says:

    Sooner or later musicians are going to have to bash Obama. Republicans aren’t in power anymore. Take off your rose colored glasses, it’s OK to admit he sucks as well.

  2. Brytallica says:

    Correct, both parties suck. They play for different colored teams, but in reality they push the same overall political agenda. Nothing changes, the election is just for show, like the super bowl half time show.

    • Edward Wilfred says:

      Amen, sir.

      And yeah this band isn’t that good. I thought the songs they had before they were signed were fantastic, but now that they’re signed they’re just making commercial shit.

  3. \m/Eluveitie\m/ says:

    Obama and Luna Mortis both suck

  4. cm says:

    very bad song

  5. FuckYourGayEmoHaircut says:

    “pissed off about people wanting to vote for McCain”

    yet Obama is better? This chick really needs to stop sippin the liberal coolade.

  6. joshkid says:

    great interview and great vid. It’s actually one of my least favorite songs on the album, I don’t know why they picked this one to make a vid. Well I will see them live tomorrow night with Edguy! \m/

  7. Driven9 says:

    impressively boring song.

  8. tyler09 says:

    ive been listening to Forevermore constantly…i love Luna Mortis..and their from Madison, WI which means that WI has good music

  9. nameless says:

    anyone else think this band SUCKS?

  10. Tim says:

    This gives Madison a bad name. The only two bands worth anything from this town have been gone for some time: Bongzilla and Cuda.

  11. DemonicLemming says:

    The vocals might be real but christ they’re boring. It’s more like harmonious spoken word than actual singing, which doesn’t work all that well in a power metal setting.

    And I’ll say it again – any time a musician lets politics dictate what they write or sing, they fail. Utterly and completely. Politics has no place, whatsoever, in music.

    Et aussi, no, I don’t want a live performance to sound like the fucking cd track. I go to the concert expecting the live performance to sound like a live performance – grittier, messier, and more real than what’s on the cd. I don’t want to hear a singer who can’t keep up, but I don’t want to hear a carbon copy of what’s on the cd, either – if I did, why the fuck would I go to a live show? For the traffic and inevitable beer getting spilled on me by the drunk 350lb 6′-8 linebacker? No thanks.

  12. Kill Things/ Brundlefly says:

    Wow, at least someone understand that Obamas a fucking communist. Extreme leftism is for rebellious children or those with underdeveloped brains at best. And apparently almost all musicians. And for that matter, metalsucks too, fuck you guys. haha

    • Nate says:

      are you joking? What communism has Obama been spouting? Obama isn’t even that left to begin with… Is the “communism” you’re referring to the idea of socialized health care? Let me remind you that roads and public education are already socialized, and those work pretty well, i’d say.

  13. Mark Gavin says:

    I’ve never even heard of this band but I’d like to buttfuck the lead singer

  14. -gODGRINDER- says:

    I don’t usually go for power metal vox because I hate it when dudes sound like chicks.

    But I like this band because it’s a chick who sounds like a chick.

    Plus, I will totally cop to having a creepy internet-stalker-esque crush on Mary since they were called “The Ottoman Empire.”

    So. Hot.

  15. Awful Offal Carnage says:

    “If you enjoy melodic death-tinged power metal – and really, who doesn’t?”

    I don’t. Seriously. Fuck Power Metal. If I wanted to hear about “dragons” and “fairies” and “fire and flames”, I’d play D&D, or read fantasy novels. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I admit, the lead singer is very talented, as is the band as a whole, but power metal ain’t my thing. In my experience, anyone associated with power metal is a overweight WoW playing, neckbeard. Nothing wrong with WoW, but chop the neckbeard and lose some pounds.

    Also, I don’t know if it’s just this song, but this song wasn’t even “tinged” with death metal. She screamed at the end for like 10 seconds, and while it was good (sounded similiar to Angela Gossow, so much better than the IWABO vocalist), it’s still power metal.

  16. Great band form Kenosha. Thanks for finally covering a GOOD local band from my hometown instead of all of the Chicago deathcore bands (Born of Osiris, Oceano, Veil of Maya) for once in your lives.

  17. RJMrgn says:

    Not having heard of this lot before, I checked out the video, and reached the following conclusions:

    • Musically, it sounds like a third-rate skatepunk band from about 1998 with some flashy guitar overdubs
    • Vocally, it was competent but incredibly boring – really not what I was expecting having read the interview

    Really didn’t do it for me, which is a shame, as I kinda wanted to like the band with the pretty lady in it.

  18. Ryan Black says:

    My band had a show with these guys but it got cancelled for some strange reason (probably the promoter). It was probably 2-3 months ago in Fort Wayne, IN. I was pretty excited about it

  19. Keeperofthe7keys says:

    I happen to think this band is fucking awesome!!! i appreciate the fact that they don;t use alot of studio trickery which is very apparent in a band such as……..the agonist…..and maybe in time they will do a blondie cover, lol, but in the mean time rock the fuck out!!

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