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AXL ROSENBERG SHOULD JUST GO JOIN WAKING THE CADAVER

 Friday, September 18th, 2009 at 11:30am by

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If you read this site regularly, then you’re probably aware that we are constantly confused by the difference between wigger slam and deathcore. Even after our own Satan Rosenbloom explained it to me and I spent time listening to bands that Metal Inquistion‘s Sergeant D and Decibel agree are slam bands, I still can’t really tell the difference. At the risk of sounding like my old man, I really just can’t hear much difference between Devourment and Oceano. Sorry.

Luckily, the aforementioned Sergeant D – pretty much metal’s leading authority on wigger slam – has discovered a joke slam band band, Slamburglars, and in a Metal Inquisition interview, we get both name dropped and educated in the differences between the two genres:

The guys over at MetalSucks are old and out of touch. They don’t see the difference between deathcore and wigger slam. I’m sure you’ll agree that, say, Suicide Silence and Infernal Revulsion couldn’t be more different, so can you explain it to them here, just so they know?

I could write a fucking book about this topic. Deathcore is death metal influenced metalcore. Metalcore fans are sissies (obviously) therefore deathcore fans are sissies. Wigger Slam is wigger influenced Slam Death Metal. Wiggers are sissies (obviously) but they steal parts of African-American culture in an attempt to hide that fact. They must not know shit about music. Deathcore is centered around “breakdowns”, which are generally mono-tone staccato patterns of sixteenth notes, showing rhythmic variation contrary to melodic variation. Wigger Slam is centered around “slams”, which are simplified breakdowns which usually consist of a combination of quarter notes and eighth notes and usually only utilize the first 4 frets of the guitar. Old-school style slams, such as those of Dying Fetus, Soils of Fate, and Internal Bleeding, often have melody and sometimes are in major keys. If you still don’t get it, then you should just go join Waking The Cadaver.

Ohhh- kay… so deathcore is centered around breakdowns, and wigger slam is centered around “slams,” which are… simplified, allegedly more melodic breakdowns. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up, wigga.

I guess I’ll post my tour schedule as the latest member of Waking the Cadaver when I get it.

Read the rest of the interview here.

-AR

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jesse-Menard/502061034 Jesse Menard

    hahaha nice

    • Chase

      Ocean is Black Chappel

  • Sean

    Do we really need subgenres of breakdowns? How much more categorization could we possibly add …

    • TheDonOfCacophony

      You could have a subgenre of the 12 diferent bands that use an Am chord on the sixteenth bar on the third beat while the bass is hitting the root note and the drums are playing…

      …Yeah you get the point. Fuck subgenres.

  • Canvas Of Flesh

    I agree with the statement that people who like metalcore are sissies.

    • S for Shoota

      That’s what it basically comes down to.

    • upyours

      how about everyone who likes death metal is a douche bag creeper puss sac waste of life who hates everyone because they are losers who hate on successful metal bands who are less extreme (yes as much as you don’t like it metalcore is metal…so get used to it…it might get you some someday)

      • derich2

        I spy a troll

      • Sam

        How about you suck a cock because you like lame mediocre metal(metalcore). Death Metal is still the shit. Look at Suffocation or Cephalic Carnage. Or even Nile. Great bands!! So don’t shit on Death Metal because its too heavy for your ears & you’re a fuckin’ panzy.

  • Fufkin

    On the one hand there’s something very funny about it all.

    On the other hand it’s an absolute tragedy.

    • Driven9

      1

  • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

    Most heavy shit i listen to, i kinda look forward to a good breakdown;however- this comical dissection of GAY- core vs socially inept white kids who think they’re tough-core kinda ruins the fun of it.

    Exhorder- I am The Cross, best fucking breakdown ever written.

  • d00shc00gr

    …I like Waking the Cadaver… they suck, but like… they suck in new ways I hadn’t headr before… so in a way it’s kinda cool!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kasper-Maigaard/1027001938 Kasper Maigaard

    What the fuck… Wigger Slam is an actual subgenre? I thought it was a term made to mock some kinda guitarsound that a lot of sissy bands produce oftenly! I had a clear vision in my head; like “Wagga-Waaaaouw” or something.

    • metalguy

      i honestly thought wigger slam was a deragstory term for terrible deathcore bands who think their black

      • Kevin

        But what about the deathcore bands that have black people in it them???
        I am confused..

    • DaylightReckoning

      Some bands are wholeheartedly embracing the term “crabcore” and are even marketing themselves as such. Why wouldn’t “wigger slam” get the same treatment? The practicioners of both are pretty much on the same levels of intelligence.

  • Ziltoid

    Waking the Cadaver is br00tal stuff, yo.

    • Nate

      ZILTOID!! You’re back!!

      • lkgf09

        SHREDDED WHEAT

  • joshkid

    Axl come to NY! Are you gonna headline the tour? For support you can take out Winds of Plague, Holywood Undead and last but not least Attack Attack! therefore catering to multiple diverse fans in every city!!!

    • http://www.myspace.com/ihopeyourot DemiGod

      The pathetic part is this whole tour would fucking sell out.
      And none of the people that came to watch would be legal to drink.
      …or smoke.

      • joshkid

        word. …and there would be some major ninja assholes

        • metalguy

          and so much hair would be flipped to the right that the venue would tip

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            And dont forget the flat brimmed hats OHHHH the flat brimed hats.

    • http://themetalinquisition.com Sergeant D

      This is basically my dream tour come true, especially if you added Forever The Sickest Kids or Cash Cash

  • fasshole

    i am extremely confused

  • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

    He actually said “br00tal”……..wow.

  • Sammy

    Or another analogy: One is shit that was created by eating a heavy protein/low carbohydrate diet, with the consistency of silly putty and a pungent, sour odor; and the other is shit that was created by eating a high sugar/high fat diet, with the consistency of rotting spinach and a strong, malignant odor.

  • Nate

    What’s funny is that they both STILL suck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Shaw/617521768 Jason Shaw

    WIGGER SLAM? Are you serious? Really? I hate all of you. Anyone who lowers themselves to using the words “wigger, rhino, crab” or “core” (core basically because none of you know how to use the term properly) when talking about metal needs to check themselves. You dumb motherfuckers. You all talk about what isn’t metal way more than what is. Why are you so fucking stupid? Represent metal with dignity, not like Blender or Revolver magazine. FUCK YOU

    • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

      You nailed it dude.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wesley-Vinson/1089835356 Wesley Vinson

        You might wanna add bro-core to that list too.

  • B-dizzle

    How in the hell can one not tell the difference between Gayceano and Devourment

  • jason

    You better check yourself before you subsequently wreck yourself.

  • Adam

    Despite not having listened to ANY of the deathcore/wiggerslam bands posted about here (except a couple of the shitstain video posts and maybe ONE waking the cadaver video) this description DOES actually help me mentalize it better.

    There was a phase I went through where I would buy any cd with breakdowns, but then I realized that very few bands that have breakdowns in more than like 2 songs are all that good. Then I proceeded to sell alot of CDs to deju vu discs.

  • Jake

    This topic should stop and everyone should just go listen to Bloodbath.

  • Sandwiches

    ^^^^ agreed

  • Metrognome

    Deathcore = death metal influenced metalcore
    Wigger Slam = deathcore you don’t like

    Pretty simple.

    • blow me

      Let’s make all categorization easier. Quite frankly it is all pretty fucking stupid anyway.

      Two Categories:

      Metal = shit you like

      Not Metal = shit

  • john phenomenon

    dude why has no one mentioned how great slamburglars are???

    actually brings the lols.

  • Sam

    Let’s run with this! Let’s make wigger slam a new genre!! Who’s with me!?! To be honest, I can’t tell the difference between metalcore, deathcore, & wigger slam!?! Can you?

    • Matthew Grant Anson

      I don’t know or give a shit what wigger slam is, but you can’t tell the difference between deathcore and metalcore?

      • Sam

        Nope, not much difference there. To be honest, I truly don’t care that much & I really haven’t excepted deathcore as a real genre. Metalcore=deathcore. One in the same.

    • http://metalinquisition.com SergeantD

      Dude… people have been using wigger slam as a legit genre for well over a year. It’s not really “new”

  • jonowev

    Not that related… but i’m seeing Waking the Cadaver on a tour with Earth Crisis on Wednesday. Looking forward to it for the “bro0t4l lolz”..

  • dick johnson

    the bass drops on the slamburglars album are fkin brutal

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barry-Gilpin/791554842 Barry Gilpin

    There’s only two categories of music for me. Good, or shit. Doesn’t matter what bullshit sub-genre they call it. If it blows, it blows, and that works the other way too.

  • http://myspace.com/theslamburglars John Lucci

    ALL YALL BITCHEZ BE$T NOT BE HATIN ON THA TRU WIGGA $LAM. YALL BETTAH BACDAFUKUPORGETSMACKEDTHAFUKUP. YALL BITCHES AINT SHIT. FIGHT US ON MYSPACE IF YA GOT REAL BALLZ. CHECK YOSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOSELF. AND TO ALL THA HOMIEZ KEEP REPPIN DAT SHIT FO LIFE.

  • http://jas09.deviantart.com/ JAS09

    OK, let’s break it down:
    Metalcore-Metal guitar riffs with hardcore punk breakdowns
    Deathcore-Metalcore with death grunts and occasional pg squeals
    Wigger Slam-deathcore with lots of pig squeals-usually used to cover up lyrical ineptitude-played by bands who dress in a wigger fashion.
    Is that good enough?

  • Cam

    another point is that it is possible for people to like slam and not like deathcore:
    Proof why scene kids and deathcore are shit, and why real slam death metal and its fans shouldn’t be so persecuted:
    http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+love+Slam+Death+Metal+and+fucking+hate+Deathcore

    • Cam

      Shit, my first post didnt work.

      Right, this mis labelling and confusion is becoming fucking drama.

      Wigger slam is a term which was originally used to describe overly groovy slamming brutal death metal bands. Slam has been around since the early 90s, it’s not new, it’s not trendy, it’s just a subgenre of Brutal Death Metal, Slam is essentially Brutal Death Metal that uses slow, chromatic, palm muted riffs in a rhythmic pattern usually using quarter or 8th notes, and sometimes swing or syncopation. Real Slam death metal bands don’t want to be associated with deathcore bands because deathcore is fucking terrible, weak music, and scene kids are little pricks. If WTC never came around claiming to be slam, slam would have never become the centre of everyones’ attention. It is so easy to tell the difference between Slam and Deathcore, Slam is just Death Metal, nothing else, listen to Bring Me the Horizon then listen to Vomit the Soul – huge difference. We don’t slam for the sake of it, unlike deathcore, we use them tactically, although I don’t speak for every slam death metal band.

      Don’t fucking tarnish the name of our music by saying we’re the same as Deathcore, it’s just plain fucking offensive, it seems that everyone formed their opinions by listening to the shitty “wigger” slam bands and not listening to the real Slamming Brutal Death Metal bands