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		<title>By: wackomann</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/18/teargarden-by-kaleidyscope-its-like-a-koala-bear-crapped-a-rainbow-in-my-brain/#comment-310715</link>
		<dc:creator>wackomann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is total out-of-date comment fail, but...

Stimutacs or Gleemonex?</description>
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<p>Stimutacs or Gleemonex?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Threadgate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Threadgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool song Drown, Singles soundtrack.

that is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool song Drown, Singles soundtrack.</p>
<p>that is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Damotello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damotello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s brown drink it down, if it&#039;s black send it back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s brown drink it down, if it&#8217;s black send it back!</p>
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		<title>By: ThisIsNecessary</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/18/teargarden-by-kaleidyscope-its-like-a-koala-bear-crapped-a-rainbow-in-my-brain/#comment-306124</link>
		<dc:creator>ThisIsNecessary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A walk-in humidor!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A walk-in humidor!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kingheadcrab</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingheadcrab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay, sealab bitches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay, sealab bitches</p>
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		<title>By: CYN1C</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/18/teargarden-by-kaleidyscope-its-like-a-koala-bear-crapped-a-rainbow-in-my-brain/#comment-306053</link>
		<dc:creator>CYN1C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this here?

More importantly, why does this guy keep writing at MS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this here?</p>
<p>More importantly, why does this guy keep writing at MS?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courntey is a fine and misunders...........

HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courntey is a fine and misunders&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if that were corgan, he&#039;d regret ever fucking courtney love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if that were corgan, he&#8217;d regret ever fucking courtney love.</p>
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		<title>By: thejamminjabber</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/18/teargarden-by-kaleidyscope-its-like-a-koala-bear-crapped-a-rainbow-in-my-brain/#comment-305971</link>
		<dc:creator>thejamminjabber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. Silly Billy doesn&#039;t deserve my respect. He&#039;s done nothing to earn it. Just because he&#039;s in a band a lot of people like doesn&#039;t mean I have to kiss his ass. I like plenty of his music, but dude is a colossal douche and thinks way too highly of himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. Silly Billy doesn&#8217;t deserve my respect. He&#8217;s done nothing to earn it. Just because he&#8217;s in a band a lot of people like doesn&#8217;t mean I have to kiss his ass. I like plenty of his music, but dude is a colossal douche and thinks way too highly of himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Outdoorsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urban Outdoorsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhh Fucking unbelievable how many douchebags comment on here with retarded Points of view. Obnoxious. If you dont at least respect Billy Corgan youre a fucking idiot. Theyre one of thoses bands that when you here you immediately know who it is even if youve never heard the song before. You dont have to ask, you just know by Corgan&#039;s voice. If not for the gigantic, fucking hiatus they went on they would be much bigger than they are.   And as for you idiots who comment on their radio songs....get a fucking clue. The fact that they have radio played songs without a doubt works to the idea of how great they are.  People bitch when bands sound different and bitch when they fall inline and go mainstream. What the fuck do you want? Id rather make some mainstream shit and make a good living then make a bunch of pissed off underground tracks that all sound the same and never make a name for myself. Fucking constant pissing and moaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhh Fucking unbelievable how many douchebags comment on here with retarded Points of view. Obnoxious. If you dont at least respect Billy Corgan youre a fucking idiot. Theyre one of thoses bands that when you here you immediately know who it is even if youve never heard the song before. You dont have to ask, you just know by Corgan&#8217;s voice. If not for the gigantic, fucking hiatus they went on they would be much bigger than they are.   And as for you idiots who comment on their radio songs&#8230;.get a fucking clue. The fact that they have radio played songs without a doubt works to the idea of how great they are.  People bitch when bands sound different and bitch when they fall inline and go mainstream. What the fuck do you want? Id rather make some mainstream shit and make a good living then make a bunch of pissed off underground tracks that all sound the same and never make a name for myself. Fucking constant pissing and moaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/18/teargarden-by-kaleidyscope-its-like-a-koala-bear-crapped-a-rainbow-in-my-brain/#comment-305947</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huge Smashing Pumpkins fan for many years, despite the litany of dissapointments (Adore, half of Machina, breaking up, the shittiness that was Zwan, 2/3rds of Zeitgiest).  I was obsessed with them for many years.

I saw them live in 2007 and they put on a great show - long and deep sets, and the best lighting rigs I&#039;ve ever seen.

I&#039;ve been waiting for Corgan to get his fury back - the guy can play his ass off, and has a wicked scream, but oversimplified riffs and autotune seem to be his modus operandi at this moment.  And his attitude of the cross-bearing rock and roll mascot is beyond tired.

In the meantime, for me, Coheed and Cambria swooped in and filled the void of earnest, somewhat annoyingly-voiced concept rock.  They&#039;re infinitely better musicians, they&#039;ve long had the prog and well-established concept elements that Corgan only half-assedly reached for in more recent years, and perhaps most importantly, they don&#039;t seem to have open contempt for their fans.  Listening back to SP seems utterly infantile now.  It&#039;s like watching old cartoons you loved as a kid, only to find that they haven&#039;t held up too well with age, and a feeling of disillusionment follows.

Unless the new shit is astoundingly good, furious and heavy, I don&#039;t forsee any kind of Smashing Pumpkins resurgence whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge Smashing Pumpkins fan for many years, despite the litany of dissapointments (Adore, half of Machina, breaking up, the shittiness that was Zwan, 2/3rds of Zeitgiest).  I was obsessed with them for many years.</p>
<p>I saw them live in 2007 and they put on a great show &#8211; long and deep sets, and the best lighting rigs I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been waiting for Corgan to get his fury back &#8211; the guy can play his ass off, and has a wicked scream, but oversimplified riffs and autotune seem to be his modus operandi at this moment.  And his attitude of the cross-bearing rock and roll mascot is beyond tired.</p>
<p>In the meantime, for me, Coheed and Cambria swooped in and filled the void of earnest, somewhat annoyingly-voiced concept rock.  They&#8217;re infinitely better musicians, they&#8217;ve long had the prog and well-established concept elements that Corgan only half-assedly reached for in more recent years, and perhaps most importantly, they don&#8217;t seem to have open contempt for their fans.  Listening back to SP seems utterly infantile now.  It&#8217;s like watching old cartoons you loved as a kid, only to find that they haven&#8217;t held up too well with age, and a feeling of disillusionment follows.</p>
<p>Unless the new shit is astoundingly good, furious and heavy, I don&#8217;t forsee any kind of Smashing Pumpkins resurgence whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re Billy Corgan aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re Billy Corgan aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yeah, words........words..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah, words&#8230;&#8230;..words&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Pumpkins fan from the first time I saw the video for I Am One on 120 minutes. 

I loved all their early albums.Gish is still one of my favorite albums of all time and Siamese Dream was pretty much the defining record for the early post-grunge era. Hole&#039;s Live Through This might as well been another great Pumpkins record as Billy wrote almost the whole damn thing himself. Courtney Love actually was a good creative partner on that record too, which added to it&#039;s success I think. Mellon Collie is probably one of the best concept albums ever made. Adore is another great, underrated album. Then they started to lose the thing that made them so great from the beginning: melody and musicianship.

Where you can argue that it has always been Billy&#039;s band, D&#039;arcy, James and Jimmy were a great creative filter for Billy. They kept him on track and the band making awesome music together. D&#039;arcy and James bolted and Jimmy killed their keyboard layer (in so many words). It was pretty much a recipe for creative disaster. While I really liked Machina, it didn&#039;t really feel like a Pumpkins record. It had some good, heavy tracks, but the melody and the complex, layered guitars were absent. I can understand that Billy was probably looking to evolve the sound, but he lost what made them so great.
 
I enjoyed the Zwan side project and got to see them live. In typical Corgan fashion, the show was fantastic and his playing was phenomenal. It was like a creative release for him, he got the garage band sound, the rawness, the back to basics out of his system. The whole band contributed to the creative process. 

So with Zeitgeist, I totally expected a return to form, but was a bit disappointed. While I like the album, on the whole, it&#039;s definitely the band&#039;s weakest release to date. There were some signs of the old Pumpkins in there, the screeching vocals, some of the guitar work, but it lacked the spirit of the old band. So it&#039;s tough to be optimistic about the new stuff. I think the young kid on drums will be good for Billy. A little youthful spirit. The new guitar and bass players are totally interchangeable with a million other players out there though, which is something D&#039;arcy and James were not. Their musicianship aside, they kept Billy grounded and in check. When he&#039;s free to run wild and make all the decisions, the music suffers. Billy&#039;s solo album was god awful. He&#039;s an extremely talented musician and he CAN be a great songwriter, but he needs competent musicians around him to keep him on track creatively. Billy seems to have turned into a greedy, sullen old egotistical maniac. Calling your fans onstage to berate them? Telling fans who want an encore &quot;If you wanted to hear more music, you should have bought the fucking album&quot;? I mean what the fuck can he possibly expect? He never once thought maybe people just didn&#039;t like the album. Maybe his audience left him. Now he&#039;s got to get them back. 

While I really want the new material to be great, I&#039;m not terribly optimistic. I hope Billy proves me wrong. I mean seriously, kick ass new Alice in Chains material and (what I hope to be) great new Pumpkins stuff, how awesome could the next few months potentially be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Pumpkins fan from the first time I saw the video for I Am One on 120 minutes. </p>
<p>I loved all their early albums.Gish is still one of my favorite albums of all time and Siamese Dream was pretty much the defining record for the early post-grunge era. Hole&#8217;s Live Through This might as well been another great Pumpkins record as Billy wrote almost the whole damn thing himself. Courtney Love actually was a good creative partner on that record too, which added to it&#8217;s success I think. Mellon Collie is probably one of the best concept albums ever made. Adore is another great, underrated album. Then they started to lose the thing that made them so great from the beginning: melody and musicianship.</p>
<p>Where you can argue that it has always been Billy&#8217;s band, D&#8217;arcy, James and Jimmy were a great creative filter for Billy. They kept him on track and the band making awesome music together. D&#8217;arcy and James bolted and Jimmy killed their keyboard layer (in so many words). It was pretty much a recipe for creative disaster. While I really liked Machina, it didn&#8217;t really feel like a Pumpkins record. It had some good, heavy tracks, but the melody and the complex, layered guitars were absent. I can understand that Billy was probably looking to evolve the sound, but he lost what made them so great.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the Zwan side project and got to see them live. In typical Corgan fashion, the show was fantastic and his playing was phenomenal. It was like a creative release for him, he got the garage band sound, the rawness, the back to basics out of his system. The whole band contributed to the creative process. </p>
<p>So with Zeitgeist, I totally expected a return to form, but was a bit disappointed. While I like the album, on the whole, it&#8217;s definitely the band&#8217;s weakest release to date. There were some signs of the old Pumpkins in there, the screeching vocals, some of the guitar work, but it lacked the spirit of the old band. So it&#8217;s tough to be optimistic about the new stuff. I think the young kid on drums will be good for Billy. A little youthful spirit. The new guitar and bass players are totally interchangeable with a million other players out there though, which is something D&#8217;arcy and James were not. Their musicianship aside, they kept Billy grounded and in check. When he&#8217;s free to run wild and make all the decisions, the music suffers. Billy&#8217;s solo album was god awful. He&#8217;s an extremely talented musician and he CAN be a great songwriter, but he needs competent musicians around him to keep him on track creatively. Billy seems to have turned into a greedy, sullen old egotistical maniac. Calling your fans onstage to berate them? Telling fans who want an encore &#8220;If you wanted to hear more music, you should have bought the fucking album&#8221;? I mean what the fuck can he possibly expect? He never once thought maybe people just didn&#8217;t like the album. Maybe his audience left him. Now he&#8217;s got to get them back. </p>
<p>While I really want the new material to be great, I&#8217;m not terribly optimistic. I hope Billy proves me wrong. I mean seriously, kick ass new Alice in Chains material and (what I hope to be) great new Pumpkins stuff, how awesome could the next few months potentially be?</p>
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		<title>By: thejamminjabber</title>
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		<dc:creator>thejamminjabber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little Billy obviously doesn’t understand the concept of quality over quantity.

http://thejamminjabber.com/2009/09/17/billy-corgan-obviously-doesnt-understand-the-concept-of-quality-over-quantity/</description>
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		<title>By: braincake</title>
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		<dc:creator>braincake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nothing good since gish and siamese dream.</description>
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		<title>By: NoCowNoFood</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoCowNoFood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with  fightingmike whatever is free its free.. I actually admire Corgan for keeping the SP flag high after all these years however I guess I would change the name of  the band because of the new members</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with  fightingmike whatever is free its free.. I actually admire Corgan for keeping the SP flag high after all these years however I guess I would change the name of  the band because of the new members</p>
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		<title>By: fightingmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>fightingmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Billy is a great songwriter and i think some of his best songs are his mellower, folky ones, like from the Spun soundtrack.  I dont think any new rockin songs will be the same without Jimmy, but i will totally download the stuff for free!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Billy is a great songwriter and i think some of his best songs are his mellower, folky ones, like from the Spun soundtrack.  I dont think any new rockin songs will be the same without Jimmy, but i will totally download the stuff for free!!!</p>
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		<title>By: zhitnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>zhitnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t care much about the article, but I just wanted to say nice Sealab 2021 reference in the title...love that show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t care much about the article, but I just wanted to say nice Sealab 2021 reference in the title&#8230;love that show.</p>
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		<title>By: Driven9</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/18/teargarden-by-kaleidyscope-its-like-a-koala-bear-crapped-a-rainbow-in-my-brain/#comment-305757</link>
		<dc:creator>Driven9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could really care less.  I think theres something to be said about a band whos best songs were the ones played on the radio. OVERRATED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could really care less.  I think theres something to be said about a band whos best songs were the ones played on the radio. OVERRATED</p>
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