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“PUNK’S NOT DEAD…”

 Friday, September 25th, 2009 at 2:01pm by

ed hardy punk shirt“… so we’ll celebrate by charging $154 for an ugly t-shirt made by teens in a sweat-shop in Taiwan, to be worn by privileged suburban white males who wear supposed ‘punk’ clothing as a badge of identity.” – Ed Hardy [via Metal Insider]

Punk is officially dead.

-VN

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  • No Name No Slogan

    Nail in the coffin.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/groverXIII groverXIII

    Wow… that’s just fucking hideous.

    To everyone who wears Ed Hardy shirts: your shirts are not punk, not edgy, and not cool.

    • loose nut

      thanks for stating the obvious, sir.

      • http://www.last.fm/user/groverXIII groverXIII

        It’s what I do.

  • HazeFace

    Vince…you hit the nail right on the head…” true Punk” has been dead for many many years.

    • loose nut

      large amounts of bullshit detected.

  • Sammy

    Hey, but the shipping is free, so they got that goin’ for ‘em.

  • This Shit Sucks

    punk is officially dead thanks to ed hardy. fuckin’ prick.

    • vasteburai

      ed hardy does not OWN ed hardy designs…he sold it to a fashion chick. ed is still cool. punk won’t die until H.R. dies

      • John

        Most educated opinion yet.

      • stu1

        The designer is male.

  • Sammy

    P.S., if you pay $154 for a tee shirt, karma should dictate that you die in a horrible, single car accident whilst wearing it.

  • Kuranes
  • HazeFace

    Oh yeah and that t-shrit is beyond lame…I wound never wear that,even if it was on the 50 cent rack at Walmart….which is where it looks like it came from anyways.

  • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

    As long as John Lydon is doing butter advertisements, punk will live on.

  • Matt

    All of Ed HArdy shirts are just as many colors as possible on a shirt that doesn’t match, it’s retarded

  • d00shc00gr

    Does the Tegan & Sara metal shirt mean that metal is dead? I don’t think so. Punk’s not dead, merely exploited. You can’t kill punk because it’s a mindset first and a lifestyle second. As long as there are people truly thinking for themselves and working against the grain there will always be punk. As long as there are poor, homeless, hopeless white kids with no future there will always be punk.

    • d00shc00gr

      That said, this t shirt sucks mohawked balls and so does suburban america

    • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

      “As long as there are poor, homeless, hopeless white kids with no future there will always be punk.”

      So if a punk buys a mobile home, he becomes a Juggalo?

    • http://www.last.fm/user/groverXIII groverXIII

      I would think that the lack of real punk bands would mean that punk is dead. I mean, really, when’s the last time you heard a good album by a new punk band? I’d wager it’s been a while. The only good punk music being made right now is by guys who are getting too old for punk music (see the latest albums by Bad Religion, Pennywise, and NOFX).

      • http://pandasdestroy.com Greg

        “As long as there are poor, homeless, hopeless white kids with no future there will always be punk.”

        Maybe I’m getting too old, but I don’t remember punk being a “white” thing.

      • http://pandasdestroy.com Greg

        “when’s the last time you heard a good album by a new punk band?”

        Against Me
        Bomb The Music Industry
        1994
        Andrew Jackson Jihad

        And those were just today.

        • John

          Tragedy.. all of their records.

        • stu1

          I hate all of those acts except for 1994 who I’ve never heard of.

      • stu1

        And those bands aren’t “good” anymore.
        Gallows comes to mind as a good new band.

      • kylemurder

        Leftover Crack

        • stu1

          Absolute garbage.

    • http://www.myspace.com/uglydirge aaron m.

      get over yourself, you fucking tool. punk’s just a genre of music. they just told you that it was a fucking lifestyle so you would buy t-shirts & albums over at the merch booth.

      • John

        You’re an idiot.

        • http://www.myspace.com/uglydirge aaron m.

          keep on buying those t-shirts & 7 inches. i am sure that they keep you warm at night.

          • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

            Most true punks burn that stuff in garbage cans at night to literally keep warm, so you may be more right than you know.

          • http://www.myspace.com/uglydirge aaron m.

            truthfully, man, i actually like hearing when people refer to punk as a “lifestyle” because it lets me know how big of an idiot they are.

          • John

            My girlfriend actually does a pretty good job of that.

      • stu1

        “Punk” is ACTUALLY a lifestyle that you probably have no idea about. And it certainly doesn’t involve dumpster diving.

  • cosk!

    that t shirt is the biggest fucking oxymoron ever. and ugly.

  • gw43

    hey, punks not dead, it just sold out
    and ya that almost made me sick, jocks with mini bleached blonde mohawks, white belts and white sunglasses wearing an exploited shirt? kill all of us now,

    • CrapMcPoopin

      Punk didn’t sell out. Punk is counter culture, and the ideology of it spits in the face of the norm. So what do you do to something that is counter culture? You appropriate it, brand it, and turn it into a way to make money.

      It is the old addage, if you can’t beat them… join them. Or in this case, if you can’t beat them, steal their ideas and sell them back to their kids.

  • http://www.wxeg.com/pages/metalshop.html Vinnie

    I’ll bet this design was conceived by Jon Gosselin. Isn’t he friends with the guy who makes this shit?

  • http://www.solidsterecords.com NoCowNoFood

    Horrible.. that shirt sucks ass by the way wearing my EveryTime I Die shirt at work makes me less punk?

  • HazeFace

    ok true, Punk does come from a “real place”…individuals (of any color or creed I might add) who make it on their own terms….so with that said… “Punk” is not dead. Its just exploited and marketed to death.

  • Chad E. Death

    Was Punk ever really alive?

    • canea

      exactly.

    • stu1

      Absolutely.

  • http://myspace.com/arsonyva Punch Drunk Blood

    HOLY SHIT I SAW A KID WEARING THIS SWEATSHIRT!!!!! I had the exact same reaction as you haha, yes it does mean punk is dead

  • John

    This shirt is stupid. But punk isn’t dead, as long as there are house shows and diy bands touring and making nothing for the love to spreading their ideas, punk can’t die.

    • stu1

      bingo

  • metalguy

    the worst part is: the dick buying this shirt will assume punk means green day

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Cefaratti/542463984 Chris Cefaratti

      As well as have a horrible tan and a faux hawk, I’m looking at you New Jersey & Long Island

  • bearbomb

    I hate this fucking clothing line! All the color schemes look like they were picked out by a third grader.

    Still better than Affliction shit though.

  • Pat

    Died the day hipsters and metalheads started donning fake Norman Collins flash tats.

  • Dave

    Punk died with Sid.

    • stu1

      suuuure

    • metalguy

      sid never performed on a sex pistols album. the music didnt die with him, but true punks popularity might have

  • jason

    Maybe I’m just wound too tight, but that shit is fucking infuriating. Anyone caught wearing this should be promptly smashed in the head with a brick.

  • Burton C. Bell’s Forehead

    Looks just like a regular £15 shirt to me. No clothing line is prestigous/big enough to be chargine that much for such a cheap looking shirt.

  • ank0ku

    Oh my god I saw this on the street the other day. What a fuckin joke.

  • http://www.myspace.com/uglydirge aaron m.

    truthfully, i think ripping dumb kids off is punk as fuck.

  • Watson

    I used to go more with Dead Kennedy’s “punks not dead, it just deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon”.

    Well, that happened long ago. So yeah, punk is dead, rotted and fucked by bugs.

    • stu1

      With jello as the first participant.

  • http://www.welovemetal.com We Love Metal

    Didn’t punk die when Greenday signed up to make a broadway musical

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason Crispen

    punks been dead for a while. when you can go to walmart and get dyes and gels to set up your liberty spike, it’s not a good sign. looking like that is “really” rebelious. and you’ll look really unique too, just like the 5 billion other assholes who do it. it’d be more “punk rock” to wear a 3 piece suit on stage and write music that consisted of more than 3 chords.

  • SourDeez

    It’s too bad that trends have to ruin cool shit. I’ve been wearing Ed Hardy shoes for a while. I only pay 30 bucks for them, and they have some very cool artwork. Unfortunately, tons of people who know nothing about rock and roll wear Ed Hardy shit to be “ironic”, thus making me look like one of those people just because I PERSONALLY like the designs. It’s too bad. Trends ruin individuality.

    • stu1

      You lose, big time.

  • Ryan

    haha. nothing could more perfectly express the death of punk than designer expensive garbage saying punks not dead. the irony is delicious

  • Gossamer Axe

    The real question shouldn’t be whether punk is dead or not…

    Who in their right or wrong mind, would pay $157 for a tshirt?

  • http://myspace.com/biosyn teaches_of_peaches

    Holy shit, did Captain Obvious start writing for this site?

  • bittercold

    to steal a line from George Carlin, fuck whoever designed that shirt. fuck ‘em in the ass with a big rubber dick. then break it off and beat them with the rest of it.

    do the same for anyone you come across wearing that abomination as well.

    • Sammy

      Except that Carlin, in the decade before his death, sold his soul to network TV and cheesy long distance advertising.

      • The Goat

        But in one of his stand-ups he makes lite of it by saying “well you just gotta figure that shit out for yourself!”

        Oh, BTW Dennis Learey is selling trucks

        • Sven

          Denis Leary never did “Shining Time Station”

          • RobotScythe

            Denis Leary just stole Bill Hicks material like a fiend. ABout 75% of his “No Cure For Cancer” album is Hicks material.

            And Carlin did those commercials because he owed the IRS big-time.

  • BigJoe

    God I sure wish ‘mall punk’ would die! It’s hard to find good punk these days because fucking Disney Channel bands such as Green Day, Blink-182, Good Charlotte, etc… drowns all of the good underground bands out.

    Punk is as diverse as a genre as metal I suppose. There are great (relatively) new punk bands out there: The Forgotten, Time Again, Authority Zero, The Victims, Vivian Girls & The Pains of Being Pure at Heart (if you consider Ramones punk), Goes Cube, Ida Maria, Marked Men, Dillinger Four, Scars on Broadway, Tiger Army, The Automatic Automatic, No Age, Streetlight Manifesto.

    I’d also consider two more great bands, Disfear & Torche more punk then metal since they borrow heavily (in a good way) from the D-beat sound of Discharge.

    • stu1

      You sort of seem to have a clue, but it’s really off base.
      1) none of those bands are ACTUALLY disney bands, but there are plenty out there. GC isn’t even really active anymore I don’t think. But, how do they drown out the underground? I know of hundreds of other well known punk acts out there.
      2) yes, it’s a super diverse genre, with many subgenres, many of which cross into metal.
      3) Forgotten are at least 10 years old and have already seen their “hey day.” Time Again is a cheap Rancid knock off. Authority Zero were a major label NOFXish type band who are enjoying minimal success on an indie, Victims (if we’re speaking of the same act) are great, Vivian girls are KINDA punk,Goes Cube aren’t punk at all; they’re a straight up post hardcore band. Don’t know Ida maria. Marked Men are a very cool garagy punk band. Dillinger Four have been around for almost 15 years and their best albums are way behind them. It’s like siting Anthrax as one of the best metal bands today. Scars On Broadway I’m not that familiar with but was never that motivated to check out to be honest. Tiger Army, again, another band who’s been around for a decade whose work is certainly up for appraisal and is barely even together at this point. But, they were definitely in the “mainstream” to some extent. Don’t know Automatic x2. No Age isn’t a punk band. They are in the real loose definition and that’s it. Streetlight are a GARBAGE ska-punk band riding off the success the singer had in his previous band. Not good.
      As for Disfear and Torche, two bands I like a lot: Disfear are obviously part of the “d beat” thing, thus their name. However, to say Torche have ANYTHING near a “d beat” sound in them is totally and completely off base. Do you KNOW what “d beat” is or have you ever heard Torche??? Holy shit you are way fucking off.

      • BigJoe

        Thanks Stu1! I didn’t realize my little half-assed post would elicit such a response!! Perhaps it was somewhat lazy. Admittedly I don’t research every band I listen to. I am just trying to point out was that there are some great ‘punk rock’ bands out there to get excited about. Punk is not dead. A few notes…

        1) I didn’t literally mean that Blink/GD/GC were Disney bands. I just meant that they sound like them.
        2) What I meant by drowning out the underground is that the second a Blink/GD/GC disc is released, they receive heavy radio airplay, print coverage, etc… Not true for the other bands I listed, although they are deserving of such exposure. Good underground punk bands don’t have a chance.
        3) I was unaware that Forgotten/Dillinger 4/Tiger Army had been around that long, so thanks for that info.
        4) Tiger Army is very much still together. They had put out a pretty good disc in 07’ and still tour today.
        5) I’m not too excited about labels. Goes Cube sounds punk to me. I honestly don’t even know (or care) what ‘post hardcore’ means.
        5) Torche reminds me of many of the d-beat bands. I might be off but not ‘way fucking off’. Its not like I said that the Jonas Brothers sound like a d-beat band.
        6) I was referring the The Victims who released ‘Killer’ off of Deathwish earlier this year. It’s fuckin’ awesome!

        • stu1

          Nick from Tiger Army is concentrating on his solo career at this point. I realize “they” still tour, but as I understand it, they’re going “off” for a while. I mean, Tiger Army is just Nick, anyway, but he’s supposedly focusing on his country career.
          Post-hardcore is generally considered the sound of bands like Quicksand, Fugazi to some extent, At The Drive In, etc. Sure, it’s a subgenre of punk in a greater sense, but I would never call them a “punk” band.
          No, you’re way off calling them anything close to D beat, dude. They tour with lots of bands that could fall under that (Coliseum for one) but you can’t tell me anything they recorded sounds like Discharge, Disfear, etc. Torche are really almost like a very heavy mainstream rock band.
          The band on Deathwish is called “Victims,” not “the Victims,” which is why I wasn’t sure if we were speaking of the same band, which we are. They are more of a “d beat” band than Torche.

        • stu1

          I just double checked, and I don’t think Tiger Army really played at all this year. They have their annual Halloween shows coming up but I can’t find anything else they’ve done since late last year.

          • John

            Gonna have to agree that torche isn’t anything close to a dbeat band. I like Torche, but dbeat is bands like disfear, victims, discharge and tragedy..

          • stu1

            John- definitely. Or at least very d-beat influenced in Tragedy’s case.

  • jaahn

    i’d agree if this had ANYTHING to do with the real D.I.Y. punk scene…that’s far from dead. when Maximum Rock N Roll starts pimping Ed Hardy shit in their rag, Max 625 starts drumming for , and 924 Gilman turns into the Tampax Arena or some shit, i’ll agree that punk is dead.

    • jaahn

      that should of read when Max 625 starts drumming for *insert famous pop star, with a hot topic wardrobe, here*
      guess as much as i’d like to pretend shit like this doesn’t affect the scene, i guess it does a little bit, when it pisses me off bad enough to fuck up typing…lol.

  • The Ghost of D. Boon

    Ironically enough, this artwork is jacked from a band called “The Exploited”

    • stu1

      I’d hoped other people picked up on that, too.

  • Useless Info

    Ed Hardy is sold at Sam’s Club.

    • stu1

      I’[m sure the older stuff, and misprinted shit, sure.

  • Sean Pulatie

    As long as there’s music, there will be idiots like Ed Hardy who will try to make a buck off it. Ed Hardy doesn’t know the next thing about punk. That doesn’t mean it’s dead. It’s kind of like these fucking 12-year-olds I see wearing Judas Priest shirts that they bought at Target. Really? Do you know the next thing about Priest and what they did for metal? Of course not. That doesn’t mean metal’s dead. Metal will be alive as long as there are pissed off kids, and punk will be alive as long as there are pissed off kids who can’t play guitar solos.

    • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

      They sell Priest shirts at Target? I was just there, call me next time!

    • stu1

      You might want to do a little research on Ed Hardy. The man, Ed Hardy, is one of the most well known and respected tattoo artists of all time. He, nor his family, has anything to do with the clothing line. A designer bought his name and art to use from his estate. (Ed, the man, is dead.) So please don’t aim your anger at “the idiot Ed Hardy.” It’s the same situation as the “Von Dutch” craze a few years back.
      What’s wrong with kids buying metal shirts at Target? I don’t see a problem with it, and I think you’d be surprised at what young metal kids know about the classics. Just because Target’s the only place a 12 year old can get his metal shirts and CDs doesn’t make him any less “real” than you.

      • Sean Pulatie

        I don’t have a problem with anything sold at Target, Walmart, or any mass retailer. If you can get your metal fix and frozen burritos (burritoes?) a little cheaper there, then more power to you.

        What I have a problem with is how many of these kids I’ll stop and say, “Oh, so you’re into _______ “, and they’ll have no clue who I’m talking about. They simply bought the shirt because it’s the newest thing. For some reason, wearing shirts with classic rock/metal/punk bands on them has become a new fad (at least around here), and NONE of the kids wearing them know a goddamn thing about the band or, for that matter, have even heard of them.

        If there happen to be 12-year-olds around your city that actually know about music, that’s awesome. Around here, though, we’re not so lucky.

        • stu1

          I see LOTS of young kids around in metal shirts on the streets AND at shows.

      • stu1

        I was wrong, he’s not dead. The rest stands.

  • http://www.inkland.com INKstar

    You took my pride,
    you took my passion
    and turned it into fashion!

    FUCK!