THE (MIS)APPROPRIATION OF METAL CULTURE CONTINUES
Friday, September 25th, 2009 at 3:00pm by Axl RosenbergHere’s a picture of Ryan Adams, who would irritate the living shit out of me even if he wasn’t married to the equally annoying Mandy Moore, wearing a Kreator shirt at a recent art show:
If Ryan Adams can tell me the name of one Kreator song, I’ll suck his cock and film it for the site. Go for it, Ryan. I’m waiting.
See more photos here. Formerly cool D-Generation singer turned hipster tool bag Jesse Malin was there, too.
-AR
[via SMN]
Douche.
iv read in interviews that alot of what he listened to growing up was metal. why im reading interviews with ryan adams isnt the point.
Who the fuck is Ryan Adams?
Regardless, it’d be funny if he emailed you extolling the virtures of “People of the Lie.”
I also came here to say who the fuck is Ryan Adams?
Under a Total Blackened Sky!
Really? Neither of you have heard of him?
I don’t. Who the fuck is he?
A really well known singer-songwriter
Not as well known as Mille Petrozza, in these parts anyway…
Isn’t he Bryan Adam’s twin brother?
Let’s see… one of the guys grew up, one got married… was he one of the “other” guys in the band who tried real hard?
Some funny shit! Fuck all these posers wearing easy to spot Metal shirts from your local Hot Topic who not only think their audio diarrhea is music but feel the need to inflict their 3rd grade scribbling onto innocent eyes and then put a price on it!
Plus, I find it hard to believe for someone who “loved metal” when they were growing up that he never made a metal album. I mean, if I loved Crunkcore when I was a tyke then I would have at least tried to make “teh c00lest crunkcore screemo shit eva!!!!1″
But, I guess that’s just me….
You know he’s not “crunkcore,” right? I’m not sure if that’s what you were getting at since your command of English is a bit shaky.
Yea…sure. My command of the English language is a bit shaky AND your ability to understand humor is likened to that of the passengers on the short bus…
That would imply something you wrote was funny.
Ryan Adams has a black metal project called Werewolph.
And I love alt country, but I hate Ryan Adams. Old 97’s are one of my favorite bands of all time and they kick Adams’ ass (with the exception of some of their overly polished material).
Or it might be death metal, don’t ask me cuz I don’t listen to him.
According to wiki, it says it’s black metal. Who knows.
That’s the only source I use and trust.
I way prefer his solo stuff and Whiskeytown to Old 97s
Besides being the band that really got me into alt country, Old 97’s are the best live band I’ve ever seen and likely ever will see. I listen to Wreck Your Life and Too Far To Care constantly, I don’t care too much for their poppier songs but overall I consider them one of the best in their genre. Can’t say I’ve really given Ryan Adams solo or with Whiskeytown much of a chance, the first few songs I heard from him didn’t do it for me and I haven’t had much desire to dig any deeper. The feud between the two bands kinda put me in the 97’s camp just because from how I understand it, it was Adams’ drunken plan from the start and took off after Rhett Miller refused to be a part of it. Ryan Adams always struck me as a bit immature, like an alcoholic 14 year old.
Oh, he’s a total mess and douche. He’s definitely gone out of his way to try to start feuds with other artists over the years, Jeff Tweedy being a big one. But I really like his music.
Old 97s are fantastic. Don’t give up on their newer stuff: I wasn’t crazy about “Blame It On Gravity” at first, but it really grew on me after repeat listens.
You should also check out The Gourds. Don’t let that goofy cover of “Gin & Juice” fool you. Those guys can really play and almost every song is mish-mash of musical styles. “Blood Of The Ram” is a good album to start with.
I was close to picking up Blame It On Gravity at Barnes & Noble last week, til I realized it wasn’t part of the $7.99 section. That place is crazy, I wasn’t willing to pay $18 for it.
And I’m checking out The Gourds right now, thanks!
fuck me, i just made the mistake of looking that up.
Did you know Ryan Adams has a “death metal” project called Werewolph? The website is no longer up, but there’s this:
http://www.subterraneanblog.com/2009/04/09/ryan-adams-resurrects-werewolph/
…and Youtube stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=werewolph&search_type=&aq=f
He also had a hardcore project with Jesse Malin called The Finger.
yea, as per above, I can’t stand the guy, he’s pseudo hipster douche, but he does have metal and punk roots. but trying to be all ‘anti-establishment’ and wearing a Kreator shirt to an art show is just trying WAY too hard. but, sadly, he might be able to name a Kreator song, so you MS dudes might have to drop to your knees! :)
Back in Summer of sixty-niiiiine!!!
Oh wait.
more metal bands should be covering bryan adams.
you guys get raged over this, but somehow iwrestledabearonce gets a pass? give me a fucking break.
wow, well said.
Looks like we may see some hardcore cock sucking.
God damn why can’t you just say hey cool Ryan Adams is wearing a kreator shirt, why? When i read this shit on metal sucks which i refresh at work about once every half hour, I get very disappointed that such a cool site with really cool people who run it could be this ignorant,Fuck stop adhering to the shitty metal status quo of “if your not a metal artist you can’t wear a metal t-shirt”
-grow up
I agree, but see where they’re coming from. There’s a lot of kind of “tongue in cheek” type metal shirt shit going on out there. But, I think this is probably pretty legit.
Ryan Adams is a shit-talking dweeb. He has an undeserving sense of entitlement and does not deserve to be wearing anything that remotely hints that he listens to good music. Although I do love Mandy Moore. I agree that she is annoying, though. I don’t know WHY, but she just…is.
Ahhh so you have to “earn the right” to listen to good music?
+1000
Yeah, just to reiterate what others have said, he definitely has strong metal, punk and hardcore roots so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he could rattle off the band’s entire catalog.
He is definitely a douche, but I think he’s a great songwriter. His solo stuff can be kind of hit or miss, but when he hits, it’s out of the park.
I believe what stu1 is saying is, “Prepare for insertion”, Axl.
See what happens? You open your mouth to soon and a cock finds it’s way in there.
You guys complain too much… here in Italy if a celebrity (I don’t know this Bryan Adams, I guess he is famous…) would appear in public with a Iron Maiden shirt he would be pointed out as a satanist… I’d prefer to see random celebrities wearing and misappropriating the metal culture than living in a country with a medieval culture…
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a sec…. are those paintings sold for 15.000?????
Ryan Adams and Bryan Adams are different people. Being from Italy, I can understand you not knowing who Ryan is, but you’ve never heard of Bryan Adams?
In fact, I mispelled it since to me Bryan and Ryan seem quite the same name… however I’ve heard of Bryan Adams only for a collaboration with an italian artist.
Wow. Hey, well put.
Come on, think about this for more than two fucking seconds. If someone was gonna wear a metal T-shirt for ironic/hipster cred, why the fuck would they pick a KREATOR shirt? They’d be wearing an Iron Maiden shirt, or something else that the non-metal-loving douche crowd would recognize. And anyway, as others have said above, Adams has not exactly been quiet about his metalhead-dom. Shit, he was on the cover of Relix magazine last year wearing a Death shirt. (I know this because when I was editing Metal Edge, we were owned by the same company that put out Relix.)
Also, I’ve met Jesse a few times and he’s always been pretty good. Yeah, he’s more of a urban folk artist type thing now and owns some “cool guy” “hipster” type bars but I’ve never thought of him in a negative light.
Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.
Seriously though, i like Ryan Adams because I think he’s a very good songwriter. Not metal at all, but I know I’m not the only one around here who listens to stuff other than metal (hell, I listen to Jim Croce during my post-workout early morning smoke, I ain’t afraid to say it).
For anybody out there who is wondering who Ryan Adams is, he sings the opening song on Old School where Luke Wilson is going home through the airport and the singer says “I got high, high, high, high, LORD I got high”. Pretty much anybody who’s seen that movie on multiple occasions remembers that song.
Jim Croce was one of the most badass human beings to walk the Earth
I second that.
Jim Croce was the man, never be afraid to state that!
Yup… there’s quite the difference between Jim Croce and Ryan Adams – The latter being a douche bag poser who sells shitty music & scribbling for way too much cash. Jim Croce actually had some fucking talent! “Time in a Bottle” is more Metal than anything that Ryan & all of his band members could ever put together!!
‘Eh at least he’s a musician. You know what really pissed me the fuck off though, David Beckham wearing an Exodus shirt. I doubt he could name a single song.
Or for that matter mall chicks who wear Ramones shirts. That Ed Harvey article summed it up pretty well, I started seeing stuff like Raging Speedhorn at the local trendy music store. It’s getting progressively worse. I’d blame MTV, but it’s capitalism all together.
I wouldn’t give the guy shit for wearing a Kreator t-shirt, however:
that shirt looks waaay fucking new. Like Hot Topic new. Even so,
why would a guy with true METAL roots abandon and forsake it all for making shit music?
Oh, yeah. Michael Bolton.
There’s a good amount of artists out there, esp in the alt country/contemporary folk/whatever you want to call it scenes who are in their 30s who grew up on thrash, punk, hardcore, etc. I still listen to (and follow) metal, punk, etc but love alt country, more mainstream rock, folk, etc etc. The only band I’ve ever been in was a 70s style country rock band. What’s the big deal? No one’s “abadoning” their roots or “forsaking” them. As has been pointed out in Adams’ case, he’s done metal and punk projects along with his alt country. People CAN like AND perform different styles of music.
And, so what, it’s a new shirt? Big deal. People DO buy new shirts. Should I never buy another older band shirt? I can’t buy shirts from defunct bands? And, god forbid I buy a shirt at Hot Topic!!! Noooooo!!! I’ve gotten a lot of cool shirts in there over the years on the discount racks.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, Ryan. Kreator isn’t defunct, though.
Didn’t say they were. Try re-reading my statement.
I was only just pointing out the ludicrousness of your post.
I read your statement once already: if you’re not Ryan Adams, you’re certainly sensitive about what you buy and where you shop to react in such a way from a sarcastic post on a metal blog. try some Aloe and maybe some herbal tea.
You read in once, and didn’t get it. We gathered. I’m certainly not Ryan Adams, nor would he be scouring some metal board to see what some dude in sweat pants thinks about him. I’m not “sensitive” about anything. I just think you have a very limited vision of this thing we call “reality.” I know “metal” is very precious to you, and is probably you’re only link to “cool” you’ll ever have.
If he can’t name a Kreator song, and he’s just wearing the shirt for a certain “look”, then fuck him in the ass. However, if he is familiar with Kreator, I think that’s great. Pleasure to Kill is just about as metal as it gets. It can be really surprising who’s a metalhead in the music industry. Look at Dave Grohl. No one would know who he is if it wasn’t for Shitvana, but in reality metal is his true passion. I’m totally down with popular artists being open about their love of metal, in fact I really support it, as long as their love is true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u86TII3s20 WEREWOLPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just googled Ryan Adams Metal and found this:
“The 13 Metal Songs Ryan Adams Recommended in Blender”
1. “Into the Crypts of Rays,” Celtic Frost
2. “Behind the Crooked Cross,” Slayer
3. “Intervention,” Corrosion of Conformity
4. “The Thing That Should Not Be,” Metallica
5. “Tribal Convictions,” Voivod
6. “Long Way To Love,” Britny Fox
7. “Wasted Years,” Iron Maiden
8. “Soul on Fire,” Danzig
10. “Raging Embers,” Saviours
11. “After Forever,” Black Sabbath
12. “Over the Mountain,” Ozzy Osbourne
13. “The Prison of Mirrors,” Xasthur
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/12/the_13_metal_so.html
Well there you have it. Chances are he can actually name a Kreator song. Start suckin’, Axl.
His twitter page (http://twitter.com/ryanada_ms) has a cool Voivod background, so yes… he probably CAN name a Kreator song.
I saw his top 5 records of 2008 list…Krallice was number 4, how bad can the dude really be? And I’ll reiterate the comments above about you folks letting way worse shit like Iwrestledabearonce, Suicide Silence, or Scar Symmetry get a pass…I’ll take alt/country hipsters over that scheiss anyday!
Oh, yeah, I’d take the worst Ryan Adams over a lot of current “top” metal bands.
axl you are such a fucking tool man. get ready to suck his cock, ryan knows his fucking metal.
I like Ryan Adams… He does a pretty interesting of Alice In Chain’s “Down In A Hole” It’s on Youtube.
Interesting cover* Damn, I need sleep. lol
It’s awesome.
Check out this page for a list of Ryan Adams’ top 9 records last year. Krallice, Testament, Ihsahn and Metallica:
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/12/ryan_adams_2009.html
Those four (maybe with the exception of Krallice) don’t sound like the pics of someone with an ironic interest iin metal. Me personally, I dig a lot of Ryan Adams, especially his first record Heartbreaker. His old Whiskeytown bandmate Phil Wandscher is in The Sweet Hereafter with Jesse Sykes, who is all up in the SunnO))) camp…she was the best part about that Sunn/Boris record a couple years back.
Jesse Sykes on a Sunn record??? I have to check that out. She’s one of my favorite singers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/arts/music/26play.html
xasthur and saviours
Umm Ryan Adams is awesome. Love is Hell is one of my favorite albums. And yes I have read that he listens to metal, so Axl like Blah said above me, moisten your lips and prepare to get a load all over your face.
He was once a guest DJ on sirius radio’s metal station….and the stuff he played was way better than their regular programming.
The guests and specialty shows are always better than the regular programming.
I have been listening to metal for over 20 years and I can’t name a Kreator song.
30 years combined
Jesus dude. Coma of Souls. Look it up. Grade A++ Thrash.
EXTREME AGGRESSION!
PEOPLE OF THE LIE!
OUT OF THE DARK, INTO THE LIGHT!
Some of you here need to get some old school in your metal diet.
Yeah, he knows is shit and is a credible singer/songwriter. You are way off on here. The Mandy Moore comment does seem legit, but she must be cool if he ended up with her after dating Parker Posey for so long. Talk shit about lame people, this guy rules!
The writing on this site is getting sloppier and less funny all the time.
If it was up to me, I’d throatfuck the metal culture, and make sure that everyone everyone and their grandma wore metal-like shirts, until most metal fans go the fuck over themselves and their “more serious than thou” culture.
My God Axl, are you dumb or have you just failed in mastering the complexity that is the “google search”. 3 seconds on there and you’d find that this creature is actually a metal fan.
Oh wait. Third option. Maybe you just really like sucking cocks.
If that’s the case, who am i to judge? I like Halford as much as the next guy.
Axl, if Ryan calls your bluff at least see if he’d dip his wang in Mandy’s poon first.
I’d normally say the guy was an ultimate toolbox, but he’s banging Mandy Moore. She’s pretty fucking cute. So he gets a couple internets there. Aside from “the dude banging Mandy Moore”, I have no fucking clue who he is. He sorta looks like an old lady with a fucked-up haircut in that picture. Seriously, stuff some grapefruit in his shirt, and he could pass for an ugly soccer mom. Bastard must have a 18″ dick and one hell of a personality to be nailing something in Mandy Moore’s class.
Best singer-songwriter in the past 20 years might help, too.
I’m gonna go on a “No” for that one, Bob.
Suck cock, Axl
Wow.
Who knew that Ryan Adams wearing a Kreator shirt could get sand in so many vaginas.
Regardless, if the dude is into metal and he’s wearing a shirt like that, who gives a shit? I’ve read a few things about him talking about his fave metal bands and he seems to know his shit. He plays music that’s not metal? Well, fuckin’ A. We need more people out there who AREN’T indie hipster losers that think metal begins and ends with Paris Hilton wearing a Motorhead shirt.
Anyone who’s bitching about this kind of thing needs to re-read Eyal’s blog from awhile ago about genres other than metal.
Meh, thing is, you attend something like an “arts festival” and wear something like a metal shirt, anyone who sees it is going to assume it’s one of those “ironic scenester” things that’s become so popular over the past couple years, not “Oh, he must actually like that band”.
If he likes metal, great, bully for him. Wearing a metal shirt to something like an arts show isn’t exactly the best way to express his appreciation for metal and not expect people to think he’s just being a typical trend-dweeb, though.
The dude probably had the shirt on, went to the art opening, then went to a bar. Christ.
It’s actually his art show that he wore the shirt too. He also wore Slayer and Bathory shirts while creating the art that he’s autioning off for charity.
How come it’s “all good” if Demi Lovato “can get some twelve year old girls into JFAC” but you’ll try to call out a dude who openly supports and appreciates good metal, not to mention, he’s created his own.
I’m way too big of a Ryan Adams AND metal fan to listen to you call bullshit on this, Axl. Trying to call someone out for being an avid music lover is just ridiculous.
Regardless of whether or not Ryan Adams really does know about Kreator (and there seems to be fairly compelling evidence he does), if he DOES know anything about Google or Wikipedia …. Looks like you’re violated either way, Axl. *pats your shoulder sympathetically, assuming you’d pledged to do The Deed specifically because it’s NOT your thing*
Didn’t your mother ever tell you NOT to put your mouth on it??
http://www.google.com/search?q=ryan+adams+metal
I would chop off a leg for the chance just to smell one of Mandy Moore’s farts
Friday LOL
My True Ryan Adams Story:
He was playing a gig here in Melbourne (Australia) a few years back and a mate of mine got free tickets, so he dragged me along – I’d never heard of him. Halfway through the boring show at the end of one of his mellower songs, my friends yells out “Play Summer of ‘69!”
Well, Adams went fucking nuts! He screamed for the house lights to be turned on and for security to find the guy who did it. My pal waved his arms about in glee but security were too ashamed to throw him out, to which Adams began calling my group of friends Racists (!) and said he’d stop the fucking show if we weren’t removed. He called us cunts and went into a fucking sulk.
The rest of the Audience were dumbfounded. 2000 people in a theater literally went silent. The incident made the local press and national newspapers here which cemented his reputation in Australia as primordial dickhead…
It occurs to me that Adams should have just played the intro riff to Summer of ‘69 and maybe we would have laughed and thought he had a good sense of humor.
The worst thing of all is that he actually changed his name TO Ryan Adams!
that is pure brilliance! what a fucken legend your friend us hahah!
Wow. way to get into a joke people were doing here 7 years ago.
Well, we were fortunate enough not to be poisoned with his ego until relatively recently. If only we had a time/space machine, we’d be able to be as unfortunate as the rest of you.
He has the internet. He could just Google it. I think Axl just WANTS to suck his dick.
wow you guys are even bigger douches than I imagined. dude actually likes kreator. i know it’s insane to you that someone outside of the “metal community” would be into a band you listen to that isn’t named metallica, but lo-and-be-fuckin-hold, the dude fucking mandy moore is into kreator. and jim carrey likes cannibal corpse. who fucking cares?
just checked out kreator for the first time on their myspace page. listened to “hordes of chaos”. Crazy how close the main riff at about 43 seconds sounds like the Lamb of God riff on “In Your Words”. (song 2 on wrath)
Yep and that’s so similar I have to doubt it being a coincidence.
I don’t like what I know of Ryan Adams but he might be the one allegedly ‘faux metal’ example this site has flagged up who actually listens to and appreciates metal.
Wide of the mark… or are you saying musicians that don’t play heavy metal aren’t allowed to like it?
That would be absurd.
You could change the name of the site to AxlSucks.
hahaha – too funny.
And then Ryan reacts to Axl’s ‘challenge’: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1617/ryanadamsreaction.jpg
Fnar fnar!
Actually, Ryan Adams is an avid metal fan. Get together lamers. He gave a Xasthur shout out when I saw him 2 years ago. Plus cited Xasthur as one the main bands he was into as of late in the New York Times.
Plenty of people who are into metal suck the bags.
Why do people listen to metal. Personally I like it mostly because the music sounds good to me. I have to wonder though why other people like it.
If indignation towards “misapropriation” of music is any indication, I’d say a lot of people are into this to get away from “the mainstream” , the “corporations” and “the man”( All vague projections of the many complex forces that make our lives suck).
The irony I see with these people is that they claim that they like real music and “the mainstream” is about liking music for the wrong reasons. They will put down a band for being “fashioncore”. This implies that they are more into styling their hair then making music. The irony is that the detractors are ALSO paying more attention to the fashion then the music.
So I have to ask you guys. Are you really into this for the music or because you hate everyone?
I just like the music. This douche can wear a Gojira shirt for all I care. It affects my enjoyment not at all.
“All vague projections of the many complex forces that make our lives suck”
I’ve heard this before somewhere…
I said it on another thread. Other then that I never heard it.
That’s what I meant, I’m pretty sure you used to same line when you responded to me once
The only misappropriating that’s been done here is by MetalSucks.
It’s a T-Shirt you fucks. Who gives a shit.
Musicians tend to like all walks of music and can appreciate different things from different genres.
yeah, people are just jumping on the hate bandwagon. Anyway, at least he’s not as douche as the guy in the tight jeans and jeans jacket
It’s becoming “hip” to be a metalhead. It sucks.
Just because he sucks, doesn’t me he doesn’t know metal.
I know plenty of shitheads that can name a metal song.
You fool, what if he just googles them & emails you a song title that he just learned!