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	<title>Comments on: MATT SORUM BLAMES SCOTT WEILAND FOR LIBERTAD&#8216;S SHITTY SALES</title>
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		<title>By: Marty Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most comments here are from a year and a half ago, but I&#039;ll leave my opinions for the occasional reader :)

First, Velvet Revolver is a terrific band. I love both GNR and the STP, so when Slash, Duff, Matt and Scott got together to put this thing together I knew it would work, my expectations were high. The thing is, my expectations were high regarding whatever they produced, that is, I wanted to hear what they would sound like regardless of what GNR or STP traits would come along. I knew they would sound good and I knew they would sound and act up-to-date. Of course, guitar, bass and drums are coming from three former GNR members, while there&#039;s one STP former member who&#039;s the singer. It&#039;s pretty fair.

GNR and STP have a common thread -- both blend hard rock and punk rock, both were commercial hits. Some people talk about selling out. To sell out means to do something strictly for the money. That&#039;s not the case with VR, even though it&#039;s just okay for any rocker to actually want to sell records. It&#039;s fun and it&#039;s rewarding to be in front of large crowds and under the limelight. That doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;ve sold out at all. 

Velvet Revolver&#039;s music is genuine, even if this or that vision prevailed on this or that album, and even if the second album was intended to be a little more radio-friendly.

Scott Weiland is one of the greatest singers/frontmen ever, and it&#039;s really hard to replace him -- that&#039;s why the band is taking so long. One guy here said he wanted to do emo stuff... I&#039;m sorry, that&#039;s stupid, there&#039;s nothing emo about anything he does. &quot;Emo&quot; is a just another silly tag, but it refers to a totally different vibe.

If Weiland had more say on the making of Libertad, well... the other guys must&#039;ve thought it was good. It is good, it just doesn&#039;t sound like Contraband. So what? 

Someone said Matt Sorum sucks. Come on, there he is drumming for Motorhead now, if you like sheer brutality. He was with The Cult before and after GNR, he played on a lotta great musicians&#039; albums. Why do you think he was picked? Not just because he looks good and dresses fancy. Please don&#039;t hate him for that, btw.

I don&#039;t compare VR to GNR or STP. I think of it as a great band that put out two great albums and several great live performances. I&#039;m sorry I missed them live.

Lastly, I hope they get a good singer soon. Sebastian Bach would be good and would fit right in, but he&#039;s friends with Axl so I don&#039;t know. I hope it&#039;s not that After Bridge singer Slash got for his band. That would kill Velvet Revolver. I don&#039;t care about his polite, high-pitched singing. I wanna hear a guy who can sing his guts out, with a real rock n roll attitude. Cheers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most comments here are from a year and a half ago, but I&#8217;ll leave my opinions for the occasional reader :)</p>
<p>First, Velvet Revolver is a terrific band. I love both GNR and the STP, so when Slash, Duff, Matt and Scott got together to put this thing together I knew it would work, my expectations were high. The thing is, my expectations were high regarding whatever they produced, that is, I wanted to hear what they would sound like regardless of what GNR or STP traits would come along. I knew they would sound good and I knew they would sound and act up-to-date. Of course, guitar, bass and drums are coming from three former GNR members, while there&#8217;s one STP former member who&#8217;s the singer. It&#8217;s pretty fair.</p>
<p>GNR and STP have a common thread &#8212; both blend hard rock and punk rock, both were commercial hits. Some people talk about selling out. To sell out means to do something strictly for the money. That&#8217;s not the case with VR, even though it&#8217;s just okay for any rocker to actually want to sell records. It&#8217;s fun and it&#8217;s rewarding to be in front of large crowds and under the limelight. That doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;ve sold out at all. </p>
<p>Velvet Revolver&#8217;s music is genuine, even if this or that vision prevailed on this or that album, and even if the second album was intended to be a little more radio-friendly.</p>
<p>Scott Weiland is one of the greatest singers/frontmen ever, and it&#8217;s really hard to replace him &#8212; that&#8217;s why the band is taking so long. One guy here said he wanted to do emo stuff&#8230; I&#8217;m sorry, that&#8217;s stupid, there&#8217;s nothing emo about anything he does. &#8220;Emo&#8221; is a just another silly tag, but it refers to a totally different vibe.</p>
<p>If Weiland had more say on the making of Libertad, well&#8230; the other guys must&#8217;ve thought it was good. It is good, it just doesn&#8217;t sound like Contraband. So what? </p>
<p>Someone said Matt Sorum sucks. Come on, there he is drumming for Motorhead now, if you like sheer brutality. He was with The Cult before and after GNR, he played on a lotta great musicians&#8217; albums. Why do you think he was picked? Not just because he looks good and dresses fancy. Please don&#8217;t hate him for that, btw.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t compare VR to GNR or STP. I think of it as a great band that put out two great albums and several great live performances. I&#8217;m sorry I missed them live.</p>
<p>Lastly, I hope they get a good singer soon. Sebastian Bach would be good and would fit right in, but he&#8217;s friends with Axl so I don&#8217;t know. I hope it&#8217;s not that After Bridge singer Slash got for his band. That would kill Velvet Revolver. I don&#8217;t care about his polite, high-pitched singing. I wanna hear a guy who can sing his guts out, with a real rock n roll attitude. Cheers!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sergeant D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergeant D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18 Visions and Avenged Sevenfold did VR better than VR</description>
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		<title>By: Gritty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gritty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use Your Illusion I &amp; II are some of the greatest rock albums ever recorded. Velvet Revolver was a band made up of a lot of talented musicians that were well past their creative prime. I think they still made some listenable stuff, but coming from the bands and having the prior success they had, they were never gonna live up to the expectations. I&#039;ll say this, as big of an STP fan that I am, I though Weiland was completely tapped after Tiny Music. I wanted my money back after buying the tragedies that were No. 4 and Shangri La. VRs albums beat the crap out of those, which was all I was asking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use Your Illusion I &amp; II are some of the greatest rock albums ever recorded. Velvet Revolver was a band made up of a lot of talented musicians that were well past their creative prime. I think they still made some listenable stuff, but coming from the bands and having the prior success they had, they were never gonna live up to the expectations. I&#8217;ll say this, as big of an STP fan that I am, I though Weiland was completely tapped after Tiny Music. I wanted my money back after buying the tragedies that were No. 4 and Shangri La. VRs albums beat the crap out of those, which was all I was asking for.</p>
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		<title>By: NoCowNoFood</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoCowNoFood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Contraband was better.. now Libertad really got me bored to hell back at that time.. I wonder who the new VR vocals will be...I think they need to get to the  heavy groves and forget freaking hard rock ballads....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Contraband was better.. now Libertad really got me bored to hell back at that time.. I wonder who the new VR vocals will be&#8230;I think they need to get to the  heavy groves and forget freaking hard rock ballads&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Suarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Aqua song is terrible!</description>
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		<title>By: We Love Metal</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Love Metal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont&#039; thing Scott had any influence.  They kicked his ass out so how seriously were they really taking him.  The album was awful and to blame one person is worse then saying one person made an album great.  Sorum needs to keep his mouth shut, the guy drives me crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont&#8217; thing Scott had any influence.  They kicked his ass out so how seriously were they really taking him.  The album was awful and to blame one person is worse then saying one person made an album great.  Sorum needs to keep his mouth shut, the guy drives me crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: myspace.com/gregkleinlegion</title>
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		<dc:creator>myspace.com/gregkleinlegion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who make the best les pauls? duffs japanese knock off- burni (which they say is better than the real thing) or slashs epiphone or gibson les pauls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who make the best les pauls? duffs japanese knock off- burni (which they say is better than the real thing) or slashs epiphone or gibson les pauls?</p>
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		<title>By: Buttor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buttor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come I&#039;m not surprised by your statement ?</description>
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		<title>By: \m/Eluveitie\m/</title>
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		<dc:creator>\m/Eluveitie\m/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the dude from Aqua better</description>
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		<title>By: Alaskan King Crabcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaskan King Crabcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Sorum sucks.</description>
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		<title>By: steve-o</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Libertad&quot; was far superior to &quot;Contraband&quot;, but it did have a lot of weak moments, including the single they released.  Good lord, was I disappointed when that was the first track I heard from the album.  The rest of it has some decent moments, but I ultimately agree with the previous commenter who said that you could probably get one decent album by combining the best tracks from both albums.

Oh, and then there&#039;s VR in concert.  Talk about a snoozefest.  I&#039;m glad AIC was the opener, because VR was way below expectations.  They all seemed bored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Libertad&#8221; was far superior to &#8220;Contraband&#8221;, but it did have a lot of weak moments, including the single they released.  Good lord, was I disappointed when that was the first track I heard from the album.  The rest of it has some decent moments, but I ultimately agree with the previous commenter who said that you could probably get one decent album by combining the best tracks from both albums.</p>
<p>Oh, and then there&#8217;s VR in concert.  Talk about a snoozefest.  I&#8217;m glad AIC was the opener, because VR was way below expectations.  They all seemed bored.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axl, how many hands do you have? 

As for the debate (if you can call it that) between Contraband and Libertad, I&#039;d say you could pull about 12 good songs from the two and make a good album. And I&#039;d probably have to, off hand without recalling which songs are from which, guess that 8 would come from Contraband and 4 from Libertad. But that&#039;s kind of the point - that I can&#039; t really recall too many songs. Too many are forgettable songs. Not great, not bad, some good, some average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axl, how many hands do you have? </p>
<p>As for the debate (if you can call it that) between Contraband and Libertad, I&#8217;d say you could pull about 12 good songs from the two and make a good album. And I&#8217;d probably have to, off hand without recalling which songs are from which, guess that 8 would come from Contraband and 4 from Libertad. But that&#8217;s kind of the point &#8211; that I can&#8217; t really recall too many songs. Too many are forgettable songs. Not great, not bad, some good, some average.</p>
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		<title>By: stu1</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the Hulk track was half way decent. Better than some of the crap on the record. I also think Loaded is a giant piece of garbage.</description>
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		<title>By: stu1</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best since snakepit... wow. Low standards, huh?</description>
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		<title>By: I Hate Ziltoid aka Nacho Cheese Doritos</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Hate Ziltoid aka Nacho Cheese Doritos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STP is better anyways...if anyone gives a crap.</description>
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		<title>By: Fufkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fufkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The suggestion was that with the members VR had and their histories, the music might be dangerous and edgy - but the second record was just middle of the road and passionless. I was actually surprised how badly they failed to deliver, I personally wanted it to be good. It was like LA fixtures patting each other on the back for just getting the thing finished. 
Neither bad enough to offend or good enough to inspire many people to defend it as some kind of lost gem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The suggestion was that with the members VR had and their histories, the music might be dangerous and edgy &#8211; but the second record was just middle of the road and passionless. I was actually surprised how badly they failed to deliver, I personally wanted it to be good. It was like LA fixtures patting each other on the back for just getting the thing finished.<br />
Neither bad enough to offend or good enough to inspire many people to defend it as some kind of lost gem.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Suarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right.  MY BAD.</description>
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		<title>By: cougar party</title>
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		<dc:creator>cougar party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me?!  Fergie is gonna be on that record.  FUCKIN&#039; Fergie Motherfuckers!  Are you crazy?! Of course it will be totally amazing!   

Also, I heard the chick from Aqua sings on a hidden bonus track.  I can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me?!  Fergie is gonna be on that record.  FUCKIN&#8217; Fergie Motherfuckers!  Are you crazy?! Of course it will be totally amazing!   </p>
<p>Also, I heard the chick from Aqua sings on a hidden bonus track.  I can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinaain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shinaain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fall into the category of people who were stupid-excited to hear some of my favorite musicians get together and throw something down, and then I heard *Contraband* and was miserably underwhelmed. So when they came out with a crappy single for *Libertad,* I couldn&#039;t muster the interest to investigate further. I&#039;ll take your word that *Libertad* was better and not chance spending any more time wondering what more could have been.

See, *Contraband* totally sounded like what it was, which was the product of a year or so of pre-production with the band composing alone and Weiland&#039;s vocals just thrown in over the top at the last minute. The arrangements were awkward from the standpoint that there was no meld between the differing styles and artistic sentiments. After *Contraband,* I was briefly less interested in who the band was at the time than who I thought they COULD be after a year or more of gel-ing through touring and the chance to write and arrange TOGETHER, as opposed to trying to jam disparate parts together by brute force. I say briefly - by the time *Libertad* came around, I had lost interest and didn&#039;t care at all anymore. Oh, and I let the single they released for *The Hulk* to slide because they were just finding their feet, but they didn&#039;t slip another one past me with the stupid single they released for *The Fantastic Four.*

Overall, the sniping comments each faction continues to make agains the other in the press don&#039;t interest me. The reason why they failed doesn&#039;t interest me. They tried and it didn&#039;t work. On to the next thing, please. So horribly disappointing. Thank you, Duff, for bringing back Loaded. VR would have had more integrity had they just played weekend gigs around L.A. as Camp Freddy, Option B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fall into the category of people who were stupid-excited to hear some of my favorite musicians get together and throw something down, and then I heard *Contraband* and was miserably underwhelmed. So when they came out with a crappy single for *Libertad,* I couldn&#8217;t muster the interest to investigate further. I&#8217;ll take your word that *Libertad* was better and not chance spending any more time wondering what more could have been.</p>
<p>See, *Contraband* totally sounded like what it was, which was the product of a year or so of pre-production with the band composing alone and Weiland&#8217;s vocals just thrown in over the top at the last minute. The arrangements were awkward from the standpoint that there was no meld between the differing styles and artistic sentiments. After *Contraband,* I was briefly less interested in who the band was at the time than who I thought they COULD be after a year or more of gel-ing through touring and the chance to write and arrange TOGETHER, as opposed to trying to jam disparate parts together by brute force. I say briefly &#8211; by the time *Libertad* came around, I had lost interest and didn&#8217;t care at all anymore. Oh, and I let the single they released for *The Hulk* to slide because they were just finding their feet, but they didn&#8217;t slip another one past me with the stupid single they released for *The Fantastic Four.*</p>
<p>Overall, the sniping comments each faction continues to make agains the other in the press don&#8217;t interest me. The reason why they failed doesn&#8217;t interest me. They tried and it didn&#8217;t work. On to the next thing, please. So horribly disappointing. Thank you, Duff, for bringing back Loaded. VR would have had more integrity had they just played weekend gigs around L.A. as Camp Freddy, Option B.</p>
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		<title>By: Muro</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/09/29/matt-sorum-blames-scott-weiland-for-libertads-shitty-sales/#comment-313971</link>
		<dc:creator>Muro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed the second Slash&#039;s Snakepit album....actually I think it&#039;s a pretty underrated album and that it&#039;s a hidden jewek in Mr. Hudson&#039;s discography.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed the second Slash&#8217;s Snakepit album&#8230;.actually I think it&#8217;s a pretty underrated album and that it&#8217;s a hidden jewek in Mr. Hudson&#8217;s discography.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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