Comments on: REGARDING THE LEAK OF CONVERGE’S AXE TO FALL http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/ IS FOR LOVERS Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Elliott http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-323711 Elliott Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:51:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-323711 This apology is a load of bullshit. 'Accidental leak' my ass. I wouldn't send you guys dog shit. This apology is a load of bullshit. ‘Accidental leak’ my ass. I wouldn’t send you guys dog shit.

]]> By: jc http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-321830 jc Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:43:56 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-321830 Neither does laziness, sir. Artists just need to deal with reality, thats all, not that difficult really, unless of course an artist is still relying upon the "overblown expectations" (to quote the misguided 'SourDeez') of a dying era of ridiculous industry standards. Neither does laziness, sir.
Artists just need to deal with reality, thats all, not that difficult really, unless of course an artist is still relying upon the “overblown expectations” (to quote the misguided ‘SourDeez’) of a dying era of ridiculous industry standards.

]]> By: jc http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-321822 jc Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:24:35 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-321822 Couldn't have been put better. I tried but then read your comment here... re: HEAR>LIKE>BUY. Exactly. Why are people so fucking closed minded that they can't understand this, it's positive inevitability, and all that it implies? They fail us. Couldn’t have been put better. I tried but then read your comment here…
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HEAR>LIKE>BUY.

Exactly.
Why are people so fucking closed minded that they can’t understand this, it’s positive inevitability, and all that it implies? They fail us.

]]> By: jc http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-321812 jc Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:11:01 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-321812 And btw Mr Morality Lesson, it's sad to see such misguided opinion. Well at least you have one I guess, but you have your head in the dirt. You will always be in the dark until you get over your self righteous propaganda and see it for what it is. And btw Mr Morality Lesson, it’s sad to see such misguided opinion.
Well at least you have one I guess, but you have your head in the dirt.
You will always be in the dark until you get over your self righteous propaganda and see it for what it is.

]]> By: jc http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-321804 jc Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:59:15 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-321804 I agree, i mean sure -principles are one thing, but the reality is that the world is changing very rapidly. Professional musicians need to adapt to the new commercial environment, don't try to grasp on to the last vestiges of a corrupt age of record industry greed -it was never in their (the artist) best interests anyway (quite to the contrary). Trust me, things are going to be WAY better for the truly independent recording artist. It is finally leveling out into a situation where commercially-mass-produced artists fall into the great black hole of cyberspace file-sharing, while bands of integrity (such as Converge) who earn a loyal connection with a listener benefit from the self promotion that GOOD music naturally creates. I sometimes download music, and though cautious of the "rights" of an artist, have never cared a less about "ripping" anyone off, because if I like it I ALWAYS BUY it online/from a record store, and often as special edition or vinyl, and can't wait to see them live when he/she/they tour of course! Wake up to the new world. Personally, I have been really excited about this album which is in fact why I DEFINITELY will NOT download any leaked versions! I can't wait to hear my new pre-ordered cd and vinyl in 16bit/analog sound blasting through my system. Fuck listening to some piece of shit compressed mp3 or even flac files early to destroy that experience! Even the artwork itself is always going to be a part of that, especially with Converge. I agree, i mean sure -principles are one thing, but the reality is that the world is changing very rapidly.
Professional musicians need to adapt to the new commercial environment, don’t try to grasp on to the last vestiges of a corrupt age of record industry greed -it was never in their (the artist) best interests anyway (quite to the contrary).

Trust me, things are going to be WAY better for the truly independent recording artist. It is finally leveling out into a situation where commercially-mass-produced artists fall into the great black hole of cyberspace file-sharing, while bands of integrity (such as Converge) who earn a loyal connection with a listener benefit from the self promotion that GOOD music naturally creates.

I sometimes download music, and though cautious of the “rights” of an artist, have never cared a less about “ripping” anyone off, because if I like it I ALWAYS BUY it online/from a record store, and often as special edition or vinyl, and can’t wait to see them live when he/she/they tour of course!

Wake up to the new world.

Personally, I have been really excited about this album which is in fact why I DEFINITELY will NOT download any leaked versions!
I can’t wait to hear my new pre-ordered cd and vinyl in 16bit/analog sound blasting through my system.
Fuck listening to some piece of shit compressed mp3 or even flac files early to destroy that experience! Even the artwork itself is always going to be a part of that, especially with Converge.

]]> By: Notmetal http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-321723 Notmetal Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:49:08 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-321723 This album is so fucking intense it's not even funny. Definitely within my top 5 albums of the year. This album is so fucking intense it’s not even funny. Definitely within my top 5 albums of the year.

]]> By: james http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-320966 james Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:18:45 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-320966 http://rapidshare.com/files/288620704/Converge-Axe_To_Fall-_Advance_-2009-NOGRP.rar http://rapidshare.com/files/288620704/Converge-Axe_To_Fall-_Advance_-2009-NOGRP.rar

]]> By: aaron m. http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-320868 aaron m. Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:55:02 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-320868 exposure don't pay the bills, son. exposure don’t pay the bills, son.

]]> By: aaron m. http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-320853 aaron m. Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:02:46 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-320853 actually, dethklok is supposed to be one of the biggest releases this year, outselling most other metal albums. it's kinda sad that a joke band can do so well, but whatever, i guess. actually, dethklok is supposed to be one of the biggest releases this year, outselling most other metal albums. it’s kinda sad that a joke band can do so well, but whatever, i guess.

]]> By: Brad http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-320737 Brad Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:02:44 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-320737 I don't understand why bands don't understand that fans spreading their music all over the internet to eager listeners everywhere is actually a GOOD thing. I'm glad the leaker put the album out there on the internet. Why? Because I wanted to hear it. There's a million bands out there these days who would kill for such exposure. I don’t understand why bands don’t understand that fans spreading their music all over the internet to eager listeners everywhere is actually a GOOD thing. I’m glad the leaker put the album out there on the internet. Why? Because I wanted to hear it. There’s a million bands out there these days who would kill for such exposure.

]]> By: SourDeez http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319853 SourDeez Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:50:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319853 Rebuttal: No matter what, the number one factor in the enablement of creativity is accessibility. The more people hear it, the better for you, and the more creative you can be next time around. The guys in Converge were actually happy that the album leaked. Some of us aren't content waiting for one album by one band. We listen to hundreds of new albums every single day, thus increasing our exposure to new artists, an what artists care about most is if people are hearing their music. Waiting is not fun at all, waiting doesn't make the music better, all it does is make expectations way too high. Unless you're buying a vinyl (which I really love, but is also impossible to afford if you want to hear hundreds of new albums in a day), the artwork is reduced to a tiny little pamphlet. Nobody watches bands on YouTube instead of seeing them live, however, having music be a click away whenever you want it enables people to listen to much more music by many more artists. Any smart artist would WANT people to hear their music for free and as soon as it's ready to be heard, not after months and months of waiting even though the product is complete. I know personally, I'm just as pumped if not more pumped when I see that an album is available on the internet than I am when it comes out in stores. I'm just as excited to hear the music, and if the music is good, I'm just as eager to give the band my money by seeing them live and buying their merchandise. This is the information age, and it's all about exposure. That being said, I'll still buy an album on vinyl if I've already heard it and I'm sure it's worth it. Rebuttal: No matter what, the number one factor in the enablement of creativity is accessibility. The more people hear it, the better for you, and the more creative you can be next time around. The guys in Converge were actually happy that the album leaked. Some of us aren’t content waiting for one album by one band. We listen to hundreds of new albums every single day, thus increasing our exposure to new artists, an what artists care about most is if people are hearing their music. Waiting is not fun at all, waiting doesn’t make the music better, all it does is make expectations way too high. Unless you’re buying a vinyl (which I really love, but is also impossible to afford if you want to hear hundreds of new albums in a day), the artwork is reduced to a tiny little pamphlet. Nobody watches bands on YouTube instead of seeing them live, however, having music be a click away whenever you want it enables people to listen to much more music by many more artists. Any smart artist would WANT people to hear their music for free and as soon as it’s ready to be heard, not after months and months of waiting even though the product is complete. I know personally, I’m just as pumped if not more pumped when I see that an album is available on the internet than I am when it comes out in stores. I’m just as excited to hear the music, and if the music is good, I’m just as eager to give the band my money by seeing them live and buying their merchandise. This is the information age, and it’s all about exposure. That being said, I’ll still buy an album on vinyl if I’ve already heard it and I’m sure it’s worth it.

]]> By: SourDeez http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319847 SourDeez Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:36:48 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319847 The build-up of a release date is meaningless. It's certainly nothing like sex, that's the most retarded comparison I've ever heard. All it does is make you hope/think the album is going to be incredible, and 9 times out of 10 the album is just pretty good. So when you download a leaked album and it's pretty good, you see it as such. But when you wait and finally buy a hyped up album that's been complete for 4 months on its release date, you often see it as a piece of shit because it couldn't live up to your overblown expectations, The build-up of a release date is meaningless. It’s certainly nothing like sex, that’s the most retarded comparison I’ve ever heard. All it does is make you hope/think the album is going to be incredible, and 9 times out of 10 the album is just pretty good. So when you download a leaked album and it’s pretty good, you see it as such. But when you wait and finally buy a hyped up album that’s been complete for 4 months on its release date, you often see it as a piece of shit because it couldn’t live up to your overblown expectations,

]]> By: \m/Eluveitie\m/ http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319638 \m/Eluveitie\m/ Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:02:15 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319638 I know that, but I mean if the album has already been released I know that, but I mean if the album has already been released

]]> By: Josh http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319268 Josh Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:32:49 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319268 he listens to waking the cadaver. All credibility=destroyed. he listens to waking the cadaver. All credibility=destroyed.

]]> By: Stabitha C. http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319224 Stabitha C. Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:20:17 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319224 Well, for one, in this case the album isn't out yet. Well, for one, in this case the album isn’t out yet.

]]> By: chauncey chompers http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319206 chauncey chompers Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:07:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319206 I completely agree. you summed up very well what all these retards need to understand. I think a lot of leaking culture or whatever is initiated by the very same young kids who cant wait two minutes let alone two weeks for anything these days anymore. half the fun is waiting. shit. I preordered the skeletonwitch vinyl as soon as it went up and am super pumped for it. Im sure its leaked, but im not going to find it. Ill hear it when I get my copy with the art like the band intended. call me old and bitter (and Im not quite 30) but fuck man, you're right this is how you get bands like attack attack and thats what people deserve. I completely agree. you summed up very well what all these retards need to understand. I think a lot of leaking culture or whatever is initiated by the very same young kids who cant wait two minutes let alone two weeks for anything these days anymore. half the fun is waiting. shit. I preordered the skeletonwitch vinyl as soon as it went up and am super pumped for it. Im sure its leaked, but im not going to find it. Ill hear it when I get my copy with the art like the band intended. call me old and bitter (and Im not quite 30) but fuck man, you’re right this is how you get bands like attack attack and thats what people deserve.

]]> By: ted http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319170 ted Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:13:32 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319170 guys, come off it. "@metalsucks Ha we thanked the guy. Nothing negative was said by us. Thanks everyone." http://twitter.com/Convergecult/status/4636376587 guys, come off it.

“@metalsucks Ha we thanked the guy. Nothing negative was said by us. Thanks everyone.”

http://twitter.com/Convergecult/status/4636376587

]]> By: Sam http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319141 Sam Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:19:27 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319141 I think the funniest part is, he'd be willing to go to jail for serious assault type stuff because he found a virus... I think the funniest part is, he’d be willing to go to jail for serious assault type stuff because he found a virus…

]]> By: WowWee! http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319129 WowWee! Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:08:00 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319129 Who doesn't like online shit talkers with no balls to be found? Who doesn’t like online shit talkers with no balls to be found?

]]> By: Tyler http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/06/regarding-the-leak-of-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-319115 Tyler Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:54:20 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=22011#comment-319115 To the people that are angry at metalsucks: you all need to get laid. Chill the fuck out, I doubt the guys in Converge really care. To the people that are angry at metalsucks: you all need to get laid. Chill the fuck out, I doubt the guys in Converge really care.

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