Comments on: JUMPING DARKNESS PARADE: EYAL ON DRUM TRIGGERS

By: Noel

Noel — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:48:38 +0000

oops, meant sensore….as in to sense…

By: Noel

Noel — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:47:34 +0000

actually 90 percent of drum triggers [modern ones] have senore tech in them, so if ya hit like a bitch, a weaker sound comes out. hit hard, louder sound.

By: Facebook User

Facebook User — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:21:45 +0000

I’m really hoping that was a metaphor regarding how a lot of singers/vocalists these days (not in metal) can suck major D and still sell tons of albums. Kanye West anyone?

By: Facebook User

Facebook User — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:17:39 +0000

Agreed. It’s alway better to hear a touring musician’s take on stuff…especially something most people wouldn’t know a thing about unless they read the two articles. Thank you to Eyal for the great explanation, as always.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:55:55 +0000

Awesome. Thank you for that.

By: ZapBranigan

ZapBranigan — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:50:02 +0000

Exactly. That’s my biggest problem with triggering. That the drums don’t sound like real drums anymore. If you’re sampling real drum sounds and not using some electronic crap, then it’s just a different way of getting your drum sound into the PA.

By: Josh

Josh — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:33:16 +0000

A drum trigger is an electronic sensor placed near the bass drum head (or in some cases, other drums) that is set off by vibration, and send out a sampled drum sound. Think of it like the button on a drum machine is attached to an actual bass drum. No matter how hard or light the drum is hit, the sound is the same. Now, the sensitivity can be seriously adjusted, depending on the play style of the drummer.

By: Zosimus

Zosimus — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:53:43 +0000

2″ 24-TRACK EDITED WITH A RAZOR BLADE OR DETH

By: Slaughterhouse

Slaughterhouse — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:54:00 +0000

Vinnie Paul has the best blend of Triggers mixed with Mic’d kicks…They cut right through but still have some balls to them!!!!!!!!

By: Eyal Levi

Eyal Levi — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:01:22 +0000

properly to get the right tone out of the drum, not talking about consistency

By: Joe Rull

Joe Rull — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:55:01 +0000

Dave Lombardo is a prime example of playing fast and not hitting like a pussy in my eyes.

Sure he doesn’t play the ridiculous stupid deathcore shit, but the guy is incredible.

By: hikizume

hikizume — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:15:26 +0000

I don’t think that’s it. If a drummer can’t play a part you could always copy/paste his kicks right? You wouldn’t have to rely on triggers for that.

My beef is with bands having their drums on their records sound so sterile and generic.

By: Eyal Levi

Eyal Levi — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:55:29 +0000

You don’t get the right sound or feel out of the drums by tapping

And there’s plenty of dudes who can play fast as fuck and still hit like men

Unless if you’re getting into ridiculous speeds

At that point I guess it doesn’t matter anyways because its going to be impossible to understand what’s going on when the band plays live

By: Eyal Levi

Eyal Levi — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:53:06 +0000

It has more to do with most drummers not being able to play double bas properly

By: Ben

Ben — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:42:20 +0000

I know the pedal you’re talking about but I can’t remember the name either. I don’t see any problem with it. All it is is a pitch shifter, basically. It’s a digitech whammy with a knob instead of an expression pedal. It’s not like it can be used to autotune individual notes. All it’s good for is lowering your tuning without actually doing so. And it’s not like it even does that perfectly. The tracking is still a bit off from what I’ve heard.

By: hikizume

hikizume — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:12:42 +0000

Bringing the triggers on tour IS the solution against all the cons a band could come across (shitty sound guy, shitty kit, etc.) No one can argue with that.

I can see drummers using them for the reasons mike portnoy explained on that video. Slipknot’s sound is different than radiohead’s. Also, some drummers might want to blend the sound of their kit with other samples that are available on some of these drum modules to create a custom sound of their own. Hey, that’s cool too.

But what is it with some bands using them on records like actual drum sounds are out of style??!?!?!

What is it with bands either recording with people that are completely unable to track a drum kit properly or just taking the whole drum tracking process for granted instead of saving a few bucks and taking the time to have a decent drummer use a decent kit to lay down the drum tracks at a decent studio where there’s a guy who knows how to do his job decently?!?!

Doesn’t it bother this bands that they all have the same dm5 sound!??!

stop abusing sound replacer you whack jobs!!!

By: pariah

pariah — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:53:09 +0000

the way they’re used on after the burials rareform is SO wrong to my ears. it just sounds wrong, and too mechanic. i heard they changed the samples for their re-issue of the album, so i’m going to check it out, because the album itself is really good.

By: Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:28:23 +0000

Not exactly sure but i know its in the last couple issues of Guitarworld. Alas i stand corrected, it IS a pain in the ass to change tunings on Floyd rosed guitars. I stand humbled.

By: Tony Mallory

Tony Mallory — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:51:34 +0000

This is just my opinion, but complaining about triggers on drums is like complaining about distortion on guitar, for almost the same reasons. I’ve played metal guitar since I was 12, and I know from experience that power is the enemy of speed, in order to play fast, one must play efficiently, I don’t see why drums would be any different. “Tappers” play the way the do because it’s the most efficient way to get the speed they need. Pick up an acoustic guitar and play “Reign in Blood” I bet all of your pickstrokes won’t be even either (assuming you’re playing heavily) AND if they are even it’s because you’ve probably traded power (or strength of the pickstroke) for a more even feel.

Nowadays, what I look for in a drummer is timing and composition skills, IMO these are infinitely more important then how hard and fast they can play. Besides, as metal gets faster and the guitar hero generation grows up to advance to real drums, “tapping” will be an inevitable reality, and that ok, so long as drummers don’t forget to write cool parts.

By: Michiel

Michiel — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:55:51 +0000

Me too!