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	<title>Comments on: THE SAME, BUT DIFFERENT: CONVERGE&#8217;S AXE TO FALL</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-333541</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know about 500 people who&#039;d kill you where you stand for calling Converge a &quot;small to mid level band&quot;.  Converge are one of the few bands to stand two decades, and are some of the few elder statesmen of hardcore.  Granted, they may not have the exposure that Deathklok does, but the bulk of their (Converge&#039;s) fans are as rabid as the fans in Metalocalypse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know about 500 people who&#8217;d kill you where you stand for calling Converge a &#8220;small to mid level band&#8221;.  Converge are one of the few bands to stand two decades, and are some of the few elder statesmen of hardcore.  Granted, they may not have the exposure that Deathklok does, but the bulk of their (Converge&#8217;s) fans are as rabid as the fans in Metalocalypse.</p>
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		<title>By: B-dizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-dizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go listen to the new song Cutter and come back and tell me there&#039;s no groove</description>
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		<title>By: Dillon</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-332885</link>
		<dc:creator>Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as Ive always loved to get my nuts kicked in by Converge, this album didnt really hit me to that effect. Im sure one day soon it will and ill probably jam it for a couple weeks. But I gave it a few spins and im still just not getting into it. Maybe ive heard enough of Converge&#039;s anthemic hardcore holocaust. Or maybe their new stuff just isnt doin it for me. Either way, they still kill shit but Axe To Fall is sounding kinda weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as Ive always loved to get my nuts kicked in by Converge, this album didnt really hit me to that effect. Im sure one day soon it will and ill probably jam it for a couple weeks. But I gave it a few spins and im still just not getting into it. Maybe ive heard enough of Converge&#8217;s anthemic hardcore holocaust. Or maybe their new stuff just isnt doin it for me. Either way, they still kill shit but Axe To Fall is sounding kinda weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Truant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;re right, converge are terrible.  Despite the fact that you know, just about every album they&#039;ve put out is considered a classic. 

But no, you&#039;re right, they lack any groove or variety.  You alone are correct, and everyone else in the metal community is wrong.

Get the fuck over yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re right, converge are terrible.  Despite the fact that you know, just about every album they&#8217;ve put out is considered a classic. </p>
<p>But no, you&#8217;re right, they lack any groove or variety.  You alone are correct, and everyone else in the metal community is wrong.</p>
<p>Get the fuck over yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: RICHARD DAWKINS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICHARD DAWKINS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU CERTAINLY ARE CLEVER.

HERE, HAVE A PhD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU CERTAINLY ARE CLEVER.</p>
<p>HERE, HAVE A PhD.</p>
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		<title>By: Did you just piss on my xbox?</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-331244</link>
		<dc:creator>Did you just piss on my xbox?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of D. Boon</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-330278</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ghost of D. Boon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. I gave Jane Doe a try a few months ago and I just couldn&#039;t get through it. This I can&#039;t stop listening to, and it makes me want to listen to more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I gave Jane Doe a try a few months ago and I just couldn&#8217;t get through it. This I can&#8217;t stop listening to, and it makes me want to listen to more.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of D. Boon</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-330277</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ghost of D. Boon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty cool. That&#039;s probably the smartest thing a small-to-mid-level band playing support on one of those big metal package tours could do, besides blowing the fans away with their live performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty cool. That&#8217;s probably the smartest thing a small-to-mid-level band playing support on one of those big metal package tours could do, besides blowing the fans away with their live performance.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of D. Boon</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-330274</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ghost of D. Boon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.

My first impression of this record was how much &quot;swagger&quot; the riffs had. It feels an awful lot like the Southern sludge, stoner and power groove bands, played at 78rpm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>My first impression of this record was how much &#8220;swagger&#8221; the riffs had. It feels an awful lot like the Southern sludge, stoner and power groove bands, played at 78rpm</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there is no groove. and if you call going four min + straight without changing direction...&quot;

COMPLETE BULLSHIT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is no groove. and if you call going four min + straight without changing direction&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>COMPLETE BULLSHIT.</p>
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		<title>By: mrak</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328914</link>
		<dc:creator>mrak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>converge can be very inaccessible to new ears. you have to give it a chance. there is a reason they&#039;ve been around this long. open your ears and mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>converge can be very inaccessible to new ears. you have to give it a chance. there is a reason they&#8217;ve been around this long. open your ears and mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Did you just piss on my xbox?</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328833</link>
		<dc:creator>Did you just piss on my xbox?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol.

some fans can be so pissy. how dare you not like this band arrrrrrghhhh. 

there is no groove. and if you call going four min + straight without changing direction , and awful screaming than dosnet change one time through out the whole song structure, than this band is full of it.

the head line for this thread is the same but difrrent....

i checked on youtube and listend to 5 songs. just so i wasnt going by their new video. and yeah. its all the same. zzzzzzz.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.</p>
<p>some fans can be so pissy. how dare you not like this band arrrrrrghhhh. </p>
<p>there is no groove. and if you call going four min + straight without changing direction , and awful screaming than dosnet change one time through out the whole song structure, than this band is full of it.</p>
<p>the head line for this thread is the same but difrrent&#8230;.</p>
<p>i checked on youtube and listend to 5 songs. just so i wasnt going by their new video. and yeah. its all the same. zzzzzzz&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Reaper Man</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328749</link>
		<dc:creator>Reaper Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally this album blew my mind straight away, and only continues to do so even more with every listen. Fighting it out with Crack The Skye for album of the year.

Jane Doe &gt; Axe To Fall &gt; No Heroes &gt; When Forever Comes Crashing &gt; Caring And Killing &gt; Petitioning The Empty Sky &gt; You Fail Me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally this album blew my mind straight away, and only continues to do so even more with every listen. Fighting it out with Crack The Skye for album of the year.</p>
<p>Jane Doe &gt; Axe To Fall &gt; No Heroes &gt; When Forever Comes Crashing &gt; Caring And Killing &gt; Petitioning The Empty Sky &gt; You Fail Me</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328738</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not unlike someone who doesn&#039;t &quot;get&quot; Obituary after going their whole lives thinking Motley Crue was the heaviest thing in existence. it takes time to appreciate. no different with Converge. a understanding of hardcore music could help. start with Black Flag. ready for the next step? try some Cro-Mags. wanna hear where Converge borrowed their sound from? get some Rorschach. gone too far? maybe this isn&#039;t your thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not unlike someone who doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; Obituary after going their whole lives thinking Motley Crue was the heaviest thing in existence. it takes time to appreciate. no different with Converge. a understanding of hardcore music could help. start with Black Flag. ready for the next step? try some Cro-Mags. wanna hear where Converge borrowed their sound from? get some Rorschach. gone too far? maybe this isn&#8217;t your thing.</p>
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		<title>By: I, Monarch</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328734</link>
		<dc:creator>I, Monarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a fucking idiot if you think they &quot;lack structure&quot;. Maybe it&#039;s just too complex for your simple mind to understand. You do understand that extreme metal contains complex structures do you not? I take it you&#039;re not a fan of complex death metal either?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a fucking idiot if you think they &#8220;lack structure&#8221;. Maybe it&#8217;s just too complex for your simple mind to understand. You do understand that extreme metal contains complex structures do you not? I take it you&#8217;re not a fan of complex death metal either?</p>
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		<title>By: Matty K</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328731</link>
		<dc:creator>Matty K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To have someone on this website saying &quot;just noise to me&quot; is absolutely hilarious. This is a metal site isn&#039;t it? I mean, that might just be the most eye rolling comment you could make here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To have someone on this website saying &#8220;just noise to me&#8221; is absolutely hilarious. This is a metal site isn&#8217;t it? I mean, that might just be the most eye rolling comment you could make here.</p>
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		<title>By: shiv</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328724</link>
		<dc:creator>shiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because Dethklok fans are idiots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because Dethklok fans are idiots</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="714617966">Jacob Wanous</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328693</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="714617966">Jacob Wanous</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get into this band at all.  Maybe it&#039;s the vocals, maybe it&#039;s the complete lack of structure, but I simply can&#039;t get into it.

I was at the Mastodon/Dethklok show in Mpls, MN on Friday, and Converge opened for them.  Personally, I thought they put on a terrible show.  Their instruments were so distorted that I couldn&#039;t even tell if they were in tune, and the lead singer was basically just barking into the microphone.  The crowd boo&#039;d them as they left the stage, and while I waited in line to go to the bathroom between sets, all everyone was talking about was how terrible of a performance it was.  There were some people up front that were apparently digging it, but the majority definitely wasn&#039;t.

To each their own I guess.  There must be something there that I just don&#039;t see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get into this band at all.  Maybe it&#8217;s the vocals, maybe it&#8217;s the complete lack of structure, but I simply can&#8217;t get into it.</p>
<p>I was at the Mastodon/Dethklok show in Mpls, MN on Friday, and Converge opened for them.  Personally, I thought they put on a terrible show.  Their instruments were so distorted that I couldn&#8217;t even tell if they were in tune, and the lead singer was basically just barking into the microphone.  The crowd boo&#8217;d them as they left the stage, and while I waited in line to go to the bathroom between sets, all everyone was talking about was how terrible of a performance it was.  There were some people up front that were apparently digging it, but the majority definitely wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>To each their own I guess.  There must be something there that I just don&#8217;t see.</p>
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		<title>By: Fong Chung</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328604</link>
		<dc:creator>Fong Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUY this record when it comes out.  Trust me it&#039;s amazing, and I got my preorder copy this past Saturday.  Definetly looking at an album of the year nomination here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUY this record when it comes out.  Trust me it&#8217;s amazing, and I got my preorder copy this past Saturday.  Definetly looking at an album of the year nomination here.</p>
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		<title>By: teaches_of_peaches</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/19/the-same-but-different-converges-axe-to-fall/#comment-328584</link>
		<dc:creator>teaches_of_peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Their previous albums were growers for me, while this one instantly won me over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Their previous albums were growers for me, while this one instantly won me over.</p>
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