DAVE MUSTAINE VS. ROADRUNNER RECORDS
Tuesday, October 20th, 2009 at 1:30pm by Axl Rosenberg
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Dave Mustaine is a brilliant fucking musician, but that doesn’t mean he’s not also a whiney little bitch.
Reader Elvin sent us the below, which Mustaine apparently posted on the Megadeth forums:
Droogies!
I don’t know what to say.
How a record company could be presented with a Worldwide [sic] critically acclaimed record, and that they can let it plummet down the charts in just four weeks into the hundreds, is inexplicable.
I knew I shouldn’t have done this. Why didn’t I trust myself?
I regret a lot of things in my life, but this is the most regretable [sic].
A very disgusted Megaman.
Now let me tell you why I have a serious problem with what Mustaine is saying.
Yes, in an ideal world, Endgame would be selling many, many more copies. It is, as Elvin pointed out to us in his e-mail, a far better record than Death Magnetic, and it will only scan a fraction of the units of that album.
But that’s not really Roadrunner’s fault.
Roadrunner promoted the hell outta Endgame. Roadrunner was smart – they knew they had a good product – and they sent out advance copies to some media outlets (including this one) as far back as July, more than two months prior to the album’s release, knowing that excited Meganerds who now write about metal for a living (or semi-living, as the case may be) would talk up the record. And they were right – every major metal site and magazine had positive things to say about Endgame (as Mustaine himself notes), and were hyping it for weeks and weeks and weeks prior to its release.
But Roadrunner didn’t stop there. They let the fans hear “Head Crusher” – about as good a single as you were gonna select off that album – weeks in advance of the release. And how many ads did you see for Endgame – on this site, on other sites, in magazines? Then there was the music video, the touring with Slayer and other high-profile acts, plus the endless stream of Mustaine interviews, which got posted and re-posted by Blabbermouth, us, and just about everyone else.
The awareness was out there. The metal community knew the album was coming.
And Mustaine’s core fan base all turned out and bought Endgame when it first came out. If its sales in subsequent weeks weren’t as high, well, that’s pretty much par for the course these days (a 50% drop in sales the second week of release is pretty average), especially with metal, where you’re dealing with a niche market. Add to that the fact that record sales in general are down all across the board, that there are kids who are just going to download everything illegally pretty much no matter what, and… well… what the fuck was Dave expecting?
To continue to sell thousands and thousands of copies a week, Dave would need to be reaching out to the non-metal community. Frat boys and party girls, kids who don’t normally listen to metal. It’s not like every metal fan in the world bought Metallica and that was all there was to it. Every metal fan in the world bought Metallica, but so did a gajillion other people, because songs like “Enter Sandman” and “Sad But True” and “The Unforgiven” and “Nothing Else Matters” had cross-over appeal.
There’s nothing like that on Endgame. Which is fine. It’s not a judgment. But Endgame is a metal record, not a rock record, and, as such, it was going to have a roof on its success. But that’s why you hear all the tr00 kids defending Mustaine as the pure artiste while they damn Metallica as sell-outs. Mustaine can’t have it both ways. He can’t stay true to metal and sell millions of albums. (And if “Crush ‘Em” is any indication, he’s not very good at selling out anyway.) And it’s worth noting that he’s still out on the road, still giving interviews left and right, still playing to big crowds every night. If he’s not winning new fans, he doesn’t really have anyone to blame but himself and maybe the current climate of general record sales.
I know that the cool thing to do is to point the finger at the big bad suits, and I know that Roadrunner is out favor in certain circles of the metal community right now because they’re not tr00 enough or whatever, but really, they haven’t done anything wrong here. This is just yet another instance of Mustaine blaming other people for his problems.
-AR
Word.
I’ll agree with you that Mustaine is a whiny, whiny bitch.
However, Mustaine is FAR from a brilliant musician. Mustaine is pure and utter crap. The fact that he still has a successful metal career fucking boggles my mind.
It’s not really him. He’s been carried by the rest of the musicians in his band. Now that he has Chris Fucking Broderick he’ll never have to write a lick again.
Nate, you are also a fucking moron.
Sean, you are a fucking moron. Mustaine has more talent in his knee cap than you or anyone in your family will EVER possess.
Once again, you are a major fucking moron.
It’s fucking you again asshole? Shouldn’t you be somewhere bagging on Dimebags’ shit? I really think you are an ass. You know what? I put the gap in Biff Tannen’s asshole.
Show me Dave Mustaine’s kneecap playing Rachmaninoff’s Piano Concerto No. 2 (read: both my mother and I can play that – knock my family and I’ll fucking destroy you) and I’ll agree with you.
Otherwise, shut your fucking face.
Your family sucks dick
Oh noes are you going to destroy me now???
Wow, you guys are turning into a bunch of blabbershits. What happened to intelligent, thoughtful metalhead conversation ah
Goodness.
It’s a figure of speech, fuckface. You want to knock the bands I enjoy, fine. But be mature and don’t talk shit about my family. Or is that asking too much of the MetalSucks membership?
“knock my family and I’ll fucking destroy you” Bwahahahaha !!
O’Doyle Rules !!! you fucking moron. Go listen to some more Pantera, you mouth breathing meathead.
“Crush ‘Em”? I’ll chalk that one up to a Freudian slip.
Risk wasn’t a great album, nor was that song particularly representative of “not selling out.”
You meant “Head Crusher,” right?
Actually, it says that ‘Crush ‘Em’ is an indication that he’s not very good at selling out, not that he’s very good at not selling out.
I completey argee with Dave on this one. He always seemed like a cool dude to me. I would give my left nut to hang out with him.
Say WHAAT?
I’ve met him… he was a total dick, but that does nothing to lower the absolute quality of his music.
I did not write that, Cobra clutch master had me under a spell…..
I went out and bought a copy and I didn’t even like Megadeth
And guess what? I fucking love it, it’s a great album
It was because of this site and people talking about it that I did it
So if you can make someone who is not a fan go out and BUY a copy, mission accomplished. Does Dave care? Probably not
this
No might I suggest buying every other album besides Risk. You’ll find that you will like a lot of that stuff too, particularly the first 6 albums but focus more on the first 5.
*now
“Crush ‘Em” was Dave’s attempt at writing a sports arena anthem (By metalheads, for meatheads) and a single from the putrid Risk. It is a piece of garbage.
Whenever I read Mustaine quotes in my head I head the “Hello me its me again” voice from Sweating Bullets.
This. Instead of singing, Mustaine should just record a whole album using that voice.
hasn’t he?
Several of them, actually.
Sorry, Endgame isn’t a “far better record than Death Magnetic”. Endgame, while technically proficient, is extremely weak on actual SONG structure. DM is full of soul and personality…..and SONGS that people keep coming back to. Endgame is just guitar wank coupled with easily the worst vocals and lyrics Dave has ever recorded…..and that’s saying something. There is nothing memorable about Endgame. There are no songs like Blackmail the Universe, Die Dead Enough, Sleepwalker, Washington is Next, or Kick the Chair on Endgame……songs you’d actually want to have in a Megadeth set if you were seeing them once every 3 or 4 years.
Just saw Metallica twice this month and the crowds are LOVING the DM stuff. Don’t think so? Listen to 18,000 people screaming “what don’t kill ya make ya more strong!” at the top of their lungs. Singing ever word of the DM material. I’ve probably listened to Endgame 20 or so times all the way through and I can’t even remember how any of the songs go until I pop the disc back in. THAT is and always has been the difference. That’s why Metallica doesn’t need to do co-headline tours to sell out arenas and stadiums all over the world, but Megadeth does. If Megadeth tried to play Madison Square Garden with a couple of smaller time support acts he’d be playing to a house filled to about 30% capacity. That is a stone cold FACT.
apart from all that intelligence you just expressed i would like to say this. I like turtles
right on man. my feelings exactly
I would like to point out that the “Dave” from this post is actually Dave Mustaine.
Thank you for not hanging on Endgame’s balls and sticking up for DM. Metallica’s latest obviously isn’t a classic or anything but it does beat the shit out of Shitstaine’s effort. And him whining about it not selling enough only shows how upset and desperate he is about the album not going as good as he thought.
Dave, you are a fucking moron. Engame has PLENTY of SONGS. Each and every song on it is memorable. I would LOVE to hear any song off that album played live (except 44 min…don’t like that one). “Guitar wank”? I fucking HATE guitar wank/shred garbage, but the shredding on Endgame is great, has feeling behind it and fits each song perfectly.
If you can’t remember the songs until you pop the disc back in, that’s your fucking problem… I can hum anyone of the fucking tunes, after only a few listens.
“what don’t kill ya make ya more strong!” Thats a perfect example of the morons that think DM is a good record.
I second that. Death Magnetics songs are way too long and they basically suck. I tried with that album, I really did, but I just couldn’t. Was I impressed at first? Yes, it was a better that usual Metallica record, but not a GREAT Metallica record. I think some of you just can not stomach the idea that Mustaine and Megadeth made a better album that Metallica’s “Epic” Death Magnetic. News flash. It’s done, it has happened and in fact a lot of bands made better record in the last year than Metallica, like Testament, Kreator and countless other bands. Have they sold more than Metallica? No and few bands probably will.
It’s okay, guys. You will realize it when you actually listen to Endgame or any other record besides DM.
there are plenty of records better than death magnetic. endgame is not one of them. the other bands you mentioned (Testament, Kreator) both beat out metallica by a mile on their recent records.
Axl, you guys know that mustaine threatned to kick a female journalists ass for bringing up metallica in an interview right? Kind of got lost in the shuffle becuase Blabbermouth mysteriosuly went down right after, but its still up there
No, Kevin. Watch the interview. There was no threat. Stop feeding off of Blabbermouth’s misleading titles. it was a good interview and he actually gave her more time than his press manager was going to allow.
He said this AFTER the interview. Get your facts straight.
Yeah apparently I missed that part, but it was in the Megadeth forums. Does that really constitute as a threat. I could say “next time I see you post, I’m going to put you in the hospital”. Is that really a threat? Do you feel threatened? No. Why? Because it’s the internet and everyone says shit that they don’t really mean or intend to follow through with. The only people who have ever actually followed through with are the two douche bags from Emmure and The Acacia Strain.
If I were the chick that interviewed him I would feel more offended that he didn’t even remember who I was or the fact that he can’t remember what sexual gender I was. Threatened? No, cause honestly what would the chances be of Mustaine confronting her and putting her in the hospital? None. Blabbermouth is just feeding their stats and trying to rack up more page-views so they can sell more ads and make more money.
Say what you want about Roadrunner – and people often do – but from what I’ve seen over here in the UK their press officers work very hard for their bands. Even Madina Lake.
It’s sad to see Mustaine continuously making a fool of himself lately and lashing out at people – sometimes he’s been on the money with things he’s said but it’s a different catastrophe with him every day now. He’s still one of the most interesting personalities as far as I’m concerned in metal but he seems intent on burning bridges.
The UK branch of Roadrunner generally seems to have their shit together. The US branch, not so much.
I second this, VERY hard working people over in that office.
I recall a forum post by Mustaine that said pretty much what you did in your first paragraph — the UK/European Roadrunner works their ass off, and the US branch sits around doing dick all.
It doesn’t surprise me, though. The US music scene is terrifuckable.
While I like ‘Death Magnetic’ more than ‘Endgame’, that’s not any slight toward ‘Endgame’, which is a great album. I just really liked ‘Death Magnetic’.
I’m gonna go on record saying Megadeth have been shit since Peace Sells… And I contribute that to being only a youngster when it was released. So in retrospect Megadeth probably has always been shit. His cringe inducing vocal delivery is the sonic equivalant of jabbing broken pieces of glass into my anus. I really can’t adequately bash Dave enough in print without building a towering effigy and setting it on fire.
His hair is still soo pretty though.
+1
You are my hero Joseph Smith. I could of said it any better about Mustaine’s vocals. With that being said I am not a MegaDeth fan nor do I own a single MegaDeth album…for a reason. His vocals make me want gauge my eyes out. I tried to like them I did I swear. They suck.
At this point shouldn’t it be about the fucking music and not how much cash you can make? This guys has more money than 90% of metal musicians. Yeah, Endgame was a decent album, but that’s it. It wasn’t groundbreaking or even on par with Rust in Peace or Peaces Sells. Everyone on this site is quick to mention Metallica and the Black Album(I was disappointed in that album when it came out as well) but no one ever mentions Megadeth’s far shittier RISK album. Dave tried to sell out and failed.
Oh yeah…The picture of Mustaine on this post is perfect.
so true. Load is wayyyyy better than Risk. and the world needs a hero? gimme a break.
So is it better to try selling out once and fail or do it three times and be successful at it proving that was the ultimate goal all along? Personally, I’m glad he failed at selling out. It may have taken him an album or two to get things rolling again but at least Mustaine is trying without trying too hard with 15 minute songs about love being a 4 letter word and shit.
LOVE IS A 4-LETTER WOHOOORD. AND NEVAH SPOKEN HEEEAH
Couldn’t agree more with this post. I stuck with Megadeth as a fan all the way up through The System Has Failed, even though that album and the one before it both pretty much sucked aside from a handful of songs. Since then, he hasn’t been able to shut up, and whoever gave him access to the internet made it far, far worse. He constantly speaks out of both sides of his mouth, says one thing, regrets it, says it again, etc. He is an amazing guitarist and songwriter, and I thought Endgame was okay from what I heard, but the fact that he can’t even grasp how the music business works nowadays, especially for someone supposedly so “internet savvy,” just shows how out of touch and selfish this asshole really is. Oh, and he can’t sing live for shit.
I bought Endgame, personally I thought Death Magnetic was better. I dont see what hes mad at, I’m guessing he still made a lot of money. Oh well, I’ll always like Mustaine, if only because were both long haired gingers.
Thats fucking nasty !
BTW- great screen name !
“He’s got a bloody good double !!! “
Agree with this post 100%
But I don’t really care now since Faith No More is now officially planning US dates.
A whiny bitch vs. an irrelevant label.
How fun. With that said, they didn’t really botch the promo, although it should have been more clever like the word thingy Metallica did to reveal the album title, etc.. I may hate Metallica, but they did a great job at promoting Death Magnetic.
The word game, releasing a song every two weeks before the release, the video blog things they did, these are just a handful of the stuff they did to promote that CD. And it worked quite well
Piss Turkey.
Shit Flamingo
Jizz Toucan
Ass Cobra
honestly, I don’t buy into the endgame hype. I was actually rather disappointed in the album in general. maybe I wouldn’t have been disappointed if I didn’t hear so much hype over it first. But honestly, I don’t think endgame is any better than United Abominations or The system has failed. In fact, I think it is inferior to those previous two albums he’s released.
I also disagree that endgame is clearly better than death magnetic. Death magnetic all day over endgame.
roadrunner signed nickelback
and slipknot
and coal chamber
and fear factory
and theory of a deadman
and devildriver
and cky
and airbourne
and trivium
this label is poop
Apart from Devildriver and a few Slipknot tunes, I totally agree with you. Any good bands they ever have don’t get the promotion they deserve, while Nickelback manages to make plenty of cash from “Something In Your Mouth”. Which is a real song. I looked it up.
nothin wrong with fear factory
everything is wrong with fear factory
“He called the shit poop”
wait, is 5FDP on Roadrunner?
if so……FUCK this label.
They also signed Opeth and Porcupine Tree, quality bands in my book.
Coal Chamber:
A classic band to be remembered for all history.
And without the money Nickelback brings to RR, many of their artists wouldn’t have gotten great support (e.g., like getting Slipknot and KsE on the radio). Or even the mass advertising and word of mouth for Endgame.
For the love of Dave Mustaine, Nickleback totally sucks. I am subjected to it sometimes on the radio here at work in shipping. Oh, and don’t even get me started on that Sexy Back song. Pure torture!!!
Opeth and Porcupine Tree
Nuff said.
They also signed Opeth and Porcupine Tree. But the rest is pure shit
Even Sepultura, Machine Head and Deicide?
in addition to seriously promoting the album before it dropped, theyre doing a serious promoting job even now. at every dethklok/mastodon, hatebreed/cannibal corpse, or metallica show, there will be at least one member of the road crew handing out Endgame swag. ill b in philly 4 dethklok/mastodon in 2 weeks and thats what ill be doing. in general roadrunner takes care of their bands, promoting them at any and every metal show, whether the band performing is roadrunner or not. but like axl said, record sales r crap nowadays. who in this country actually bought a cd in the last 6 months? really…
I’ve bought at least 10 cds, and about 20 vinyls. Speak for yourself.
well im very proud of u. if u must know, i buy albums as well. cant say i bought any vinyls, i dont own a record player or anything. ive bought one vinyl in my life, and that was Dream Theater’s BC&SL deluxe edition (didn’t buy it for the vinyl though, was hoping 4 a silver ticket).
regardless, i wasnt calling anyone out personally, i was just making a general statement that happens to be 1) true, and 2) with exceptions. ur helping to keep the record industry alive, good on u
You should buy more vinyl, man! It sounds so much better, and obviously the packaging is better as well, especially if the album has good artwork,you can see it in all it’s glory.
Seriously, vinyl is the way to go ! It also goes up in value very,very quickly. You can spend $20 on an LP today, and have that LP be woth $200 two years from now, easily.
the sound quality….. it’s an audio orgasm.
i hear u man, theres a reason vinyls still sell. the problem is it would cost me, what? a billion dollars for a quality record player? 4giv me, artwork is nice and all, but if i cant play the thing then its not worth my money…unless this vinyl business scheme of yours really will pay off…i could make millions MWAHAHAHAHAAAkayimdonenow
Well, interesting point there. I bought Endgame the first day it came out, and I like it, so there’s my support for it. I have to admit that I also enjoy Death Magnetic.
The only joy Dave has given me in life is when he use to bully Riki Rachtman on Headbanger’s Ball…that shit was funny. I also think the Metallica/Megadeth comparisons need to come to and end…I have moved on and I think both bands would be wise to do the same in the interest of preserving what’s left of their legacies.
interesting…. yeah… I have to agree with MS on this one. Dave’s up to his old tricks again… blaming everyone else for any problem that might arise.
I can say firsthand that the folks at Roadrunner are doing their jobs… we even have a Megadeth contest running on our metal review blog (featuring a large-format endgame canvas print) thanks to the Roadrunner PR people.
http://reviewsresist.com/2009/10/megadeth-contest/
(we threw in a few other goodies to round out the contest).
I love Megadeth, and Endgame is a pretty good record, but it wasn’t as BE ALL END ALL as I was expecting from the buzz. Still a pretty good record. But if Dave really wants to gain this larger appeal, he needs to do the tour that was rumored for Gigantour 09 for all those months before Slayer got thrown into the mix – Megadeth headlines with Avenged Sevenfold and Bullet For My Valentine. You’re going to draw in a lot of kids from those crowds and sell them by your performance. Let A7X play the ‘Gateway to Heavier Shit’ role the way Slipknot did for a ton of people a few years ago. And as a Megadeth fan who dislikes those other two, I’ll still go….because god damn it I wanna be on the barricade at a Megadeth show.
Dave Mustaine is a giant, throbbing dick. ‘Nuff said.
c´mon Dave… let the music talks about your work, and shut up!!!
The album could have stayed in the top 20 for 10 weeks and he’d be dissapointed. Seriously, this is the same guy who fell into a depression after Countdown to Extinction debuted at #2 and certified platinum because it didn’t have the dominant chart success that Metallica’s Black album did.
Megadeth sells but who’s buying?
I’m so clever……..
What a whiny cunt. But to be fair, Roadrunner has some SHITTY acts on that label, Nickelback, fucking Nickelback, the absolute antithesis of all things metal
but the success of Nickleback gives Roadrunner more money to spend on Smaller, less profitable bands.
This is NOT a better record than death magnetic, IMO. Much better sounding record than DM, but not the better record to me at all. The songs just dont stick with me. There is no energy to mustaine. Hetfield still has a little fire, even he is a little old and silly sometimes, mustaines is more old and even sillier, he just has better produciton.
If DM sounded like endgame, or had the production of black album it would be a far better listen to me. Mustaine is an ass, his record has been out 3 months and hes already whining about declining sales. Have you not noticed the music biz lately, dave?
I blame the internet among other things,as much as it helped the metal community it also undermined it a great deal.If you’re a fan of the band don’t just strut around with their shirt, buy the damn record.
“Hello me! Meet the real me. OH MY GOD, I’M A FUCKING DINOSAUR!”
No way, it’s a classic.
Same old bullshit, he’s a great musician, a whiny bitch and a major twat most of the time.
By the way, Dave Mustaine is probably the best internet troll ever.
+1
Now I see where you gather your inspiration.
“How do I feel of people trading files of our music? My career started in Metallica with tape trading, you know, and if someone’s curious, they wanna hear our music, that’s fine. If they wanna turn a friend onto our music, burn a couple of MP3s down on a CD and give it to a friend, that’s cool too. But if you are taking them and making them for sale, and you’re putting fake artwork in there, and you’re trying to sell hundreds or maybe even thousands of CDs, that’s fuckin’ organized bootlegging and it’s piracy and I’m against that. But someone downloading an MP3 and listening to it and saying “You know, check it out” – it doesn’t bother me. ”
*source: http://megadeth.rockmetal.art.pl/interviews_rockmetal2001.html
I wonder how Dave feels about file sharing now?
I believe RoadRunner’s US department could have invested more time and thought into promoting the record. And…Blabbermouth (through RoadRunner) could have posted more live clips and related content as opposed to the constant attention to the bullshit megadeth/Metallica thing. One thing that I agree with wholeheartedly – the “roof” placed over End Game did prevent it from reaching the larger audience which Death Magnetic has enjoyed.
“Mustaine can’t have it both ways. He can’t stay true to metal and sell millions of albums.”
There is no greater truth in all this. Personally, I am pleased to take note of Dave Mustaine ’staying true’ to metal with End Game.
I agree fully. Mustaine has an identity crisis going on, always has. He wants to be true metal incarnate, but wants to sell millions of records. You can’t do it. Metallica were the true heroes of metal until the Black album came out. They knew exactly what they were getting into. They traded metal status for fame. And it worked. Dave needs to accept that metal is a niche audience, and sales are going down the drain for everyone these days, not just him. Metallica has cross-over appeal, so you got jocks, fratboys, and hillbillies all buying it as well as metal fans. Megadeth don’t have cross-over appeal, because, gee, I dunno, they’re fucking METAL.
I’ve played Endgame and Death Pathetic side by side, seriously, Endgame blows it the fuck out of the water. The production quality is top fucking notch, the songs are catchy, heavy, aggressive, and still melodic. Death Magnetic is some sloppy ass riffs, and 6 lines of lyrics spouted over and over. I’m not a Metallica hater, they were my fucking heroes. I REALLY wanted to like DM. I wanted to like it so bad, but I can’t. It’s garbage.
“You rise, you fall, “blah blah blah. Really? An entire song of 3 lyrics?
I disagree with you in regards to Death Magnetic. Here, listen to this:
http://exit-reality.com/markiii_links.html
Three guys worked together to clean up the mess made by Fidelman. And of all the remixed/ remastered versions out there, this one is miles above the rest. It’s like listening to an entirely different record.
That said – I still perfer EndGame to Death Magnetic. Damn shame that it did not sell more, but, well – that topic has been covered.
Hahaha, yes he is whiny. Endgame is a mediocre album and Mustaine is a mediocre musician who can’t a thematic song to save his life. Death Magnetic was marginally better
And to address his complaints about lack of sales of Endgame: Every musician knows that it is ultimately up to the ARTIST to promote their album. Like em or hate em, almost everyone into heavy music knows Megadeth, and a little promotion on his part (instead of being an antisocial asshat) would probably help.
Then again, if you have an inferior album, nobody will buy it anyway. Unless you’re a rapper lol
IF it was actually Mustaine who said that. I know Metalsucks is not a real news site, but it appears you didn’t check the source to make sure it was a legitimate quote. A reader sent you something “which Mustaine ‘apparently’ posted”. That’s a pretty flimsy source. Does Mustaine regularly post to his own forum?
It’s well known that Dave did in fact post that. Christ, man – this shit and the Norweeeeeegin ‘incident is all over the place. Hell…the dude blogs his thoughts as well as lays on the ‘personal touch’ at his band’s forum. What the hell rock you been hiding under?
“It’s well known” is the illegitimate cousin of “some people say”. And frankly, I don’t log any time at band forums. I have a real job (and I prefer to waste my time here).
I don’t care if Dave’s an asshole. He made Peace Sells.
Mustaine is a brilliant musician and a metal legend – but an über douche of the highest order. Endgame is an awesome thrash album. I have tried listening to Death Magnetic several times but the sound quality is so dreadful I can’t warm up to it. I want to like it it’s just so compressed and tinny it is unlistenable.
Metal Hammer made a list of the best MegaDave quotes here:
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/9-quotes-you-wont-read-in-dave-mustaines-autobiography/
I read this quote from the page and it had me laughing for a while:
“Kudos to Metallica for writing The Black Album. I always knew that they’d top that early stuff anyway.”
So, my point being, even MegaDave himself thought his stuff wasnt any good. I think he just wants to blame his feeling of failure on something other than the terrible economy, or the fact you can Limewire entire albums for free. I’m not saying it’s right to Limewire, but I know it has hit the music industry hard.
“After yesterday’s news that Dave Mustaine’s autobiography will be released next year, WE COMPLETELY MADE UP 10 quotes that you absolutely will not read when it’s released. Warning: contains silliness.”
D’oh!
its still hilarious, whether it is true or not. I would be curious to see sources, but I think MegaDave really would say some of this stuff.
All I can say is that I hope the kids coming up now experience the same kind of feeling of wonderment and fun that Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer gave me when I was ten years old. I’m only 25, but even at this age I feel out of touch with today’s metal. There’s something about the innocence of Megadeth’s attempts at being bad-ass (robots taking over our brains, creepy women hanging babies from clotheslines in a field, etc) that was charming. Modern metal is truly music of hate, which is ok, but a different kind of thing. Kinda like the difference between the WWF and the UFC. Is UFC more legit, technical, and serious? Absolutely. But I’ll always love the Ultimate Warrior more than the Ultimate Fighter, and I’ll always love the old boys more than these double-bass-and-screaming fucks who rule the roost these days. And yeah, Mustaine’s a douche, but that’s part of what we all loved about him.
Modern metal is truly music of hate? Haha, funny. Most of it doesn’t even touch hate. It feels more like forced anger.
I bought FOUR CDs that came out that day:
Megadeth
Muse
Shadows Fall
Every Time I Die
Guess which one I listened to once, and guess which three I’ve listened to consistently since?
It’s not that Endgame was bad, but all of those other albums were much, much stronger, and most importantly, thematically consistent releases. One second Dave is singing about a bank robbery, the next song, the government, and then funny cars or some shit. There’s no focus, and every thing is to be taken at face value – funny cars aren’t an analogy for something deeper. It’s like instead of painting a picture in my mind, Dave handed me a spell-checked Microsoft Word document describing the aforementioned painting. It’s dumb and frustrating because Mustaine is allegedly somewhat intelligent, but his songwriting has gone to shit.
Are you seriously trying to find something of value in Dave Mustaine’s lyrics?
Even worse, do you seriously like Shadows Fall and Every Time I Die?
All I can say is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2KMkQLZmI
What I’m saying is, at least in his older lyrics there was enough of a pastiche to get a sense of the man’s worldview without being overly literal. I could fill in the blanks with my imagination. It at least had a modicum of consistency. Merely comparing Endgame to the CD’s a purchased that week, not an overarching comparo of my personal taste. If you want to talk technicalities, the new Megadeth isn’t as good as some of the jazz I’ve listened to recently either.
Oh no, my choice of entertainment is begrudged. I guess I should only listen to music I do not enjoy. Listening to music for pure pleasure to escape the myriad miseries of this world? Blasphemer! Burn me at the stake.
And I don’t like Futurama that much either. I find it overly maudlin. I guess that makes me a war criminal. Summon the tribunal for judgement and execution!
Please tell me what TV shows and movies to watch, what books to read, what video games to play, and whom I should sleep with so I can be as thoroughly awesome as you. Because I’m so empty and hollow without your sage guidance, and I crave to be judged purely based on the things I enjoy rather than my personality, intelligence, or reasonable good looks. Because if there’s a worse thing a human being can be, it’s unique and multi-faceted.
What a rancid little cunt you are.
Frankly, I was enjoying reading that until the last line. It was unnecessary. You had established your point well, then you had to kill the sarcastic tone and just say “LOL U A CUNT.” Leaving that last paragraph as it was would have been better.
But no Futurama? Shameful. It may have its moments of stupidity, but its moments of genius overwhelm the stupidity.
OMGZ Ziltoid strikes again with a “I H8 EVERYTHIN6 REMOTELY GENERIC OR SOMETHING THAT HAS MORE THAN 30 FANS OR SOMETHING THAT EITHER IS SUPER TECHNICAL OR THE FURTHEST AWAY FROM TECHNICAL!111!111!11″
You listen to music where the guitars sound like a can of Lysol being sprayed, don’t you?
Lysol can…new one. I’ve posted lists of what I listen to before, and the posters here know that I prefer prog, but am open to anything good, although I almost always hate sludge, stoner, deathcore, and metalcore.
My favorite producers are Devin Townsend and Jacob Hansen, who obviously make everything sound like a can of Lysol being sprayed. <_<
But you see, you enjoying Devin Townsend and shit isn’t a problem for me. No more than blaming an 8 year old girl for liking Hannah Montana. Little girls like bubblegum pop music and have done so for a millennia? Oh what a godless existence this is!
You like that style of music. Awesome. That’s your deal. Cool.
But what everyone else likes seems to be a problem to you.
Is it that hard to accept that different things make different people happy in different ways? And that it doesn’t necessarily make them misguided or otherwise in need of correction? If it’s really that hard to accept, then good luck in the outside world, man. That’s a harsh way to see the world, and I truly pity you, for happiness will elude you forever. Luckily, I know you are a child, so there’s plenty of time to grow out of it.
Furthermore, I contend that if everyone liked what you liked, you wouldn’t like it anymore, because then it would be trendy. You’d go listen to something else to maintain some outsider, holier-than-thou credibility.
The only reason I entertain these responses is because of how cutely feeble they are. It’s like a toddler flailing its arms trying to dance. Precious.
Endgame>DM imo
Mustaine wrote a lot of the previous music, why do you think he’s still playing as hard as he is?
any of the albums wouldn’t have had the sound they did, had dave not wrote the riffs.
DM? it’s just an improvement over st. anger. and let’s face it, they’ll never write another Ride the Lightning or Black Album. Metallica just won’t and probably can’t since Lars can’t play too well. He’s solid, but meh at most.
Sorry to all the people already pissed at each other over this, but really? go kill for religion or something.
music shouldn’t bring people ready to stab each other in the face.
Ive never properly tried listening to megadeath , partly becouse what i have heard hasnt really impressed me and partly becouse of Dave Mustaine, He seems like he’s just some stupid christian who think he’s gods gift to metal. Im quite happy to not be a fan of megadeath.
Your missing out on some of the best metal of all time, buddy.’
Killing is my Business…and business is good
Peace Sells….But who’s Buying ?
So Far, So good……so what?
Rust in Piece.
ALL of those are MANDATORY records. MANDATORY.
I’m an atheist and I still think Peace Sells is god’s gift to metal.
If dave want’s to sell more records, then he needs to tour with a band that ’s popular but not thrash or really even metal.
Both Metallica and Megadeth can play and write, whether or not you like their current fare is another story.
Both bands are talented…That’s self evident.
What a great fucking article.
You know what the problem with the new Megadeth album is? The artwork is fucking retarded, so I downloaded it instead. It’s solid, but I couldn’t buy it becuase of the eyesore that it is. I bought Metallica’s Death Magnetic, becuase it was 10 bucks and it looks great. Problem there is the album is boring as fuck so It’s already been sold to cheapo. New Slayer now? Good balance there. It’s shallow to say that metal needs the solid art work to sell the cd’s but it does, if you’re going to be one of the few markets where you can still sell cd’s to people who consider themselves collectors, it’s gotta fucking look nice, becuase there are easier and cheaper ways to get it now.