“DEATHCORE IS NOT SCENE”
Wednesday, October 21st, 2009 at 11:00am by Axl RosenbergMeet Senor Bivins. I read about him this morning on Sergeant D’s Stuff You Will Hate. Bivins posts lots and lots and lots of videos of himself on YouTube doing those vocal covers of deathcore songs that we find so amusing here at the Mansion. And the Sarge is pissed because apparently Bivins gets a lot of pussy from doing it – or, at least, he gets to take photos of himself standing next to semi-cute scene girls making obscene gestures:
It’s not clear to me whether or not he’s actually fucking these chicks or what. If he is getting groupies without even being in a band, then, well, I guess that’s a whole new scam and maybe someday Neil Strauss will write a book about him or something.
ANYWAY, even more interesting is this video of him defending deathcore as “not scene.” Check it out:
So maybe I’m just as confused about what “scene” means as I am by the difference between slam and deathcore, but I always understood it to be synonymous with “trendy.” And deathcore is a trend. Like any trend, there are a lot of shitty bands to emerge from it, but I also think there are some really good ones – All Shall Perish, for example, are undeniably deathcore, but I think they’re fucking great. So while I’m not one of these people who wants to write deathcore off wholesale, I do still think it’s safe to say that deathcore is “scene.”
I also think it’s safe to say that Bivins is not that bright of a dude. He’s only like 21 or 22 years old, so maybe he’ll mature with age. But while we’re all waiting for that to happen, here he is covering Suicide Silence’s “Lifted.”
-AR
I don’t like this kid. At all.
yea the UK knows nothing. Black Sabbath, Carcass, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Venom, Discharge……… yea the UK knew nothing i like how he named non metal bands what a tool. he was fine until he said that dumb shit
You forgot Napalm Death
indeed i did but i wrote that rather quickly Barney Greenway would have my head. They too also rule very much and so do plenty of others this douche only knows popular bands i mean wtf don’t compare metal with non metal
Ditto. What the hell is wrong with that boy? I hope someone tears out his larynx.
Yeah, totally agree, until he started digging at the UK he was alright. And you guys totally forgot Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, etc…
the list goes on and on. i do love fireball, machine head and burn, as well as just about every Zep album but tend to like some of the more obscure or less popular ones such as Houses of The Holy, Presence and Physical Graffiti but this could never end further proving this man if he is a man is in fact quite retarded
Also Motorhead and I don’t know… maybe the entire punk genre?
Well……there ya go.
Its people like this that make metal seem completley retarded, Its a real shame that people like this exist but unfortunately there fucking everywhere these days.
I can’t watch the video but I hate him already; he shouldn’t be allowed near Suicide Silence music. If he can’t understand that deathcore is definately scene he should take a long, hard look in the mirror. Like you’ve mentioned, music trends need to die but there are certainly bands that I like who fit into the subgenre. Suicide Silence is one of them. When these genre mash-ups are done right they work well. You’ve also got to be able to just listen to the music instead of judge it by how the band look/act. Bring Me The Horizon strike me as a bunch of dickheads in reality, but they’ve made some pretty awesome tunes.
So, who wants to call me a fucker?
I was going to, but I decided to feel bad for you instead. BMTH has never made a good song, i’m sorry to say.
I’ll kick your ass, man. I’m like seven feet tall…
Just kidding, but I cannot recall a BMTH song worth listening to.
I want to puke.
/facepalm
It’s a pity someone that sucks as hard as this guy has even the slightest amount of vocal talent.
For the love of God, somebody kick his ass!
Why do people like this have to be fans of metal. I hate sharing my music with people like this. And again I ask,when in the fucking hell did the word SCENE become a fucking adjective? What the fuck does it mean to call something scene. It sounds super ridiculous and i hate it.
Man… are u saying Suicide Silence is metal?? That’s just some random noise…
facepalm x1000
What a toolbag.
I would pay money to see Ziltoid, or a white supremacist group, put this fucker in his place.
How do we know Ziltoid isn’t a member of a white supremacist group?
With the Blackchapel comments, he may just be…
It would be a black and white supremacist group. They’d all dress like Immortal.
One by one, Caucasians will stand tall!
One by one, whites are strongest of them all!
Geez…..
I would like to clarify that I am in no way a racist. If Immortal were, though, those might lyrics they’d come up with!
Please dont fucking provoke him.
And why on earth would you in any way shape or form advocate a white supremacist group?
Hope you’re payin attention AXL…Vince…
Not that bright? Maybe he’s more clued up than you think – he’s recognised there’s a huge amount of teenage morons that are easily impressed by very little and he’s exploiting it to the best of his ‘abilities’.
+1
Somebody’s got an attitude problem, or problems, yeah, plural…
who the fuck gives a shit about some dude on the internet and his opinions. If he is indeed getting groupies without being in a band, high five buddy! It still amazes me that we all know no one gets rich off metal, bands don’t sell many albums playing metal, yet fans bitch and moan about trends and other fans like everything every recorded was for their ears only. Fuck off.
to make everybody happy i’m posting something that will never be considered scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9-WwDWh9fo its a nice day here in NJ so i figured it would be appropriate
Great song man. +1
glad to hear it and even more so if you hadn’t heard of Sigh b4 get Imaginary Sonicscape it is life changing
I already said what I had to say about this idiot on YT this morning.
“Stuff You Will Hate” is an awesome blog.
stretched ears stretched to the point of elephant cock thickness make you look like a fucking idiot.
please, enough of the suicide silence
Agreed, listen to Obituary or Death.
Everything I could say here has already been said…w…t…f.
This got cut off…but yea, not a fan of suicide silence or vocal covers, but this kid is actually pretty decent. I didn’t listen to the vid of him talking, but w/e.
This fucking tard made me facepalm when he mentioned the whole UK thing. This douchecanoe needs to diaf.
I’m stealing douchecanoe. Sorry, it’s too good not to say.
Black guy making wayyy too many prejudicial remarks for my liking. I’m not saying i’m offended, it’s just that he would go apeshit if someone said the same things he’s saying about British people and gay’s, about groups that have been persecuted in the past.
Also, his ignorance of good, nay GREAT, British bands proves beyond doubt that the majority of people who listen to deathcore are “scene”.
+1 and amen
Agreed, way too many epithets, especially with what he said at the end. Hypocrite.
Nice headband. Can I put in a request for him to do a vocal part while balancing on a WiiFit board? If we could make that a Fiji water instead of just plain old, not-so-trendy bottled water I’d be happier even still.
Suicide Silence: name taken from the two things one desperately wants after hearing the 15 seconds of their double-bass clusterfuck.
Anyways, this guy’s just another pretentious scenster who’s allergic to criticism. Scene kids make me GLAD that I’m a semi-inadvertent hipster/elitist.
I have videos up to show the world what i can do and hopefully get somewhere with it, I don’t want to be like you…. sitting at home talking shit on someone else’s videos not doing anything productive
You can try and bullshit me all you want nigga -_- Until you have something up that proves you can out do me, I don’t need to back up my assertion because YOU have no proof
Ah, nice try Eluvy.
Take the blog link out next time ;D
Haha I…uh…meant to do that! Yeah, that’s it…
Oh god, another yammering idiot with ridiculously sized gauges in his ears. I could probably punt a football through those things.
aight let me just take this shit all back cuz it’s causing way too much controversy. Yea I’m scene – but so what?! I like the big fuckin gauges cuz it not only makes me look more scene but chicks dig it too. So who fucking cares? fuck you haters! I’m gonna go do some wicked inhale vocals to the new suicide silence album and upload em to youtube. Fishsticks.
Bivins out.
Please wander into traffic on the way and get hit by a large automobile that has a Cannibal Corpse bumper sticker on it.
Thanks.
i mean i love pussy and all, but i don’t think i’d even want to bang a chick who actually likes that shit.
Yeah, she might pig squeal in your ear.
Right, Led Zeppelin didn’t come from the UK or anything…
Normally I would hate people like this, but if he is doing vocal covers of bands like Suicide Silence, I don’t have a problem with him. Deathcore is crap.
Ha. Well, he’s a douche. The whole UK thing made be laugh though. Hopefully he will actually learn something about the music he supposedly knows and realise how much of a twat he really is.
This guy is a retard. In general, UK music > US music. I don’t know what he thinks he knows about music if he likes Deathcore.
Granted, a lot of scene kids listen to deathcore bands like Suicide Silence and Carnifex, but come on people.
They’re not really scene. Mayday Parade is scene. All Time Low is scene. Brokencyde and the Millionares are scene. Deathcore not so much. While it might be a “trend” in your opinion, the same has been said about all the genres of metal.
the use of the word “scene” to describe music almost makes steam come out my ears. it is about as retarded as everything being called “screamo” a few years back or “nu-metal” even more years back. let’s just call it what it is- SHIT
This is like the ONLY response I have ever read on a metal board where someone actually understand what scene is! I am impressed!! Nice work.
Oh sarge, back again to try and defend the Pointless Breakdown? A “scene” is something that is trendy. As in, that “scene” is really pumping. All the cool kids are in that “scene.” As deathcore is currently a trend, with a lot of little stereotype clonish type guys-that-look-like-girls and girls-that-might-have-a-penis floating around, all talking about how “cool” their shit is, it’s “scene.”
Huh?? I don’t like particularly like deathcore, only a handful of bands like ABACABB, Demolisher, Monsters, and Winds of Plague. Most of it is awful.
“As deathcore is currently a trend, with a lot of little stereotype clonish type guys-that-look-like-girls and girls-that-might-have-a-penis floating around, all talking about how “cool” their shit is, it’s “scene.””
Um, no shit???
Dude, you just congratulated the guy above for saying that deathcore isn’t really scene. I mean, I could have missed the sarcasm, as I read it during a break of mind-numbing report writing. If it was sarcasm, my bad, if it wasn’t, please explain your bi-polar views there.
Ah, right: I just meant that although I disagree with him, he at least knows what he’s talking about when it comes to scene (for whatever THAT is worth haha).
this is great promotion for him.
girls like the one above seriously need to have their heads caved in just like when i got stopped by some girls (since i was blasting the underrated album Sabotage by Black Sabbath) to listen to Bodies by Drowning pool i disappointed them so much by sayin yea uh not my style
Hey, don’t blame his stupidity on youth. He’s not worthy of eating my ripe, 20 year old male, shit. You’d think that natural selection would’ve gotten rid of these idiots by now…
yeh man, it’s not exactly like he going to completely change in the next 10 years, well…..not because of his age anyway.
Zilty, do you think Axl would love this guy? I mean, they can probably share tidbits about how much they love IWABO.
I don’t know. Could anyone honestly like people with those ear plug things? Even their parents must have disowned them by now. This guy just reeks of pathetic-ness on a level that I don’t think even Axl would go down to, even despite his love for IWABO.
Haha. I love the scene kids “my parents just don’t get me syndrome.” Persistence of the first step of puberty is just sooo edgey.
Meh, you’re right. I mean, I suppose Axl only likes “good” deathcore, so he’s not THAT lame.
On an interesting note, my mom’s boyfriend saw scene kids for the first time today. He spent the rest of the day questioning why you would do that to your ears, and what would possess you to wear girl pants, shirts, and accessories. It was actually pretty funny. I got to explain to him the fail of a breakdown and the bastardization of death metal/hardcore punk their “music” creates, and he laughed at how pathetic it was… Making fun of people is just such a great way to bond.
Haha, “good” deathcore. Loving the quotes there.
And your mom’s boyfriend seems to be a rational human being, as is anyone else who thinks that scene kids are retarded. That makes him win enough in my book, And I fully agree–making fun of people is an excellent way to bond. Continue the bonding by going to concerts together and knocking a few scene kids out. Truly a fun experience!
My dad saw some scene kids walk past our house and asked them if they wanted Halloween candy. This was in June or July.
Haha, he’s into the classic heavy-metal-hard-rock shit. Sabbath, Hendrix, some Iron Maiden. I invited him to go to Black Dahlia Murder with me, but then both of us got busy o.O And thanks, I do my best with quotation marks.
@Eluveite, I laughed pretty hard at that one. My grandpa once asked them if they were pre-op or post-op trannies. Sad part was that he was totally not joking, his question was serious o.O
Hilarious!!!! you never hear americans dissing brits, its always the other way round
What does the UK know about music ?
Carcass, Bolt Thrower, Napalm Death, Extreme Noise Terror, Iron Monkey, Canvas, Narcosis, Godflesh, Pitchshifter, Cathedral, Medulla Nocte, Fudge Tunnel for a start.
Um… fuck him. Fucking fuck him. I fucking hate metallers. Fuck em all.
Yep, I’m gonna go through the British metal band alphabet…
Lets throw Benediction, Anaal Nathrakh, Akercoke, Anathema, Bossk, Earthtone 9, Electric Wizard, Sikth, Paradise Lost, Mistress, Ramesses, Gorerotted, Stampin’ Ground.
What does the UK know about extreme music ?
I have no idea.
Electric Wizard.
Owns
Your
SOUL
oh, and blur.
The Beatles, Judas Priest, Venom, Iron Maiden, Carcass, Napalm Death, Bolt Thrower, Lock Up, Anaal Nathrakh, etc. etc.
I freely admit that I don’t usually care for my country’s music scene, I only like five or six bands from the UK, and am indifferent towards the others in the above list. I’m no perfect angel, but I’m not having ignorance like this being spewed against my homeland. Fuck this cunt and his homophobic and Anglophobic drivel. It’s pricks like him that make me ashamed to call myself a metal fan.
And the sooner this whole deathcore circus gets knocked on the head the better.
Consider it this way…
US = Massive continent, lots of people, unsurprisingly lots of very good bands. And lots of crap bands.
UK = Very small island. However lots of good bands. And lots of crap bands.
The percentages/numbers tend to stay the same everywhere, drawing arbitrary line sbetween UK and US music is redundant.
Plus, off the top if my head, I can think of several modern/new UK bands i’m sure this guy would like.
And yes, it saddens me that I might also like bands he likes. However he is no reflection on me personally.
if you only like deathcore, or if the only remotely metal thing you listen to is deathcore, then your scene. liking the better side of it doesnt make you scene.
and to completely counter act his “bad-british-music” claims, leading pig-squelcore band Annotations of an autopsy, a band im suree he likes(but i despise) is from england. why is everyone suprised he doesnt know of troo bands though?
if you refer to any music as “scene” you’re scene.
and he doesnt want to be called scene, hes not scene(by looks) so what? there are bigger fish to hate on
Okay, Axl, that isnt really a ’semi-cute’ girl, but who knows why men consider certain women attractive. She looks like the trash I see in my high school hallways everyday.
And second of all, whos hand is that coming from the right side of the picture? It’s white so it obviously isnt Biven’s, and the scene chick has one arm down and another holding the camera. wierd.
I would destroy any of the (18+) “semi-cute” girls at your high school then, Fabio
If you look at that picture he has two different coloured eyes…
Fuckin’ alien.
his skin is a weird color too
i LOL’d
not an alien.
a husky.
This guy needs to look in the mirror…
Seriously though, I know this guy. He goes to my college. I don’t really like deathcore, but the guy’s good at it. Plays guitar and drums, does pretty good vocals, myspace layouts, all sorts of stuff, and he’s overall a pretty chill guy.
“fuck you, fuck deathcore, fuck your ignorant androphobic rambles, and fuck your stupid comedy earlobes, you clown. “
Considering the fact that the Suicide Silence show that recently hit my hometown was attended mostly by guys wearing girl jeans and chicks with way too many colours in their hair, yeah, I’d say deathcore’s pretty scene. Dust ‘em off, nuke ‘em from orbit.
This guy’s a fucking idiot..
He needs to get off the internet.
this all the evidence one needs…evidence for life
What bands came from the United Kingdom…..Carcass, Napalm Death, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest…..I mean fuck, Metal itself technically came from the UK with Sabbath and Zeppelin paving the way. What a moron. Although to his credit, he really doesn’t do inhales.
Shit, I forgot Akercocke, who are not only from the UK, but British as fucking crumpets and tea. And they play music that’s so evil it makes Slayer look like Linkin Park.
Oh. My. Fuck. Akercoke. Total win right there.
man this kid sucks. i like deathcore and i like deathcore bands but this kid sucks. fuck him and fuck his gay ass-ramming hardcore dancing.
this guys intelligence is very low, i love me some deathcore and “scene” kids arent that bad, anyway NEW BTBAM LEAKED NEW BTBAM LEAKED NEW BTBAM LEAKED NEW BTBAM LEAKED NEW BTBAM LEAKED NEW BTBAM LEAKED
Wow… this guy really doest know much about music. And, if he doesnt want ppl to criticise him, then why the fuk post his vids on the net. He prb only know the beatles and the spice girls cos… well the whole world knows who the beatles are and he was a spice girls fan when he was dressing up as a girl with all his ‘confused’ friends.
And if you want a completely fukin AMAZING British Metal band … Ted Maul – check these guys out.
http://www.myspace.com/tedmaul666
they won kerrang readers poll for best unsigned band a few years back, theyve played Download, their singer sung with Deicide when good ol’ Glen couldnt get into the UK.
OH SNAP SON! OFF THE HOOK!
This is what happens when you claim to love something, but don’t take the time to get to know it.
You make yourself look like an idiot. Case in point, the “Don’t Call me A Scene Kid” Scene Kid says fuck the UK when the UK basically started Metal and GRINDCORE, which is one of the reasons anything CORE has a flimsy association with metal.
Napalm Death is from England. What a dumb fuck.