Comments on: JUMPING DARKNESS PARADE: EYAL ON PHYSICAL CDS

By: Julian Goodwin

Julian Goodwin — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:30:13 +0000

i honestly still buy cds i love them theres just something about haveing a hard copy of my music that is satisfying. and plus i do also love the artwork but i do also go to a show and spend at least 100 bucks if not more on other merch doesnt realy matter what show i go to its gonna happen. but like Jackal says im also 19 and i have a huge collection i think i own around 800 cds and its still growing steadily i cant find anythign else better to spen my money on other then maybe tattoos and even then there mosly band inspired.

oh and great post by the way eyal you have very interesting blogs

By: Jackal

Jackal — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:21:54 +0000

Since this is an old post I imagine no ones really gunna read this…

I buy the cds when I have the money for it, regardless of whether it’s vynil or a cd. Nothing beats putting the album on listening to it front to back and flipping through the artwork, reading the stuff inside and so on. Most important though is as has been said countless times before supporting your scene through anyway you can to help keep it alive, what’s a few bucks here and there if you can spare it to help the bands you love produce the music you love. Also, since you mentioned that it’s mainly older people who collect/buy albums. I’m 19, I do have cd books and a steadily growing collection of vynils… so, that’s another vote for you guys to keep selling cds… if worse comes to worse have people order them from you guys or in a way that doesn’t run you dry (I didn’t read all the comments, not sure if anyone said that yet)… Cheers.

By: Corey S

Corey S — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:03:56 +0000

Oh, and I’m a hell of a lot more likely to buy an album (and the Vinyl) if it has bad ass artwork. Artwork is pretty important to me.

By: Corey S

Corey S — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:01:43 +0000

I know this is a late comment on a post that’s a few months old, but I wanted to weigh in. I download a vast majority of my music… but, always buy the CD if I like it enough. The reasons simple (but, slightly stymied by the fact that you told me you guys don’t make money on CD’s anyway), I want to support bands I like. Hell, part of the reason I listen to metal is because it’s a genre largely unaffected by the idiot bands who churn out CD’s for the sake of the bottom line, so I know you guys need your fans to make it from month to month- which (and this may be ignorant) is pretty damn cool in my opinion. If I didn’t care, I’d just download all of my shit, but, because you guys work so hard to make music that I love, I figure I can put out a few extra bucks when I have them to buy a CD. Oh, and I never buy CD’s full price, though… I usually get them on sale because $17 for Gojira’s “The Way of All Flesh” is fucking crazy. But, yeah, just wanted you to know that there are still 19 year olds who really care about supporting our music.

By: Brendon

Brendon — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:57:53 +0000

Seriously i still buy CDs much for the same reason that many people still collect vinyls. It’s a novelty thing for me, im still a young teenager but i gew up in between the switch from casettes to CDs so i grew up buying those. I love getting shirts and shit it’s great because you can advertise your favourite bands 24/7. But the CD is still a good market for collectors, people like myself who love Album Artwork and Liner notes to see lyrics and extended artwork or band pictures, or to read the thank you notes, and to see what equipment a band uses. Of course all these things are available for free on the internet but it’s novelty, it’s collector and also it may not bring huge revenue to most bands but it’s still revenue. And hey if i’m buying shirts and posters, and whatever the hell else the band has to offer why complain about an extra couple dollars?

By: Gonzo

Gonzo — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:14:48 +0000

I don’t know guy who started this blog is still reading but- Eyal, I just bought your guys’ most recent CD. It really sucks. Can you send my money back? Hehehehe just kiddin buddy-I listened first and downloaded it on Rhapsody, really loved the guitar work-so I bought a copy. Now I feel it actually has more value. I’ve assigned value to it psychologically by paying for it. This is the problem with everyone downloading for free-the recorded art form of music has been drastically devalued. So no wonder you only wanna sell shirts-pretty quick the recordings will be nothing but a free, downloadable commercial for apparel and concert tickets. What a crock-the music is what matters-but oh well, no sense cryin-it’s here right? Anyway-I still buy a CD if I really like the band and think it’s something I want to own.

By: Andy

Andy — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:34:28 +0000

maybe im old school but i still buy cds, unfortunately they are going the way of the dinosaur and that really sucks. i finally cracked and bought an ipod, and as nice as it is to have my entire cd collection on a little piece of machinery it just isn’t the same. maybe once i have the time to set up utorrent or some sort of equivilant to what napster was then ill start downloading stuff. by now you’d think cds would go down in price but it is just the opposite.

my band Obvious Complete Destruction is soon to be recording an album, id certainly hope people buy our cds, but if not then im sure you’ll be able to download it in some form off the net

http://www.myspace.com/ocdtheband

By: Xn0r

Xn0r — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:09:38 +0000

Hm. No updates in a while. Hope he’s OK.

By: dimentian

dimentian — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:56:34 +0000

if i dig the band and need to see all the effort put forth. absolutley. then again i’m not nineteen anymore. and jus give it to me on the computer for 10 bucks. although the autographed cd’s are really cool and you could never get those yrs back.

By: david

david — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:27:26 +0000

Well, I definitely still buy the album because I do like to enjoy the artwork and I like to listen to it the real way first…if I buy a CD. I generally download it, and you just won a shitton of respect from me since you prefer that we get a chance to listen to the CD above buying it. Thats what music is about; getting it to peoples ears. And well, I know you guys make jack shit off of it so I buy shirts and go to the shows. But I like to have a physical copy if possible of some of the CDs that I love (Btw, the Concealers is fucking amazing, I definitely going to buy it) just because I want to give you guys the 2-5 bucks from it because I enjoyed it so much and it makes me feel good to have an actual copy. But beyond that, I have a digital library, one on my computer and I have it backed up on two diff harddrives. Ya, I don’t want to lose that shit, I have tons and tons and tons of songs. but, incase both fail; I still have physical copies.

By: Xn0r

Xn0r — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:17:28 +0000

I buy CDs sometimes, DL music sometimes, and DL new bands to check them out, and sometimes buy their CD if I get into ‘em.

First thing I do when I get the CD is rip it using EAC and encode it as FLAC and/or mp3 for reasons of portability. I simply can’t tolerate having to lug physical media around anymore. So the music I’m currently listening to on my phone, laptop, whatever, gets copied to the playback devices, or played via a file share from the server. I don’t upload or spread what I rip/encode though.

I’m not worried about losing my digital library ’cause all my music is on RAID arrays which would require a simultaneous multiple-drive failure to lose the data. A lot of people also use USB drives and such to back up their library.

By: Jack

Jack — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:05:21 +0000

I still buy CDs. I like the physicality of it. I don’t really trust downloads, but I think thats just because all the computers Ive had are shit, & files go missing & corrupt at the drop of a hat. I wouldnt want to pay for a download (or even not pay) when theres no guarantee it’ll still be there in a week or two. If I have the music on a CD, I can always say ‘thats where that album is’, & if I havent moved it, its still there.

I always buy the CD of an album I like, so I can play it in my car or when Im not on the computer, but to be honest, a lot of my actual listening comes from streaming services like spotify & youtube.

By: MikeO)))

MikeO))) — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:37:58 +0000

How about the independent music artistes who DO depend on CD sales (not only merch) to make a living? Eyal’s only stating the fact that his band under Roadrunner doesn’t really earn from CD sales. There are other bands who earn from royalties from their own labels, be it a distribution or licensing deal and not signing away your music to a record company. I still buy CDs/Vinyl as a way of showing that I do support the hardworking artiste, and I find that it’s better to own a physical item than mp3s which can very well disappear if your motherboard burns or your comp has a fatal error and needs to be re-formatted. No backups? Too bad.

Speaking about downloading, I play in a band, and I see MP3 companies selling MY music illegally, with no royalties coming back to my band. If you download it for free, fine, doesn’t really bother me. But if you are making a profit with my music, then that’s just plain wrong. Sometimes it’s better to buy the actual product from the band itself if you really like their music.

By: PD

PD — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:41:18 +0000

I didn’t feel like reading 234563 comments, so maybe someone’s said this already. You should just put out pre-order packages that have sweet shit that you’re not gonna get anywhere else and bump the price a bit. Make an exclusive run of 250 or 500 shirts (possibly individually number them…increased costs there) and bump the price up just a bit. Or maybe different artwork, a poster, DAATH branded something random (lighters?), whatever…just as long as it’s something different and limited that people want.

Prime example: I’m into sneakers, and it works like this with Nike Skateboarding/Jordans – they usually release one style ONCE, and once that run is gone, it’s GONE. People will dump $500 or more on some shoes.

Get some sick art that’s totally different from your usual art, pack it in with a pre-order, keep it limited, and there you have it. I’m sure the real fans wouldn’t care if you guys charged an extra $10 bucks if they know they’re one of the few people getting their hands on it.

I’m sure that could have been explained better, but I think I got my point across?

By: Ceiltsei

Ceiltsei — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:01:17 +0000

Double comment? Yeah, this is why computers suck.

By: Ceiltsei

Ceiltsei — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:00:35 +0000

This whole physical vs download media thing is all over the place to me. I still collect them, going on about 1000 CDs now. This may sound incredibly contradictory (to LP), but the mp3 scene is a scattered wreck of horrible quality and little collector value. Let me explain myself in literal diarrhea form – all mp3 players except very few have horrible sound quality, song download quality is always questionable, with CD I can choose my portable format and quality, I have collector value, If I get over your band I can sell it to the right people and get good cash back, I sometimes get liner notes and bonuses such as songs and DVDs with physical purchases, I can identify your album with an actual picture and I get to listen to it without fucking around on a computer all day looking up lyrics and shit. I take care of my collection and I have some great pieces, and I know this is a completely selfish fascination and hobby. Hopefully the record labels will change CD sales or allow you to take care of that portion yourself in the near future. A CD you sell at your show should cost you maybe two bucks, a CD a store buys from a major label right now only costs them a few bucks anyways. To print your own CD it only costs about a dollar per disc if you buy it in packs.

I don’t know how to break this to you, but I will be continuing to buy DAATH CDs and I rarely make it to shows.

By: Ceiltsei

Ceiltsei — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:00:06 +0000

I don’t know how to break this to you, but I will be continuing to buy DAATH

By: WookieBastage

WookieBastage — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:16:40 +0000

I’ll be honest, I download a majority of my music. It depends on the band whether or not I will buy the CD. There are some bands that I would like to collect a discography. Others, I just don’t care; I just want to listen.

By: Slaughterhouse

Slaughterhouse — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:07:07 +0000

Its all about CD’s…the sound quality is amazing and having the physical medium is great! I know it doesn’t support the bands that much but it does a little! I like having something tangible to hold on to and look at! I’m a dying breed I guess…

By: anselmowitz

anselmowitz — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:32:04 +0000

Deadset fuck cds. That time is gone. Im getting lazier when it comes to blog downloads also, nowadays I just goto the myspace & if its decent then its probably a download.

Still waiting for the future of music, where one be all end all mobile phone-style device is built into a chip in your head that has the intarweb beam bands albums, myspace style page & even their twitter like musings directly into your skull with info displayed inside the lid of your eyes, with the music played directly into your ears & the direct biochemical result of said music is beamed back to the band with out filtering out the truth. If you want your friend next to you to hear it also, you just open your mouth wide & it plays like a fuckin stereo. Bands wouldnt have to even play instruments, they just think the music, which auto posts on the mother page, with dudes being able to instantly hear & respond to it. People wear one shirt which is full digital & can display any image band related or otherwise.

Everyone could fuck anyone like in Demolition man & it would be awesome. Man the future is awesome.