Comments on: THE HARD R: DALLAS ON THE EVOLUTION OF DEATHCORE, AND WHY IT’S SWEET AS HELL http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/ IS FOR LOVERS Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: James Knopp http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-821599 James Knopp Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:09:00 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-821599 Wise words. I feel like metal is pushing each other way.. when in fact this is the last thing that we need to be doing in order to survive. This is one of the most intricate facts about metal...its sensitivity. We all love the music, and we all share the same trait: when someone is discordant of it, we stand up for it. Regardless of what people below might say about how "lazy" we are for saying "fuck genres, music is music", you really have to ask yourself if arguments are really what music needs to begin with. Avoiding the simple fact that music is going to evolve regardless of what you say is something that simply cannot be done. If you really want to save your music, than you need to support its entirety. There's nothing wrong with having an open opinion, but battling each other time and time again about the same repetitive subject is getting us nowhere. All music is repetitive in some way. The most common chord progression is the three-chord I - IV - V progression, which ALL styles of music have exercised heavily. Who cares if it has breakdowns, blast beats, hardcore screaming, guttural growling, pig squealing, singing, major progressions, minor progressions, syncopated rhythms, "synchronized t-banging" or whatever it's called, happy riffs, dark riffs, tremolo picking, thrash patterns, etc. It's all metal and it's all unique in some way, shape, or form. If one band's sound or stage show doesn't appeal to you, then just move on to the next. I'm sure if that band has enough talent, they'll do just fine without your listen. People go to metal to be inadvertently rebellious and to stray away from the mainstream, so why not give them some comfort when they get there instead of intense criticism of what sub-genre they're listening to or why they're listening to it? Just be happy that they're listening to it, period! They're helping to keep your music alive! Wise words. I feel like metal is pushing each other way.. when in fact this is the last thing that we need to be doing in order to survive. This is one of the most intricate facts about metal…its sensitivity. We all love the music, and we all share the same trait: when someone is discordant of it, we stand up for it. Regardless of what people below might say about how “lazy” we are for saying “fuck genres, music is music”, you really have to ask yourself if arguments are really what music needs to begin with. Avoiding the simple fact that music is going to evolve regardless of what you say is something that simply cannot be done. If you really want to save your music, than you need to support its entirety. There’s nothing wrong with having an open opinion, but battling each other time and time again about the same repetitive subject is getting us nowhere. All music is repetitive in some way. The most common chord progression is the three-chord I – IV – V progression, which ALL styles of music have exercised heavily. Who cares if it has breakdowns, blast beats, hardcore screaming, guttural growling, pig squealing, singing, major progressions, minor progressions, syncopated rhythms, “synchronized t-banging” or whatever it’s called, happy riffs, dark riffs, tremolo picking, thrash patterns, etc. It’s all metal and it’s all unique in some way, shape, or form. If one band’s sound or stage show doesn’t appeal to you, then just move on to the next. I’m sure if that band has enough talent, they’ll do just fine without your listen. People go to metal to be inadvertently rebellious and to stray away from the mainstream, so why not give them some comfort when they get there instead of intense criticism of what sub-genre they’re listening to or why they’re listening to it? Just be happy that they’re listening to it, period! They’re helping to keep your music alive!

]]> By: Chaz http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-455246 Chaz Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:34:53 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-455246 As much as I love Dallas and God Forbid, I simply cannot agree with Dallas. Deathcore may be the worst thing to happen to music im a long time. Grunge and Nu Metal werent nearly as bad as all these shitty, lame ass Deathcore bands. I would gladly welcome back Glam Metal or Nu Metal than have this stupid fad go on any longer. Dead chords and breakdowns are very lame and the kids that listen to them are even lamer. As much as I love Dallas and God Forbid, I simply cannot agree with Dallas. Deathcore may be the worst thing to happen to music im a long time. Grunge and Nu Metal werent nearly as bad as all these shitty, lame ass Deathcore bands. I would gladly welcome back Glam Metal or Nu Metal than have this stupid fad go on any longer. Dead chords and breakdowns are very lame and the kids that listen to them are even lamer.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-385797 Marcus Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:57:37 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-385797 Deathcore is the opposite of evolution. I did it, I put them into a sentence together, and it makes sense. Deathcore is the opposite of evolution. I did it, I put them into a sentence together, and it makes sense.

]]> By: rodles http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-375534 rodles Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:17:33 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-375534 oh and i like bring me the horizon too i dont understand why people dont like them besides theyre last album wasnt quite up too par oh and i like bring me the horizon too i dont understand why people dont like them besides theyre last album wasnt quite up too par

]]> By: rodles http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-375532 rodles Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:15:01 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-375532 i think the architects are way better than suicide silence and kindaof have the same sound theyre guitars go perfectly with theyre bass and oh sleeper is sick too i knoow im late but some of the best bands ive heard in a while i think the architects are way better than suicide silence and kindaof have the same sound theyre guitars go perfectly with theyre bass and oh sleeper is sick too i knoow im late but some of the best bands ive heard in a while

]]> By: Reaper-X http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-341430 Reaper-X Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:17:52 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-341430 I would have considered it...if Technical Death Metal didn't exist. I would have considered it…if Technical Death Metal didn’t exist.

]]> By: JAS09 http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-340950 JAS09 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:00:08 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-340950 Instead of writing off an entire genre, I prefer to evalute the bands based on their individual talents. All Shall Perish are awesome. Whitechapel is pretty cool. Suicide Silence is average. And Waking the Cadaver is mind-bendingly horrible. Instead of writing off an entire genre, I prefer to evalute the bands based on their individual talents. All Shall Perish are awesome. Whitechapel is pretty cool. Suicide Silence is average. And Waking the Cadaver is mind-bendingly horrible.

]]> By: Reaper-X http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-337025 Reaper-X Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:38:47 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-337025 If it's an overused practice, fuck it. That goes for anything. I'm not ashamed to say the overuse of Blastbeats is stupid either. If it’s an overused practice, fuck it.

That goes for anything. I’m not ashamed to say the overuse of Blastbeats is stupid either.

]]> By: SolaceInNothing http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-336374 SolaceInNothing Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:07:53 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-336374 So by that logic, in the past decade there have been plenty of death metal and black metal bands which have come and gone that suck and all surely used blast beats, so i guess fuck blast beats? So by that logic, in the past decade there have been plenty of death metal and black metal bands which have come and gone that suck and all surely used blast beats, so i guess fuck blast beats?

]]> By: Reaper-X http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-335791 Reaper-X Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:16:33 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-335791 It's more like frosting. The better its made, and the right amount makes a cake taste delicious. However, if it's some horribly made, half-assed, clumpy frosting, and it actually makes up 9/10ths of the cake? It's no longer a cake anymore. It's an abomination that makes you never want cake, or anything with frosting anymore. Every time I see someone who loves breakdowns so much, I think of a morbidly obese kid clapping for joy at the sight of the previously mentioned 90% frosting cake . So fuck breakdowns. It’s more like frosting. The better its made, and the right amount makes a cake taste delicious.

However, if it’s some horribly made, half-assed, clumpy frosting, and it actually makes up 9/10ths of the cake?

It’s no longer a cake anymore. It’s an abomination that makes you never want cake, or anything with frosting anymore.

Every time I see someone who loves breakdowns so much, I think of a morbidly obese kid clapping for joy at the sight of the previously mentioned 90% frosting cake .

So fuck breakdowns.

]]> By: Snacrifice http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333684 Snacrifice Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:32:20 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333684 Breakdowns in metal is like sausage on pizza; it makes something so good taste even better. Chew on it, savour it, don't be so quick to hate just because of it's "title". Douche Nozzles! Breakdowns in metal is like sausage on pizza; it makes something so good taste even better. Chew on it, savour it, don’t be so quick to hate just because of it’s “title”. Douche Nozzles!

]]> By: SolaceInNothing http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333530 SolaceInNothing Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:40:20 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333530 You know if it wasn't for Metalsucks I would probably A.) Never even heard Oceano, or B.) Would have totally dismissed them, because even I was begining to suffer from belief that if a new band could be pinned as "deathcore" then they must not be very interesting. Thank you Metal Sucks, it is because of you that I was able to shake my preconceptions and listen to a band that I previously wrote off. I can prouldy call myself an Oceano fan now. You know if it wasn’t for Metalsucks I would probably A.) Never even heard Oceano, or B.) Would have totally dismissed them, because even I was begining to suffer from belief that if a new band could be pinned as “deathcore” then they must not be very interesting.

Thank you Metal Sucks, it is because of you that I was able to shake my preconceptions and listen to a band that I previously wrote off. I can prouldy call myself an Oceano fan now.

]]> By: Gossamer Axe http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333362 Gossamer Axe Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:49:30 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333362 sarcasm is br00tal! Love the funny columns. sarcasm is br00tal!

Love the funny columns.

]]> By: SolaceInNothing http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333327 SolaceInNothing Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:25:59 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333327 lol exactly! lol exactly!

]]> By: Biff Tannen http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333229 Biff Tannen Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:17:02 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333229 Demonic- + 1,000. PERFECTLY stated. Demonic- + 1,000. PERFECTLY stated.

]]> By: Biff Tannen http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333228 Biff Tannen Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:15:25 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333228 Gutteral broootal death metal is fucking garbage. Listen to REAL death metal,folks. Not gore shit, DEATH metal. Try Ignivomous from Australia.... their album "Death Transmutation" is amazing, as is their demo "Path of Attrition" Gutteral broootal death metal is fucking garbage. Listen to REAL death metal,folks. Not gore shit, DEATH metal. Try Ignivomous from Australia…. their album “Death Transmutation” is amazing, as is their demo “Path of Attrition”

]]> By: NoCowNoFood http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333181 NoCowNoFood Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:40:24 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333181 So The Yankees Won .. No freaking way.. I think this topic is Boring, every one its own So The Yankees Won .. No freaking way.. I think this topic is Boring, every one its own

]]> By: Trux http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333083 Trux Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:23 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333083 Totally agree with you sir...... Now i am leaving here and i will turn off the lights on my way out !!... Totally agree with you sir…… Now i am leaving here and i will turn off the lights on my way out !!…

]]> By: SonOF http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333079 SonOF Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:38:59 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333079 ASP has some merit, BOO don't really fit into this genre in my opinion (they have some potential though), Suicide Silence are pretty basic, but they are some young dudes (again, potential)...Oceano I will completely disregard; amazingly generic, ripoff stuff... I think the better bands that have elements of deathcore rise above this little genre niche - take the Red Chord for example...they do what the bands mentioned do, they do it much better AND they do much, much more...The Faceless as well... I'm listening to TRC's "Fed Through the Teeth Machine" at the moment, and it is just MILES beyond this stuff, while still containing the good elements... ASP has some merit, BOO don’t really fit into this genre in my opinion (they have some potential though), Suicide Silence are pretty basic, but they are some young dudes (again, potential)…Oceano I will completely disregard; amazingly generic, ripoff stuff…

I think the better bands that have elements of deathcore rise above this little genre niche – take the Red Chord for example…they do what the bands mentioned do, they do it much better AND they do much, much more…The Faceless as well…

I’m listening to TRC’s “Fed Through the Teeth Machine” at the moment, and it is just MILES beyond this stuff, while still containing the good elements…

]]> By: Slaughterhouse http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/10/23/the-hard-r-dallas-on-the-evolution-of-deathcore-and-why-its-sweet-as-hell/#comment-333034 Slaughterhouse Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:48:46 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=23072#comment-333034 The Price of Existence is fucking sick. The difference between TPOE and ATD is that the ATD is more guitar driven it seems...Production is a little bit cleaner... The Price of Existence is fucking sick. The difference between TPOE and ATD is that the ATD is more guitar driven it seems…Production is a little bit cleaner…

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