“2ND COMING OV PANTERA”
Thursday, October 29th, 2009 at 1:30pm by Axl Rosenberg
Reader James Keglor sent us the following e-mail about the band The Sign of the Southern Cross:
“in case yall aint heard ov this band then check em out. Especially check out the tune Purge, its really fuckin badass but the rest are kinda like Tera filler songs. The dude sounds EXACTLY like Anselmo its insane like i wouldnt be surprised if Phil was actually the singer in secret.”
Although it’s clear that the singer wishes he were Phil Anselmo, I don’t think this band is anywhere near as good as Pantera. I also don’t think James should continue to spell “of” with a “v” more than once in any given e-mail, but that’s a personal decision that James has to make on his own.
Also… a confederate flag, fellas? Really?
If you feel so inclined, check out The Sign of the Southern Cross here, then share your opinions with James in the comments section below.
-AR
To be fair, if they are just a pantera rip off (I don’t know because I don’t care to listen) then it would make sense that they’d put confederate flags on stuff.
programmed drums in a southern metal band.
nah.
And there is also Plantera http://www.myspace.com/plantera1
Someone should put together a Pantera tribute festival – there are probably enough tribute bands for such a thing. heh
A bad Pantera ripoff. Programmed drums also… not good.
I swear that song Purge sounds familiar…
also if they would quit trying to copy everything Pantera does and get a real drummer they might have something there.
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Only Behemoth can get away with writing “ov”, and even then it’s a close call.
Wow, that was really awful…..
The dude on vocals reminded me more of Brand New Sin (same with the instrumentation on the first song). The Purge song sounds reminiscent of the guitar solo tone of Dimebag in the slower songs, but not too much on the vocals IMO.
yea. band reminded me more of brand new sin than pantera for sure.
I’ve heard the record and didn’t mind it. Thought it was more Down than Pantera though.
They want to be Pantera, but they’re no where near the same level. The vocalist’s impression of Phil Anselmo is pretty dead on, if a little hilarious. At least they’re not shy about who they’re imitating.
near the same New Level?
Of confidence… and power?
These guys can’t be the second coming ov Pantera. They’re just Regular People.
LAME
Just another pantera rip off band. I’ve heard a million just like em. If you can’t bring anything original to the table, then just admit what you really are and be a full out pantera cover band.
I will give the singer props though. he’s not bad
Why the fuck would anyone want to sound like Pantera? Retarded, dumbed down thrash riffs that appeal to the easily impressed masses…..(oh, Im sorry…”Groove” riffs)… low brow jock tough guy lyrics…macho posturing. fan base full of Nascar enthusiasts and 15 year olds in baggy pants that like to jump up and down at concerts and smash busch light cans on their foreheads, all the while threatening to kill anyone who doesn’t like Pantera. To top it off, the band were the biggest trend hopping posers in the history of ‘heavy’ music.
Pantera SUCKS. Diamond Darrell SUCKED. Vinny Paul REALLY SUCKS. Rex SUCKS. Phil Anselmo is the ONLY one in the band whom I think might have a SHRED of real metal passion in him, and some credibility…. at least he admitted that he was only doing Pantera for the money and pussy. He actually likes REAL metal.
If you’re not an alt for Ziltoid, I’m extremely surprised. He has made the exact same argument against Pantera many times in the past.
Well put Biff Tannen – informative and mature. I’m sure your parents enjoy these objective Pantera-views when they serve your virginass dinner between your World of Warcraft- and chatroom-sessions.
Keep up the good writing Mr. Real Metal
FUCKIN BURN
Were you actually born when Pantera broke big?
All music is good, it’s just up to you if like it or not.
No not all music is good. Relativism is for pussies.
To answer my adoring fans:
No, I am not Ziltoid, just another person with better taste than the majority of this sites readers. Is it really that hard for you to believe that people don’t like Pantera, and see them for what they really were : Meathead trendies making millions off of ignorant white trash.
I am 27, so yes, I was born when Pantera ‘broke big’.
No, I am not a virgin, nor have I ever played world of warcraft.
yes, they were trendhoppers. I actually think “Power Metal” was a decent record. But the two before that were HORRIBLE hair metal..complete with lipstick. Then, Panter heard Exhorder and stole their sound COMPLETELY when they realized it would be the new thing. Then, when black metal became big, they released the Trendkill album, which happend to have some black metalish moments in it…and was by far their most abrasive recording. Anselmo has OPENLY acknowledged that Pantera did this, and stated he was only in it for the money, as was the rest of the band. There is not a SINGLE point in their career when they were not jumping into a trend, only to abandon it immediatly when a new trend emerged.
Biff, I won’t debate whether a subset of Pantera’s fanbase is the redneck meathead crowd. Go to ANY metal concert and it’s pretty evident there is a substantial portion of metal fans in general who fit that description. But Pantera crowds by and large looked just like other metal crowds. Mostly male, mostly white, with a lot of BS macho crap.
As for the trendhopping claim, every time a band has stayed in one place they’ve been criticized for re-recording the same album and every time a band tries to stay “modern” they are accused of selling out or trendhopping. It’s pretty clear that you don’t like Pantera, but to paint them and their fans with your Pantera-hating spectacles is pretty small-minded.
We get it, you don’t like them. Now go back to snuggling with Ziltoid.
“As for the trendhopping claim, every time a band has stayed in one place they’ve been criticized for re-recording the same album and every time a band tries to stay “modern” they are accused of selling out or trendhopping.”
I certainly don’t think bands should stagnate, they should evolve as their career moves on. However, there is a BIG difference between evolving and simply TREND hopping, which is EXACTLY what Pantera did.
“Biff, I won’t debate whether a subset of Pantera’s fanbase is the redneck meathead crowd. Go to ANY metal concert and it’s pretty evident there is a substantial portion of metal fans in general who fit that description”
Its more than a subset….it is the vast majority of their fans that fit this description. Also, I go to plenty of concerts, and the only time I’ve ever seen redneck meatheads was at a Morbid Angel gig I went to , who happend to be opening for Pantera. These meatheads had no clue what him them when Morbid Angel went on….the music went straight over their heads. But, When Pantera came on, they all ‘jumpedthefuckup” and began their cacophony of ” O’Doyle Rules !!!”
“No, I am not Ziltoid, just another person with better taste than the majority of this sites readers.”
It’s funny, you just seem to be regurgitating the same crap he does. You both hate Pantera, you both are of the opinion that your taste in music is without doubt superior to the rest of us… you two should really exchange contact information, as you may have been separated at birth.
“Is it really that hard for you to believe that people don’t like Pantera, and see them for what they really were : Meathead trendies making millions off of ignorant white trash.”
It’s not hard to believe, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t make some good music. As someone who grew up around his fair share of ignorant white trash, I know that the most visible portion of their fans are the ignorant white trash… but that it doesn’t necessarily apply to everyone.
Anyway, my point is that you seem to have your head lodged in your ass. Figuratively speaking, of course.
I’m 33, college educated I hate NASCAR, rednecks, Busch beer, the confederecy and macho bullshit. But somehow I still FUCKING LOVE PANTERA!!! Even I think “Power Metal” was awful. Your taste in music is an opinion. A weak one at that. Here’s an idea, why don’t you take a step back and literally fuck your own face.
“Here’s an idea, why don’t you take a step back and literally fuck your own face.”
: ) That was a good one ! Consider its stolen. I can’t wait to say that to someone at work today.
Let’s see:
NASCAR fan? Nope (baseball, football, b-ball, the usual)
Busch Lite drinker? Nope (Tanquery, Bombay Sapphire or Hendrix on the rocks, squeeze of lime)
Threaten to kill non-Pantera fan? Nope (I have a a modicum of intelligence.)
Trend-hoppers? Yeah, if you define a trend-hopper as someone who has influenced countless bands/musicians in their history. Yes, they traded the glammy stuff of Power Metal for the thrashiness of Cowboys from Hell, but it was in their early incarnation, and if you actually do go back and listen to Power Metal, it shows plenty of glimpses of what they would become.
Aww shit I knew I’d find your dumb fucking comment here. If someone mentions Pantera in passing , do you pull a Jeckyl and Hyde? All normal and douchy then all of a sudden Pantera Tourettes kicks in. ‘UH FUCK P P P P PPANTERA I H H H H HATE TH TH TH TH TH THOSE F F F F FUCKERS UH ARGH! RECYCLED EX EX EX EXHORDER, UH I LOVE K K K K KANYE S S S S S SO WHAT!’
Were you even alive during the reign of Pantera? I’m not the hugest fan but your accusations are ridiculous. Dimebag was a very talented guitarist, he wrote some killer riffs. The solo and breakdown at the end of Domination kick so much ass it’s ridiculous, of course you probably don’t think so because the breakdown consists of one chugging note, which I guess in your book is automatically “dumbed down” because you’re incapable of seeing the tastefulness in simplicity. And to say that Vinny Paul isn’t a talented drummer…you’ve clearly never held a single drumstick in your hand.
“Dimebag was a very talented guitarist, he wrote some killer riffs”
He had a couple of good riffs, namely “Cowboys from Hell” (the song itself). Domination ??? He fucking STOLE that song. That is the exact same fucking riff/bridge/’breakdown’ and rythem the whole was through as Iron Maiden’s “Sea of Madness” off the Somewhere in Time album.
I love plenty of simplistic music….plenty. However, his breakdowns were dumbed down to the point of retardation…he did this to ensure his music would be easily accesable to the masses.
Dude, its not even worth arguing about Vinny Paul…. the dude SUCKED. Fucking HORRIBLE drummer, when you take into account the popularity of his band, how long he’s been playing and how ‘extremem’ their fans think the music is. He is BARELY one step above Lars Ulrich…barely.
Domination sounds absolutely nothing like Sea of Madness. I can see how maybe the main riff is dubiously similar. That’s all.
Singer is good but he sounds exactly like Phil…thats probably why he does sounds good!
Thanks for that lifeless guitar solo at the top of “Purge.” Snore.
“He actually likes REAL metal.”
that was probably one of the most idiotic things I have seen in a long while. What the hell in your mind is real metal? Its like when my friends say I wish they played some real hip hop here. What it usually means is I don’t like there style therefore they aren’t a real part of that music.
How long have you been listening to metal ? After a certain amount of time, you can easily differentiate between trendy toothless crap, like Pantera and REAL metal. Im not saying its wrong to just be getting into metal (hey, you’ve gotta start somewhere !), but you will develop an ear for it. I do not know a single person that owns a Sodom LP, Venom LP and a Pantera LP. That should explain it.
Anybody who uses the phrase “real metal”, er—I mean “REAL metal” immediately loses all credibility. Why? Because it cannot be defined and anyone who tries to define it always – ALWAYS – ends up defining it by his own OPINION.
I do. Any enjoy each of them. What now?
Uh yeah me too. I’ve listened to Venom since I was 6yrs old!
BWAHAHAHA. Dude. I have Agent Orange on vinyl, as well as Black Metal, and Cowboys From Hell. I know you don’t know me but plenty of people like all the bands that you “deem worthy” of being “real metal” and also like Pantera. Just face it, YOU don’t like Pantera. That doesn’t mean they’re not real metal. And I’m not some massive Pantera fan getting defensive. I don’t think they’re all that great, and I haven’t listened to too much Pantera since I was 16, but I still throw them on every now and then and that shit is metal, whether The Great Biff Tannen approves or not.
Nope, sorry. Its horrible watered down garbage…. you haven’t listened to much of it since you were 16 ? EXACTLY. Its fucking kids shit. “entry level’ metal, if you will.
How did these dopes get signed to Season of Mist? They seriously dropped the ball here. Who wants to listen to a sludge band with NO DRUMMER? Honestly, the Philip Anselmo shit is egregious but that just makes everything else worse.
Sound like 90% of the crap i hear from the local acts in Louisiana.
“Also… a confederate flag, fellas? Really?”
fuck you
go back to fucking chickens you inbred retard
Meh… However, the guy really does sound like Phil…
But they have more a Down thing than Pantera to be fair.
When I saw “The Sign of the Southern Cross” I immediately thought of Dio with Sabbath. Fuck, man, Mob Rules is a killer record.
Also, “It’s like breathing oil in your lungs while climbing the great smokey mountains of Appalachia searching for moonshine,” is a terrible sentence. Where the fuck ELSE would you breathe? Your pancreas? Your knee?
They even name drop Pantera twice in their little bio blurb.
Shit Sandwich!!
You can’t print that! Where did they print that?
Thats’ nit picking, in’it ?
I thought they were pretty decent judging by the songs on myspace. That guy does a dead on Anselmo for sure. I also heard alot of twisted around pantera riffs in the songs which is kinda lame but still listenable.
I for one would like to hear some of the music made by people that post on here. Then see what happens with the judging.
I bet $10 that guitarist plays a Razorback…
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=28914281&albumID=1938466&imageID=36678551
$10 plz
This is fucking terrible.
The singer could replace Scott Stapp.
Whenever I go down south, and wind up driving through some backwoods place, it always makes me laugh how many confederate flags I see. I don’t really understand the whole “yeah, southern pride!” thing. Up north we don’t run around like “fuck yeah, the union!” The civil war has looooooooooooong been over, what’s the point? We’re all American.
These dudes are absolutely badass. They may be heavily influenced by Pantera but so what? It’s still cool. Seth Uldricks is a hell of a vocalist. They did have a drummer at one point but I don’t know what happened to him….I gave this album an 8/10… Some of the drum sounds/production was a lil sub par n’ there could’ve been some better solos but other than that, pretty fuckin’ awesome in my opinion.
weak.
Southern Cross kicks some fucking ass