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AIN’T NO LAWSUITS GONNA STOP THE DINO CAZARES BABY-EATING PARADE!

 Monday, November 9th, 2009 at 10:00am by

It’s been a while since we’ve reported on the current Fear Factory drama because, well, it got boring re-hashing the same old shit over and over again just to get you guys all hot and bothered in the comments (whoops, did I just say that?). To summarize, in case you didn’t read this site missed out over the summer: Dino re-friends Burton Bell and the two start working on new music under the “Fear Factory” name, while Christian and Raymond — currently working on their Arkaea project — rightly object because Fear Factory is supposedly a four-way partnership. Lawsuits and public shit-talking ensue.

Last I checked a resolution between the two warring Fear Factions hadn’t been reached. So either the four men have settled, or Dino and Burton — let’s just call them the baby-eating Fear Faction — just don’t give a fuck. The baby-eating Fear Faction, along with latter-day FF cohorts Byron Stroud [Strapping Young Lad] and Gene Hoglan [Strapping Young Lad, Dethklok, every fucking band ever] — just announced that they have a new album called Mechanized coming out on February 9th via Candlelight Records (!?!).

The new song “Powershifter” has been making the Internet rounds all weekend; stream it below. Unsurprisingly, it sounds a lot like Fear Factory. I imagine some of you will love it and some of you will hate it; place me firmly in the “meh” camp. I loves me some Demanufcature and Obsolete, but 10 years later there are tons of metal bands out there that are way better, more interesting, and more worthy of my listening time.

-VN

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  • http://lordsofmetal.nl/index.php?lang=en Cavorka

    Ugh…Endless chuggery! Oh wait, it’s Fear Factory, go figure.

  • West Virginia

    its like divine heresy mixed up with digimortal.

  • fasshole

    Im kind of in the meh, boat. I really, really hate clean vocals unless they are really, really good. And the rest sounds like Dino re-enacting that scene from Predator (you know the one i’m talking about). But why They are so keen on playing under the name Fear-Factory bemuses me, Dino has been comfortable releasing FF re-hashes through his other projects ever since they broke up (Namely Divine Heresy). Where’s the issue buddy, Raymond and Christian had the right idea with Arkaea.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/M60Patton Patton

    I actually like it. It sounds exactly like something Dino Bell would make, but that’s not a bad thing. And Hoglan was indeed in every band that ever existed, I mean he drummed on Beatles’ Revolver didn’t he ?

  • Fufkin

    1. Every song sounds like the same formulaic soulless dirge – usually about the inevitability of machines dominating the world. US metal really must have been thirsty for Futurecore in the nineties.
    2. Ego Cazares and Burton ‘I was tired of metal last week’ Bell sound like morally questionable people.
    3. Playing variations of the same machine gun riff doesn’t make Dino metal’s answer to Clapton on the Beano album. He seems to think it does.
    4. Burton can’t sing the clean parts in tune live.
    5. What’s not to like?
    6. Who am I to judge?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ziv-Frenkel/722358828 Ziv Frenkel

    Bell looks like an infant next to these guys.

  • Awful Georges

    Great fuckin song.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Hulsey/653830783 David Hulsey

    Boring music that wasn’t boring 15 years ago. It is literally the same song over and over again with these guys. I was reading Raymond’s statements on Blabbermouth yesterday. He definitely sounds like he is of the more trustworthy camp in this dispute. But it really doesn’t matter because, like I said, this band is sounds like the same song on repeat and they have for some time.

    • http://www.last.fm/user/groverXIII groverXIII

      This. It wasn’t necessarily boring 15 years ago, but since they’ve spent their time rehashing their decent stuff (with a side trip into nu metal) they’ve gotten a little bit stale.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Shaw-Thomas/522440411 Matthew Shaw-Thomas

        Aye! However my friend had the best theory, that they started out as Justin Broadrick whores and emulated a lot of ND’s Scum on Soul Of A New Machine and then switched over to Godflesh’s Pure for the extra industrial touch! Personally I really like Soul and Demanufacture to this day but the following albums were weak Nu-metal cash ins, Archetype had a glimmer of hope in places but ultimately fell flat on its face. This new song sounds like something between Demanufacture and Obsolete, it’s alright, better than some but nothing special. I shall now resume listening to Portishead…

  • Jimmy

    So boring.

  • gnarlk

    i could swear i heard auto tune in there at points….

  • http://Www.hibernum.net Hibernum

    Well I think late 90s nostalgia will be in full swing in a year or two, so maybe this is brilliant? It sounds like a leftover from Demanufacture or Obsolete. I hate to say it but I am kinda past this stuff too. But maybe I am just jaded that the first single wasn’t about iPhones.

  • metalanus

    Dino is a god.
    No other man could resell the same album three times.
    “eh, just change the name, fire a member, and sell that shit.”
    It’s like fucking bottled water.

    ..or Divine Heresy. with shit clean vox.

  • http://www.myspace.com/7stringslaughter CJLsky

    I really dig the song…I’m just sick of all the drama.

  • http://www.myspace.com/uglydirge aaron m.

    more like “powershitter” as it sounds like sounds my ass make whilst gently slapping against the toilet seat during an exceedingly wet shit.

    • metalanus

      welp. win.

  • brian roach

    per above poster, the drama will turn me off to this no matter the quality. whatever went down between the 4 original dudes, they had a ‘Fear Factory, Inc.’ and it’s Business 101 that if you have 4 members of a corporation, 2 of them can’t just randomly decide to do something that the other two haven’t agreed to? Whatever, but Ray and Christian are definitely winning the PR battle here, and I hope they take Dino and Burt to the cleaners in a settlement!

  • noobpotato

    Good song by strapping young factory

    • DaylightReckoning

      Hey, that’s what I’ve been calling them too!! Well, that, and I’ll also throw out “Fear Fraction!”

  • Kill All

    Musicianship – A+
    Songwriting – D-
    Vocals – Epic Fail
    Production Value – A-
    Overall – not very impressed

    • http://facebook.com/scrillaz teaches_of_peaches

      you forgot an F – for fucking awful lyrics.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Acerra/508945856 Michael Acerra

      there are two musicians in fear factory. both of them were in SYL. Shouldn’t they get a 50 for musicianship?

  • Josh

    I actually really like it. It sounds better then that piece of shit Transgression album so far. I don’t like a lot of FF and Divine Heresy songs so this sounds really good to me. I only dig Soul Of A New Machine and Demanufacture and a couple on Obslete. Yeah Dino writes the same things a lot but so do half the extreme metal bands out there. I don’t know I’m just sayin I dig it.

  • jason

    I am in the “Fear Factory always sucked it” camp.

    • http://lordsofmetal.nl/index.php?lang=en Cavorka

      Me 2

  • SHOCKTROOP

    I like fear factory. always have. but this is meh for me as well. nothing special or new. they’ve been rehashing the same sound and the same old bullshit for a while now. It’s gonna take more than that to get me interested again. other than that, I’d rather just listen to demanufacture again.

  • Ziltoid

    Shit band making shit music with an aweosme drummer. Hoglan is literally the only redeeming factor in this song. I actually like some of little nuanced hits he puts in there. Herrara would never have done that. Still, excluding drumming, this is just as bad as any other shitty Fear Factory song.

    • Anthony

      The drums in this song had “I’m going to try to play like Herrera as much as possible” written all over it. Hoglan did nothing different that Herrera did with his start-stop double bass and continuing snare hits throughout the entire song. Not to say the drumming in this song was bad, but if no one told me that Hoglan played on this song I would instantly assume that Raymond Herrera was on the song.

      • Ziltoid

        It’s obviously FF styled drumming, but some of the cymbal and hi hat hits were nicely placed. Herrera simply never did anything remotely interesting like that.

        • Jason

          I couldn’t disagree more. Totally bland drumming and a poor representation of Hoglan’s ability. Also, it sure as hell did not live up to the bashing that Dino gave Raymond in the media. Gene adds nothing fresh or n ew, at least in this song. Not saying that is his fault, but it is true.

  • kelfro

    With Hoglan and Cazares in the band, I would like to know how the catering at their shows works out.

    • Joshie

      It’s sort of like that part in Jurassic Park where they just crane a cow into their holding cells.

  • Metrognome

    I have a solution to this multiple-Fear Factory thing.

    Burton/Dino/Byron/Gene = Fear Factory
    Christian/Raymond/whomever = Near Factory

    Simple, no?

  • Ender^Wiggin

    Great song, half of SYL + half of FF? Sign me up!

    It sounds very Digimortal.

  • MickFNS

    I really like Fear Factory. Soul, De/ReManufacture & Obsolete were truly epic, beautiful creations and certainly seemed to inspire a host of imitators. But by the time they came out with “Digimortal” I figured the general fascination was over – by which I mean, where else could they go but a move towards radio? When they ultimately returned with “Archetype” and “Transgression” I thought, well not bad. “Slave Labor” and “540,000 (Degrees) Fahrenheit” were classic sounding enough – unless they start going the way of, say, David Bowie or U2, and they’re only going to risk disappointing everyone. If they put out “more of the same,” at least they can please FF fans who enjoy that style. It certainly works for AC/DC and Motorhead. If this doesn’t work – and barring any experimentation into acid-jazz remixes or something featuring Sean Paul – the next move will be for them to play “Demanufacture” and/or “Obsolete” in their entirety. Which’ll probably happen anyway. And you know people will fucking show up for that. So I’m psyched for the new “FF” in spite of the nonsense; but possibly because I have lowered my expectations and I don’t expect them to be forging new ground. Kind of like when I go to McDonald’s and order a big Mac…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rik-Powell/286400508 Rik Powell

    This song’s okay but it’s not as good as their old stuff. Musically it sounds like a Divine Heresy B-side, and the vocal melodies are pretty boring. Meh.

  • http://www.smnnews.com big_metal_al

    I dig it! Regardless of Dino’s baby eating, he’s still way better than Christian who blew at guitar.

    • Qbass

      so you must play really good then? how many cds have you released on a major label? I cant believe how may people can talk shit on here that dont have a foot to stand on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-D-Weiss/289600601 Eric D. Weiss

    I actually really dig this. Of course it’s not the same Fear Factory that was pummeling in the early 2000′s, but major props go out to Dino and Burton for trudging through adversity and attempting to put out a quality piece of music. Sure it doesn’t stack up to Demanufacture, Obsolete, Digimortal, and Soul of a New Machine — but I would put it up against Arcehtype and Transgression. This just comes to show that band can remain current almost 18 years (Soul was originally released in 1992) after their debut, despite member changes, and still sound good. And plus, let’s not forget that it’s 50% Fear Factory and 50% Strapping Young Lad…how fucking awesome is that!? At least they’re not putting out 30 second songs filled with pig squeals…

    • Panzer D

      +1

      Seriously, for as much as FF have done for heavy music in general, they sure get a lot of grief from little internet haters who couldn’t hold a candle to what they do in real life. I’m hearing Cyberwaste all of a sudden…

      I love the new song. Is it Demanufacture? No. Even if it was, the haters would only bitch that it’s the same thing over again. Since it’s not, the haters bitch that it’s not the same. Damn people just love to bitch about shit. Should probably change the name of this site to Pigeonhole, inc. Honestly, metal in general has bored the fucking shit out of me for the last few years(with only a few rare exceptions), and this is one of the first things I’ve heard that wasn’t just screaming over blast beats, so I’m all about it.

  • Moyles

    I cant help but love anything hoglan does.. hes just to awesome. Dino is one of the most unoriginal guitar players today though.. “Strapping young factory” i like that name ^^^

  • Awful Georges

    AGAIN, this is a great fuckin song.

  • AZ

    Refreshing to hear a good Fear Factory song after so long!

  • Nickfromhell

    I’ve always liked this band. Sure, their attempts at nu-metal (Digimortal) and “experimentation” (Transgression) weren’t that great but the majority of their output has been solid industrial metal. They are one of those bands that just play fun, catchy and heavy music. I can turn off my brain and enjoy it for the fast-food that it is and then put on bands like B.T.B.A.M when I’m in the mood for something deeper and more technical.

  • http://reaper-x.deviantart.com/ Reaper-X

    I never really cared much for Fear Factory. They had one song I kind of liked…but It really ended up being swept away by bands who came out with a similar sounding song, but better.

    Obsolete is right.

    At least Dino isn’t in Brujeria anymore.

  • Noel

    suuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkksssssssssss straight up ass. im a big fan of obsolete and archtype, but this is like rehashing some rehash… i mean, christ, you cant take any ol` chugg at place some double bass under it for 4 minutes and call it anything new. metalsucks is right, there is better metal out there. these had a chance to evolve after obsolete, which in some ways was their peak, but they shose to go the rap metal way instead. im imagining a machine gun fast industrial tinged , imagry filled technical album that could of beed digimortal but nooo……now, we have this…well, guess il go listen to gojira…

    • Noel

      btw, burton looks like a screamo kid..wtf?

  • You Don’t Know Me

    First reaction was “FUCK YES! THIS IS AMAZING!” Then it went to “meh” status about a verse and a half in. Definitely interested to hear more from the album though.

  • Awful Georges

    What is great about all you whiny pussies is that while you’re talking trash about Fear Factory, you’re still talking about the band. Great publicity.

    AND on this note.

    Great fuckin’ song.

  • cink

    It’s alright, not as good as their classic stuff. The endless chugging get’s a bit tiresome even though I love FF and SYL. Imo the 2 greatest bands of the late 90′s-early 2000.

  • stu1

    Wonder how much Candlelight paid for this

    • http://www.metalsucks.net/category/scraping-genius-off-the-wheel/ Gary Suarez

      That’s an excellent question: HOW MANY HAMBURGERS?

      • http://reaper-x.deviantart.com/ Reaper-X

        10 more than Roadrunner.

  • earthsherm

    fear factory are legends and no one should forget it, too bad its not the whole line up

  • SonOF

    I like it; guess I’m a fanboy dork.

  • poop

    Fat factory

    • Josh

      Did you come up with that all by yourself? Aw, how cute! Nobody has ever said that before. How creative!

  • http://jas09.deviantart.com/ jas09

    Man, Gene Hoglan sounds bored there.