ZAKK WYLDE IS A MENSCH, BUT ALSO A HYPOCRITE
Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 2:30pm by Axl RosenbergHere’s Zakk Wylde talking to Tartarean Desire a few years back… I’ve added some emphasis:
“What would be a good career move is to get Eminem to sing on a Black Label album. It would stir up some controversy with the Hell’s Angels of Iron if you had Eminem rapping on a Black Label album. I go first off I hate fucking rap music, so what the fuck would I want to have that mother fucker singing on my fucking album… Because he is popular?”
And here’s Zakk ranting about rap and rap metal back in 2006:
Of course, ideals are nothing in the face of a paycheck. And so here we are, it’s almost 2010, and Zakk Wylde has recorded a guest guitar solo on Public Enemy’s “Bring the Noise 20XX” for DJ Hero, a video game for people who think that Guitar Hero is too sophisticated.
Let me start with this assertion: I actually have no beef with old (good) hip-hop, or the basic concept of rap metal. Yes, bands like P.O.D. are fucking terrible, but Rage Against the Machine (and, to a lesser extent, Faith No More and probably some other groups I’m forgetting) have proven that the idea of mixing elements of metal and rap music does not have to be inherently awful.
But Zakk took a very public stance, and now he’s going against that stance, and so I feel an obligation to make fun of him.
I’m sure Zakk is justifying this decision by telling himself either that a) Anthrax once did the same song with Public Enemy so it’s all good or b) he lost his primary source of income this year and his kids aren’t gonna feed themselves and that’s that. But then he should make a statement saying “I got heating bills to pay” (which he’ll never do).
‘Cause anything else is just bullshit.
-AR
Zakk’s also worked with Dope after being anti-nu-metal so being hypocritical is nothing new.
Zakk’s rap name should be Zakk E. Paychek. But seriously, if you’re going to do a collab with a hip hop act, you could do a lot worse than Public Enemy. Any rap group that name drops Anthrax and uses old Slayer samples obviously gets it. Plus, Chucks rhymes are ILL, son!
(sung to the tune of “genesis” by justice)
ZAKK E. PAYCHEK STEPPIN TO DA MIC
HERE TO ROCK YA MAMAS ALL NIGHT
BITCHES TO THE LEFT, SUCKAS TO THE RIGHT
I ROCK IT HARDER THAN FIFTY STREET FIGHTS
SPEAKING OF HARD, THEY’Z MY SHREDDING SKILLZ
PUBLIC ENEMY’S PAYIN THE BILLZ
CUZ I DO WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THA MOTHAFUCKIN CHEDDA
I ROLL UP ON BITCHEZ AND THEY PUSSYS GET WETTA
*throw money at the camera*
I dunno. I hate my job but i still show up and put in a shift for the paycheck. Am I too a hypocrite?
No theres a difference.
I shit talk my job all the time. I mean, I really fucking hate it.
He’s just saying there’s no difference because he doesn’t fucking work
Completely different, unless you’re in a public position and spoke out against your job, then continued to do it. And seeing as working at Midas isn’t really a public position, I think you’re ok.
please. Zakk’s primary source of income is his endorsement deals and BLS merch. the dude donates millions to charity . he don’t need the money. who gives a fuck if he threw a solo down on a video game? he doesn’t have to like rap to do that.
AMEN! lol
Millions?… you sure?
yes. millions. it is documented fact.
here is one story alone that shows it:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=66732
I’d say “millions” is probably a bit of a stretch. But, just for shits and giggles, Limp Bizkit dudes are ALL millionaires (probably all far more so than Zach), they don’t this reunion for something more than loot?? Didn’t think so.
Guitar Hero is “too sophisticated” or “soooooo sophisticated”?
Candiria have some rap in their metal and still manage to be good, the rapping is by far the worst part though.
I agree, but I’d add that the vocalist for Candiria is also a better rapper than 99% of mainstream hip hop artists.
Theres actually a lot of good hip hop out there still, you’ll just never hear it on any commercial station. For starters pretty much everything on Rhymesayers.
Hell Yes @ Rhymesayers.
I saw POS with the rest of Doomtree recently and they killed it. Good hip hop is so much fun to see live.
Almost as much as good metal that is. Like that the current Mastodon show. I went to Chicago while they were recording a DVD and everything was on point. Maybe they stayed sober for the cameras. Or at least more sober than usual.
Fuck yeah. Rhymesayers, that Doomtree crew, Sage Francis, a lot of the Baby Grande shit. I just heard (finally) the new La Coka Nostra and it’s pretty awesome.
P.O.S. would certainly be my favorite of themas well, oddly enough he even has a punk/metal style to his music not to mention name dropping DEP in a song.
THANK YOU! I’m a metalhead at heart, but I always get pissed off by the derogatory attitudes of most metalheads towards hip-hop. I once asked a kid what he hip-hop was, and he replied Akon and 50 Cent. I told him he had no right to judge it until he’d listened to MF DOOM/Madvillain, the Wu-tang Clan (especially dudes like Inspectah Deck), Brother Ali, Hieroglyphics, Sean Price, KRS-one, Tonedeff or any of the real artists out there. I mean, to even find good metal you either have to dig a little or listen to Mastodon only, unless you just listen to ’80’s stuff.
By the way, POS started playing punk and he’s even got a punk-like side project “Building Better Bombs”
http://www.myspace.com/buildingbetterbombs
Suggest you check it out.
Don’t know why but I’ve just never been able to get into BBB though.
hakk mylde….
ft. dj jazzy jeff
eagerly awaiting the inevitable rap-off between zakk wylde & ozzy.
I’m glad I never liked this tool to begin with.
On some VH1 metal special, I’m like 90% sure it was Zakk Wylde that referred to Limp Bizkit as the future of metal.
No it was Vinnie Paul….which is actually more infuriating
Typical.
I couldn’t believe it when I first heard about this.
sheesh
I never thought I’d see the day Zakk fall so far from Stronger than Death and even 1919…
a shadow of what he once was :/
disregarding an entire genre of music based on a few bad apples shows how smart you are to begin with
I´m sick of this Metalsucks SHIT. Zakk Wylde can do WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS because he is a legend and a great musician and you are a fucking peace of shit, a tabloid junkie motherfucker saying ¨Zakk Wylde blah blah blah, Zakk Wylde blah blah blah¨ Just go out and get a life fucking fat piece of SHIIIIT!
You’re that passionate about Zakk Wylde and someone else needs to get a life?
Zakk tells it like it is and gets me fired up, ya bunch of pansies
That’s phenomenal. I may use that as my epitaph.
Zakk can say whatever he wants, but i’d still much rather listen to Rearranged or Nobody Like you than Suicide Messiah or In This River.
Also, Eminem’s last couple of albums might have sucked, but he has more talent in his respective field than Zakk does in his field. Playing guitar and writing lyrics are too separate areas, but Eminem’s word play, lyrics, flow, and basically everything involved with The Eminem show and before totally Own anything he’s done with Black Label Society.
Oh for sure.
“I actually have no beef with old (good) hip-hop….”
Really? Did you just make the old = good assertion? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since you guys love Slayer so much. That was rude and a joke.
For real though, old = good is garbage. What you personally enjoy = good. I don’t know who you personally enjoy, but I gotta say that Run-DMC is really boring. Important and influential, absolutely, but YAWN. OLD AND BORING. Give me Whodini or Mantronix or Bambaataa. Now THAT’s old and good.
P.S. Making variations on Zakk Wylde’s brilliant declaration, “LIMP BIZKIT SUCKS COCK,” is a new game at my house. Meat wasn’t cooked to your satisfaction?: THIS BRISKET SUCKS COCK. Can’t find what you need at the grocery store?: WINN-DIXIE SUCKS COCK. You get the idea. You love it.
I think he was saying “good hiphop is old” as opposed to “old hiphop is good.”
Eh, I disagree either way.
almost any artist will do it for the money even the shitty indie cred metal bands! They say they wont but when your family needs to eat, you will eat crow and shit to feed them!
I think the point is missed in this quote. Zakk is notoriously sarcastic and I think mostly this is meant to be a joke. As far as putting a track down on DJ Hero… It doesn’t seem very metal, but then again either does your constant ranting about Dave Grohl… Just suck his penis already and get on with life.
This was actually made for Guitar Hero 5 but has probably made its way into DJ Hero because they’re developed by the same people.
It’s also a really boring version of the song.
The sentence “I fucking hate rap” is not an ideal or a principle, it’s a statement of his subjective preferences. He’s selling his skills for money. You can sell your guitar solo for a paycheck and still hate rap all you want. There is no contradiction in some higher sense of “ideals” and (gasp) “public stance”! That’s silly. It’s just business.
Say I hate reggae, for example. If some reggae band wanted to pay me for playing a guitar solo on their track and I needed the money, hell yeah I would do it. Does that mean I suddenly don’t hate reggae, or that I’m some kind of hypocrite and I’ve betrayed my “metal ideals”? Fuck no. I’m just selling my labor for profit.