Comments on: RIME OF THE ANCIENT HARPER http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/ IS FOR LOVERS Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Costa200 http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-391295 Costa200 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:39:28 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-391295 Holy crap! this was epic... Holy crap! this was epic…

]]> By: Russell http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-351015 Russell Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:42:47 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-351015 here's a great video that shows the classical influence on metal heads. Great reply rachel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOF9w8kG-c Amazing.... here’s a great video that shows the classical influence on metal heads. Great reply rachel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOF9w8kG-c

Amazing….

]]> By: Russell http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-351010 Russell Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:39:57 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-351010 Agreed, but it also show how influential classical music is to metal. The harp is so difficult to play and to play a melodic metal song from Iron Maiden is freakin sweet. There is also a cool acoustic cover of a black dahlia murder tune here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7gp8syqCBo&feature=related Agreed, but it also show how influential classical music is to metal. The harp is so difficult to play and to play a melodic metal song from Iron Maiden is freakin sweet. There is also a cool acoustic cover of a black dahlia murder tune here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7gp8syqCBo&feature=related

]]> By: Metal Fuckin' Dave http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-350818 Metal Fuckin' Dave Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:44:20 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-350818 YES! Creepy motherfucker. He can play the shit out of a harp though. YES! Creepy motherfucker. He can play the shit out of a harp though.

]]> By: Lybrium http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-350470 Lybrium Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:16:25 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-350470 Totally awesome, thanx for posting this! Totally awesome, thanx for posting this!

]]> By: metalchick666 http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-350376 metalchick666 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:40:29 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-350376 the piano is very similar to the harp; in the harp, however, the strings are plucked, and not struck by hammers. the piano is very similar to the harp; in the harp, however, the strings are plucked, and not struck by hammers.

]]> By: Rage http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349972 Rage Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:50:25 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349972 cool story bro cool story bro

]]> By: rachel http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349970 rachel Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:42:06 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349970 Well, metal requires alot of technical skill, as if it were a Bach Sonata or any other difficult work of classical music. Not just any noob can be good at metal. I especially find the connection in stuff like Opeth, Ensiferium, Alestorm, Dimmu Borgir, Ect. In fact, if you need to see a huge metal/classical correlation example, look up Progenies of the Great Apocalypse by Dimmu Borgir, featuring the Prague Symphony Orchestra. The form of good metal is often based off of lots of difficult concepts, involving recapitulating the melody, and using chordal progression modes, commonly with phases that take up 4 or 8 bars. This is excluding our math metal of groups like Meshuggah, but you get the basic idea. Metal is most commonly in a minor key in European metal, because it is based on folk roots. The cousin of the minor scale, the blues scale, is found in a lot of the American heavy metal (God forbid I mention this band on this site, but Avenged Sevenfold comes to mind as ones who use lots of blues scales.) We also have the punk influence in American metal, so I would say that European metal had this closer correlation. Groups like Nile use harmonic minor scales, which is seen just as often in classical composers, such as Georges Bizet. One last thing that makes metal very similar is that it is one of the frontiers of the progression of all music. One hundred years ago, Maurice Ravel was writing piano pieces that got him booed off of stages, and his music was considered completely blasphemous. Fast forward 70 years or so and you've got groups like Maiden, and then listen to groups out now like Napalm Death. Metal is where our music is moving, and it keeps the "heavy of the heavy" alive, just like Bach did back in 1700. Does this all make any more sense? I explain this theory to alot of people all the time. Well, metal requires alot of technical skill, as if it were a Bach Sonata or any other difficult work of classical music. Not just any noob can be good at metal. I especially find the connection in stuff like Opeth, Ensiferium, Alestorm, Dimmu Borgir, Ect. In fact, if you need to see a huge metal/classical correlation example, look up Progenies of the Great Apocalypse by Dimmu Borgir, featuring the Prague Symphony Orchestra. The form of good metal is often based off of lots of difficult concepts, involving recapitulating the melody, and using chordal progression modes, commonly with phases that take up 4 or 8 bars. This is excluding our math metal of groups like Meshuggah, but you get the basic idea.
Metal is most commonly in a minor key in European metal, because it is based on folk roots. The cousin of the minor scale, the blues scale, is found in a lot of the American heavy metal (God forbid I mention this band on this site, but Avenged Sevenfold comes to mind as ones who use lots of blues scales.) We also have the punk influence in American metal, so I would say that European metal had this closer correlation. Groups like Nile use harmonic minor scales, which is seen just as often in classical composers, such as Georges Bizet.
One last thing that makes metal very similar is that it is one of the frontiers of the progression of all music. One hundred years ago, Maurice Ravel was writing piano pieces that got him booed off of stages, and his music was considered completely blasphemous. Fast forward 70 years or so and you’ve got groups like Maiden, and then listen to groups out now like Napalm Death. Metal is where our music is moving, and it keeps the “heavy of the heavy” alive, just like Bach did back in 1700.
Does this all make any more sense? I explain this theory to alot of people all the time.

]]> By: LuciferSam http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349696 LuciferSam Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:32:05 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349696 doesnt this dude look like Michael Berryman from the original hills have eyes? doesnt this dude look like Michael Berryman from the original hills have eyes?

]]> By: Pat http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349532 Pat Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:49:42 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349532 How? I see this claim made often here - please elaborate. How? I see this claim made often here – please elaborate.

]]> By: Sara Petrocelli http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349408 Sara Petrocelli Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:23:16 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349408 This guy is a GOD! This guy is a GOD!

]]> By: anttichrist http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349338 anttichrist Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:47:51 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349338 Agreed. Metal really had a huge influence on classical music. Agreed. Metal really had a huge influence on classical music.

]]> By: rupert http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349305 rupert Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:47:04 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349305 that is sweet, but it sounds more like a piano than a harp that is sweet, but it sounds more like a piano than a harp

]]> By: Sirhan Sirhan http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349159 Sirhan Sirhan Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:37:16 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349159 Its true. The vast majority of people have no understanding of the influence that classical music has in metal. Its true. The vast majority of people have no understanding of the influence that classical music has in metal.

]]> By: tyler09 http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349108 tyler09 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:40:36 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349108 this is completely mind-blowing. You have to find this guy and interview him this is completely mind-blowing. You have to find this guy and interview him

]]> By: AMP http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-349043 AMP Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:18:07 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-349043 I completely agree. A lot of people don't realize the influences of classical on metal. I completely agree. A lot of people don’t realize the influences of classical on metal.

]]> By: Anthony P Stine http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-348964 Anthony P Stine Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:01:18 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-348964 I'm of the mind that clips like this are good because they illustrate the complexity of metal and the links it has to classical music, something which is lost on most people. I’m of the mind that clips like this are good because they illustrate the complexity of metal and the links it has to classical music, something which is lost on most people.

]]> By: SourDeez http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-348929 SourDeez Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:26:35 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-348929 Sick. Sick.

]]> By: Jason Crispen http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-348876 Jason Crispen Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:33:13 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-348876 now THAT is badass now THAT is badass

]]> By: Zoker http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/11/13/rime-of-the-ancient-harper/#comment-348861 Zoker Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:18:42 +0000 http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=24276#comment-348861 I've seen this a long time ago.. thank you for letting me watch it again! I’ve seen this a long time ago.. thank you for letting me watch it again!

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