VARG VIKERNES FEELS GUILTY ABOUT ENJOYING SEX WITH MEN

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009 at 4:00pm by

photo19They call that beard a “cum catcher.”

So Varg Vikernes was released from prison earlier in ’09 after serving a sixteen year stint for murdering his band mate, Øystein Aarseth, AKA “Euronymous.” If episodes of Oz, and just about every other television show, movie, or book ever made about life in prison, are to be believed, than we can safely assume that during that time he had sex with men. Whether he was a top or a bottom is not relevant, despite what some redneck asswipes would have you believe; engaging in sexual activities with a member of your own sex is, by its very definition, homosexual.

I think Varg really enjoyed doin’ the deed with dudes – I mean, look how happy he is in that picture! – but I guess his religious guilt (because, let’s be real, he can protest Christianity all he wants, but all anti-homosexual sentiment is based in organized religion) must be getting the best of him, because he’s just released the following statement about the new Burzum album, subtlely titled Den Hvite Guden, which means – wait for it – The White God:

“As you might already know, my dear ladies and gentlemen, and others individuals too, I am no friend of the modern so-called black metal culture. It is a tasteless, low-brow parody of Norwegian so-called black metal anno 1991-1992, and if it was up to me, it would meet its dishonourable end as soon as possible. However, rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The ‘black metallers’ will probably continue to ‘get loaded,’ ‘get high,’ and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth. Some of the ‘black metallers,’ their fans and accomplices will probably even continue to pretend — and actually believe — they have something in common with Burzum, but let me assure you; they don’t! I play what can be described as some sort of metal music, all right, and they do too, but the similarities ends there. Freud wrote books. Tolkien wrote books. The similarities ends there.”

I hope that the release of The White God is followed by a U.S. tour so that us Jews here at MetalSucks can introduce Varg to some of our black and homosexual (and black homosexual!) friends, but I suspect that Varg will just stay in Norway, so as to ensure that he never ever develops any perspective on the lives and cultures of people different from himself, and therefore can continue to make boring music that sounds like it was recorded in the shitter, because it probably was.

Varg, if you hate homosexuals so much, do us all a favor and beat yourself to death.

In conclusion, here’s a photo I found of Varg in prison:

varginjail

-AR

[via Blabbermouth]

  • gnarlk

    burzum was always garbage and thanks to hipster scum and bullshit “extreme” types, he’s been given far too much of a free/sympathetic ride. if only he was ignored to begin with, we’d all be spared both his extreme stupidity and godawful music….

    • 20 eyes

      this site is run and read by hipster scum

      • http://www.crustcake.com/ The WZA’d

        20 eyes doesn’t know the meaning of the word hipster, or any sort of social connotation it has.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dru-Morrison/1641060092 Dru Morrison

          Are you the WZA’d from Decibel as well?
          Anyways, come on guys filosofem was a great album. But, like everyone, there’s a man and his music. Two separate things, in my opinion. Good, if not great, music, by a souless, pathetic, peice of shit, nazi garbage, fascist fuck who thinks people are actually listening to his bullshit, outside of the press. Good music though.

          • http://www.crustcake.com/ The WZA’d

            if you mean the decibel forum, yeah, I post on there a good bit. I write for Crustcake though.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-Kurkjian/1238131077 Rob Kurkjian

            I agree look at Mustaine hes a dick with great music

            however Varg Sucks as Does his shitty music

        • 20 eyes

          The Wzad does not know me.

    • SourDeez

      Burzum is some of the best black metal every recorded, but Vikernes is still a piece of shit. Sometimes total cocksuckers make great music, it happens.

      • Shinaain

        This.

        • Chris

          all of that “true” black metal is terrible music for terrible people

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dru-Morrison/1641060092 Dru Morrison

            Quorthon will come back from the dead and eat your face.

    • gnarlk

      i should probably retract my last statement as i had sex in prison with the man who wrote this and asked him to call me Varg.
      I also had sex with Owen Fitzgerald aka Noddy who is a fucking retard and rides french men

    • MM

      Hipster scum didn’t even exist when he started making music you idiot.

  • cougar party

    I’m pretty sure this guy is related to David Duke.

  • Elpants

    I’m pretty sure prison rape is an American thing.

    Anyway, Varg is a moron.

    • orbital

      lol, i was thinking the same thing. But then again, some European dudes look a hell of a lot more appealing than some NA women!!

      • Double D

        ew.

    • Trux

      I think you have a very good point with ” the prison rape is an American thing “

  • cnormuseock

    fuck burzum anyway
    stupidity mixed with publicity stunts gone horribly wrong
    look how exxxtreme we are
    we make shitty music and…kill people
    now buy our albums if you hate your life like we do!

    • Seth

      you are the most ignorant man.. varg vikernes is a prophet.. his ideals are that of a god.. the reasons he killed? you have no idea about.. those extremities? burning churches that represented treason to HIS culture.. they killed and scrutinized and embarassed the pagaen culture for many years.. burning, killing, raping all what means most them.. what if a satanist came to your door and killed your family, enslaved the whole town, pissed on your cemeteries? youd kill and attempt to do all you can to embarass theyr culture, as they did to you.. he burnt churches for the sake of a religous battle going on long before your “gods” were written about.. one thing the general populous is unaware of is that almost all general religions have holidays mimicking the holidays of the pagaen..dont degrade him for you will only degrade yourself a tenfold.. what he represents, is the aerial god thats needed for power.. for this world to continue.. you.. are waste..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zach-Dolan/100000151486558 Zach Dolan

    Varg Vikernes is really Dee Snider, it all makes sense now.

  • http://www.roxwel.com Pick-Axe Bobby

    Bleh. I hope he gets beaten to death by Juggalos.

    • Double D

      Bleh. I hope he gets eaten to death by juggalos.

  • http://www.roxwel.com Pick-Axe Bobby
    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kasper-Maigaard/1027001938 Kasper Maigaard

      Nnnnnnoooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

    • MetalAC13

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA That’s great.

      • Caspar Colderson

        somebody make a joke about how it should’ve said ‘cumming’ instead of ‘coming’. anybody?

    • DaylightReckoning

      Oh my . . .

    • http://reaper-x.deviantart.com/ Reaper-X

      LOL IRONY.

    • fightingmike

      Wow, if that is really the cover that is just fucking great!

  • wolfgoose

    Wow I didn’t know he was such a dick. I’ve always thought black metallers were elitist to begin with but this guy is like the elitist elite. Oh yeah…and a racist.

  • Assface

    From what ol’ VV says, it sounds like I need to find some stereotypical Negros to hang with, pronto.

    • syclonus

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    • Alkahest

      EAT DAT WATERMELON. SHO IS GOOD.

      This is some jive ass bullshit, yo.

  • Juke

    “I think Varg really enjoyed doin’ the deed with dudes – I mean, look how happy he is in that picture! – but I guess his religious guilt (because, let’s be real, he can protest Christianity all he wants, but all anti-homosexual sentiment is based in organized religion)…”

    While I dont think much about Varg one way or the other, I think Axl is the one with the issues here…

    PS: most anti-homosexual sentiment comes from nature. On the other hand most politically correct sentiment comes from weak minded people who have never taken the time to think about why they believe the way they do, so instead just lash out at others who think differently.

    • http://seasofdreck.wordpress.com aaron m.

      “most anti-homosexual sentiment comes from nature.”

      what do you mean by this?

      • Juke

        Homosexuality is a part of every civilization we know of but rarely promoted simply as a survival instinct. That’s not to claim we should be killing gays like Muslims do or anything, just making the point….a point that many here cant seem to even think about much less discuss (see kamie & msv81 below)….which only proves my point about political correctness.

        In short, you dont have to be religious to have a problem with homosexuality.

        • Alex_P

          NICE! You use anti-Muslim bigotry to make your anti-gay bigotry seem alright. This is too fucking easy.

          You don’t have to be religious to have a problem with homosexuality. You’re right. You just have to be a douchenozzle.

          I’d tell you to go fuck yourself, but I know you wouldn’t, because that would be gay.

          • IAmTheClitCommander

            All religions either directly or indirectly promote hatred towards homosexuals. Muslims have just been very, how does one put it, direct about it. It’s not bigoted to point that out.

        • http://seasofdreck.wordpress.com aaron m.

          you make the point that sex exists as a survival instinct, and while on the surface you make an excellent point. however, consider the fact that humans have been having recreational sex for thousands of years. and like it or not, some people are simply more attracted to people of their own sex. now, i don’t state that survival instinct is not a part of sex, but if that instinct was all that was driving people to have sex, homosexuality wouldn’t exist in any way.

        • Gossamer Axe

          In short, you dont have to be religious to have a problem with homosexuality.

          You should have reworded that as “male homosexuality”. Men have no trouble with two women going at each other, but two guys butt plugging each other seems to make men run away screaming.

          It’s ironic that female homosexuals don’t bother women. But the other way seems to be a cardinal sin for you men. Go figure.

    • jaime

      In what context does anti-homosexual sentiment come from nature? do you realize that a significant portion of the animal kingdom, when left with no other mate, will perform mating behaviors with members of the same sex?

      I don’t know you at all and if you meant otherwise my bad, but your comment sounds like you are trying to intellectualize and legitimize homophobia.

      • MetalAC13

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      • Some Random Dude

        Yeah I seen a male mandrill rape another male mandrill that just raped a female mandrill at the zoo. I seen it man, I seen it.

    • msv81

      “most anti-homosexual sentiment comes from nature”

      What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I saw my straight, racist cat beat the shit out of a gay alley cat who was fucking this other gay alley cat.

      You’re an absolute moron.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Martin/1110646612 Michael Martin

      Yea, I agree…way to play the better man role Axl

    • JJBeback

      There have been homosexuals since the dawn of man, it frequently in nature across numerous species. Most anti homosexual sentiment does come from religion. Your statement about political correctness is complete nonsense.

      • Juke

        I agree with you first sentence, the second is opinion.

        …and half of the replies to my original post prove the statement about PC to be true.

        • jaime

          or, you have just been empowered by the current sentiment in this country that allows racists and homophobes to embrace their irrational, ill informed hatred of groups of people.

          I agree that PC culture is bullshit, but there is no reason to be “anti” a group of people. Take 5 minutes to get to know someone personally and they’ll give you a better reason to hate them then which gender they like to fuck.

          I think everyone is still waiting for you to defend your anti-homosexual sentiment comes from nature.

          • Juke

            “or, you have just been empowered by the current sentiment in this country that allows racists and homophobes to embrace their irrational, ill informed hatred of groups of people”

            Whats irrational & ill informed about homosexuals not being able to reproduce?

            “I agree that PC culture is bullshit,”

            Then stop spouting its bullshit…you dont have to agree with me but for goodness sakes, knock of the “if you arent PC you’re a devil” nonsense.

            “but there is no reason to be “anti” a group of people”

            …unless they dont agree with popular culture embracing homosexuality right?

            “Take 5 minutes to get to know someone personally and they’ll give you a better reason to hate them then which gender they like to fuck.”

            ..and then we’ll all swim in rivers of chocolate, children will laugh & play with gumdrop smiles…

            “I think everyone is still waiting for you to defend your anti-homosexual sentiment comes from nature.”

            I dont need to “defend” but I’ve already explained what I meant. Something you cant seem to discuss other than the typical “you’re a homophobe, racist, heretic, unbeliever, etc…”

            Spare me the token anti-PC nonsense

          • jaime

            So the basis for it being immoral is that they can’t reproduce? so anyone who has sex without the strict purpose of producing offspring is wrong?

            I’m not at all spouting PC culture, I think it focuses on what makes us different and is ideologically flawed.

            “…unless they dont agree with popular culture embracing homosexuality right?”
            nope, but the ignorant should be informed.

            “I dont need to “defend” but I’ve already explained what I meant. Something you cant seem to discuss other than the typical “you’re a homophobe, racist, heretic, unbeliever, etc…”

            how did you explain this? by saying that it’s wrong because they can’t reproduce? So is all sex immoral without the sole purpose of producing offspring? So fucking a chick who had a hysterectomy is wrong? I’m just looking for a little consistency in your viewpoint. If it isn’t founded in religion, what in nature makes homosexuality wrong?

        • JJBeback

          My point is the homosexuality comes from nature, not anti homosexual sentiment; Im glad that you agree. Bnd you have absolutely no idea how much, or how little, people being politically correct have thought about these issues and why they feel the way they do about them. And you pretending that you do is simply a not true.

          • Juke

            I know that someone who cant come up with a reason to support or not support something hasnt thought about it….and “You’re a homophobe, heretic, Jew, racist, Christian, booger head, etc…” is not an argument.

          • jaime

            So to you, racism and homophobia are ok, but only if you “really thought about it” and “came up with a reason”?

            Don’t be annoyed you get pegged a homophobe when you say homophobic things, btw.

          • Juke

            This is to Jamie (the “reply” button isnt under your last post for some reason)

            “So the basis for it being immoral is that they can’t reproduce? so anyone who has sex without the strict purpose of producing offspring is wrong?”

            I was stating the fact that you dont have to be religious to be against homosexuality….a statement the twit who made the post stated.

            “I’m not at all spouting PC culture, I think it focuses on what makes us different and is ideologically flawed.”

            Bullshit! I simply made the statement that you dont have to follow any religion to think homosexuality isn’t healthy for a culture & you’re spouting off enough PC buzz words to fill an episode of The Daily Show

            “nope, but the ignorant should be informed.”

            Ignorant? You think those who dont promote homosexuality dont know what homosexuals do? You dont even know what the word means….just more PC nonsense you heard on a 30 Rock episode.

            “how did you explain this?”

            my reply to aaron

        • http://www.myspace.com/theatomicbombaudition Aleezy

          Juke, there’s nothing PC or even pro-homosexuality about saying your arguments hold no water. Congratulations – you’re being provocative. The fact that gays can’t reproduce doesn’t mean that nature is against them. We see in humans and other animals that homosexual/homoerotic behavior is genetic. Simple. They’re not a different species, that’s why gays don’t need to reproduce to make other gays.

          So are you implying that the reason that the human species has spawned so successfully up to this point is due to a “survival instinct” that represses homosexuality in culture? Wow, dude – you’re a fucking genius. I’m sure you’re going to figure out a way to smugly process my reply so go to town on that one…

    • Death to “Bro-Metal”

      This my interpretation of the “from nature” comment – i believe he met that we’re all biologically meant to reproduce, that could be looked at as our purpose and to be homosexual could be looked at as unnatural…

      Personally to each his own, one must be at peace with the path they have chosen.

      Varg is a “D-Bag” but to be honest Varg is BM. BM started as a white supremacist movement and through the years it has become much more diverse in terms of subject matter, song writing and production. These days BM has lost most of it rascist ideology.

    • Pat

      Feh. Another of the apparent gazillions of poor persecuted religious people out there.

    • SouthFL Infidel

      I, for one, am with you Juke. Nature/God/evolution, whatever you want to call it, it made us attracted to the opposite sex because otherwise we would not mate and would not survive as a species. My point being, it is unnatural for two of the same sex to have any form of intercourse. It is just as unnatural as a grown man having sex with a chicken or an aardvark. I wouldn’t want to be friends with a guy who bangs chickens, and by that same logic I wouldn’t want to be friends with a guy who bangs guys.

      Of course, many of you will hate on me for saying that (which is fine, I couldn’t care less)…but I’m just saying that I agree with Juke that religion doesn’t by default have to be the reason for the anti-homosexual sentiment.

      • msv81

        “Nature/God/evolution, whatever you want to call it, it made us attracted to the opposite sex because otherwise we would not mate and would not survive as a species”

        Well, “it” obviously also made some people attracted to the same sex, didn’t “it”? I don’t care about being PC or anti-PC or whatever the fuck it is you guys seem to be arguing about. The simple truth of the matter is that some people, by nature, are attracted to the opposite sex and whether that’s learned, biological, hereditary, or something else doesn’t matter. I also don’t really care whether a person can accept those who choose to be with the same sex or if that kind of thing makes you sick; I simply feel like as long as someone’s lifestyle isn’t personally affecting you in some genuinely negative way, you have no right whatsoever to say or do anything to them. Love them or hate them, that’s your own agenda; commiting some sort of violent action against them, whether through words or through physical brutality, goes against very basic human principles like freedom of choice in all facets of one’s life.

        Moreover, who’s to say the point of existence is to procreate? It very well could be, but many would argue against that stance. Human beings tend to be better at destruction and death than survival in our current mess of world affairs.

        • msv81

          The simple truth of the matter is that some people, by nature, are attracted to the SAME sex and whether that’s learned, biological, hereditary, or something else doesn’t matter.

          …my bad, got a bit excited there.

          • South FL Infidel

            Procreation isn’t the “point of existence”..but it IS our only means of survival as a species. All I’m saying is, there is a reason that two men together or two women together can’t produce children. I won’t claim to be wise enough to know or understand that reason, but that doesn’t mean it’s not there.

            For the record though, I never said I believe in commiting any sort of violence against them…I’m just saying that I don’t want anything to do with it and if that makes me a “homophobe” then so be it. Many posters here are right…homosexuality has been around forever in all cultures. And in all those same cultures, for just as long, there have been people like me who have said “No way man…that shit is not cool”. Of course in this world people are free to choose…and they’re also free to choose whether or not they think it’s disgusting and unnatural. What’s funny in this PC world (which I understand you weren’t trying to be PC) is that the people who have a differing/negative opinion are treated like freaking lepers. The “tolerant” people today are the most intolerant around. Mainstream people can accept anybody from any walk of life with any sort of perversion there is…but those same people fucking HATE a guy like me and instantly look down their nose and call us “ignorant”, “uneducated”, “intolerant”, etc. What’s the matter? Can’t accept people who are DIFFERENT from you? (msv81, I don’t mean you specifically).

            That’s why i say “fuck it”. I don’t like people who mistreat children/animals/the elderly. I don’t like bullies. I don’t like people who cheat on their wives/husbands. I don’t like the Steve Miller Band. And I don’t like guys that blow other guys. Will I hold the door for them at 7-11 like anybody else? Sure. Will I provide them the same prompt, efficient service at my job like I would anybody else? Of course. Do I want to invite them over to my BBQ or hear about their date with the hot guy from Banana Republic? Hell-fucking-no. If that makes me a bad guy in somebody else’s book, oh well, fuck it. I guess I’m just a bad guy. But nobody can ever say I’m not honest about how I feel.

            And again…NONE of what I just said has to do with any religious beliefs that I have or don’t have.

        • DustintheWind

          It is better to destroy…than to create what is meaningless

          • http://seasofdreck.wordpress.com aaron m.

            you’re absolutely right. we need more abortions.

        • Moronic Colossus

          >Well, “it” obviously also made some people attracted to children/teens, didn’t “it”?

          When is this same sentiment going to apply to paedophiles?

          Or even ephebophiles?

          Or necrophiliacs?

          Or…furries?

      • msv81

        “My point being, it is unnatural for two of the same sex to have any form of intercourse”

        Really? So, I guess the 500 or so species of animals who have intercourse with the same gender makes nature itself “unnatural” in your eyes. I think you need to learn to distinguish between your own projections and reality.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

      • FuckYourGayEmoHaircut

        SouthFLInfidel speaks the truth.

      • orbital

        wow, this is the exact definition of intollerance. As some other people have mentioned, humans are so obviously not here to procreate only. Otherwise we’d eat, shit and fuck. And thats it.

        • Corpse Pus

          Hey, if you’re going to pretend to wrap up your intolerance in “science” or “facts”, at least get them straight:

          http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090616122106.htm

          Get it? I said ‘straight’. Sweet White God I’m fucking funny.

        • Juke

          “wow, this is the exact definition of intollerance.”

          So?

          • SourDeez

            Many homosexuals donate sperm or eggs, so in fact they can reproduce. And by adopting children, they help alleviate overpopulation in certain countries. Homosexuality is, in fact, completely natural. It’s not sexually deviant behavior, like shitting on people or pedophilia. It’s a biological FACT that occurs in a certain percentage of the population. No one chooses homosexuality, it occurs at the moment a person becomes sexually aware. Plus, the worst types of sex offenders are often homosexuals who live their lives trying to suppress that fact instead of admitting and embracing it. In short, homosexuality has absolutely no negative impact on society whatsoever, while homophobia has a massive negative impact, seeing as gays are undeniably a part of the general population worldwide.

          • orbital

            indeed

            well played

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Carey/100000269125084 Wayne Carey

        Homosexual sex is the same as having sex with animals? I can’t agree. Two grown consenting adults are very different than creatures or people that can not choose for themselves. One is sex and the other is rape. You make no sense.

    • heebman169

      scientists have linked homosexuality to a form of genetic mutation (i know this because i’m a bio major). if it’s part of someone’s GENETIC CODE it’s not something they have control over, its just part of who they are.

      “well you just said they’re a mutation”

      yeah, but they aren’t a fucking teenage mutant turtle. they weren’t made in a sewer somewhere. mutations have been happening in nature for as long as there has been nature. they don’t always end up successful but it doesn’t make them any less a part of the natural world. without mutations we have no evolution and without evolution we’d still be looking to the pope/ organized religion for all of our worldly

      homosexuality = mutation = evolution = nature

      so yes, it might be PC, but it’s also SCIENCE.

      so, in closing, unless you want to criticize everyone with a genetic disorder (i.e. sickle cell anemia, diabetes, etc.) shut the fuck up and educate yourself.

      • heebman169

        worldy questions*

      • timmah

        This “science” is inconclusive. Where are your findings for the so called “gay gene”?

        If you’re going to posit that homosexuality is inborn into a human being, you had better be ready with some facts. Sexuality is a malleable attribute of a human being and should be regarded as such until research surfaces proving otherwise.

        http://www.ruthblog.org/?p=542

        An excerpt:

        “SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS NOT INBORN
        Many people continue to believe that sexual orientation is inborn, although that is not true. Extensive, worldwide research reveals that homosexuality is predominately influenced by environmental factors. For instance, recent large-scale studies compared rates of homosexual behavior in sets of identical twins. If homosexual behavior were inborn, every time one identical twin was homosexual, the other identical twin would also be homosexual 100% of the time. But this is not what the research revealed. Rather, every time one identical twin was homosexual the other twin was homosexual only 10% or 11% of the time. Homosexual behavior is clearly not genetic.”

        THAT, is scientific study. Not your ramblings without any sources.

        • http://seasofdreck.wordpress.com aaron m.

          jesus h. christ. are you fucking shitting me? oh man, you’re so right. because i would really trust what a FUCKING PSYCHOLOGIST has to say on a matter regarding GENETICS. the fucking confirmation bias in that article (because it’s not actually a scientific study) alone is enough to make me want to puke. like, the fact that you would posit THAT as science absolutely baffles and angers me to the point where i want to reach through my monitor and punch you in the face just for posting it.

          i also love how the article assumes that simply being gay puts you into a high risk category for suicide. one thing that article doesn’t take into account is how gay people are marginalized and openly hated in our society. shit. if i had people telling me i was a piece of shit and hated me because of who i’m attracted to, i would probably be suicidal as well.

          and then it has the fucking BALLS to come to the conclusion that teaching children it’s wrong to accept homosexuality. shit. it even has the fucking balls to assume that ACCEPTANCE equates “endorsement” (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). this level of stupid is on par with creationism.

          and with that, please take off your pants, because i’m about to intellectually butt-fuck you.

          http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080215121214.htm

          ScienceDaily (Feb. 20, 2008) — Contrary to our previous beliefs, identical twins are not genetically identical. This surprising finding may be of great significance for research on hereditary diseases and for the development of new diagnostic methods. How can it be that one identical twin might develop Parkinson’s disease, for instance, but not the other? Until now, the reasons have been sought in environmental factors. The current study complicates the picture.

          The researchers studied 19 pairs of monozygotic, or identical, twins and found differences in copy number variation in DNA. Copy number variation (CNV) occurs when a set of coding letters in DNA are missing, or when extra copies of segments of DNA are produced.

          (i cut out a bunch of shit here. you can read the rest of it in the article if that’s your bag.)

          “The presumption has always been that identical twins are identical down to their DNA,” said Carl Bruder, Ph.D. and Jan Dumanski, Ph.D., of UAB’s Department of Genetics and the study’s lead authors. “That’s mostly true, but our findings suggest that there are small, subtle differences due to CNV. Those differences may point the way to better understanding of genetic diseases when we study so-called discordant monozygotic twins….a pair of twins where one twin has a disorder and the other does not.”

          you wanna roll? let’s go.

          • timmah

            Ok, that’s fine. Identical twins aren’t quite so identical. But that still does nothing to undermine the statement that sexuality is a malleable human trait. If ancient Rome and the homosexual relationships cultivated there between man and boy were the product of anything other than social and cultural influence, I’d bet that things there wouldn’t have changed much between then and now. What you’ve linked doesn’t prove or deny the existence of a gay gene, it only proves that more research needs to take place. And so, in response to the last person who suggested that science had proven it, once again your evidence is inconclusive.

            Did you bother to check the sources at the end of the article that I posted? The results are from actual studies. By the sounds of your response, you got upset over the fact that I would even suggest something so outrageous, that perhaps it’s NOT a natural occurrence, and so you had to resort to satire and anger-driven responses.

            I’ll keep my pants on until you give me a reason to take them off.

            I’m not interested in “intellectually butt-fucking” anyone. I’m interested in the truth, and in the event that proof cannot be known, I’m interested in the best explanation. My opinions are always open to change. It seems however that yours are not. If you wish to discuss this further, at least be professional about it.

          • heebman169

            http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20050128/is-there-gay-gene

            you don’t need a fucking university library. i literally typed “is there a gay gene” into google and that’s the first result (and, in typical google fashion, there were plenty of relevant, respectable results saying the same thing). now go, timmah, educate yourself.

          • http://seasofdreck.wordpress.com aaron m.

            @ timmah

            no, i didn’t get upset over the fact that you suggested that homosexuality isn’t inborn. i got upset because of bad science. or what i see as using science to mislead, (not yourself, mind you – that psychologist.)

            yes, i did see that the article was sourced, but unfortunately, i can’t find those sources online, so i can’t really account for the veracity of them. and that article i posted, i didn’t post to debate the existence of the gay gene so much as use it to dispute the one that you posted. but if you want me to speculate, i can pull other articles out like this one: http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/readings/homofinger/homo_finger.html (a study connecting finger length to homosexuality) or this one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=15689627&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google (the direction of hair whorls indicates hetero/homosexuality)

            and while they aren’t necessarily conclusive, they are interesting.

            but if you want to know my god’s honest opinion, the notion that anyone chooses to be gay is ludicrous, because i don’t know a single person who would choose to be marginalized by society.

          • timmah

            Thanks Heeb and Aaron for the useful links.

            Those studies show more suggestive trends, very interesting stuff indeed.

            Aaron, I appreciate your well-mannered response as well. I hate flame wars, they only cause us to lose sight of what the topic we’re discussing really is. Pursuit of truth with respect to all those involved should be our primary focus, in my opinion.

            I agree with your opinion, it doesn’t seem sound to choose an orientation that would leave someone marginalized by society, but I think that people make those decisions all the time. Choosing a certain religion depending on your geographical location can have a person mocked or shunned, arrested, tortured or even killed, but yet people still choose to believe it.

            That’s kind of the wrong example to support what I’m saying, but in my own opinion I’d say that you’re more likely to see particular developments of behavior or culture where such culture or behavior is more socially accepted.

            Science keeps bringing us closer, so I look forward to the day that we know!

          • heebman169

            look, i could spend all day tracing sources to back up any claim but the bottom line is that it’s not something someone just suddenly chooses to be. if you think that then you guy must not actually have taken the time to get to know any gay people. ask any gay person about realizing they were gay and any one of them will tell you it wasn’t their choice. sure, they may be proud of their orientation but it doesn’t mean that they chose it willingly… it’s frequently something people have to battle with from an early age and (as you said) in a society that shuns and marginalizes the kind of people they are. i don’t like flame wars either, timmah, but there’s a deeper level of knowing someone than just reading articles and publications and for me, someone who has multiple gay friends, your statement comes across as ignorant.

            my point is that people don’t choose their sexual orientation any more than they choose the orientation of their taste buds. i could love the taste of bananas but get sick at the taste of melons (like what i did there?) but it doesn’t mean i CHOSE to like bananas and hate melons. i’m sure you would both agree aaron and timmah. my point being, sexual orientation is no different than someone’s sense of taste. it doesn’t mean they consciously made the decision, just that they were born that way. it might take time to decide you don’t like melons or that you do like bananas but even that transition was accounted for in your genetic code. while i can’t point to the exact genes that cause it, it’s been pretty well established that sexual orientation is linked to genetic factors. yes, it may also be affected by environmental/ cultural/ developmental effects too but bottom line is that there has been clear links made between certain areas of the gene pool and homosexuality.

            http://borngay.procon.org/viewanswers.asp?questionID=000018
            and the pages citations
            http://www.procon.org/viewbackgroundresource.asp?resourceID=001577

            i can do this all day.

    • Sirhan Sirhan

      Just for all the retards that haven’t yet passed 4th grade english, the definition of natural is, ” a : being in accordance with or determined by nature b : having or constituting a classification based on features existing in nature.” It has been demonstrated time and again that homosexual behavior occurs in many different species in nature. Therefore, homosexuality is natural by its very definition. So, shut the fuck up with your stupid arguments about what is natural or not as if that matters. I know that one of my major goals in life is to not get bitches pregnant so i guess that makes me more unnatural than the gays!

    • Noel

      get that finger out of your ass, juke. settle down.

    • RobotScythe

      Juke, your quasi-intellectual ramblings are quite amusing. Oh by the way, I’ll have fries with that.

  • http://seasofdreck.wordpress.com aaron m.

    i’m pretty sure varg vikerness has no guilt about enjoying sex with men. “the white god” sounds like what he calls himself after getting dudes to jerk off on him.

  • John

    In the end, he loses. After all his character in lords of chaos is Eric Foreman.

  • http://Www.hibernum.net Hibernum

    If Hypocrisy can’t get in the States, and arsonist Samoth can’t, of course Varg won’t get through customs. Not there will be a tour; he’s never toured before why start now?

    Also, Varg has always been a racist jerk. Not new. He wins this one because you just gave him free publicity for his new album. Dumbass.

  • Austin

    I am faced with a pretty strong internal conflict with Burzum. As of now I have yet to purchase an album of his, but I’ve heard stuff online. I must say that I disagree with AR because I think in many ways it is the truest form of the black metal genre; more of an extreme art than a music if that makes any sense. I don’t know, maybe I’m reading too far into it. But I digress, the real conflict comes with me wanting to buy an album of his while at the same time admitting to myself that I’d be supporting a psychologically unstable racist neo-nazi and a convicted murderer. It’s a really fucked up situation. I’m all about supporting musicians I like by buying their music, but in this case I might make an exception and download. Now, if I was convicted for downloading because I didn’t want to legitimize a criminal that would be the greatest irony of all.

    • http://www.baldmosher.com baldmosher

      eBay pulled my auction for a Burzum album once, on the following grounds:

      “We appreciate that you chose eBay to list your auction-style listing(s). However, we have removed your (s) because it breaches our Hateful or Discriminatory policy. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.

      280223355122 – Burzum – Burzum/Aske (CD digipak 1997)

      Why did we remove your listing?

      In accordance with our User Agreement, items prohibited by law or by eBay policy are not allowed on eBay. You’re not allowed to list items that promote or glorify hatred, violence or racial intolerance, or items that promote organisations with such views on eBay.”

      OK so I know the b/g on Burzum but I really couldn’t work out what part of the album was supposed to be Naziist as I read the lyrics and liner notes from cover to cover. It was, however, very shit, so I listed it again, with a note on the description along the lines of “prove it before ending my auction” and it sold perfectly well. I guessed it was pulled because of a personal complaint from an eBay fascist (very ironic) the first time I listed it.

  • Zoker

    He plays black metal.

  • Facebook User

    the work he did in the past reflected the feelings of the people int he area at that time.
    what happened could never have happened differently, therefore, metal has progresed to the stage it is in today for one reason: the people.

    ignorant old bastard

  • Caspar Colderson

    on a sidenote, album-names in norwegian sucks… in any scandinavian language really…

    • fasshole

      oh the irony.

      • Caspar Colderson

        yeah, it’s pretty horrible.

        • fasshole

          what? what’s horrible?

          • Caspar Colderson

            the irony, it’s pretty cruel…

  • fasshole

    Also, anyone that said he makes shit music clearly hasn’t listened to Filosofem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Harrington-Neil-Sauer/677600672 Harrington Neil Sauer

    varg still > than juggalos and breakdowncore upper middle class hxc dancers

    even though he’s still fucked up

  • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

    Dude the beard itself says it all. You cant play the racist, tr00 , tough guy, elitist act when you look and sound like a douchebag. To quote Mike Tyson “You wouldnt last two minutes in my world Bitch”

    Stay in Norway tool.

  • Fufkin

    Well I’ll give Varg credit for consistency: he was an utter twat in ’92 and he’s still an utter twat now.

  • pariah

    whoa, a black metal artist with strong opinions. better keep him away from americans.

    • gnarlk

      in actuality it seems more like cheap shock tactics to sell records to his brainwashed fan base than actual “strong opinions”

    • Double D

      But, no seriously, keep him the fuck away from us Americans.

  • AATHD

    Finally!!

    I’ve been waiting for this news for a while and it’s great to finally hear. This could be another case for a revival of metal. Let’s hope it pulls through.

    Vikernes makes some interesting comments at the official website regarding the new album, it’s reassuring to hear him speak about its ideal listening conditions for example. He seems to have kept the original spirit – “to stimulate the fantasy of mortals”.

    “The White God” is one of the epithets of Baldr. It’s not racist (and even if it is, fuck you!)

  • Kye

    Well, my beliefs don’t exactly coincide with Varg’s, but I respect the guy. Quite a bit. The guy has strong beliefs and he stands by them.

    I also just enjoy that some people in the metal community are still against drugs.

    And yea, Burzum is the shit. I can’t wait for this album.

  • South FL Infidel

    Does anybody else think he looks like the dad from “Family Ties”? Either that or he could be a stand-in for one of the MythBusters guys.

  • CharliesBronson

    GAY

    • http://myspace.com/bennymasonband Brock Englander

      Best name, best comment.

  • dan

    the word racist is thrown around so much these days it really doesn’t mean much to me anymore, words like racist, anti-Semitic, conspiracy theorist are just used to shut people up and stiffel any real argument/discussion. I think it does a great disservice to actual instances of racism, anti semetism ect. Anyways, Varg is a murderer plain and simple, which si pretty fuckin metal

    • Noel

      how you like these words: your a fucking idiot. killing people is metal? well, then i guess ill go kill your mother. and your kids. and your wife. and your dog. dipshit.

      • Some Random Dude

        thats pretty metal.

        • Santa Claus

          Shit, now I have to go kill somebody.

    • Alkahest

      Varg is clearly racist. “Stereotypical negroes”? Really!?

      • http://www.baldmosher.com baldmosher

        I thought “Negroes” was what Varg called black metallers who weren’t tr00?

  • MBK

    I’m sensing that some folks here just hate blow jobs. You know, because they aren’t for reproduction and are therefore some sort of messed up genetic dead end path that will result in the weakening of the human race.

    I am pro blow job, and I’m PC enough to say it.

    • Sirhan Sirhan

      BURN HIM

    • orbital

      i’m also sensing some people hate girl on girl action. Because thats gay shit.

  • Mike

    So… Good job on accusing a guy of doing something there is no proof of him ever doing. You guys are disgusting fucking hippies.

    • syclonus

      he killed euronymous. he admitted it. his whole “self defense” story also smacks of bullshit, although he might just be insane. you’re fucking stupid.

      • syclonus

        unless you’re talking about the homosexuality, in which case you’re probably right

  • Kovarikiller

    Metalsucks just plain out sucks…
    Giving praise to shitty bands then saying shit about good bands.
    Fuck you all!
    Burzum is awesome

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

    I allways hated Black Metal and allways thought this guy was an asshole. This article changes nothing.

    • 20 eyes

      do you know him personally?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        Do I really have to?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Navarro/1025899902 George Navarro

    They call that beard a “cum catcher.”
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  • oBESTIALo

    burzum = one hit wonder, guys a doosh

    • 20 eyes

      theres no such thing as a metal “hit”

  • anthony

    My eyz, ze guggles dey du nuthing

  • MOOSE_KNUCKLE

    Best post in a while, seriously fuck varg he should of got the shank in prison.

  • Matthijs

    Varg is a genius and just hilariously stirring the pot to make cash.”The White God” is Baldr and he is trying to promote pagan ideals and heritage but at the same time he knows a lot of “white power metal heads” buy his shit. If you read Burzum.Org it becomes obvious that Varg is both a hyper-genius and an angry racist but that does not mean he does not make a lot of valid points about the absurdity of modern society, the disease of christianity, and the relative stupidity of most metalheads.I am not defending him though and he would surely hate me for my “negro-like activities”. I find it interesting that he fails to find love for the Genre he helped create, kinda silly.

  • http://myspace.com/grobiwunder grobi wunder

    1st: Did you know that there are countries in which gang rape in prison isn’t as common as it is in the U.S.? And i’d bet A LOT of money on Norway being one of them!
    2nd: Everything else you said about Vikernes and his music – True. So fruckin’ true.
    On the comment: It’s good to see I’m not the only one annoyed by this childish homophobia.

  • Kevin M

    It looks like prison didn’t change Varg a bit. What’s the over/under on how long it takes Varg to burn down another church? I can’t wait for a new Burzum album though, now that Varg has access to more than just a keyboard for the first time in what seems like forever.

  • profane gnosis

    I don’t understand why, when someone like Vikernes spouts racist or homophobic opinions, there are people who say “i bet he’s secretly gay!”, like that’s some kind of insult.

    Varg says he hates Christianity too, so does that mean he secretly loves the baby jesus?

  • pigchop

    Nailed to a cross of contention, the white god feasts on the spoils of furious masturbation.

    http://i.imagehost.org/0114/vargchrist.jpg

  • Dave

    No, prison rape is FAR more common in America than abroad. It’s no accident when you take into account the fact that America accounts for 5% of the world’s population but accounts for 25% of the world’s prision population. The American prison system is a leviathan unequalled in human history. And we think we’re so great……………………

  • Cam

    Might sell 100 copies

    • Kevin M

      I doubt Varg cares how many copies he actually sells. If he does care about album sales, he’s just another hypocrite in the black metal world.

  • Canvas Of Flesh

    Can’t wait for the new album. It’s a day one buy for me. Regardless of his personal views, he makes good music.

  • Trux

    South FL Infidel says:
    November 18, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    Procreation isn’t the “point of existence”..but it IS our only means of survival as a species. All I’m saying is, there is a reason that two men together or two women together can’t produce children. I won’t claim to be wise enough to know or understand that reason, but that doesn’t mean it’s not there.

    For the record though, I never said I believe in commiting any sort of violence against them…I’m just saying that I don’t want anything to do with it and if that makes me a “homophobe” then so be it. Many posters here are right…homosexuality has been around forever in all cultures. And in all those same cultures, for just as long, there have been people like me who have said “No way man…that shit is not cool”. Of course in this world people are free to choose…and they’re also free to choose whether or not they think it’s disgusting and unnatural. What’s funny in this PC world (which I understand you weren’t trying to be PC) is that the people who have a differing/negative opinion are treated like freaking lepers. The “tolerant” people today are the most intolerant around. Mainstream people can accept anybody from any walk of life with any sort of perversion there is…but those same people fucking HATE a guy like me and instantly look down their nose and call us “ignorant”, “uneducated”, “intolerant”, etc. What’s the matter? Can’t accept people who are DIFFERENT from you? (msv81, I don’t mean you specifically).

    That’s why i say “fuck it”. I don’t like people who mistreat children/animals/the elderly. I don’t like bullies. I don’t like people who cheat on their wives/husbands. I don’t like the Steve Miller Band. And I don’t like guys that blow other guys. Will I hold the door for them at 7-11 like anybody else? Sure. Will I provide them the same prompt, efficient service at my job like I would anybody else? Of course. Do I want to invite them over to my BBQ or hear about their date with the hot guy from Banana Republic? Hell-fucking-no. If that makes me a bad guy in somebody else’s book, oh well, fuck it. I guess I’m just a bad guy. But nobody can ever say I’m not honest about how I feel.

    And again…NONE of what I just said has to do with any religious beliefs that I have or don’t have.

    I TOTALLY AND I MEAN TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS DUDE RIGHT HERE !!!!……… I COULD NOT SAID IT BETTER !!

    Geez, feel good to know that you are not the only one who feels that way..

    Cheers to you , South FL Infidel !!

    • noddy

      i once drank my own cum from vikernes arsehole. tasted like cat shit

      • gnarlk

        fuck you noddy, i’m not vickerness.
        you’ll get super aids from me in the eye

        • noddy

          already have aids. got it from my father in the middle of a buckfast bottle double anal experiment. i took the thicker end up me shitter and bled profusely down the bottle,whence he proceeded to drink the blood from my aching ass and puke it back down my throat. i love him.

          • noddy

            i hope i die soon

          • gnarlk

            fuck i need cock and quick, the only thing that can save me is french cock and lots of it

  • http://www.flamingtusk.com Zosimus

    That photo of Smilin’ Varg V. has brought me so much joy ever since the first time I saw it on his bugfuck insane Burzum website.

  • mal666

    i remember hearing about that noddy fella and him drinking some guard dogs cum at the prison and saying it tasted just like varg

  • noddy

    fuck

  • noddy

    triple cunt times a thousand

  • mal666

    is it the same noddy who used to smuggle negros into the prison up his hole to trade for a pack of matches ?

  • Masonic Wehrmacht

    I hope he burns a church down. But seriously, I like me some black metal (mostly black and thrash like Sadistic Intent, Bestial Mockery, Summon, Aura Noir, Nifelheim) but Burzum just gives me an earache. Fuck, it’s so boring. I’d rather listen to Brokencyde. Fuck I can’t believe I just said that, kill me now.

  • Dimelg

    Suck my black circumcised dick, Varg

  • pfk505

    a million times yes. he’s a ridiculously overrated, loudmouth pile of crap. his music was never more than average-at-best black metal. so many others have done so much more with the genre than this idiot could ever hope to.

  • cm

    okay

    okay

    maybe he DOES deserve to be portrayed in a movie by the fucking Twilight kid

  • ScrewSociety420

    I used to like Varg. Then I figured out that he’s just a fucking prick.

  • FUK YOU

    FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR SHITTY WEBSITE TOO…take this as an appreciation token from me…SHITFUCKS!!!!

  • rob

    honestly u r a hunk of pig shit for writing that about varg vikernes. if i were u i would fucking noose my self in my living room. with the help of ur kids so they could watch such a pathetic man die. and then they could live their lives with out such a pathetic excuse of a father. if u dont have kids then it would be better that their not raised by such an ignorant fuck. the main point is that u should go die a fucking painful death.

  • varg my brother

    what are you talking about, boneheads? When Varg did his great music all of you where in pieluchy yet:) You grow up leasing to just a commercial shit. So stay as you are now. Dont talk about something that you have no idea. I know this music for 15 years.And you? I love it for the music, not ideology. But I love Burzum imagination, pictures that gives music of him. This is music, music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pete

    Music you say?
    This is SPARTA !!!!