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	<title>Comments on: TIBERIAN VOCALIZATIONS: ARTHUR VON NAGEL ON POST-BLACK METAL (AND BEING A SHAMELESS METAL NERD)</title>
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		<title>By: benelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>benelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see you getting a tenured faculty position at UCSC, probably the school likely to offer an entire course on metal.</description>
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		<title>By: StoneMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>StoneMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Behemoth is most certainly black metal.</description>
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		<title>By: Jono (Degenx2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jono (Degenx2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Arthur, I never knew you were a post-black nut like me. I love all the bands you listed, though Solefald is the only one I&#039;ve extensively listened to, the rest are on my &#039;Tried it, loved it, must have more&#039; list XD. Problem is I listen to stuff so slow cause I like to really get a feel for all of my music, so I have a massive catalogue of stuff that I want to try.

To the people reading this column, I&#039;d like to recommend Borknagar, Vintersorg, and Cronian. All 3 have the some lead singer, but they all have vastly different styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Arthur, I never knew you were a post-black nut like me. I love all the bands you listed, though Solefald is the only one I&#8217;ve extensively listened to, the rest are on my &#8216;Tried it, loved it, must have more&#8217; list XD. Problem is I listen to stuff so slow cause I like to really get a feel for all of my music, so I have a massive catalogue of stuff that I want to try.</p>
<p>To the people reading this column, I&#8217;d like to recommend Borknagar, Vintersorg, and Cronian. All 3 have the some lead singer, but they all have vastly different styles.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Wilfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Wilfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole french music scene is pretty top notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole french music scene is pretty top notch.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur von Nagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur von Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you liked the article.  Check the subtle link in the before-last paragraph.  You&#039;ll see I have you covered.  :-)

I&#039;ve been a fan of BAN since The Work Which Transforms God.  The whole French BM scene in general is top-notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you liked the article.  Check the subtle link in the before-last paragraph.  You&#8217;ll see I have you covered.  :-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a fan of BAN since The Work Which Transforms God.  The whole French BM scene in general is top-notch.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing, there&#039;s a french band that you really, really need to listen to, maybe you&#039;ve heard about them before: BLUT AUS NORD, specially their last album: Memoria Vestula II: Dialogue With The Stars...
It is....  profound...emotional...raw, well i strongly recommend it, and by the way Great article!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing, there&#8217;s a french band that you really, really need to listen to, maybe you&#8217;ve heard about them before: BLUT AUS NORD, specially their last album: Memoria Vestula II: Dialogue With The Stars&#8230;<br />
It is&#8230;.  profound&#8230;emotional&#8230;raw, well i strongly recommend it, and by the way Great article!!</p>
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		<title>By: pfk505</title>
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		<dc:creator>pfk505</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>waitwaitwait.. HEart of the ages AND Omnio? really?  I love that band up until Omnio, at which point they turned into some type of fused goth/doom metal, complete with the operatics and female vocals.  HEart of the ages is a terrific album.

I nevertheless agree with the poster who said most of these aren&#039;t black metal at all (not that it matters).  I don&#039;t really consider &quot;post-black&quot; a genre in itself, more a &#039;black metal influenced&#039; , but I do enjoy a lot of it, especially (lately) alcest, lantlos, fen and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waitwaitwait.. HEart of the ages AND Omnio? really?  I love that band up until Omnio, at which point they turned into some type of fused goth/doom metal, complete with the operatics and female vocals.  HEart of the ages is a terrific album.</p>
<p>I nevertheless agree with the poster who said most of these aren&#8217;t black metal at all (not that it matters).  I don&#8217;t really consider &#8220;post-black&#8221; a genre in itself, more a &#8216;black metal influenced&#8217; , but I do enjoy a lot of it, especially (lately) alcest, lantlos, fen and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: groverXIII</title>
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		<dc:creator>groverXIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to ...And Oceans at the moment... pretty good stuff. I really like the electronic elements. Like folk metal, I find that it adds a certain amount of melody that wouldn&#039;t normally be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to &#8230;And Oceans at the moment&#8230; pretty good stuff. I really like the electronic elements. Like folk metal, I find that it adds a certain amount of melody that wouldn&#8217;t normally be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck Billz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck Billz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I agree with you, I&#039;m just bein&#039; a butthole.  Ulver has way more in common with Einstürzende Neubauten and Coil than they have with black metal.  However, I do feel like much of their post-black material retains the same moods as their early work, and I think that is admirable considering that each of their records is remarkably dissimilar to its predecessor.  Also, there&#039;s about a twenty-second stretch in Ulver&#039;s &quot;The Truth&quot; from &lt;i&gt;Blood Inside&lt;/i&gt; that sounds to me like black metal played with keyboards and samplers.  Now I&#039;m just being an ass, haha.  Seriously, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I agree with you, I&#8217;m just bein&#8217; a butthole.  Ulver has way more in common with Einstürzende Neubauten and Coil than they have with black metal.  However, I do feel like much of their post-black material retains the same moods as their early work, and I think that is admirable considering that each of their records is remarkably dissimilar to its predecessor.  Also, there&#8217;s about a twenty-second stretch in Ulver&#8217;s &#8220;The Truth&#8221; from <i>Blood Inside</i> that sounds to me like black metal played with keyboards and samplers.  Now I&#8217;m just being an ass, haha.  Seriously, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur von Nagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur von Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you sir, glad you like my writing and our music.  Touring is a question of money, which we have none of.  But I&#039;m trying to put something west coast on for spring next year.  Will try to hit the east later.  If it&#039;s any consolation, our song Blood on the Cornfields is about a unique event in your state&#039;s history.

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V49fS1OMJXQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you sir, glad you like my writing and our music.  Touring is a question of money, which we have none of.  But I&#8217;m trying to put something west coast on for spring next year.  Will try to hit the east later.  If it&#8217;s any consolation, our song Blood on the Cornfields is about a unique event in your state&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>Here:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V49fS1OMJXQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V49fS1OMJXQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arthur von Nagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur von Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, neither Belphegor nor Behemoth are real black metal.  They&#039;re blackened death metal at best.  What bands do you like?  I&#039;m sure I could recommend you some form of black metal you&#039;d enjoy.  If you want something with more refined production, try more symphonic, progressive or folky black metal-ish bands like Borknagar, Vintersorg, Arcturus, Limbonic Art, Vesperian Sorrow, later Emperor, Enslaved, later Taake, mid-period Keep of Kalessin, Forefather...

There&#039;s tons of stuff.  The genre is incredibly broad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, neither Belphegor nor Behemoth are real black metal.  They&#8217;re blackened death metal at best.  What bands do you like?  I&#8217;m sure I could recommend you some form of black metal you&#8217;d enjoy.  If you want something with more refined production, try more symphonic, progressive or folky black metal-ish bands like Borknagar, Vintersorg, Arcturus, Limbonic Art, Vesperian Sorrow, later Emperor, Enslaved, later Taake, mid-period Keep of Kalessin, Forefather&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s tons of stuff.  The genre is incredibly broad.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah i realize these aren&#039;t black metal, but i felt like i needed to say it anyway.  sorry for the rash statement.

i&#039;ve had a chance to hear the songs in this article now and they&#039;re surprisingly listenable. i wish the production on the bands from this article was better (though i guess that is part of the charm? or maybe just youtub quality?).

as for black metal bands i don&#039;t like to hear, Belphegor and Behemoth are the two main ones i remember. i don&#039;t know what styles those are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i realize these aren&#8217;t black metal, but i felt like i needed to say it anyway.  sorry for the rash statement.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve had a chance to hear the songs in this article now and they&#8217;re surprisingly listenable. i wish the production on the bands from this article was better (though i guess that is part of the charm? or maybe just youtub quality?).</p>
<p>as for black metal bands i don&#8217;t like to hear, Belphegor and Behemoth are the two main ones i remember. i don&#8217;t know what styles those are</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Tannen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biff Tannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perdition City is a fucking masterpiece !</description>
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		<title>By: groverXIII</title>
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		<dc:creator>groverXIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to your recommendations, I&#039;m checking out In The Woods and ...And Oceans. Both sound pretty interesting. Should be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to your recommendations, I&#8217;m checking out In The Woods and &#8230;And Oceans. Both sound pretty interesting. Should be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: ECDEU</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECDEU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, I&#039;m just wondering, but when are you guys going on tour? Ever since this blog started I have started to listen to your music and I like it. Please come to Virginia (Richmond mainly)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, I&#8217;m just wondering, but when are you guys going on tour? Ever since this blog started I have started to listen to your music and I like it. Please come to Virginia (Richmond mainly)!</p>
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		<title>By: ECDEU</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECDEU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my favorite guest blog on this site. DO MORE ENTRIES!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: George Navarro</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Infernal War! You&#039;ll get your balls kicked!</description>
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		<title>By: Arthur von Nagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur von Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;3 Zilty</description>
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		<title>By: Arthur von Nagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur von Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange In Stereo&#039;s music is fantastic but I feel the vocals got a little more ambitious than what Jan Transeth could deliver at that point.  Omnio&#039;s vocals were more restrained and fit the instruments better in my opinion.  And the black metal shrieks on HEart of the Ages of course the just melt my face off.  But I agree that SiS is a great album as well.  If you can get your hands on their double live album, I highly recommend it.  I love their White Rabbit cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange In Stereo&#8217;s music is fantastic but I feel the vocals got a little more ambitious than what Jan Transeth could deliver at that point.  Omnio&#8217;s vocals were more restrained and fit the instruments better in my opinion.  And the black metal shrieks on HEart of the Ages of course the just melt my face off.  But I agree that SiS is a great album as well.  If you can get your hands on their double live album, I highly recommend it.  I love their White Rabbit cover.</p>
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		<title>By: SonOF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SonOF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great in-depth, well-written article about a genre (or at least a sound) I wanted to know about.  Excellent work, one of the more interesting and useful articles I have seen here in a bit.  I&#039;m really digging these &quot;guest&quot; writers; most are terrific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great in-depth, well-written article about a genre (or at least a sound) I wanted to know about.  Excellent work, one of the more interesting and useful articles I have seen here in a bit.  I&#8217;m really digging these &#8220;guest&#8221; writers; most are terrific.</p>
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