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	<title>Comments on: VILLAGE VOICE WRITER ELOQUENTLY DISSES TORCHE, MASTODON, BARONESS AND PELICAN IN ONE FELL SWOOP</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-823351</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baroness used to be a shitty punk cover band that was full of them self when they sucked. They stole all of their direction from bands that were creative in their hometown in  Virginia and then Georgia. Outside of baizley having graphic talents I can&#039;t say a good thing about any of them. Having grown up with them I know they are pure assholes who think they are better than everyone else. When they are found passing throught the home town they are ashamed to claim they can&#039;t be bothered to say hello to the people who weren&#039;t so lucky to get record deals. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baroness used to be a shitty punk cover band that was full of them self when they sucked. They stole all of their direction from bands that were creative in their hometown in  Virginia and then Georgia. Outside of baizley having graphic talents I can&#8217;t say a good thing about any of them. Having grown up with them I know they are pure assholes who think they are better than everyone else. When they are found passing throught the home town they are ashamed to claim they can&#8217;t be bothered to say hello to the people who weren&#8217;t so lucky to get record deals. </p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-373933</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you guys. I live in Chicago too. I think you might have to be in one of the &quot;bigger&quot; cities to really understand that all this stuff is old news and overdone. Beards, bikes, butt tight black jeans and metal is now the status quo.

I like the article... It&#039;s an unapologetic call out of a lot or rehashed, overly technical, too thought out, un-rock&#039;n&#039;roll nonsense going on lately with creaters of heavier music and their fans.

I will personally say I&#039;m not a huge metal fan myself, but I&#039;m with Biff, and I have a pretty good shit detector myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you guys. I live in Chicago too. I think you might have to be in one of the &#8220;bigger&#8221; cities to really understand that all this stuff is old news and overdone. Beards, bikes, butt tight black jeans and metal is now the status quo.</p>
<p>I like the article&#8230; It&#8217;s an unapologetic call out of a lot or rehashed, overly technical, too thought out, un-rock&#8217;n'roll nonsense going on lately with creaters of heavier music and their fans.</p>
<p>I will personally say I&#8217;m not a huge metal fan myself, but I&#8217;m with Biff, and I have a pretty good shit detector myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Metalcelt</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-367532</link>
		<dc:creator>Metalcelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been on here for a while bagging on The Blue Album. If there&#039;s an over-rated album that&#039;s come out in the last 5 years I&#039;ve yet to read about it. Mutton dressed as lamb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on here for a while bagging on The Blue Album. If there&#8217;s an over-rated album that&#8217;s come out in the last 5 years I&#8217;ve yet to read about it. Mutton dressed as lamb.</p>
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		<title>By: Coby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obvious troll is obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obvious troll is obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-363059</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I as well. I never got into Mastodon until I heard Crack the Skye. I love the album, but even now I still can&#039;t sit through their earlier ones. Just sounds like noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I as well. I never got into Mastodon until I heard Crack the Skye. I love the album, but even now I still can&#8217;t sit through their earlier ones. Just sounds like noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Lybrium</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362988</link>
		<dc:creator>Lybrium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point, insistently needing to label everything one encounters is insanity, you end up blind, seeing the same things over and over again and truly believing that that is all there is to it.  It&#039;s just one perspective, just one opinion, one, infinitesimal linear way of looking at things, in a vast non-linear universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point, insistently needing to label everything one encounters is insanity, you end up blind, seeing the same things over and over again and truly believing that that is all there is to it.  It&#8217;s just one perspective, just one opinion, one, infinitesimal linear way of looking at things, in a vast non-linear universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Lybrium</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362968</link>
		<dc:creator>Lybrium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cheers, douche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cheers, douche.</p>
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		<title>By: Lybrium</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362967</link>
		<dc:creator>Lybrium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly, what the hell was the catalyst to write an entirely, 100% negative article??? If thats the village voice, get me the hell out of the village and to the pelican show, where you&#039;re all brothers and sisters.  Not divisional, heartless, big-head&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly, what the hell was the catalyst to write an entirely, 100% negative article??? If thats the village voice, get me the hell out of the village and to the pelican show, where you&#8217;re all brothers and sisters.  Not divisional, heartless, big-head&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Lybrium</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362963</link>
		<dc:creator>Lybrium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to write this, friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to write this, friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Lybrium</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362959</link>
		<dc:creator>Lybrium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT is what YOU make it.

I enjoy running around aimlessly and cliche fist pumping to Mastodon and Pelican with reckless abandon, especially in my home, where there are no asshole&#039;s trying to decide whether they like me and my music or not.  But then again, maybe I&#039;m fucking delusional and actually staring at my feet, nodding to and fro...

I hope people notice the futility and calculative, candy-coated cleverness of this egojaculated article...see? It&#039;s not that &quot;eloquent&quot;, we can all do it.

It&#039;s just an opinion, and it is what you make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT is what YOU make it.</p>
<p>I enjoy running around aimlessly and cliche fist pumping to Mastodon and Pelican with reckless abandon, especially in my home, where there are no asshole&#8217;s trying to decide whether they like me and my music or not.  But then again, maybe I&#8217;m fucking delusional and actually staring at my feet, nodding to and fro&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope people notice the futility and calculative, candy-coated cleverness of this egojaculated article&#8230;see? It&#8217;s not that &#8220;eloquent&#8221;, we can all do it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just an opinion, and it is what you make it.</p>
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		<title>By: fvkkall</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362618</link>
		<dc:creator>fvkkall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it&#039;s all hipster metal but you like what you like. As for Torche, their older stuff is far more metal and has, I think, one of the heaviest songs of all time:

TARPIT CARNIVORE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rr5qIDObgo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it&#8217;s all hipster metal but you like what you like. As for Torche, their older stuff is far more metal and has, I think, one of the heaviest songs of all time:</p>
<p>TARPIT CARNIVORE</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rr5qIDObgo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rr5qIDObgo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dirtman73</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362217</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirtman73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes fucking way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes fucking way.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin_Tasseltine</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-362109</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin_Tasseltine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biff and co. - 
This is what really pisses me off about a lot of metal fans: &#039;x band don&#039;t have songs, therefore they&#039;re shit&#039;. This is like saying &#039;William Burroughs doesn&#039;t stick to standard narrative conventions, so he&#039;s a shit writer&#039;. Only a thicko would make that argument. And similarly, only a thicko would say that SunnO))), Boris, Aphex Twin, &amp;c, are &#039;shit&#039; because they don&#039;t replicate the same fucking verse-chorus-verse structure as everyone else. Do I like good anthemic metal? Absolutely. Do I then judge SunnO))) by the same standard as &#039;We&#039;ve Come For You All&#039;? No, obviously, because that would be stupid - they are trying to do different things. Why are so many metal fans, who witter endlessly about the &#039;herd instinct&#039; of those who like chart music, so terrified of anyone making avant-garde music? Metallica aim to write &#039;songs&#039; - therefore it&#039;s fair to say that, if their songs don&#039;t stick, they haven&#039;t succeeded. The same is not true of, say, Swans, Neurosis, Earth or Blut Aus Nord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biff and co. &#8211;<br />
This is what really pisses me off about a lot of metal fans: &#8216;x band don&#8217;t have songs, therefore they&#8217;re shit&#8217;. This is like saying &#8216;William Burroughs doesn&#8217;t stick to standard narrative conventions, so he&#8217;s a shit writer&#8217;. Only a thicko would make that argument. And similarly, only a thicko would say that SunnO))), Boris, Aphex Twin, &amp;c, are &#8216;shit&#8217; because they don&#8217;t replicate the same fucking verse-chorus-verse structure as everyone else. Do I like good anthemic metal? Absolutely. Do I then judge SunnO))) by the same standard as &#8216;We&#8217;ve Come For You All&#8217;? No, obviously, because that would be stupid &#8211; they are trying to do different things. Why are so many metal fans, who witter endlessly about the &#8216;herd instinct&#8217; of those who like chart music, so terrified of anyone making avant-garde music? Metallica aim to write &#8216;songs&#8217; &#8211; therefore it&#8217;s fair to say that, if their songs don&#8217;t stick, they haven&#8217;t succeeded. The same is not true of, say, Swans, Neurosis, Earth or Blut Aus Nord.</p>
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		<title>By: DidgeryDo</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-361650</link>
		<dc:creator>DidgeryDo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right Voegtlin. You see for some people the ultimate insult does not involve an unintentionally
comedic display of obscure synonyms. Sometimes it&#039;s good enough to call a pretentious douche
what he is instead of feeding into his insatiable hunger for insubstantial displays of intellect.

For instance when I read you&#039;re article I was not thinking &quot;wow this guy must be so smart for 
knowing these words or his clever ideas.&quot; I was more wondering if you were in fact so 
wise then how could you not notice the irony in blasting people for creating unmerited
ascociations with intellect when you appeared exactly the same in your article with every
unecessarily  flowery sentence. If you were not so busy stretching you&#039;re face down to you&#039;re 
butthole to inhale a fragrant whiff of you&#039;re own farts after masterfully bookmarking thesaurus.com
to incorporate every sentence with academic hyroglyphics you might have actually noticed that.
Fortify you&#039;re arguments with logical consistency next time instead of a bland stacatto machine gun 
assault of verbosity. In the internet age it is not impressive.

And yeah you clearly are a douche. Sorry if this lacks an ironic post-modern deconstructive tongue 
in cheek acerbic wit fit to make any overly-caffenated self-important twit cream his shorts but you 
have to admit, it does accurately describe you. To me that&#039;s good enough :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Voegtlin. You see for some people the ultimate insult does not involve an unintentionally<br />
comedic display of obscure synonyms. Sometimes it&#8217;s good enough to call a pretentious douche<br />
what he is instead of feeding into his insatiable hunger for insubstantial displays of intellect.</p>
<p>For instance when I read you&#8217;re article I was not thinking &#8220;wow this guy must be so smart for<br />
knowing these words or his clever ideas.&#8221; I was more wondering if you were in fact so<br />
wise then how could you not notice the irony in blasting people for creating unmerited<br />
ascociations with intellect when you appeared exactly the same in your article with every<br />
unecessarily  flowery sentence. If you were not so busy stretching you&#8217;re face down to you&#8217;re<br />
butthole to inhale a fragrant whiff of you&#8217;re own farts after masterfully bookmarking thesaurus.com<br />
to incorporate every sentence with academic hyroglyphics you might have actually noticed that.<br />
Fortify you&#8217;re arguments with logical consistency next time instead of a bland stacatto machine gun<br />
assault of verbosity. In the internet age it is not impressive.</p>
<p>And yeah you clearly are a douche. Sorry if this lacks an ironic post-modern deconstructive tongue<br />
in cheek acerbic wit fit to make any overly-caffenated self-important twit cream his shorts but you<br />
have to admit, it does accurately describe you. To me that&#8217;s good enough :)</p>
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		<title>By: DidgeryDo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DidgeryDo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh. I think the real irony is he complains about insubstantial attempts of bands to sound inteligent while using words like &quot;puerile&quot; or &quot;erudition&quot; in the same breath. I don&#039;t even need a thesaurus to write like that it&#039;s just that most of the time I chose not to. Honestly I can picture this guy bending down in between each paragraph to inhale a lovely gust of his own farts. ( or &quot;flatulence&quot; as I&#039;m sure he would have put it).

Mastodon is a great band. I have not heard Pelican and can&#039;t say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh. I think the real irony is he complains about insubstantial attempts of bands to sound inteligent while using words like &#8220;puerile&#8221; or &#8220;erudition&#8221; in the same breath. I don&#8217;t even need a thesaurus to write like that it&#8217;s just that most of the time I chose not to. Honestly I can picture this guy bending down in between each paragraph to inhale a lovely gust of his own farts. ( or &#8220;flatulence&#8221; as I&#8217;m sure he would have put it).</p>
<p>Mastodon is a great band. I have not heard Pelican and can&#8217;t say.</p>
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		<title>By: krunkulor5000</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-361368</link>
		<dc:creator>krunkulor5000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The same goes doubly for Florida’s Torche, which often sounds like Looney Tunes composer Carl Stallings tearing through Helmet’s late oeuvre in double-time.&quot; - GOLD

if you sip tea and listen to metal too much you end up like that, think my buddy calls it Red Carpet Crew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The same goes doubly for Florida’s Torche, which often sounds like Looney Tunes composer Carl Stallings tearing through Helmet’s late oeuvre in double-time.&#8221; &#8211; GOLD</p>
<p>if you sip tea and listen to metal too much you end up like that, think my buddy calls it Red Carpet Crew</p>
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		<title>By: SourDeez</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-360934</link>
		<dc:creator>SourDeez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s because people think your writing helps vaginas stay clean, but in fact it&#039;s bad for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s because people think your writing helps vaginas stay clean, but in fact it&#8217;s bad for them.</p>
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		<title>By: D MANNs</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-360657</link>
		<dc:creator>D MANNs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be the most intelligent and even handed internet reply discussion I&#039;ve ever read. Good on ya &#039;metlers.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be the most intelligent and even handed internet reply discussion I&#8217;ve ever read. Good on ya &#8216;metlers.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-360614</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* another failed musician sexually abusing his thesaurus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* another failed musician sexually abusing his thesaurus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/12/01/village-voice-writer-eloquently-disses-torche-mastodon-baroness-and-pelican-in-one-fell-swoop/#comment-360612</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>second that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>second that.</p>
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