REGARDING DECIBEL’S 100 GREATEST METAL ALBUMS OF THE DECADE (AND LISTS IN GENERAL)
Wednesday, December 2nd, 2009 at 11:00am by Axl RosenbergHere’s what I don’t understand about all these lists: why they make people so very angry. When we set out to make our 21 Best Albums of the 21st Century (So Far) list earlier this year, we pretty much knew from the outset that it would be unsatisfactory. For one thing, there were only going to be 21 albums on the list, which meant a lot of great records were going to get left off; for another thing, we made the decision early on to allow bands to have multiple albums on the list if that was the way the voting turned out, and that meant that even more artists who deserved recognition weren’t going to get it; and finally, there was the very issue of how you even go about compiling such a list – we thought it was exciting to solicit the opinions of a lot of prominent musicians and industry insiders (as opposed to just the MS staff), but that approach obviously had its pros and cons, too. I’m not apologizing for or disowning our list – I’m just pointing out what should be obvious, which is that it was meant to be a fun conversation starter, which, from our end at least, is exactly what it was. And who really gives a shit which albums did or did not end up on that list? You know which albums you love and which ones you hate, so you shouldn’t need MetalSucks, or any other media outlet, to validate your opinion. I think Albert Mudrian is a great writer and is way more knowledgeable about metal than I am, but my ego isn’t so frail that I need him to agree with my every assessment of every band and every album.
Which brings me to what this blog post is actually about: Decibel’s 100 Greatest Metal Albums of the Decade special, which you can order here. It’s considerably more comprehensive that our list was, but I imagine most intelligent metal fans will also find it just as infuriating, and just as fun.
If my count is correct, fourteen of the twenty-one albums that appeared on our list all ended up on Decibel’s list, including at least two that I seem to recall a lot of our readers criticized for allegedly not being metal. At least two of the albums and four of the bands that made our “we wish they made the list” post-list list are also on here, and four of our top five albums all found their way on. I don’t like every album on Decibel’s list any more than I like every album on our list, but I will say that I respect every album on their list the same way I respect every album on our list – in other words, I wouldn’t really give anyone shit for proclaiming their love of any of these records.
A band that figured really, really prominently into our list didn’t make the cut at all for Decibel, and the complete omission of that band strikes me as the biggest fault of this Decibel special edition. Love them or hate them, I’d argue it’s impossible to deny their impact on metal in the past ten years – they are, simply put, one of the biggest and most respected bands in modern metal, and they’ve achieved that status for a very good reason, regardless of whether or not they’re generally perceived as tr00. I’m honestly kind of shocked that not a single one of their albums – not even the early shit, before some people started calling them sell-outs – made its way onto the list.
That will inevitably piss some people off, and it won’t be the only aspect of the magazine that does so: there are a surprising amount of entries that were just released in 2009 and will therefore probably strike some readers and having yet to withstand the test of time (even if “time” in this instance is ten years or much less). There are still other albums that will make the aforementioned allegedly non-metal records seem like the heaviest fucking things ever recorded, and that’s probably going to upset some people, too.
But like I said – who really gives a shit? This magazine is so much goddamn FUN. Decibel works with so many great writers, most of whom got to write entries here: Cosmo Lee, who we’re constantly gushing over here at MS, and Nick Green, who contributed to our own list, and Zena Tsarfin and J. Bennett and Kevin Stewart-Panko and John Darnielle and Jeanne Fury and our own Etan “Satan” Rosenbloom and a whole lot of other people my pot-head brain is forgetting right now. If you love metal, you just have to read the way these men and women write about it, because that writing is always, without fail, thought-provoking.
And if you read through the magazine and listen to albums you’ve haven’t given a spin in a long time, or violently disagree with everything and find yourself scouring your iTunes library and CD/vinyl collection to compile your own list… if all that came of any of this was just getting to revisit hours and hours of great music… would that really be the worst thing in the world? And who knows – there are 100 fucking albums here. You’re likely to discover at least one you didn’t know before that you will now love.
Go order a copy now. You can only buy this special issue online and at select indie record retailers, but even with shipping and handling, it’s pretty cheap. And like I said, it’s just a great read, cover to cover, even if you’re the kind of person who can’t help but get angry because someone expresses an opinion that’s different from your own.
And then, once you’ve had a chance to look it over, come back here and tell us how bad it sucks and how you’re so angry that your favorite album didn’t make the cut/was ranked too low/whatever, and how I’m an asshole for lying to you and saying it’s a fun read.
-AR
P.S. While I’m singing Decibel’s praises – I just found this oral history of the magazine, which is pretty interesting.









70 COMMENTS on “REGARDING DECIBEL’S 100 GREATEST METAL ALBUMS OF THE DECADE (AND LISTS IN GENERAL)”
im guessing the band decibel left out was killswitch engage, in which case i really couldnt care. thanks for not spoiling any of the list, hoping this is in my mailbox when i get home.
love them or hate them you have to respect it. They sell shit tons of records, are very very talented and put on a great live show. just sayin
Selling shit tons of records doesn’t garner any sort of respect from this cocky asshole.
killswitch is there… sadly
I figured he meant Mastodon
remission is on the cover. maybe slipknot or in flames or gojira
was guessing killswitch too. i can buy them leaving off the howard jones albums, but alive or just breathing? come the fuck on. funny too how killswitch was on one of the early decibel covers, guess that was before they decided they wanted to ignore anyone perceived as accessible or tied to certain labels (except for mastodon of course).
I’m guessing Tool. Love them or hate them, their impact on metal is huge.
I have a subscription to Decibel and I am not getting this special edition! FUCK. I wonder if Axl is talking about Killswitch Engage or Lamb of God. I have not seen the list but it sounds like its on of those two bands. Decibel seems to not cover some of the more popular bands from issue to issue anyways. To leave either of those bands off the top 100 sucks.
I thought he was bringing up Slipknot.
I thought Slipknot too.
He said multiple albums. Slipknot only had 1 on the MS list.
Hmm… Truth. Maybe it’s Lamb of God then. I guess I’ll see when my magazine comes in.
Tool???? Or the Deftones?
From what I can gather on Decibel’s website the band left off the list is Lamb of God. I’m not really a LOG fan, but I don’t see how they could be totally shut out of any top 100 list of the decade. Seems like sour grapes or score settling if you ask me. Regarding Killswitch, I’ll be the first one to admit that the Howard Jones incarnation of the band is pretty tame and boring, but Alive or Just Breathing certainly deserves a prominent spot on any list of this sort. That album is insanely fucking good.
I’m gonna go ahead and say TOOL.
and GO SATAN!
theres no way they left off tool. my guess is either Lamb of God or In Flames
I only look at these lists for ideas of bands I may have missed out on. I was proud to be the owner of 20 out of 21 albums on the MS list. Some people take their music opinion too fucking seriously, especially those with a narrow boring taste.
He is probably talking about Killswitch, which fucking sucks. Alive or Just breathing is one of the best records I’ve ever heard. And ‘TEoH’ is awesome too. Decibel definitely gets a huge minus from me.
It’s not KSE
If it’s not something I can read online, then I don’t care. The magazine is an outdated medium.
wrong.
Yeah… and fuck books too. Dumbest comment I’ve seen in a while.
You can’t read the computer on the toilet!
Not true. Laptops.
tell that to me, whilst I’m currently doing it
The best argument anyone can have against these lists is “It’s wrong because I don’t like these bands”.
I don’t see why people get so riled up about these best whatever lists. Take them with a pinch of salt, enjoy the fact that it’s cool to see a band or artist you like recognised and if they’re not on the list it means you can feel smug and elitist because you’re waaaay too underground for this kinda thing. No one said these lists were the gospel truth, just someone’s opinion.
Well I guess the only way of knowing is spending those 6 bucks. Will do when I get home
I really really feel as though I’m missing something with LOG. Maybe its because these guys are the next Pantera or whatever and I only ever thought of Pantera as “pretty good” and not best metal band of the 90s/2000s/ever. I just haven’t heard riffs that I’m crazy about, I don’t like the vocals, and the lyrics for the most part seem kind of uninspired. It could also be that the whole “meat and potatoes” thing doesn’t appeal to me as much anymore ’cause I’m in such a tech-death mindset. Still, can someone please show me a song that really makes a good case for LOG. I’m talking about their best song here. And if I see anyone post one fucking link to Set to Fail or Redneck I’m writing them off forever.
hourglass, as the palaces burn, vigil, ruin there’s a lot off of the second and third albums
Set toFail and Redneck. Classic songs. Like em or like em, there is no hating those tracks
i cant hate them but i wouldnt think of them as their best, even though i love wrath
What is the point of lists?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,659577,00.html
At least this list has isis and electric wizard included, might be pretty good i’ll have to take a look.
Will Ziltoid be on the Decibel site moaning about each and every pick?
Hopefully.
Maybe I shall…
I’m pretty sure that the list will mostly comprise of the shit sandwich core bands than quality metal.
Decibel, while easily the best major metal magazine out there in the pleistocene land of print media, generally gets written off as Hipster Beardo nonsense by the haters anyway. That said, I was a tad skeptical of their choice of Baroness’ “The Blue Album” as best metal album of 2009.
Whatever. I have a subscription and the day it arrives is generally “get stoned on the couch and read Decibel for three hours” day.
Its true though. Like they are making some statement by leaving popular bands out of their magazine aside from Mastodon. It is fucking stupid. I get decibel every month and literally skip over half the mag because its all bullshit on awful bands 10 people care about. I appreciate staying tr00 to the “underground” but give me a fucking break.
Why the fuck do I have to order this issue online when they could’ve either posted the fucking list online or at least released the issue to book stores?
marketing.
Just shell out the six dollars you cheap motherfucker.
here’s hoping Jane Doe and Close to a World Below made the list. Converge and Immolation are definitely the bands of the decade for me.
again look at the cover. Jane Doe is on it
the blackening by machine head is the best album of the decade .
All I know is that Nasum’s album “Shift” made the list…one of the best and angriest grindcore albums ever.
How can you compare yourselves to Decibel? You guys have horrible taste in music and they don’t.
what the hell are you doing here then?
axl please post what band it is you think was so overlooked. i’m very curious.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess Decibel’s list sucks donkey cock.
Guys, I’ve got a Top 100 list and there isn’t nearly enough bitching going on. Spinelanguage.wordpress.com
now go and tell me how much all the bands that I like suck!
i dont know why lamb of god wouldent be on there. but thats my guess hhaa.
Yes, from the looks of it an Iron Maiden album, I dont know why converge are always on these lists.
…because they put out 4 amazing albums this decade?
The whole list is laughable. Nothing on there is metal. It’s all fake metal. If you have an album that can be bought in stores, you’re not metal. If you come from the US, you’re not metal. In fact, nothing is metal. If you play metal, you’re not metal. Real metal does not exist, only posers. I’m gonna go masturbate and cry at the same time now.
poser
lol, the best part is that I’ve heard the argument that, “if it’s available in a store, it’s not metal” as a non-ironic statement before. This comment had me lol
Well, Matt, that’s because people are fucking stupid.
I found the list posted in a forum. Looks like Trivium got left out. I know I will get a shitstorm for saying it, but The Crusade is one of my favorite albums ever.
Dude. Da fuck? I got it in the mail today, and just read it, and Slipknot and Lamb of God are both not on here. That sucks balls. They both have, at the very least, 3 albums apiece that should be on here. And no ‘Colors’? What the fuck Decibel?
If you read Decibel, you would understand why these bands aren’t on the list. It’s the same with the MetalSucks list. I understand why Isis nor DEP were on their list, cause I’ve recognized that this site doesn’t generally love these bands. If you look at lists by critics you’ve followed and become to understand, you’ll realize that, though you may not agree with them, most of the entries are understandable.
I’m pretty sure Axl is referring to LoG, cause those mother fuckers have how many places in MS’s list? 3? So… ya.
LoG is fucking terrible though.
*weren’t.
Good point, but I just gotta disagree with them being left off. Both of those bands have done way too much for metal in the last 10 years.
I can’t agree with you on them doing a lot for metal. I think Isis, Mastodon, Converge and Neurosis have done much more for metal’s progression. But I do love Iowa and I would have liked to see it on the list. But I wasn’t surprised not seeing it on Decibel, though I was for MS. Why Subliminal over Iowa, I have no idea. Plus, like Axl said, you know what you like and you know what you don’t. My opinion, find a website that has a good personal track record in terms of presenting new bands and raving reviews and stick with them. I have to say though, I MUCH prefer Decibel over MS, but I think the two have very different intentions.
Yeah, I can see where you’re coming from with the bands you listed. Especially Mastodon. It really wouldn’t be the same without them. Leviathan did wonders for me. But, to me at least, it kinda feels like Slipknot opened a lot of doors with their self-titled. lol That album hit the world hard dude (of course, it was released in 1999). And, also, like I mentioned above, I can’t see myself legitimizing a list like this with the omission of BTBAM’s ‘Colors’. There’s no fuckin’ way there are ONE HUNDRED metal albums better that that one. Sorry, ain’t happenin’.
while i agree that bands like converge, isis, and mastodon should be a part of this list, i do not think they should have every album they released on this list. those three bands amount to more than 10% of the list.
bands like queens of the stone age and at the drive in should probably not be on this list either, especially if tool got excluded.
its hard to find a list like these that aren’t excluding some sub-set of the genre. power, progressive and plain old metal get left off these lists to include post-hardcore and alternative bands that have some fringe metal appeal.
Id much prefer LOG and Slipnot on a list than Banana Melt.
Having seen the list today, I have no problem whatsoever with the top 5: all were groundbreaking albums, and Jane Doe is my top album of the decade with ease.
Converge is over represented here. i finally saw them last month and was not impressed. i laughed at them, not with them, out loud from the back of the club. to see them have the #1 record on the decade is one thing i can get over, but to see every album they made make the list is a little depressing.
And how the hell did Shellac & Fugazi make this list? love the bands, but metal? that’s just pandering if you’re not going to include Melvins (a senile animal) or Big Business (here come the waterworks)