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MARDICK

 Wednesday, December 9th, 2009 at 11:30am by

Jumping on stage at a metal show is a risky proposition. Some bands are totally cool with it, some bands aren’t. There’s also probably a right way and wrong way to do it; grabbing one of the musicians is probably not the best idea, although I certainly understand the desire to high five your favorite band member or whatever. But you have to know going into it that the band might not be as chill with the concept as you were hoping.

That being said… the below video showed up on Blabbermouth this morning, and, really, it’s not cool, or even especially funny. Basically this poor kid – who looks like he’s probably not sober but whatever – gets up on stage, tries to hug Marduk front dude Mortuus, and for his troubles… Mortuus flips him. Doesn’t just push him away, doesn’t just call for security or whatever, but full-on Mr. Miyagis the poor guy. It just strikes me as a gross overreaction. And we’re actually one of the sponsors of this tour… but I just can’t see my way to condoning the way Mortuus handled the situation.

Skip to the 1:16 mark of the below video to watch the incident, then weigh in and tell me why I’m right or wrong about Mortuus being really uncool about this.

-AR

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  • http://www.myspace.com/whitearmsofathena Josh

    It was better when maynard did it.

    • http://www.myspace.com/adeadissue KillaKyle

      He choked the guy out on stage. That sir, was awesome.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        HaHa he’s crazy.

  • Fufkin

    Surely deserved for the lack of shirt alone?
    Nobody wants to have sweaty manflesh rubbed on them, especially on stage.

  • rich

    That was ridiculous, he completely overreacted. Its as if he was being mugged or something and wanted to fuck the guy up and run away, but instead he just fucked him up and continued as if nothing happened. I was kinda excited to see Marduk, but now I will always associate them as “dicks”. i can’t help it now :(

    • Dilznoofus

      Just playing devil’s advocate here: He has no clue who this guy is or what he wants. For all he knows, the fan was crazy and had a knife or a gun.

      • ab12

        ^this, plus who knows i bet the kid is happy as anyone to be judo flipped by mortuus and then have a video to show for it

      • JJBeback

        If I may play devil’s advocate as well: why would he hug the guy if he planned on stabbing or shooting him? Just seems like a dick move to me.

        • metalguy

          he’ll look friendlier. maybe he heard about varg and assumed all black metallers like men and tried to get him from behind (PUN INTENDED)

    • chxd

      im sure they’ll be extremely upset to know this

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Graham-Mitchell/1663908033 Graham Mitchell

    it was an overreaction but we’re talking about MAYHEM – one of the single-handedly SHITTIEST bands on the face of the planet. the only reason people ‘respect’ them is because of their back-story. worst music ever. douche-central. i guess i appreciate and respect other humans too much…

    • Canvas Of Flesh

      No, you’re talking about MAYHEM! We’re talking about Marduk. Different band, moron.

      • xpurposex

        3p1c w1n!!!111one

    • http://raiseyerfists.wordpress.com raiseyerfists

      We’re actually talking about Marduk, but I think the rest of your paragraph can stand.

      • Trux

        10000000

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Morley/618112437 William Morley

      Retard.

  • Chimp-O-Neg

    It didnt look that bad to me, and the guy kind of walked into it really.

  • http://www.radioactivesandwich.com slice two

    fuck marduk. that was a douche move.

    • Skanes

      Agreed, fuck that guy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Winnett/504952291 Daniel Winnett

    i think i’m gonna side with mortuus on this one
    look if you’re playing a hardcore show or something where the stage is a foot off the ground then it’s pretty well accepted that the crowd come on stage and rock out with the band
    but this is not hardcore, this is black metal, and lets face it black metal isn’t exactly renowned for it’s “one for all and all for one attitude”, in fact last time i checked black metal has a certain sense of elitism to it
    either way i just in general think it’s a massive act of disrespect to come up on someone elses stage (without being invited to do so) during the show

    • Natalie

      HAHAHA. People that look at metal as if it’s some sort of “tr00 lifestyle” that condones practically breaking some dude’s back on equipment should… have their back broken on equipment.

      People need to lighten the fuck up and realize this isn’t cool, no matter how “black metal” you are. Hahaha sorry I just can’t stop laughing.

      • Natalie

        And also, yeah, I understand the Dime references and all of that. And yeah, the dude came at him from behind. But flipping him over your back? REALLY?! It didn’t even look like the dude got a second look or anything.

        • syclonus

          you clearly missed the entire point of black metal.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

          +1000 to you Natalie. Black Metal fans are JP from Grandma’s Boy with no
          exceptions and the dildo recepticles they worship are giant d-bags who
          can’t play music…..just Black Metal.

          • NoNameNoSlogan

            wow nice broad generalization Colin O’Connor. are all hip-hop fans gangsta criminals? are all hardcore fans spinkicking-windmillpunching-douche nozzles? Are all Irish people bar fighting alcoholics?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            Not all just most :)

  • ugh….

    Fuck Marduk….and Mortuus, stupid cunt.

    • ugh….

      moreso…he flipped him right onto the monitor…could have easily broken that dude’s back…

      “Oooh we’re so black metal with our upside down cross and ninja moves”

      fuck off.

      • xpurposex

        That dude shouldn’t have got on the stage. He wasn’t a performer that night, he had no business being up there.

        If you go to a comedy show, is it ok for someone to climb on stage and hug Dave Chappelle? No! So it shouldn’t be accepted here either.

        • gauche

          is it accepted at hardcore or punk shows? yes. in fact, a lot of the time it’s encouraged.

          • xpurposex

            Is this a hardcore or a punk show? No! It’s different standards, too bad.

            You can’t go to Taco Bell and order a Whopper just because Burger King has them.

          • Nick

            How many hardcore and punk shows have you been to? This is not accepted behavior at any show. The worst part is that he even paused and looked at the guy before he did it…

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

          Jackass we are not talking about whether this is accepted or not. The point
          is whether or not a broken back is a just consequence for being drunk at a
          show and acting a little dumb.

        • Facebook User

          that would be so fucking hilarious. but still that beyond over reacting. there is security, maybe a slight push at the most

        • Coby

          This isn’t a comedy show either…it’s a “different standard”
          way to contradict yourself so quickly asshole.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Douwe-Sibma/1408432428 Douwe Sibma

    It’s a little overreacted, but I don’t think it’s cool to just get on stage and hug the frontman. With black metal it’s more of a performance, you can’t just get up there. With bands like Flogging Molly or The Bloodhound Gang it’s more of a tradition, but with metal I think it ruins the atmosphere on stage.

    • Facebook User

      agreed

    • Natalie

      Again, wake up. It isn’t written in stone that you can’t jump up on stage in black metal.

      • Trux

        i am with you Natalie…

        Fuck Black metal….. the shittiest of all metal subgenres…

      • xpurposex

        I’m pretty sure nothing is written in stone these days Natalie. We either write on paper or blogs…. or drunk friends who pass out at parties…

        Regardless, I agree with Mortuus. If you are getting on stage without the group inviting you on stage, you are putting them in an awkward space. You also need to look at it in the realm of black metal. Whether you agree or disagree personally, everyone knows that the black metal scene can be uptight and no-nonsense. They are elitist and nihilist. The guy was drunk and got what he deserved.

        Just because you paid for a ticket doesn’t mean you get to be on stage.

        • Natalie

          teehee you are funny. IT’S NOT ON AN OFFICIAL BLACK METAL BLOG DOODE.

          • http://www.myspace.com/adeadissue KillaKyle

            It may not be a blog, but what the guy did to the front man is a form of heckling. AND ALL HECKLERS SHOULD BE TAUGHT A LESSON PHYSICALLY.

          • xpurposex

            I think someone should shoot a heckler once and then you never have to worry about somebody pulling that shit again….

            Shirtless guy: “Should we run up on stage tonight?”
            Black-shirt wearing guy: “No, those guys shot a dude last week.”

            PROBLEM SOLVED!

      • Magneto

        Yeah, may not be written in stone, but if this is any indication, you probably shouldn’t.

        By the way, that way hilarious. He put his arm around the guy as if he was cool with it and just totally decieved him and fucked him up. I sorta feel bad for the dude, but it was REALLY funny, though I doubt Mortuus finds the humor in it.

  • Kevin M

    I’m sure Mortuus was just trying to live up to the badass persona that he has created for himself. That being said, I’m not sure if he overreacted, because people are fucking crazy. For all Mortuss knows, Mr. Shirtless is an insane stalker that wanted to hug him, and then carve some flesh off or Mortuus’s back for his shrine at home. Granted, this is a highly unlikely scenario, but you can never be too careful.

    • Kevin M

      I forgot to mention, great form on the hip toss.

    • zack

      his name is fucking MORTUUS? hahahaha thats stupid. thats not badass at all.

      • Kevin M

        It’s black metal…his name could be Cokkgobbler and he would probably still think of himself as a badass.

        • Ronnie

          It’s funny ’cause it’s true!

  • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

    And if he didn’t react, he’d be criticized too.

    • fasshole

      /\ The truth.
      People would say that he’s a poser or something along those lines.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

      OK because random guys removed by bouncers from the stage of obscure black metal acts
      ALLWAYS makes headlines and I’m sure we’d here about it right away and criticise him…….

  • http://themusicarium.blogspot.com/ Matty O’Shea aka Matt Steele

    2 words — Dimebag Darrell.

    4 words — awesome hiptoss from Mortuus

    • orbital

      thats what I was thinking. How can you critisize him for wanting to protect himself when you never know what someones intensions are?

    • Bill

      This. In a post-Dime climate where you have to be aware at all times what’s going on on the stage, I don’t put any blame on Mortuus at all. In fact, it looked almost staged to me from him coming from the back of the stage. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it comes out he’s part of the road crew or something.

    • xCOOCOOKALx

      first thing i thought too. i wouldn’t take the chance of being shot in the face.

      • gauche

        it seems the terrorists truly have won if a bunch of metalheads are scared of what a drunk shirtless dude might or might not do.

        • Lybrium

          EXACTLY!

          “this is a post-dime climate…”

          Bro’s, we can’t be afraid of each other! Just because terrible, scary things happen once in a while, doesn’t mean you start suspecting each other and hurting people. why don’t people get it? Bud, if you THINK this to be a “post-dime climate” then YOU make it that, you don’t have to be afraid and hostile, you don’t have be paranoid, that’s what your government wants, all the easier to control you, next you will be thanking them for the nation-wide curfew. Would you rather live in a suspecting, rule-driven culture, or a trust and honesty based one? You reap what you sow.

  • justin

    mortuus definitely overreacted… he could’ve broken that dude’s back. while it’s not too cool of the fan to hop on stage for hugs with the band, mortuus should’ve handled himself more professionally.

  • Canvas Of Flesh

    I don’t have the slightest problem with what Mortuus did. I don’t care if you’re playing on stage or not, you have the right not to have your personal space invaded. In my eyes, he acted accordingly.

  • Bunbelievable

    Fans should not be able to walk up to a musician on the stage whenever they feel like it, especially in the middle of a song. Although I see no mention of it here or on Blabbermouth, Marduk had apparently been experiencing monitor problems up to and past the point when the fan got dropped. In other words the dude was poking at an angry bear when he went on stage.

  • drunkwithpower

    What a shit head, if a bouncer had done that everyone would be talking about how the nazi security staff needs to reigned in. If you don’t want to interact with fans, don’t go on tour.

    • orbital

      LOL, stupidest comment ever. Fans can interact with bands all they want at the merch table. Being in a touring band does not equal open season on your personal space.

  • RobotScythe

    Granted, hugging the guy back wouldn’t have been very black metal-y at all and he has his tough guy black metal image to consider (roll eyes) but flipping the guy like that was a douche move and a cheap shot. And where the fuck was their security???

    I appreciate the fact that since Dimebag’s death bands have a right to be a little edgier when people come up on stage,but throwing a guy across yor monitor is just dangerous and irresponsible. What if that guy had broken his back and was paralyzed? Legally, he would’ve had Marduk by the balls.

    • Biff Tannen

      “Legally,he would’ve had Marduk by the balls”

      Get the fuck outta here, moron. Did you go to Hollywook Upstairs Lawschool or something ?? Im SURE the guy violated the rules of the club by going on the stage in the first place. I know that if he would’ve jumped on the stage at the House of Blues in Chicago, he would have been arrested and charged with crimal tresspass and disorderly conduct (which happend to my friend 4 years ago).

      Look at the back of any ticket stub at a legitamate venue/club, and they all say “Not responsible for personal injury…etc etc and that the patron is aware that he is waiving all liability on part of the club/performer.

      • http://www.myspace.com/somethinglikesweet CJ

        Ticket doesn’t say anything about the performers not being liable. Dude didn’t say shit about the venue.

        • Biff Tannen

          If you jump on the stage at a concert, you are CLEARLY violating the rules………this dude would be laughed out of court.

          • http://www.myspace.com/somethinglikesweet CJ

            I disagree.

      • DustintheWind

        hahahaha Hollywood upstairs law school… with Dr Nick

        • Biff Tannen

          Hi Everybody !!!

  • evrenseven

    I echo the comments regarding Dime- especially given the proximity to a 5th anniversary, who knows what psychos are out to do what. Let’s face it- there are a lot of sick fucks that share the floor with the vast majority of us cool and responsible concertgoers.

    I saw Slayer at the Warfield in SF soon after Dime’s death, and a guy climbed the stack on stage right and jumped onto the stage. He was taken out worse than any football hit I’ve ever seen. Dude flew probably 15-20 feet back into the crowd.

    Also, it looks like Marduk didn’t see the guy until he was right next to him trying to hug him. Maybe if it was a drunk fan, wobbling across the stage with no shirt on and arms outstretched and clearly showing he wasn’t armed or something, it would have been overreaction.

  • cougar party

    I guess Mortuus could have been less dick about it, but at the same time going on stage uninvited can end up getting ugly really quick. I went to a show last year where some guy jumped on stage and punched the lead singer/guitarist right in the face for no reason.

    I wouldn’t bust his balls over it, but I think if I were a fan, I would respect him less for the way he handled it.

  • i think

    the whole of Marduk deserved to be raped by 100 big black guys

    • Biff Tannen

      why are you always thinking about black cock?

  • Zoker

    Marduk is just another awfully bad band trying to stick to a genre and a culture which are completely ridiculous… the dude deserved worse than that just for attending at a Marduk show… on the other hand I hope Mortuus’ll die tonight chocking with the shit he uses for his fuckin facepaint. All I have is hate for them.

  • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

    wow, what an asshole

  • brosupre

    If Dimebag flipped that guy over instead of being gunned down . . . we’d have more shitty Damageplan albums or worse, he’d be in Hellyeah with Vinnie Paul. You all just think of that.

    • Biff Tannen

      + 10

  • Jordan

    shit happens… i remmeber when i saw corpe live.. corpsegrinder shoved his booot so far up my friends ass he had hard time walking a day after… also!! if you want your performance to be perfect you ARE going tlo get angry if some drunk shirtless guy comes up.. sure its an over reaction but as a front man i would probably have done the same thing

  • b-rad

    i just looked it up… “Mortuus” is Swedish for “daddy touched me”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelly-Wayne-Miller/1231733283 Kelly Wayne Miller

    That was just mean as fuck. Seriously, he was just trying to show his love for the band and guaranteed they just lost a ton of fans from the show and this video alone. It’s not like he was trying to hump him or anything, he was just like..”Hey man whats up” then he just flips him over and nearly snaps his neck. I hope they rot in black metal hell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rik-Powell/286400508 Rik Powell

    It’s a black metal band, what do you expect. Hugs are neither troo nor kvlt.

  • You Don’t Know Me

    I look at it as a self defense thing. Yeah, he could have let it slide and let the guy have fun but you never know with people nowadays. It’d rather be safe than sorry.

  • DruM

    Dude’s a cunt. Love the music, but honestly, that was a bit over the top. If you look closely, it looks as though Mortuus was going to accept the hug, luring the dude in, locks in the fans elbow and then just does the old switcher-fucking-oo. This is the first reason why dude’s a dick. Secondly, this whole fucking “he has to live up to his badass status.” Fuuuuuck that. If you’re lucky enough to have fans that are so infatuated with you that they pass security and risk the chance of being tackled by some guard, just to hug you, or whatever, you know, embrace the fact that you’re so lucky. This transcends any type of of fucking character acting. Thirdly, the Dimebag situation. Valid point, but these guy’s don’t have anywhere near the status Dimebag had. This is why I agree with Maynard’s reaction, though it’s much funnier cause he locks him in and continues to sing. Tool is huge, Marduk, not so much. But I’ve said it once in the Varg article, and I’ll say it again. This, in no way, effects how I see their music. I love their music, I just won’t make the same mistake this dude does if I go to their show.

  • Facebook User

    You mean grown men that wear clown makeup are douchebags? I never would have guessed that.

  • bobovdeath

    what kind of an idiot jumps onstage to “hug” the singer for marduk? thats just stupid..whats he supposed to do- be all smiley and hug him back? i dunno if he shoulda slammed him THAT hard,it was overreacting,but its probably kinda cheezy to expect a hug or some metal bro-downess from the singer for marduk while hes onstage doing his thing.

    • Zoker

      Yeaaaaaah cause we are eeeeeeeviiil!!!!

  • Nick

    I’m with every other sensible person on this, Complete over-reaction… I just saw HORSE and The Chariot last night, fans climbing on stage was a pretty normal occurrence. Hey guess what the bands didn’t try and go out of their way to injure a fan, Instead If someone overstayed their welcome they would get pushed back into the crowd. Everyone is happy and the show goes on.

    Honestly I’m glad I skipped the Toronto stop on this tour, I don’t care how BR00TAL that idiot thinks he is, he’s just a douche-bag in my books.

  • iwrestledyourmomtwice

    Oh fucking please to all the people who are saying he over reacted. 5 years ago yesterday Dimebag was murdered by some douchebag who jumped on stage. There is no longer an over reaction to somebody rushing the stage. The kid may not have deserved it but…too bad. You never know what someones intentions are.

    • SolaceInNothing

      This is an excellent point!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-Tims/1313713879 Bobby Tims

    it was a bit much but you can’t take that chance. Security should have stopped him.\, but he shouldn’t have flipped him like that. Marduk is still a great band though, i’ll just make sure never to go up on stage if and when I see them

  • Justin Foley

    It’s obviously not okay to flip someone over who just comes up to you at Sbarro’s and says “hi, what’sup” . That would be an inexcusable overreaction, no matter how much you didn’t like them.

    That said, people can get themselves into a different place when they’re performing. I don’t hold Mortuus’s behavior on stage to the same absolute level that I would off-stage. If he’s pouring his heart into the performance and that’s what people are there to see, I’m not going to call him a dick for lashing out. I don’t care about the style of music or the band’s reputation for evil – I would give the same consideration for Low as I would to Marduk.

    Sure, he overreacted. He shouldn’t have flipped the guy and I hope the fellow wasn’t hurt. But the band does what they have to to get up on stage and play in front of people. Folks who want to fuck with that should expect any range of behavior. Music performances can get intense.

    Oh, and this “post-Dimebag” stuff? Give me a break. I don’t think every cop should treat me like I’m a possible terrorist because of 9/11. Likewise, I’m not going to say that performers should be looking at everyone who comes to their shows – including the drunk and shirtless – as potential gunmen.

    = Justin

    • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

      I beg to differ with the first scenario you presented.

  • http://www.myspace.com/somethinglikesweet CJ

    Well, you can chalk me up with you guys that think he’s a dick.

  • Noobie McNoob

    I don’t blame him. It’s not like the fan jumped on stage from the front in full view. Rather he came from behind, and you just never know how someone will react in that situation.
    If you do shit like that, you have to deal with the consequences.

  • SolaceInNothing

    I love Marduk, i dont think that was the best coarse of action, but who the fuck gets o stage and tries to hug the front man? The guy didn’t derserve that, but just think about this . . .

    These performers are hyped up, into chracter, and are not expecting something like that. I watched it a couple times, when I first saw it I was under the impression that it was a kneejerk reaction, but idk.

    Im not saying that excuses anyones actions, but it was not smart at all for that drunk fan to do what he did.

  • DemonicLemming

    Hypocrisy here – almost anyone would have done the same thing on the street (if they were physically able) if someone came up and grabbed them from behind. Same thing happens on stage, and suddenly everyone hates on the dude defending himself. Adrenaline + instinct + trying to grab someone from behind at a completely unexpected moment = fucked up retard fan.

    • Zoker

      If you’re behind a friend you can just put a hand on his shoulder to let him notice you… I don’t think that friend would hip toss you without checking who’s bothering him… am I wrong? Mortuus here doesn’t even look at the guy… he just locks his arm and does the hip toss… for what’s the dynamic, he could have tossed a technician without knowing.

      • DemonicLemming

        Depends on the situation. If you’re working on something and completely engrossed it in and your buddy comes up and slaps your shoulder, he might not get hip-tossed, but he might get a screwdriver in the face. Different scenario – at a bar, same people, would very likely have a different outcome. Jumping on stage and trying to grab a musician while he’s completely focused on his thing, adrenaline going, added to the slew of “physical incidents” that have happened at concerts in the past few years from being shot to punched to getting bottles to the face, I don’t blame him for what he did. It was likely just a combination of instinct, adrenaline, and dipshit fan doing the wrong thing at the wrong time.

        Disclaimer: I don’t even know what this band sounds like, let alone have ever listened to them, just arguing the point from an objective standpoint.

      • Biff Tannen

        “If you’re behind a friend you can just put a hand on his shoulder to let him notice you… I don’t think that friend would hip toss you without checking who’s bothering him… am I wrong? Mortuus here doesn’t even look at the guy… he just locks his arm and does the hip toss… for what’s the dynamic, he could have tossed a technician without knowing.”

        Actually, if you watch the video closely, the guy had his hand on him for a second or two before Mortuus noticed him. Seems to me like Mortuus thought the contact may have been one of his band mates, then he turned around a bit, and was like “Who the fuck is this !!??” and hip tossed him. Big fucking deal! The guy on stage deserved it

        • jason

          I actually agree. Why is it so hard to understand why some drunk asshole climbing onto the stage mid set would be unwelcome and met with a hostile gesture? I don’t think that’s being a dick…the uninvited guy IS a jackass though.

  • FrostMechanic

    Yeah, fuck that. The guy paid for a show and made it onstage without security stepping in and gets flipped on to a monitor. If I were Mortuus, I’d blame the guys running security above anyone else.

    Dick move on Mortuus’ part.

  • SHOCKTROOP

    douchebag definitely deserved every bit of that and more. security probably stomped his ass afterwards as well

  • Sacajawea

    Honestly, I’m willing to bet he didn’t intend to flip the dude onto the stage monitor or speaker or whatever the fuck it is. I would have loved to be “the guy that got flipped by Mortuus”. He probably was thinking it wouldn’t be a big deal, and didn’t realize the equipment was so close.

    I might be wrong though. I try to find the good in people. Shame on me I suppose.

  • xBEARFIGHTx

    THERE’S NO HUGGING IN BLACK METAL!!!!!!!!

  • Facebook User

    Its 50/50

    The guy could have simply shoved him offstage or something. No need to brutally flip the guy onto his back.

    However, I know if I was in a band and on stage I’d be slightly wary of some sweaty intoxicated fucker coming up to hug me.

    TL;DR

    Mortus is a dick.
    The guy who got flipped is an idiot in the first place.

    • prives

      This sums up what I was thinking.

  • TIm-o-tato

    That is a venue my band frequents…
    Their security are a bunch of lame idiots.
    No real sense of what’s going on…

    Either way, a sad, sad day for ‘Danielson’ who got p000o0oned…haha
    There was a 55% over reaction, he could have just pushed the poor guy. Not
    flip him on to a monitor…ouch! haha

    • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

      I got all excited, I thought the first part of your comment was some kind of poem.

  • Bob

    the guy put his hands on him uninvited in a familiar manner. I don’t see it as an overreaction .Marduk aren’t some good time metal party band either, I don’t know what would possess someone, who is a fan of Marduk, to think that was appropriate .
    A stranger gets on your stage while you ‘re performing and puts his sweaty man tits all over you , perhaps you might react violently.That guy presumably doesn’t know the singer and really shouldn’t assume its ok to get in is personal space never mind embrace him like they were old friends from back in the day.
    So he hip tossed the guy, big deal, he had ample opportunity to kick this guy in the head when he was down and he didn’t. He did what was necessary to get the guy off of him and no more.
    Worse things happen in the pit ,I remember Billy Milano mopping the floor with people back in the day as well HC bands like Slapshot, getting on stage at a Slapshot show was sure fire way of taking your teeth home in your pocket.
    Go shave your fuckin vaginas when you get done crying about this.
    You young fucks think your civilizing metal but your just over-intellectualizing (read de-clawing) metal to make it safe for your scared asses.
    Everyone should know, if you get on stage and you’re not in the band you might get a high five OR you might get your ass handed to you.
    Stay safe you blouse wearing poodle walkers.
    Love, Bob

    • Biff Tannen

      BOB 2012 !!!

      You summed it up perfectly. These 14 year olds have no concept of reality.

    • fasshole

      Thank you Bob.

    • B. Ewing

      thats right. this IS metal we are talking about, its not casual music, metal people are passionate….he’s lucky he didn’t get a spiked cuff to the throat at a BM show.

      • B. Ewing

        Holy shit check out Keith Richards dealing with a fan! Bruutal!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK0y02HvVc

        • vaste burai

          for real, mang! let’s get real… jump on my stage and fuck up what i have dedicated my life to, in front of 1000′s of people that are there to enjoy the show, i’ll break your face.

  • meow

    That was fucking awesome. He deserved it.

  • Nick D

    I’d find it a reasonable reaction if it wasn’t for the delay, it was like he took his time to enjoy it

    if you’re actually doubtful of the intentions of someone getting on stage then you don’t even let him get close

    fuck em

  • BigJordowski

    Was far more epic when Maynard did it, he body-locked that guy and kept singing the rest of pushit, thats how you deal with a stage jumper. During a concert, the stage is the performers space, you dont breach that unless invited; Marduk acted how he saw fit, little man should have been ready for it.

    • BigJordowski

      or Mortuus or whatever the fuck his name is…

  • bobovdeath

    is there a link to the tool video? i didnt see it when i looked on you tube

  • Snafu

    I just don’t understand some of the comments here…why the unreasonable hatred for black metal? Did it kill your fathers and rape your mothers or something? ‘Cause that’s what some of you are acting like. I don’t like thrash, but you don’t see me going “I have nothing but hatred for the bands that play it”…

    That said, that was a really fucking douche move by Mortuus. I’ve never liked Marduk, and their general attitudes towards fans in general has irked me for quite some time. Sure, I’d be annoyed as hell if someone jumped on stage in a drunken stupor and tried to hug me (and without a shirt, no less), but I still wouldn’t risk breaking the guy’s back over a monitor. Where the hell was security in all this?

    • DidgeryDo

      That’s like asking why people hate Lady GaGa or N*Sync. Because everything about them is
      reprehensible from their attitudes to image to music…..everything. Black Metal is complete fucking
      shit.

  • meat mincing machine

    I thought it was funny as hell when he flipped the shirtless douche, but aside from that, yesterday was the 5th anniversary of the tragic night some asshole got up on stage and shot a metal legend to death. It’s great when bands are cool with people stagediving or whatever but if Mortuus doesn’t want some random coming and grabbing him on stage, I’m not really gonna blame him for throwing him out of there. Flipping him spinefirst into the monitor just serves to really drive his point home, haha.

  • http://flamingtusk.com Chris Krovatin

    a) Hey, at least it’s cool to see a black metal guy not be a huge worthless pussy.

    b) Dimebag Darrell. That;’s all I’m saying.

    c) From my roommate: “We don’t know wha happened to [Mortuus] as a kid! Maybe he felt someone behind him and flashed back to his filthy Swedish uncle molesting him, and it just sent him over the edge.”

  • reznik

    That was funny

  • amy

    I don’t really think Mortuus looks like the ‘hugging’ type to begin with…. lapse in judgement on BOTH parts. don’t get on stage and try and hug someone who wears corpse paint and don’t kick your fans’ asses.

  • DruM

    Again to all this Dimebag shit. Mortuus wasn’t surprised or anything. If it was something like a dude coming up behind him and Mortuus just acted quickly and flipped the guy, it would be different. If he checked to make sure the dude was alright it would be different. Instead, Mortuus noticed him, recognized that the was on stage, locked the fuckers arm and flipped him. The real kicker though is that Mortuus doesn’t check on the dude afterwards. That’s a fucking dick move, regardless of appearance. Plus, if Black Metallers are all concerned with appearance, which many of you are assuming, wouldn’t that make them just as bad as those fake pieces of shit on the AT40?
    Still a good band though, haha.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Vanderwerf/100000304476552 Chris Vanderwerf

    When you consider 1) Metal tends to have some of the most violent fans in the industry 2) Black Metal in particular hasn’t exactly been known to have a ‘warm, fuzzy feeling’ about it 3) Human nature dictates that people are unpredictable – consider that one of the greatest guitarists in the history of guitar was shot and killed ON STAGE – I can’t say I blame Mortuus for acting the way he did. Consider the guy lucky for going home with a sore back, if it was any other mainstream celebrity he was sneaking up on like that he’d more than likely be in the local jail.

  • Ian

    I think the trend of jumping on stage with your favorite musician really got prevalent with hardcore morons, with their backpacks, jumping on stage so they could suck off their straight-edge icon. It’s not cool. Somebody posted concerns about never knowing whether this person has a weapon or what not. That’s all valid. There are some limits that have to placed on people. No better group of people than drunk, out of control teenagers to place limits upon. And you fucking flip them and choke them out. The message was delivered; No other scumbags on stage!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Heffner/100000289780879 Michael Heffner

    Just another example of a guy on a platform only having power when he’s on the platform and letting it go straight to his empty head. if that crowd saw him do this to a guy on the street they would tear his tough guy mentality apart really, really quickly.

    • DemonicLemming

      No, the real world crowd would watch, take pictures, then post on twitter or Facebook about it.

      • Some Random Dude

        fo reezy

  • Carbonthief

    It looks staged to me.

  • Stabitha

    I don’t think that when someone jumps onstage and tries to grab you, you should wait to find out if it’s for a hug or something more sinister, and wait to see if security is paying attention. Yeah, getting all Karate Kid might be a little harsh, but grabbing someone in a nonconsensual way is the definition of assault, and one has the legal right to defend oneself when being assaulted…

    • wtfhax

      If you wait, you could be dead.

      • Stabitha

        Kind of unsettling considering what anniversary was yesterday.

  • noobpotato

    LMAO as harsh as it is i think its funny as fuck

  • rein

    Interesting, on this site there are always tons of guys complaining that Black Metal is just about the image, all the artists playing it are douchebags and people listening to it are posers.
    now that you see some of the extremism in action as you would expect from a band that was part of the first “real” wave of Black metal, it’s too much for people to handle.

    What do you expect, that Mortuus, of all people, would hug a shirtless hardcore guy and continue with Christraping Black Metal?

    • Biff Tannen

      Marduk was certainly not a first wave black metal band. They are part of the second wave,guy.
      The first wave was bands like: Bathory,Sodom,Celtic Frost,Mercyful Fate,Venom etc etc

      • Rein

        of those parties i’d personnally say that only bathory made music close to what you would
        categorize as BM…i tried to make the separate with “real” since i’d call those bands part of the pre-black metal movement.

        • Biff Tannen

          No way man, all the stuff from the early/mid 90′s is second wave.

  • BTK666

    Not cool, right on the corner of the stage monitor, that indeed would smart.

  • BTK666

    I wanna a triple threat match with this dude, Danzig and the Northside Kings.

  • Jake

    I don’t know why people are making such a fuss over this. Dudes get all puffed up and act like idiots (don’t tell me you haven’t). Its called testosterone. Was the action justified? Who knows. Next topic.

  • cosk!

    This band sucks, Morteus is a dick, The dude that ran up on stage is a retard. end of story.

  • MetalBeard

    I was actually at this particular show and there’s a huge factor in the incident that the video doesn’t show. The sound at the DNA Lounge started failing the second Marduk hit the stage. When they started playing the first song, the guitar was practically inaudible. After this was fixed the guitar began cutting out every few seconds while the microphone had horrible feedback that echoed throughout the venue whenever Mortuus would stop singing. To top it all off their monitors had all cut out and it seemed like no one working at the club cared enough to try and fix any of it. At the beginning of the video you can see Mortuus right in front of the drum kit, partially behind the guitar amp. What he was doing here was yelling at one of the techs and trying to get somebody to help them with the monitors and the mic. Then around the 0:57 mark you can see him angrily kick the mic stand away from him. Right after this is when the shirtless guy runs onstage.

    Now I completely support Mortuus defending himself onstage anyway but even so, he had made it extremely clear to everybody at this point that he was completely pissed off at the venue and nobody in their right mind would have been idiotic enough to try to come up on stage and hug him. Granted the guy was probably drunk but still, Mortuus had made it clear that he was not happy and was already kicking equipment around so unfortunately this guy walked into the wrong place at the worst time possible.

    • metalguy

      bet they hurried the fuck up with fixing the sound after this

      • MetalBeard

        They eventually fixed the feedback and the house sound but they never fixed the monitors. Pretty much all the songs they played near the end were introduced with Mortuus going “Fuck you DNA Lounge” or something to the same effect.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Winnett/504952291 Daniel Winnett

    thing is people make a big deal about this because it was caught on film but ive seen interviews with karl from nile who says he’s been in similar situations with shitty security and punched people for getting on his stage, i know glen benton used to fuck up anyone who came on his stage in the old days
    climbing up onto the stage without being invited to do so is disrespectful and if you do decide you still want to give it a go then you’re not allowed to bitch about the consequences

    • MetalBeard

      I think my favorite part about this is that after the flip you see the security guy stumbling his way up to the stage only and looking perplexed when he realizes Mortuus already did his job for him.

  • Grymmbear

    *FAN-FLIP*

    • gibberish

      winner

  • rachel

    It appears to me that Mortuus does not own one of those WWJD bracelets that you make in Sunday school at age 5 lol. The inverted cross speaks for itself. i would like to think that most people in black metal bands are decent human beings, but alot of them have a history that proceeds them too much for me to ignore.

  • Facebook User

    Mortuus was right. Nobody wants to be hugged by a random shirtless guy when the’yre performing. I’d do the same thing.

    And stage divers are selfish by nature. They somehow think that because they bought a ticket it’s also their show when it clearly isn’t. If they want to participate, they should cheer the band on and keep it in the pit.

  • Kye

    How exactly is this different than when Maynard flipped and choked some fan?

    Cause it was Maynard?

  • CF

    They’re evil and satanic, if they can’t flip people for pissing them off then I don’t know what metal is anymore.

  • RandyJames

    This video is more reason why Mortuus is the man! That douchebag deserved it, big time. He couldn’t hold his liquor well, strike one. He was shirtless, Strike two. He snuck his way onto the stage during Marduk’s performance and tried to hug Mortuus, strike three, and he’s fucking out. This is black metal, people, not a fucking Terror show. Kudos to Mortuus/Marduk for keeping extreme metal extreme.

  • Malacoda

    Now I wish I had gone to this.

  • cornblood

    I agree with how Mortuus dealt with the situation. Don’t creep up behind somebody you don’t know and not expect to have your fucking skull cracked.

  • yourgodsucksballs

    Maybe I should rethink my plan to get really drunk and masturbate on The Faceless’ lead singer
    during their performance of Planetary Duality on Sunday night at the same venue. He might judo-chop
    me in the neck and shit on my face. But then again, maybe not….

  • zac

    i think this is fucking bullshit, music is to have fun not hurt people. almost killed one of his fans, why would he do that. without fans how can you play shows. why would you fucking hurt your own fan. that dude is a piece of shit. i hope someone beats the shit out of him.

    • Masonic Wehrmacht

      Black metal is not meant to be fun.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        Well in that sense it is a wild sucess. Pretty much only in that regard though.

  • Facebook User

    I think it’s acceptable, guy comes up out of no where behind him and starts grindin on him, why not flip his ass over?

  • Couch

    Metal. As. Fuck

    • http://hue-music.com Classy Metal

      Agreed sir, well played Mortuus you are officially cooler than Legion. BLACK FUCKING METAL!!!!

  • Facebook User

    It was pretty cold blooded, but I don’t think I’d approach someone in corpsepaint if I wanted a hug.

    • Grymmbear

      Someone needs to Photoshop a “FREE HUGS” sign to that guy, with Sick Puppies’ “All The Same” playing in the background, until Mortuus flips him, and then you can cue a needle scratching across a record.

  • syclonus

    its probably a reflex. hear a bell, get food. see a random dude hugging you, judo flip him. what? im the only one who does that?

  • AATHD

    HAHAHAHA!

    This made my day! How would you like it if you were at work and some drunk shirtless guy grabbed you?? It’s good that Mortuus doesn’t play an instrument or it would be broken.

  • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

    It should be every metal frontman’s job to make sure at the very least one of his fans doesn’t survive each show. Preferably take out the idiots by the hundreds, Dethklok-style.

    • rachel

      I am surprised that Mortuus and most kvlt/ t00/whatever-you-call-them groups don’t say “You fans give us something more than record sales, you give us something to hate,” at the beginning of every show.

      • DidgeryDo

        They are the ones in the metal industry that most closely resemble the parodies on
        Metalocalypse only they are not joking. They are just douchenozzles.

  • Shaman

    Yeah that’s pretty metal, and I can’t picture that fan going home for a sulk either

  • The Overmatt

    Reasons this is legitimate:

    The aforementioned Dimebag incident. You can never be too sure what’s gonna happen when someone just randomly gets onstage.

    Preserving the show. I remember one time I saw The Red Chord and during one song some dude that was drunk as fuck ran onstage, ripped the mic out of Guy’s hands and just yelled into it. I give the guy kudos for having the balls to do that, but it kinda kills the song a little bit.

    Shirtless drunk dudes are annoying enough in the crowd, I’m sure it’s doubly so when you’re the one performing. Plus the guy shouldn’t have been able to get up there in the first place.

    The toss. That was a good fucking toss.

    Reasons this was too much:

    The action alone was a bit of an overreaction (if anything, throwing him onto the crowd might have been a better idea), but the fact that it was right onto the monitor means he could’ve been seriously hurt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

    OK first off to people who are defending this completely shitty act by one “dark” tranny who can’t play music…only Black Metal…

    You’d be the ones arguing it’s OK a dude got shot crossing the street because “Well he was not supposed
    to be in the street.” Hey dumbfucks! Nobody is questioning whether or not he was supposed to be there but if a just punishment for this was to have his fucking back broken. This isn’t a Dethklok concert or an
    over the top cartoon satirzing metal. This is real fucking life and that kid could have easily had his spine broken.

    For the guys who keep bringing this “Mortuus” douche’s ( WTF is this anyways. Are Frodo and Same bringing him a ring?) personal safety into it are morons too. This has nothing to do with Dimebag. The dude walks right past all the band members and even the bouncer was hesitant to get into it. They all knew what
    was up. Someone needs to get on stage and Dimebag this std.
    a ring?)

    • SourDeez

      Except your logic is flawed. People are supposed to be in the street. People are absolutely not supposed to be onstage when a band is performing. Plus, laying someone out is quite different than shooting them. And this situation has everything to do with Dimebag. Imagine, you’re onstage, and every night you know full well that someone has been murdered by someone he thought was a stagediver. I can’t imagine your reaction would be a positive one when some stranger runs up to you and tries to touch you, having bypassed a lot of security to do so. That kid did one of the most retarded things a person can do at a show, and I’m sorry but if you’re that oblivious and stupid you deserve to have your ass kicked from time to time.

      • DidgeryDo

        No my logic is fine because I meant in the case of jaywalking but I didn’t think this would
        be picked apart to the point where it would be necessary to specify that. The analogy
        holds true because on one hand you have a gross overreaction to something that was
        only minimally harmful and on the other you have people justifying said reaction on the
        basis of “He was not supposed to be there.”

        Point is though, I think anyone who thought Mortuus believed he was in danger after
        watching that video should watch it again. First off anyone knows if he was going
        to get shot it would have allready been done before the guy had his arm around Mortuus
        and started doing shoutouts to his buddies in the crowd. This guys intentions had to be
        obvious. Mortuus even played along for a second. If he was really about to be murdered
        we all know it would have not gone down like that. Trust me they knew what was up.

        Let’s face it. He was not scared at all. He was mad at the venue for all the malfunctions like
        when he kicked the microphone stand early in the video and took it out on some poor
        stupid drunk kid.

        • SourDeez

          I don’t think he thought he was about to be murdered, I just think that if someone accosts you in a wildly inappropriate way then that gives you every right to cause them physical harm.

          • Biff Tannen

            Don’t pay him anymind Sourdeez. I really thik people dont get Black
            METAL or the sorrow or the anger or wierd feelings you get when
            you think about gay people. ARRRGHHHH!!!!!

          • Biff Tannen

            I meant wierd feelings you get when you want to kill gay people.

            whatevas. I smash the skulls of gay and straight people alike. Life
            is a puzzle with missing pieces like Yuranamos said before Varg
            killed him and the truth is Varg only did it because the other ude
            was a gay guy. Varg is so awesome and nobody understands
            his genious. He has strrong beliefs and really explifies what is
            so awesome and ball twisting as Black Metal like the feeeling when
            you put on ur first corpsepaint, or alienation or new Black Metal Albums
            which is allways good cause you wanna play em loud and let a
            ll those cheerleraders and football players and GAY PEOPLE can
            hear and feel dread. Didgery Do you like dicks!

          • Lybrium

            No, it does not. Not to mention, that was NOT “wildly inappropriate”. Inappropriate, lets not exaggerate.

            Biff, shut the fuck up about gay people, this has nothing to do with being gay, or gay people, or wanting to kill gay people, your comments, to quote SourDeez, are “wildly inappropriate”. We all get that you are a radical homophobic, so shut up about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Troy-Rickard/1516566408 Troy Rickard

    I fail to see how this being a black metal band has anything to do with it.
    As for the statement about that being more acceptable at hardcore shows….What the fuck? The hxc scene is WAY more concerned about shit like image and especially “respect.”

    The only time it’s ever acceptable to be on stage is at the band’s invitation. I’m surprised other fans in the crowd didn’t fuck this random guy up more. Pretty much every show I’ve ever been to there’s a wall of security guards between the barrier and the stage to prevent stupid cunts from doing this and whenever one has managed to slip through……He gets taken down pretty hard and fast.

  • http://uponwingsofblack.blogspot.com/ \m/Eluveitie\m/

    The fact that this even remotely passes for controversy just goes to show how watered-down black metal has become.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

      A watered down diahretic turd vs. a hard solid one. Either way it’s a piece of shit.

      • Lybrium

        true that. You talk sense Colin, rare occurrence in the comment section here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Guzmn/570745539 Daniel Guzmán

    Whatever, he could have handled it way better but you can’t blame him, I still love Wormwood, Rom 2:15, Plague Angel and Maranatha. Oh and if my memory serves, you guys approved the tackle Maynard did to a fan in a similar situation as it has been mentioned here, so clear this up for me, when is it cool to take down a fan?

    • DidgeryDo

      Maynard humilated that guy. He didn’t at any point look like he might have a spinal injury. Also don’t
      compare “Mortuus” to Maynard.

  • John The Drummer

    Mortuus was obviously trying to throw him back in the crowd… not break his back on the monitor, but either way it was quite uncalled for.

    At the Seattle show someone jumped on stage and Mortuus quickly looked at the stage guy with a worried look on his face, I’m guessing he got in trouble by management for this action.

  • dave666

    He wouldnt have done it if the guy was bigger than him I bet. Cowardly move at best.

  • Deathcrux

    Definitely a dick move, even though any fan of Marduk should realize that they’re perhaps not the kind of guys that you’d approach and get all metal brother-ish wth onstage.

    Mortuus have said in many interviews how he dislikes the stereotypical drunk metalhead and considers them subhuman, so this is hardly surprising. On plain ground, the throw wouldn’t have been that harmful, but with the monitor being where it was, things could have ended up really, really bad.

    Imagine if the guy would have sustained a serious injury, becoming paralyzed or something – visa problems would be the least of Mortuus’ problems then.

  • Facebook User

    When I was like about fifteen or sixteen, I went to see Lamb of God, Red Chord, Nora, and God Forbid or BTBAM at The Knitting Factory NYC.
    During LOG, I was so fucking pumped, it as my second time seeing them and all my buddies and I were there. At some point during the set, they broke out into a song i don’t remember and I jumped on and went crazy! I jumped over to Chris Adler, ran back to Randy Blyth, I was jumping all over the place! As I finally went for the stage dive, Randy simultaneously attempted to or managed to grab me from the back of my hoodie and push me. My dick of a friend said it was really obvious. I couldn’t tell…..but then I saw an actual photograph and it was true. Still, it was fun as fuck and I don’t regret it. I was though, a little embarrassed at the time.

    In the same light, at around that age when I was really into Bleeding Though and I went to see them at that same venue. On that very same same stage I clearly remember going nuts as they broke Savior Saint Salvation, jumped on stage and put my arm around Brandon Schiapetti, he put his arm around my shoulder and we chanted that clean vocal part. It was awesome. I used to have a picture of that too, but lost it.That whole show was sweeeet, and it the only reason i cant say anything bad about BT, despite me outgrowing them.

    Earlier that night when they played Rise (also pre This is Love…) the crowd goes nuts, im at the from screaming along, I look to my left, and who do i see screaming along with me?!
    Davey Havock.

    • Biff Tannen

      Wow, you have incredibly bad taste in music, and you sound like exactly the kind of fan that I punch in the back of the skull when they are being a moron.

      • DidgeryDo

        Dude Black Metal is an STD wart in the asshole of Big Gay Al from Southpark. By liking any
        form of Black Metal you hereby revoke all rights to having opinions on anybody elses music.
        Go back to you’re dark corner, put on some more makeup and kill yourself.

        • Biff Tannen

          Who said I’m a black metal fan? I simply said that this 13 year old has HORRIBLE taste in music

  • SolaceInNothing

    Putting some more thought into this I realize that Marduk has everyone by the balls . . .

    You see fact of the matter is, Mortuus doesn’t give a god damn what anybody thinks about him, so regardless of how many people trash him, he’ll do it again if he has to. AND this will not deter the Marduk fans, I know cause I am one and I rocked out to Wormwood on my way to work today.

    To be honest the only reason why I would not condone Mortuus pulling that again is out of concern for him more then the guy he’s flipping. I wouldn’t want Mortuus to get into legal trouble and be banned from coming to the US again, I have not had the pleasure of seeing them live yet.

    • DidgeryDo

      Actually if you read up above this happened again recently and the guy who was commenting
      was at the concert. He said it did happen again and Mortuus kept his distance. See if he had
      broken that kids back he would have been completely liable and probably would have lost every
      penny and that band would be done. So you are wrong in that Mortuus doesnt care what people think
      and also wrong because he probably won’t do it again if he has a braincell.

  • SourDeez

    1. There is never anything “uncool” about someone getting their ass kicked (unless it’s your mother, grandma, girlfriend, wife etc). It is an inevitably awesome occurence.

    2. This kid completely deserved it. Just because you like the band, that does not mean you should accost the band members while they’re performing.

    3. Just to re-iterate, going onstage during a performance is NEVER acceptable, unless you are invited. After Dimebag Darrell got his brains blown out by a man who everyone thought was just a stagediver, the sight of uninvited strangers onstage puts musicians on edge.

    4. If you try to hug someone who plays “Christ-raping black metal”, after intruding upon their performance, what the fuck do you expect is going to happen to you? Are you gonna tell him what you want for Christmas this year? No. He’s going to kick your ass. Kid totally deserved it.

    • DidgeryDo

      This is why I could never take Black Metal seriously. It takes itself SOOO damn serious nobody else has
      to bother. Well that and it sounds completely awful. I really fucking hate any entertainer with
      a grandoise sense of self-importance. That goes for Hollywood with their crackpot elite
      religions and bullshit views they smugly push on people to the mainstream music industry with “artists” like
      Lady GaGa who are trying to go down in history as some Messiah or Kanye who thought he was
      “Voice of a Generation”. In this entertainment obsessed world these people could seem godly to the
      simple-minded but to me they are nothing but performers.

      Black Metal is the absolute worst of all these offenders. This is because in the case of the
      afformentioned Hollywood and music members of douchedom, they at least have something
      to be smug about. They are beautiful, have some acting talent, maybe they are charismatic
      and inteligent or have an amazing voice. Point is Black Metal has the most grand sense of
      self-importance of anyone and has the very least to be proud about.

      It’s unintentionally hilarious and other then that has no redeeming qualities at all. The vibe I get
      from BM is JP from Grandmas Boy. It’s so cheesy and without a shred of self-awareness
      or humor. All I can do is laugh right at it. Don’t get me started on the trademark low fi production
      or the vocals. Black Metal is where gay guys go to stay in the closet. They can’t be their efeminate
      flowery selves so they become a “demon” instead like Toki did on Metalocalypse. Only a closet
      gay dude would think this extreme opposite made any sense at all. They feel totally deprived of all the
      dick they could be eating and makeup they could be wearing and Black Metal solves this for them
      because the music literally sounds like a dick in your ears and they also get to wear Cover
      Girl’s new line of “Corpsepaint.” Corpsepaint that’s a great one too. It’s like they are trying to
      make their Loreal sound badass. Black Metal is a fucking joke. Fuck Mortuus whether he was
      right or not. Either way his shit sucks and so does his entire genre. Black Metal is the absolute
      worst of all the subgenres of metal and that is saying a LOT.

      • Canvas Of Flesh

        You could have just typed “I don’t like black metal”. I think that’s about the only point you were trying to make, but you took so long to do it.

        • Rein

          1

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

          That’s just the “what”. What took so long was the “why” and with something
          as shitty as Black Metal it can take a long time to explain EVERYTHING I hate
          about it and, actually, that’s the abridged version. That’s OK I don’t expect a
          mongoloid Black Metal fan to understand the difference.

          • Biff Tannen

            Wow. All this coming from an Eminem fan, of all people.

          • DidgeryDo

            I don’t know where that comes from. Still while I’m not the biggest
            fan of Eminem or hip-hop I have to admit even the anal wart
            on Eminem’s musical career would be better then a Black
            Metal magnum opus. You have such shitty taste in music if you
            like it. Black Metal is so freaking awful it’s not even subjective
            or opinion based anymore. It is the only known music
            to suck factually.

          • SourDeez

            You have no idea what black metal even is. Your assumptions about the musicians are completely unfounded. Were you raped by a black metal musician when you were a child?

          • Biff Tannen

            There is PLENTY of garbage black metal out there, plenty. There is also lots of GREAT stuff out there. You apperently haven’t looked deep enough into the genre to make a qualified opinion about it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            Sour actually in a way I was. When I tried to listen to any black metal
            from the old stuff like Mercyful Fate, Mayhem, Burzum OR the
            new stuff like Nazimystium each and every one of those
            musicians raped me…..in the ears. I can never go back lol.

  • Some Random Dude

    People being harmed at a metal concert is truly unfathomable. Pussies.

  • http://www.myspace.com/whiskeyrambleproject x101whiskey_ramble101x

    Total dick move but in this kats defense, YOU JUST DON’T MESS WITH DUDE’S ON STAGE WHEN THEY’RE IN SUPER METAL MODE! I mean, if MAYNARD were that big and intense he would JUI-JITSU the shit outta that guys neck, his back would’ve exploded dude’s vertebrae on the speaker moniter resulting in the end of TOOL. At any rate, it’s still a dick move

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

      Dude if you look up pictures of this dude online he really is a skinny rediculus looking fuck. He probably
      beefed up over time and I guess I give him some credit for that but c’mon what a fucking tool. The
      guy he flipped looked like about 130 lbs and that shit is all in the hips anyway. Plus the
      douchenozzle fell down at the end of the throw which is fucking weak.

      • Biff Tannen

        You like dicks, don’t you ??

        • DidgeryDo

          No I’m not a Black Metal fan. See my above posts.

        • DidgeryDo

          This is you:

          “I am JP. I like robots. I am a robot. I have a robot vagina. Beep Bup Boop BEEEEP”

          • Biff Tannen

            You don’t need a vagina to like dicks. Personally I just pretend to have
            one while I wear makeup and beat off to my favorite Black Metal
            stars.

          • Biff Tannen

            I mean YOU beat off to gay stuff cause yer gay! Does anyone
            know how to delete commments?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            Uh OK….

            Good comeback…

          • gibberish

            I’m gonna act like I know what just happened.

          • DidgeryDo

            I really can’t say but it looks like he typed that into the wrong window
            or something. Pretty hilarious actually! This pretty much proves my
            point about Black Metal fans.

          • Biff Tannen

            These posts were made by an imposter Biff Tannen.

  • josh

    wow. What an asshole

    • Biff Tannen

      Where? I love to eat those!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Troy-Rickard/1516566408 Troy Rickard

    “You have such shitty taste in music if you
    like it.”

    . . .

    Brilliant lines like that should’ve ended up on the MS shirts.

    “You’re a fucking retard if you don’t like ‘so and so’” or the counterpart “You’re a fucking retard if you DO like ‘so and so.’” But in the inverse colour!

    Then you can not only talk like an arrogant, ignorant fuck, but you can display with pride how you’ve set your species back 100 years.

    • DidgeryDo

      Dude my opinion or the way it comes out is not my arrogance but a reflection of how completely
      irredeemably, spectacularly awful the genre of Black Metal is in concept, execution and in it’s lyric
      writing. Everything about it makes me cringe and not the kind of cringing when you see something
      terrifiying. Basically it’s the cringing that comes from seeing Lady GaGa’s manparts come out of her
      dress in that youtube video and makes you lose you’re lunch. It makes you shake you’re head
      and wonder what completely ignorant backwards bullshit the world will produce next.

      I understand objectivity and the purely subjective nature of music and despite that, I can say
      with one hundred percent certainty, Black Metal is the WORST sub-genre of metal and this is a
      FACT not an opinion. Basically there are those who see this fact and those who hate life
      so much they want to embrace feces. I mean hell look at Biff Tannen. This guy named himself
      after a character who is covered in shit in each Back to the Future movie. This is because he loves
      shit. I sleeps in it, doesn’t wipe it, obviously listens to it and most likely enjoys eating it too!

      • Biff Tannen

        “I mean hell look at Biff Tannen. This guy named himself
        after a character who is covered in shit in each Back to the Future movie”

        That was a pretty good one, I’ll give you that. Although, you may want to re-read the sentence you typed after it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

          I just did and it made me laugh again :)

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            The typo just made for extra lulz.

  • pfk505

    Holy fuck, DidgeryDo and Connor O’Shitball, WE GET IT, YOU HATE BLACK METAL. Now kindly fuck off. We understood it the first 500 times you posted it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

      But I don’t think you REEEALLLY get it yet. I have to post it at least a few more times :)

  • Justin

    shit, did the kid get tossed onto a monitor? that’s brutal.

  • Cannibal Chris Of imminent death!

    mortus is a fuckin douche for doing this.he wants to be kult then attack a stupid fuck who protests your music but this kid paid to see you you shithead.by the way,marduk fucking sucks

  • tyler09

    looks staged. Mortuus never even looks away from the crowd.

  • Fausto

    Black Fucking Metal.

    Danger in music is fun.

  • Joleen

    Don’t assume you know what was going on that night just because you randomly found some 6 minute YouTube video that is taken completely out of context.

  • Facebook User

    that was a douchebag move

  • Lybrium

    I think it would have been funny instead of hostile if marduk actually tossed him onto the crowd, but he was too weak, and ended up twisting the kids back and dropping him on the monitor’s…then tried to look tough afterwards…yeah it could have been funny.

    Agreed that when Maynard did a similar, but much less macho version of this, it was much better.

    • Lybrium

      *mortus, w/e.

  • chxd

    most of the people commenting on this don’t listen to black metal, don’t understand where it’s coming from, and are just making asses of themselves “arguing” their point. most of you would do better to just stop blogging/commenting/breathing.

    i seriously doubt Mortuus did this for his “cred” or any of the other nonsense being said here.

  • prk

    i have no problem with stage potatoes getting the boot, but that was just overly rough and awkward, especially considering the band here should be very grateful to even be playing that show. marduk doesn’t exactly have a good rep in north america for actually showing up to their shows or tours.

    so in effect, fuck you mortuus. and your bullshit band. black metal used to be awesome, now it’s just something for the former br00tal kids to get into.

  • Achmetha

    Really? Marduk are a SATANIC and negative band. This surprises you? Should Black Metal be about getting along and always being tolerant? Hah. Even besides that, this is METAL we are discussing. Violence just comes with the music.

    Metalsucks, you are incorrect. Not only was it hilarious, but well deserved.

    Also, well said chxd.

  • Mr. B

    I think this is awesome. I’ve been to shows where the fans try to make the show focus on them and it’s fucking irritating. And for anyone who’s bitching that “the fans paid money to see them!” all I have to say is that I’ve been to plenty of shows where I only care about one band on the bill, maybe this fan didn’t even give a fuck about Marduk and only wanted to see Nachtmystium or something like that you know? Maybe he thought it would be funny and so ‘random’ if he got on stage and tried to rock out for his equally drunken buddies. I can’t say for sure what the fan’s motivations were, but this is super funny to me, I love seeing this guy get knocked the fuck out. Anyone who’s not in the band shouldn’t get on stage unless invited (or you’re stage diving).

  • http://folkblackdeath.tumblr.com jc

    kid’s fault.

  • Blackfan

    Stage diving is a normal thing during extreme metal concerts, but is should be done in a way not interfering with band’s playing. This guy hug the vocalist so deserved to be thrown off stage. Maybe Mortuus’s reaction was a little excessive.