THE AUSTERITY PROGRAM’S JUSTIN FOLEY ON WHY SENATOR JOE LIEBERMAN IS THE FUTURE OF METAL

Tuesday, December 22nd, 2009 at 1:27pm by

megamayhem

I saw Until the Light Takes Us last week and was mildly surprised (again) at some of the unusual belief systems swirling around that scene. When you think about it, there’s nothing intrinsic to heavy or extreme music that must link it to scary, misanthropic stuff. Still, people all around the world who get into this music want to put their emotions into some additional context. When the music feels violent or painful, maybe it’s just natural to want to surround it in images and language that also feel violent and painful.

But here we are in 2010. Churches have been burned, dead religions exhumed, forearms branded and medical pathology textbooks scoured. If you and your bandmates are skipping homeroom to do this meth-ed out hatecore thing you’ve been G-chatting about and you really want to blow minds, what’s left? You think anyone gets unnerved at the sight of a pentagram? (Answer: no.) Do you really think that wearing black nail polish is making some statement about anything other that your ability to source black nail polish? (Answer: same answer as before – no.) I am telling you that it’s all been done, it’s not scary and it’s about time that folks did a damn sight better.

And better is what I’ve got: To take your band’s nightmare vision of moral obliteration farther than it’s ever been taken, there is only one ideology left to use.

I’m talking, of course, about Joe Lieberman.

Joe Lieberman is an undead disease-terror that someone needs to start writing records about right now. Fonts must be upended, guttural utterances (gutterances? *ding!*) growled, drum heads lacerated and speaker cones set a-vibrating. Metal can get right back in the drivers seat of freaking the world the hell out by doing this Joe Lieberman thing P-R-O-N-T-O.

I don’t share his politics (if there are any real politics in there, somewhere) but I think that’s separate issue. Lieberman is an anti-life-force walking-black-hole on the face of the Earth because he exists only to serve the interest of his one dark master – Joe Lieberman. Examples? Oh, if it’s examples you want then I’ve got plenty.

In 2000, a whole bunch of people spent a whole bunch of time and whole big bunch of money trying to get him to be the second most powerful person in their clan. Eight short years later, he’s in front of the opposite clan, at their big shindig, saying that all those other folks are fools.

In 1995, Joe Lieberman made a big deal against the filibuster in the Senate, saying that it could be the end of the world. Guess what he was threatening to do a few weeks back? (Maybe he did this to try to end the world.)

My favorite was about ten days ago when he killed the Medicare buy-in option by making its death a condition of his support for a Senate bill. A Medicare buy-in option. You know, exactly the type of thing he was saying he was for in September.

Okay, okay. A lying, hypocritical politician is not a rare item. But what makes Lieberman a thing of unsurpassed bleak horror is that he is most active only when he can do the most harm. It’s like he somehow made it so that the Senate would become incredibly partisan and then split so that his vote would always be crucial. Only in such a fragile time can he gleefully launch plague after plague of nutmeg-scented pestilence on the Earth’s living creatures. I honestly think that he threw the Dem vote in CT JUST so that he could go back to DC with no claim upon him.

(Useful though he may be to the Republicans, don’t imagine for a moment they think he’s on their side. You think Mitch McConnell is calling up Joe before Sunday supper to say “Why don’t you come have dinner at my house and hang out unattended with my plump infant grandkids?” No, he is not. You don’t turn away from a back-stabbing cobra that has miraculously figured out how to wield a rusty barbeque fork dripping with Lassa fever. You smile and say “Nice little snakey,” slowly backing towards the door. These guys know what their eyes behold.)

- Uh oh, here it comes -

“Why you write about politics on the site? I go to site to avoid politics. Maybe I get politics elsewhere. Maybe I don’t think important. Maybe I simply do not have capacity to care about anything other than Metal all day always all the time. Why you try ruin this for me? No politics!”

No. No! That’s the whole point! Once you recognize that this is a US Senator who has no purpose other than his own virulent and malignant growth, all that “Christraping Black Metal” stuff seems downright froofy. Who cares about politics? Not Joe Lieberman. He probably doesn’t even care about snacking on souls or slurping up the still-steaming bone marrow of albino virgins. (Probably.) It’s so, so much worse than that. The kind of worse that you can only begin to hint at with a new, ultra-brutal type of metal that will lay waste to all who listen.

And this is not hypothetical. You – Satanists – you ever seen Satan? Anyone ever watched Odin conduct a newsconference? Gotten a solicitation for campaign contributions from whatever deity racist nationalists love so dearly? Of course not. But Joe Lieberman doesn’t require some leap of faith. He’s right there on “Face the Nation.” A real, terrible dude – eating, breathing and reaping death upon the land even as he brushes his teeth in his pajamas. There can be nothing more scary.

liebershirt

I do not know what shape of musical psychosis all of this will take when it is put on tape. What I do know is that the kids who get their acts together about this will be instantly banned from clubs and have constant DoS attacks launched against their MySpace page. Baptist preachers will interrupt Oral Roberts’s funeral to rail against this band. Sixteen Guatemalan nuns will fast in a mountain chapel and maintain a constant silent vigil against them. There will be a restraining order against the band playing a show within 300 miles of any public watershed supply, etc. They will be feared and hated and FEARED. You want someone to write you a ticket to everlasting notoriety? I’m writing you the damn ticket. Start a metal band that worships Joe Lieberman and empires will crumble in the wake of your vision.

(I hope Joe Lieberman doesn’t read this site because the last thing I want is for him to know someone’s on to him like this. I’ve got a family that I love and I don’t want to lose them.)

- JF

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  • Patrick

    If there is one band who gets this, it its Gaza.

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/46e389eb8b79606050d3d447431ff6ac?s=80 Nate

      The one good thing that’s come out of Utah, so far. We were also responsible for Chelsea Grin. I know, on behalf of this shitty state, I’m sorry.

      While we’re on the subject of Utah, all the metal stuff still gets a reaction here. First time I painted my nails black a mormon told me I was going to hell. I call that a win. The pentagram on my car warrants dirty and scared looks whenever i’m on the road. Whoot! We’re years behind the mainstream!

      • Discipleofthewatch

        It is fun to fuck with Mormons. We used to get one to come to our poker party and drink. The ones that come to your door are pretty easy to mess with.

        • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/46e389eb8b79606050d3d447431ff6ac?s=80 Nate

          I live in Mormon Central, it’s so much fun. I live two blocks from a church, so I just hang out with my friends next to my car, blasting some Behemoth and shit, and I just watch the reactions.

  • ECDEU

    This was actually funny. Good post.

  • Sophus

    HAIL LIEBERMAN!!!

    • SomeKid

      Hail!

  • cougar party

    Basically Liberman has figured out how to get elected no matter who’s popular at the moment. He pretends to champion Republician ideals when he’s losing ground with his conservative consituients and champions Democrat ideals when he needs to get back in with his party.

    Besides, all the flip flopping puts him in the forefront of the news all the time and any camera time for a politician is great, right?

    I am not sure Liberman really believes in anything other than getting another term in office. Then again, he’s not much different than the rest, just knows how to play the game a little better.

    • SHOCKTROOP

      to be fair, he also believes in bombing the living shiite out of anybody with brown skin.

      • Negative One

        Fucking Metal.

  • loganarchy

    So, uh, what was your point?

    • Watt Par

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    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_%28phenomenon%29 DRONE

      Perhaps you need reading lessons friend. his point is that you should start an extreme band based on the life of Joe Lieberman, Liebergrind if you will.

  • Shinaain

    Brutal. I smell fresh blog-meat. Please tell me that wasn’t a one-off piece…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Harrington-Neil-Sauer/677600672 Harrington Neil Sauer

    Cool, you’re in a band nobody cares about? Trying to get press? Fuck you, I’m not huge into the tr00 kvlt black metalz, but i do get their ideals more than I understand that deathcore/metalcore bullshit so fuck off please k thanks

    • Nick

      How is this an appropriate reply to this article? I’m guessing that you either did not read it or that you lack reading comprehension abilities.

    • Patrick

      you are an idiot sir

    • Genial Gentile

      You are a fucking imbecile. Did your mother drink heavily when she was pregnant with you?

      • Negative One

        She did with me. That explains my inability to reply appropriately to posts.
        Also, my left ear looks like a hooker’s vagina.
        Thanks, mom.

  • Sven

    Emperor Palpatine!

  • orbital

    Lieberman flip

  • John

    lol @ liberal panties in a twist

    • John

      To clarify I’m not a conservative either.

    • SHOCKTROOP

      hmmm… for some reason the phrase “liberal panties” turns me on.

      • John

        Ever met a liberal girl that didn’t put out on the first date? me either.

        • Double D

          If I was a big enough douche bag to use the numbering system to convey my agreement, I would be adding tons of points for this quote. Great job, John. Oh, and god bless those easy liberal chicks.

          • Natsquatch

            I’ve known and encountered quite a few chicks like that, but to be fair most of these easy “liberal” girls’ beliefs and knowledge on liberalism (or politics in general) don’t go beyond “save the animals, gay rights please, fuck Bush, go Obama, nag nag nag”, so they aren’t really an accurate representation.

            Not saying I’m a full-blown liberal though, I consider myself reasonable with a few liberal leanings.

        • http://evilsausage.livejournal.com/ Evil

          You say that like it was a bad thing.

  • iolanach

    Another supposedly funny “political” post. How unsurprising.

  • The Great Danton

    Nice post. It’s funny when kids still think Satan and being evil are scary or even original.

    • John

      Or real for that matter.

    • AATHD

      Yeah really. allah was the one who invented A.I.D.S.

  • Geekbeater

    Is the austery program an actual band? are they good? Should I give a shit? What the fuck is he talking about during the 5 minutes I just wasted reading this blog?

    • Geekbeater

      shit Austerity Program. TYPO

    • jackattack

      I like them.

    • DidgeryDo

      Basically He is angry at Lieberman for voting conservative on an issue recently. Being that this is a
      metal site though, he had to establish some pathetic connection between the two to justify
      posting the rant here.

      So the post is comprised of two things really. First he has to set the pretext for posting his
      political opinion in a place where politics should not be. He makes a sad attempt to be funny
      in linking the two but it’s so contrived it’s really just laughable.

      The second is him saying he does not like Joe Liberman because he voted the opposite way he
      wanted him to recently.

      Foley this is all a massive FAIL and so is you’re band.

      • Justin Foley

        Lieberman’s voting record isn’t the issue, at least as it pertains to whether or not I’d vote the same way. He’s pretty middle of the road compared to some other Senator. What makes him unique is that he cannot appeal to any principle other than Joe Lieberman. It’s an incredible thing to say you’re going to kill the most massive piece of legislation in at least two sessions because it does contains something that you were insisting it contain only two and a half months ago. No one else even comes close to that, be they from Utah or Mass. Has nothing to do with whether or not I would have voted the same way.

        • cougar party

          “It’s an incredible thing to say you’re going to kill the most massive piece of legislation in at least two sessions because it does contains something that you were insisting it contain only two and a half months ago.”

          That’s the idiocy (or genius?) of guys like Lieberman. I can respect someone’s difference of opinion on issues, but this guy just puts his finger in the air and see which way the winds blowing at any given moment to make decisions.

      • your idol

        Didgery, you almost sounded intelligent until you typed “you’re band”. So what if Foley leans liberal, go suck Ted Nugent’s cock.

        • your idol

          BTW, good job Foley, funny as shit.

  • SHOCKTROOP

    Metal Bands like Deicide and Mayhem and etc… have been writing songs about Joe Lieberman for decades already. They just usually refer to him by his other names. Lucifer, Satan, Mephistopheles, etc. etc…

    • http://www.metalsucks.net/category/scraping-genius-off-the-wheel/ Gary Suarez

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  • I killed a Dunky

    Rules.. now let me go back to my little island..in the Caribbean if u excuse me XD

  • http://unusualpath.wordpress.com phale

    im trying to figure out if this is anti-semitic. theres a bit about baby-eating, which is a bit suspicious, but the rest just seems like partisan politics. thoughts?

    by the way, anti-semitic metal is gonna get you way more hated than lieberman metal. lots of folks know this, they just arent allowed to tour because of those electronic ankle bracelets.

    • Justin Foley

      Who said anything about eating babies? Wait, I just re-read it. You mean the thing about McConnell’s grandkids? Well, I’m hardly a disinterested party here but I’m going to call that a bit of a stretch for establishing that I hate Jewish people.

      (Do do that, you can actually get a much clearer read from all of my Stormfront posts. I’m user “iamnotpartialtojews” over there.)

      I’m also not sure about the anti-Semetic metal thing. Burzum does sell records, right? I suppose you could go nuts and be super explicit about it but I don’t think you’d be shocking anyone. Most folks would probably just say “oh, look, it’s a bunch of assholes transported from Berlin 1933, yawn”. Maybe you could link up with some crazy reactionary Islamist group and try to get money from the current Iranian government, but those guys would probably have you on the chopping block in two months time for some other transgression that they didn’t like.

      So, I don’t think you’d make many friends being insanely anti-Semetic but that seems to be a well-traveled road. The more I think about it, the more I think I’m right – Lieberman is the darkest thing out there.

      = Justin

      • http://unusualpath.wordpress.com phale

        iwaspartialtojewsonce ;)

  • myke

    ahh fuck all politicians they lie anyway

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

    Axl Axl Axl…..You realize that in a country with such a plethora of issues ranging from domestic, to foreign to environmental how illogical it is to take all possible standings on these and divide them amongst only two groups. You choose one group and then all of there stances on everything? Insanity. The reason I have not dedicated myself to either party is the same reason I have not chosen one singular outlook on life. It’s stupid. It’s lazy too. I take each individual situation and use reason to chart the best course of action or stance.

    So this is essentially what I like about Lieberman. He’s one of the only politicians I know of that operates on the basis of reason as opposed to the polarizing partisanship we allways see in Washington.

    For anyone who did not want to read what Axl wrote I will cut out the filler and summarize for you.

    “Hey this is Axl. I am going to ramble on briefly about how desensitized everyone is to counter-culture behavior now days as a ludicrusly contrived way to set up my anti-Lieberman rant. In summary I don’t like Liberman because he was once left-leaning and like most people with a brain tilted more conservative
    as he became older. As we all know I am a left leaning extremist and by extremist I do mean Glen Beck, Michael Moore, Anne Coulter or MANBEARPIGmonger Al Gore extreme. This is really all I don’t like about Lieberman but I will add that he is evil. Yes I am childish enough to see the world in the simplistic, black and white, unuanced good and evil….this is easy because it affords me the ability to be lazy and dismiss people without thinking and it also makes me feel great about myself since I am a force of GOOD… ahhh.”

    To summarize even further…..Me Axl. Me liberal socialist. Me no like Joe Liberman because he conservative…..ish. That’s it. See Axl this is why we don’t come to you for politcs. If I wanted that I’d go to someone who was somehow qualified….. by the merit of good writing alone at the VERY freaking least!

    I’m not going to an auto mechanic to operate on my heart and I sure as hell don’t come here to listen to your
    sad excuse for inteligent outlook on anything political. You’ve introduced me to so many great albums this year and you should just stick to what you are good at.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

      EDIT: This was written by Justin Foley and not Axl….not that it matters a lot.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        Actually now that I know it’s Justin I think I would take out the “introducing me to great albums”
        part.

    • Justin Foley

      You say that this guy operates on the basis of reason. What’s reasonable about nakedly changing your stance on major issues only when you have the most leverage by doing so? Consistent, sure. The guy is consistently unreliable. But not reasonable.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        You are only speculating about his reasons for changing his mind. People change their
        minds all the time and politicians are surely no exception.

        Growing up I was extreme right wing and for about eight years all the way on the other side
        of the spectrum. Currently I’d problably say I’m some strange amalgamation of both. The
        point of me saying that is throughout the years I constantly sought knowledge and
        assuming someone is reasonable, changing you’re mind is just a natural reaction to
        gaining new information. Don’t just assume malice is the intent.

        Besides I cast more suspicion on those who never change their alignment. Some people
        are so dedicated that in pride they ignore new evidence to the contary of their dogmas.

        Seriously, though, what politicians are actually reliable? Why single out Lieberman when
        there are so many who ARE dedicated to a party and act just as bi-partisan? At least
        with Joe you can EXPECT him to be erratic. I mean Bush was a huge liberal in a few
        instances and Obama is now looking hawkish.

        • Justin Foley

          Until someone makes a magic “you will know their intentions because you can read their soul” machine, the best any of us will be able to do is speculate about what’s going on.

          As you and I are both third parties who do not have synapse-level access to Joe Lieberman’s reptile-hive-mind, I will be lazy and only point to the three examples in the post that there is no principle being served here other than self-aggrandizement. It’s not that he changed his mind. It’s not that he has reconsidered his position. It’s that he displays no interest in any guiding principle. Public action is a vehicle for power. Nakedly. Unabashedly. And most obviously when the moment is most ripe for him to take advantage of it.

          If this health bill really goes through a conference committee (and not just a House rubber stamp), I will bet you $50 we will hear from the junior Senator of Connecticut again. Deal?

          = Justin

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            Good response. I’d say that was a credible assumption, although
            to say he has no guiding light whatsoever is a little hyperbole. I mean
            think about his stance on violent videogames. To me that sounds
            like he is very convicted about that….not that I agree personally.

            Most of all though I still don’t see how this makes him different
            from just about every other politician.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            “As you and I are both third parties who do not have synapse-level access to Joe Lieberman’s reptile-hive-mind,”

            That was pretty hilarious actually lol. Just thought I’d say that.

            You did cite three compelling examples. Two issues with that of course
            that he has probably made thousands of actions in his career which
            would mean your arguement was cherry picking. Also I still don’t
            conclusively see from what you show that those were his sole
            motivations. I still like the guy, sorry.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            Also looking at those three examples. First off I still don’t see any
            evidence in the second two that it was purely a selfish
            motive. With the Republican convention I have to say I liked his
            speech because what he’s saying about partisanship in Washington
            is true. Eight SHORT years later? lol.

  • Ziltoid

    HAHA, this was quite the entertaining read. I like this guy’s writing style.

    • jackattack

      Finally an MS old schooler who understands humor is back. I loved this as well.

  • sacha dunable

    Great point/post. Even scarier would be a Sarah Palin-centric band.

    • http://www.myspace.com/1033metal Jackson

      or a beck/limbaugh band

      • Negative One

        What about a Mr. Beans-based band? That’d be some fucked noise.
        I’d listen to it.
        Maybe even take the pleasure of starting the band.

        • Justin Foley

          Why do you want the instant destruction of all that is living? What is wrong with you?

  • Tonberry

    For the TL;DR crowd:

    -Joe Lieberman is a troll.
    -Justin Foley is trying really hard to be funny.

    • jackattack

      He really is a troll… that’s a great way to describe him.

      And I don’t think he’s trying to be funny. This seems like rather candid and just goofy, imaginative thinking.

  • Alex Mothafuckin` P

    This is a mothafuckin`good article. I never got why Satan was ever seen as mothafuckin`evil in the first place. If you aren`t Christian, he`s really just a mothafuckin` Promethean figure, givin` us some mothafuckin` naledge.

  • Strapping Young Lad

    man, if i wasn’t retarded, I’d write like you. fucking awesoemmeee stufff!

  • Chud

    Would it be possible for Justin to write weekly political/pop culture article? For those of us that don’t care for knee jerk reactions or stoner responses to the rest of the world, this man is a great writer. This guy seems like he may be a normal dude who just likes metal (as opposed to a metal head who has a couple of normal traits) and has a nice style. Between this and his ‘Village Voice’ response I think he needs spot to write when he feels like it.

    Thanks.

    • DidgeryDo

      C’mon this writing is not that great at all. First of all it is completely off-topic for this website and
      his attempt at linking this to metal is so forced.

      First he attempts to set a pretext for posting politics on a metal page. He drones on pointlessly
      about how counter-culture behavior no longer shocks people. Apparently this is all he needs to
      segue into talking about a Senator, whose recent vote he did not like. The link between these two
      things is about as strong as the bond between Lindsey Lohan and her dad but, hey, at least he
      showed the minimal brain activity it requires to realize that you need to at least attempt to put
      this into the context of the site. Even if the attempt, which was meant to be funny, was in fact
      just laughable.

      This article in summation:

      I don’t like Joe Lieberman because he sometimes votes conservative. I am a liberal therefore I
      do not like that. This makes Joe evil which makes him perfect for metal!

      NOTE: the third sentence is just his sad excuse for posting this article here. Yes it is THAT
      sad and unfunny.

      Why so many liberals in metal? Two reasons. The first is they are mostly kids and stoners.
      Reason #2 – Well let’s face it, our best and brightest do not tend to get into metal.

      Justin – You’re band blows. Suck a fucking cock.

      • Nick

        Let me sum up your reasons for not liking this article. I’m conservative and I dislike the fact that Justin makes fun of Lieberman. I also cannot read the article for what it is and see that it’s not really politically biased because i’m blinded by my own bias. Kudos to you good sir.

        • Sam

          +1

          You forgot:

          I am also completely unaware of how to use the following: your/you’re/yours.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

          OK then explain how this article is not politically biased. I might have missed
          the boat completely.

          • http://evilsausage.livejournal.com/ Evil

            You also missed the whole “your/you’re/yours” thing in, what, 4th grade?

    • ECDEU

      +1 He is really good and it will be a change of pace to have a little worldly news on here. Axl, Vince, seriously think about this one.

  • DidgeryDo

    Ha! My post was deleted! I guess some people can’t handle the truth lol.

    • Justin Foley

      At the risk of sounding like I’m being insincere – and I’m not being insincere:

      I count two longer posts up top. One immediately before this one and another one in response to Geekbeater. Was there a third one? If so, please repost it and/or send it to me and I’ll repost it. I certainly didn’t delete it and I don’t think that any of the MS guys did, but there may have been a tech glitch. I didn’t see Colin’s initial post above until just now (which made his two follow up posts not make much sense). Anyway, if there’s something else, you’d like to say, I’d like to make sure people get a chance to read it.

      = Justin

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        Thanks. I don’t know if it’s a glitch. If you type the word soc1al1sm ( correctly) you’re
        post gets flagged for moderation. That’s what happened to the one that was deleted.
        I asked Axl about it via e-mail and he said he was puting it back up and because it had
        been caught in a spam filter.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

        I do give you and Axl both credit for being cool despite my diatribes.

        • Justin Foley

          Fuck being cool, we’re trying to have a conversation here. If that word is somehow seen as taboo for any reason other than – calling something $ocialis7 is lazy criticism and the world’s almost always better off without it – then we should get straight around that right away.

          = Justin

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            Yeah but just wanting to have the conversation is what makes you
            cool believe it or not. In my life the last few times I’ve tried to get
            what I’m thinking across to some of my left friends they tend to get
            frustrated and not want to talk about it at all even though I bring
            up valid points.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kasper-Maigaard/1027001938 Kasper Maigaard

    Won’t be long till we see the first LIEBERCORE bands unfold their lack of political interest upon the readers of the interwebs.
    I lack political interest. Completely. I could totally play Liebercore!
    Or Liebergrind or Extreme Lieber, or whatever.

  • cementisgood

    a lot of reading to get through the comments and everyone has responded already to the big points but , on a bit of a tangent, i wanted to say something about this, that i pulled out of somebody’s response…

    “In summary I don’t like Liberman because he was once left-leaning and like most people with a brain tilted more conservative as he became older”

    the majority of polls conducted over the last decade reveal that most people do not become more conservative as they get older but rather more tolerant of behaviours and standards other than their own. the older you get, the more you see and learn, you come to realize a few things, particularly about yourself and your place in the world. some ideologues never learn anything because they already know all they need to know and those people tend to band together in pretty noisy groups but a lot of people do come to realize they don’t need a night light or fairy tale to get to sleep

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor
      • cementisgood

        yeah, there are lots of polls that refute what i was saying, i was more referring to people who move into their 60′s & 70′s and beyond. i think after most people get into their twenties they start start moving away from reckless behaviours and settle into more routines and their views become more conservative almost out of necessity to deal with their responsibilities but for those who survive “adulthood” they often do realize how pointless being a tight ass is. i should probably mention i’m from canada as well and we tend to be more relaxed about some of the issues that make people get all worked up in the states

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

          Well in Canada it could be different but here I’d say with certainty that
          people in their 60′s and 70′s are even more likely to be conservative since
          they grew up in the old school.

          • cementisgood

            talk to some people in that age group, you would be surprised by what they know and think. obviously, i don’t mean every single person and i don’t mean about window dressing stuff like taste in clothes or music, but how they view the world around them. the old school they grew up in is exactly like the one we’re in now, don’t kid yourself about that, politicians are no more or less self serving than they’ve ever been, somebody still wants to sell you junk you don’t need for too much money, the media still pushes the agenda of the advertisers, none of this is new. a lot of older people reach a point where they realize that what they’ve been told and what they’ve experienced just don’t match. no matter who tells you or how often they say the sky is green, if every time you go outside and see it yourself, eventually, unless you’re a complete retard, you’re gonna say to yourself “fuck that, the sky is blue”

          • cementisgood

            also, good call on the video games, i totally agree with you there

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

            I dont know what to say man. I formed that opinion from talking to them.
            In my experience they’ve been overwhelmingly conservative and
            cast a wary eye at all the changes happening in the world from
            what they were accustomed to.

  • Will

    Lieberman totally hates violent video games and thinks that kids will become murders by playing a violent video game. Bah!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-OConnor/1491245262 Colin O’Connor

      That’s a thorny subject for me because I play all kinds of violent videogames but at the same time
      I don’t think a little kid should get the chance to marvel at the skin of Helio’s neck slowly stretch and
      rip as Kratos’ rips his head off. The realism factor is way the hell up. God of War 3 is definitely
      going to be on my shelf but I wouldn’t play that with little kids around.

  • Utmu

    I like the fact that he makes us sound like were talking in broken English:
    “‘Why you write about politics on the site? I go to site to avoid politics. Maybe I get politics elsewhere. Maybe I don’t think important. Maybe I simply do not have capacity to care about anything other than Metal all day always all the time. Why you try ruin this for me? No politics!’”

    • Justin Foley

      I just kind of pictured an old Russian guy yelling at me. I don’t know why. “No want politics! Want vodka!”

  • http://evilsausage.livejournal.com/ Evil

    Q: How do you know when Joe Lieberman is lying?

    A: Are his lips moving?