TRIVIUM NOW ONE-QUARTER BETTER

Thursday, February 4th, 2010 at 2:00pm by

triviumI’ve personally never understood all the ire directed at Trivium by metal purists. In Trivium you have a band with above average chops and way better than average songwriting skills led a young phenom who’s a helluva nice guy. What’s not to like — or, at the very least if it just ain’t your thang musically speaking (which is fine), what is there to HATE? Sure, there was that Metallica ripoff album that was pretty ridiculous in concept, but even that album was executed well and the band promptly righted their ship with the next one. As for as more commercially-oriented metal goes there are WAY WAY WAY worse bands than Trivium. Way worse, people. Trivium are the good guys in that fight.

We’ve always felt that the band did lack a bit in the live department, though, mainly because of drummer Travis Smith. Way back in March of 2007, only our third month as a website, Axl reviewed a Lamb of God gig at NYC’s Roseland at which Trivium opened, nailing the problem with Smith thusly:

the fault here appears to lie primarily with drummer Travis Smith, who often seems to be playing a different song from his bandmates. I’m all for fast drumming, but Smith is completely incapable of staying on the beat, and the rest of the band’s performances suffer severely as a consequence of trying to keep up with him.

And this has always been the case with Smith. It seemed like he was always trying to keep up with the ProToolsed performances he laid down on record and couldn’t quite do it. But the other three members of Trivium need worry no more, as rumors of Travis Smith’s departure from the band have now been confirmed. Noisecreep reports:

“We’re really happy to have our good friend and fellow Floridian Nick Augusto join the Trivium family,” Vocalist/guitarist Matt Heafy commented.

“Nick’s drumming is very technical and diverse, and he brings a real intense energy to the band and we can’t wait for everyone to hear the new song, ‘Shattering the Skies Above,’ that we just recorded with Nick. I think it’s the best Trivium recording we’ve ever done; it’s raw, full of energy, and I think Nick’s drumming really pushed us to a new level.”

It isn’t clear whether it was a “he quit” or “we fired him” situation, but whatever the case one thing is certain: the former Maruta drummer — who filled in for Smith on Trivium’s fall tour with Chimaira — is now an official member of the band, and Trivium are all the better for it. Trivium just recorded a new song called “Shattering the Skies Above” with Augusto on drums, but the real difference will come in the live arena where we’ve already seen Augusto play. And yes, the band is now markedly improved; he’s a helluva drummer.

-VN

  • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

    No, there really is no band worse than Trivium. I stand by that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Wilfred/100000007099811 Edward Wilfred

      The ting tings? The Jonas Brothers?

      • Jewers

        Attack Attack!?

      • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

        Say what you want, the Jonas Tools get paid.

        • James

          But they never get laid… Trivium win there methinks.

    • BigJoe

      Oceano?

      • http://dmxrr15@hotmail.com IsntaTOTALdouchebag10

        Dumb comment, there are thousands upon thousands of worse bands. There must be an underlying issue as to why you think this way. Name a few of your favorite bands

        • Natalie

          He thinks it because it makes him WAYZ BR00TALZ

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            Besides being WAY TOO BROOTALz for my own good (rolling eyes) I just think that this Band brings absolutely nothing new or interesting to the table besides a lackluster connection to the once- Mighty Metallica.

        • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

          Death, Cannibal, Obituary, Early Metallica, Early Megadeth, Onslaught, Motorhead, Overkill, Pantera, LoG, Killswitch, Shadows Fall, Sabbath, Candlemass, Obsessed, Priest, Cephalic Carnage, Skelotenwitch, Down, CoC, Eyehategod..

          Do i need to keep going?

          My comment probably shouldve been voiced as more opiniative, but hey- thanks for being a douchebag and trying to flame me. No underlying issues here ? Whats your favorite bands- oh pretty please say something like Suicide silence or emmure…..

          • !?!

            Your comment is a hyperbole and patently false. Douchebag was just pointing that out. And then he tried to engage you in a dialogue, which took for flaming. But hey, you have fun standing by that ludicrous statement of yours.

            What I don’t get is: why do bands like Trivium HAVE to bring something new to the table. It’s not like any of the bands you listed are doing much that’s radically different from each other. Death, Trash, Doom–all slight variations on the same sonic palette (LOUD as all Hell with rad drums)

            PS I like a lot of the bands you listed–Metallica, Megadeth, Motorhead, Pantera, SKELETONWITCH, Down–and wouldn’t recognize a Suicide Silence song if you played it for me, so don’t accuse me of being a -core kid or whatever nonsense that is.

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            Wow…try too hard much? and are you Douchebag’s bodyguard or something?

            As for my “Patently false comment” It amounts to nothing more than I shouldve indicated it as nothing more than my opinion. There are worse bands out there, of course I know that. I simply got too excited with my opinion. So ya…YOUR MOM!!!

          • !?!

            Yeah, you probably should have indicated that. And I’m not trying to hard: I wanna know now. So how about you contribute something other than a poorly thought out opinion and answer the question. Why do bands like Trivium HAVE to contribute something new?

            F*ck, people! The Internet is for communication! This website is for DISCUSSION of something we all like; I assume we all like, otherwise why are you wasting you time! Quit throwing feces and use your big boy words!

            Or not. Whatever. I’m not going to waste any more of my time talking to myself.

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            Because I listen to what I love. And what I love in Metal is different shit. If i have to spell it out to you any further, than you good sir are a product of Dubya’s No Child left behind.

            Its as simple as that, descend from my nuts go think of some snazzy comeback. But please be brief your shit is getting tired.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

            how can someone hate on trivium yet like killswitch engage? they’re kinda cut from the same digestable pop metal cloth.

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            Kse at least fuck off and have a good time. Read: Dont take themselves to seriously. And despite my misgivings for Metalcore Kse is def a Metalcore band beyond a shadow of a Doubt. I dunno i just think theyre different from Trivial.

          • itsnotcooltobesatanic

            Fuck your bands. PLEASE PLEAAASEEE don’t say ” Ehhrrr dude these bands created your scene bands of today” because i’ve heard that pathetic comment a thousand times. Metallica is shit, lars ulrich is shit. i REALLY don’t know how metallica can have many fans at all, all the “metalheads” was probably really weak and gay at the time, i don’t blame them. Metallica and pantera and all that “hardcorenot” shit was probably the rawest music you could listen to at that time

    • http://thenumberoftheblog.wordpress.com/ groverXIII
      • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

        No theyre WAY MORE BROoTAL

    • http://www.myspace.com/metalmedicine KillaKyle

      OH YES THERE IS.

      HERE’S A LINK!!

      Myspace.com/Submittosuggestion

  • Keepitwolf

    It’s a fucking shame that dude quit Maruta for Trivium.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Wilfred/100000007099811 Edward Wilfred

      Money talks and bullshit walks.

      • Geekbeater

        Trivium sell out shows worldwide. Why wouldnt he quit? Because of the ten fans Maruta has? PLEAAAASSE

    • John

      Agreed, but you can’t hate him for chasing that paper.

      • Nick-for-president

        why do you all expect it to be about money? Sure it would have been a consideration, but have you heard the amount of different styles he uses in “shattering”, i think nick joined because he likes the music, likes the guys and feels he has a broader spectrum of styles to use in Trivium, rather than being limited in Maruta. Sure, money is one consideration, but Maruta can cope and Trivium are a much better band now. just my opinion.

  • cougar party

    I’ve seen Trivium twice. Once with Lamb of God in ’07 and once last year. Both times the band sounded great, with the exception of Travis. His “signature footwork” that he is known for on the albums (which i don’t find incredibly impressive) was non-existent. He augmented most of the really fast beats with slower ones and always seemed to be a little late on all the changes. Also, he hardly ever does any fills. It strange in contrast to how good, Matt, Corey, and Paolo sound.

    I have an unapologetic appreciation for this band, but I am looking forward to hearing them with Nick Augusto.

    • http://myspace.com/wearecarnevil AEnema175

      I used to be a fan until i listened to Travis live. i immediately lost all interest in them because he was so bad. I could play Trivium’s hardest songs on drums when i was 15, sometimes even faster than he did on the album. and i could do it all in one take. This fact alone has had me pissed off for years because, I can easily out play him, and i live in the same city, yet i couldn’t find a good band to play with to save my life. I have now, but its a very frustrating scene down here. In essence, I cant wait to hear what they can do with a decent drummer.

      And i know this is shameless self advertising but, is anyone in this thread a lead guitarist or bassist in Orlando? just thought I’d ask cause you never know.

  • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

    fuck all of you, trivium kicks ass

    • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

      and btw, thats directed 2 the haters, not to vince, or anyone who disparages travis’ drumming. i wasnt a huge fan either, but ascendancy is one of my favorite albums of all time. i saw them with nick on their latest stop in NYC and he slayed it, so im looking forward

      • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

        Not a Hater per se, just dont see what the fuss is about.

        Like i said i shouldve re-worded my comment.

        • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

          theres a small difference between “i dont see what all the fuss is about” and “there is no band worse than trivium” lol. i get you though, we make mistakes sometimes, to err is human

    • Deven

      Second that

  • familyghost

    what happened to travis?

    • http://myspace.com/wearecarnevil AEnema175

      Who cares?

      • d00dman

        a more interesting question: why do you need to be such an asshole by posing things like that

  • http://www.last.fm/user/wrath_of_vishnu Dillon

    Maruta better not lose their credibility for this.

    Oh, and btw, it still surprises me that Matt Heafy was on Capharnaum’s “Fractured”. I actually like that album, mostly in an instrumental stance, WAY better than Trivium could ever accomplish.

    • John

      Maruta won’t lose their credibility, as long as they keep putting out solid albums.

      Thats like saying that phobia lost their credibilty because the drummer from fear factory played on cruel.

  • Crypticbeast754

    I’m another one of those confused guys. The string players can shred and still play tight live and are all extremely genuine and humble. I hear some complaints about Matt having shitty vocals, but that’s just personal taste. I don’t get what their is to full on HATE.

    • familyghost

      because morons demand to know why people dont like them when its all based on personal taste. when youre told you’re wrong for not being into trivium by fanboy retards(kind of like the people stuck up metallica’s ass) of course you’re going to bash them. fanboy’s just ask to be trolled with their asshurt nature and them taking the internet so seriously. because you know, the internet is only for positive opinions and hugs. oh wait, its only positive when you agree with it.

      • !?!

        Actually, I’d like to see a lot more positive opinions and hugs on the Internet. It’d be a nice change from all the usual shit-talking and unproductive nonsense that takes up 95% of every damn message board. And no, its only positive when you put some thought behind that opinion of yours.

      • lybrium

        haha, +10000 for family ghost, keep rippin it man, you rock!

  • Lybrium

    trivium gets one gigantically mediocre, “MEH…” What is there to hate? Well not much, but I want to rant anyways, c’mon…

    1. Lyrics! – Heafy has the lyrical themes of a 15 year old, and not an exceptional one. nuff said.

    2. Songwriting – Really Vince? excluding the first album, but these guys write pop metal, and not the good stuff like DT or anything, they just stumble their way to the hook, and boy do those hooks ever suck.

    3. Chops – Better than average my ass, lets compare: Average metal band – KSE>trivium. You mean more boring than average I think?

    Am I being to rash? Are these guys actually any good? Three albums, and three solid pieces of evidence tell me HELL NO.

    • gibberish

      Last I checked, there were four albums.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mathew-James-Saunders/1153389571 Mathew James Saunders

      You lost all credibility with the “KSE>Trivium” statement lol and yes IMO, they do have chops…that’s one of the best aspects of the band is their guitar players

      • cougar party

        Seconded. Anyone who has a rudimentary understanding of guitar playing would know these guys have chops regardless of your opinion of the music.

        • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

          I will second that.

          • lybrium

            Four albums, my bad, but I can see why I missed one.

            The point was more that both bands chops are very average, yet both bands are extremely popular. I retain the opinion that nothing about Trivium is above average.

            Ok, I have a rudimentary understanding of guitar playing, and yes they HAVE chops, no one is disagreeing with that fact, I mean they are a fucking metal band are they not?!?!? I believe I mentioned that their chops are not ABOVE AVERAGE. Thank you, NEXT!

      • lybrium

        Shit, I lost all credibility? oh shit!

    • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

      i guess part of it is personal taste, but i will say that trivium was my gateway into the heavier stuff, and im a full fledged metalhead due primarily to them being my entry point. also, ascendancy is actually a really really solid album in my opinion. aside from the blatant ripping of one at the end of rain, i think its pretty original and fresh too.
      on a side note, your comparison to killswitch, i respect trivium more in that regard because theyve been mixing up their sound since their first album. every album is a lil more refined and different than the next. obviously it doesnt always work (heres lookin at you, The Crusade), but i respect the effort.
      anyone who regularly reads the comments on this site knows my opinion on KSE’s album progression though. i love em, i really do, but at the same time, since Howard came to the band (and this may be a coincidence or it may be his fault, i have no idea), they havent really put out an original track. they havent released 3 albums in the past 5 years, theyve released one, 32 track album in 3 parts. its all the same. in that respect, i dislike them strongly, because frankly, im getting bored.
      to each their own, but ascendancy era trivium narrowly beats end of heartache era KSE, though maybe thats just the nostalgia factor talking

    • RenegadeDave

      First on the chops: Funny you draw a comparison to KsE. Based SOLELY on their bodies of work, Trivium’s recordings can hang with KsE if not draw an edge. Both players in KsE have great chops, but it’s not their recorded material that show me that, it’s all the other videos floating around on the interwebs that showcase that fact. Try and pickup a guitar and figure out a KsE song. It’s really not that challenging, your off the shelf Trivium song will have you hitting the rewind button. I think Trivium are AT LEAST as good as KsE.

      Won’t argue over lyrics. Heafy has terribad lyrics. Especially the Metallica album. They’re better on Shogun, but there was a lot of headroom for improvement.

      Songwriting is highly subjective. I think Trivium’s stuff is pretty interesting to listen to. They pull off some good melodies on their hooks sometimes. I mean they’re at least at a 1 to 1 ratio of forgettable to memorable hooks.

      They’ve developed a lot as a band too, the Ember stuff nearly sounds out of place next to the Shogun stuff.

      I will shamelessly admit that I like Trivium. They’re not my favorite or anything, but they have some good stuff for every once in a while consumption. I was at the show where Nick debuted with Trivium in Atlanta, and he was great out of the box.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rik-Powell/286400508 Rik Powell

      KSE are basically everything that’s wrong with modern popular metal. Trivium are so much better.

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/46e389eb8b79606050d3d447431ff6ac?s=80 Nate

      Yeah, the 5 guitar-lined segments corey beaulieu rights aren’t good. Fucking moron.

    • Rachel

      Comparing Devin Townsend to Trivium is like the saying about comparing apples to oranges. They are pretty different from each other, and niether of them have, nor will they ever, cross subgenres in the World of Metal.

      • LEROYDRAGON

        your a fucking dickhead Lybrium. Have you heard SHOGUN?? I was never a fan before I heard that record, its shreds its fucking face off, and yours, and fucking poofter Killswitch.

        • lybrium

          You are angry Leroy!

          As a matter of fact, yes, I have heard SHOGUN, in my OPINION, it’s not above average. I was a fan of ascendancy actually so I might have more credibility here than you. FYI, I dont like Killswitch, in fact I prefer Trivium, you read what you wanted to in my comment, not what was actually there, it was a comparison of average metal bands chops, both of wich are very overrated in MY OPINION. Oh and dude, I’m so sorry I offended your love for this band, I really hope I didnt do any lasting damage.

          • LEROYDRAGON

            yes i am angry. angry that i even have to defend Trivium! But.. dude, please listen to that Kirsute Gomen song or whatever the fuck it is called, and then tell me they have ‘above average chops’ The dudes are fucking shredders. Amazing shredders actually, they piss on Killswitch, and most of the ‘tech crap’ thats out their now too. The compositions, 5 part guitar parts.. I never liked this band, but fuck man, when I heard what they do now, its impressive. Killswitch are fucking shit. Everything Trivuim have done before Shogun, shit. Shogun, rips. Even if you dont like it, you cant say the musician ship isnt there.. because it is, and your a fucking ignorant cunthair, or DEAF if you cant hear it.

      • lybrium

        You are so right it hurts,

        I would probably say the same thing if Trivium was my favorite band.

        Then again, they suck ass, so why not compare them to someone who does not, you know, to emphasize the point of their suckiness?

        Look folks, this is partially serious, partially cynicism, and mostly humor, if you don’t take it personally, and remember that it is just an opinion at the end of the day, we will all get along just great.

        (Last part not directed at you Rachel, as your comment did not mention whether you like trivium or not, tks for the comment)

        • LEROYDRAGON

          I dont even own any of their cd’s!!! I heard their songs, and thought, who the fuck is this, this shit has some killer playing, and yeah, respect where respect is due.

          Killswitch.. are not even metal. They are pop garbage marketed at pre mentruating 13 year old girls, formulaic song structures, and the gayest fucking lyrics of all time.

          My favourite bands… not Trivium. But still, I am in a band, I play music, and instruments, and respect where respect is due. They have clearly pushed their musical abilites to their limits, something KSE hasnt done since AOJB.

          Thanks for the entertaining argument / killing work time though.

          Enjoy your KSE.

          • LEROYDRAGON

            your welcome.

            http://bit.ly/aZ8N2J

            click that , you will like it.

          • lybrium

            Dude, you are on FIRE!!!

            Look mate, I already stated that I do not like Killswitch, I will not explain that shnazz again so please before you get anymore butthurt, actually bother to read my past comments, THANKS DOG!

            Trivium does deserve respect, just like you do, just like anything, my opinion, as already stated is that NOTHING about this band is above average, that is all.

            Here are a few facts for you to chew on though (not opinion, TRUTH!!:): When you get angry you apparently have a hard time spelling, so try not to, and Trivium has most definitely NOT “pushed their musical abilities to their limits”, there is always room for improvement my friend.

            Actually I will enjoy In Mourning’s new album now, check it out, I think you will likey.

            peace

          • lybrium

            I forgot something, there was no need to bring you’re homophobic comment into a conversation about metal bands, I honestly think that shit is pathetic and childish. Gayest? according to who? you and your Gay Scale? C’mon man, that shit makes you no better than a racist, give it up. Once again though, in case you missed it three times and misread this comment as well: I agree that Killswitch suck, that was the point of the comparison. Don’t hurt yourself big guy.

        • LEROYDRAGON

          jeeeeeees. Ok. When talking about KSEngGAY, I am NO WAY REFFERING TO HOMOSEXUALS. Even my homo friends, think KSEngay are, gay. Not in the ” lybrium” gets sexually aroused by Adam D kind of gay, but the, ( and as i have said before ) Shit, i have just got a flat tyre, fucking gay kind of way. It only becomes an insult towards homosexuals when people like you gett butt hurt about it.

          Priest = singer is homo, but they fucking rock

          KSE, lybrium = GAY!

          :)

          lml

          • lybrium

            You are the smartest peanut in the turd.

          • LEROYDRAGON

            “You are the smartest peanut in the turd” hahahah dude thats the best thing i have ever heard! it was well worth the argument to unveil that little gem!

            i think im going to twit that one.

            “you are the smartest peanut in the turd” bahahaha well done cunt, well done

            @doubledragonau

        • LEROYDRAGON

          anways lybrium, its been a good stouche, lets do it again sometime.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sanskar-Wagley/1376400331 Sanskar Wagley

    what happened to Matt Heafy’s rumored one man black metal band, Populous Inferno?

    • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

      No one ever really gave a fuck.

      • James

        Well… No one ever gave you one. There, there!

  • ACoffinShip

    I really enjoyed Ascendancy but can’t stand The Crusade. It wasn’t so much the stylistic shift (although I preferred their old sound) but the lyrics just never seemed to WORK. From right out the gate I could never seem to get into them. There was no subtlety. To The Rats and And Sadness Will Sear are painfully ham-fisted and This World Can’t Tear us Apart just seals the deal.

    Eventually I hope they decide to get back to their roots, I would definitely buy an Ascendancy Part 2.

    • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

      10000000000

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rik-Powell/286400508 Rik Powell

      Agreed, but Shogun’s better than either album.

      • ACoffinShip

        I’m hearing that quite a bit in this thread. I’ll have to give it a shot. I’ve definitely been wrong about bands before.

    • The Overmatt

      I’m kinda the opposite. Heafy’s vocals on Ascendancy killed the album for me, while I felt that they stepped up the performances in general on The Crusade. I’ll admit Shogun is superior overall, but I dunno, I think they’ve gotten better on each release.

  • Genial Gentile

    So that means Trivium is still 3/4 full of suck.

    • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

      obvious troll is obvious

    • familyghost

      yup and their fanboys are 100% homosexual

      • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

        wouldnt exactly call myself a fanboy, but if you’re just gonna go around making retarded comments that add nothing to the conversation, you deserve to get called out at least. that had nothing to do with my homosexual feelings for trivium, rather i was simply commenting on the inanity of his statement

        • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

          Its nice to see (at least from this picture) Corey is finally saying NO to the Donuts.

          • familyghost

            yes i smoke meth!!i smoke it for breakfast lunch and dinner!!WHo0o0o0o0o WHeeeeeeeeeee Mmmmmmmm Hmmmmmmmmmm get some punk!!

          • Omar

            I’m a Trivium fan but holy fuck I lol’d

        • familyghost

          yup call me out gayboy!!like thats gonna stop me form pwning fanboy fart knockers like you!!get some punk!!REAL METAL OR GTFO!!talk shit, we’ll talk it back asshurt cry baby!!oh noezz some one hates mah man crush band bawwwwww bawwwwww you cant havez a negativez opinionz teh interwebz is for hugs and for fanboys to get their e cock stroked by other fanboyzzz! WHo0o0o0o0o WHeeeeeeeeeee yall make me laugh with your pretentious need to force everyone to like heafy metal(or else)!! we_get_it_here!!see ya in the pit bitch!! watch your step!!

          • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

            lol dude i dont know what ur problem is. im simply weighing in with my opinion, just cuz u disagree doesnt mean u needa attack me

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            So this is what happens when you type whilst tweaked on Meth?

            Interesting.

          • RockOutWithMy…YouKnow

            YES!!!! Best comment on metalsucks ever!!!!! He just “pwned dem there fanboys”
            Oh, and be careful because apparently he’s gonna beat you up in the pit….
            Some people are really just retarded.

          • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

            yeah seriously dude, if ur gonna troll, do it fucking good, mkay?

        • familyghost

          lol im fucking with ya bahahahaha. look up trolling..son!!

          • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

            lol i know what trolling is asshole, its just stupid

        • Genial Gentile

          For the record, I don’t think I was really trolling. Just stating that even the addition of a good drummer won’t make their songs any less boring. Obviously this is merely opinion, but I have absolutely no love for Trivium. I find them to be a bland and emotionless knock-off of the bands I grew up loving.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rik-Powell/286400508 Rik Powell

    I love Trivium. I hated The Crusade and when I saw them live in support of that album they were absolutely terrible, but Shogun is an amazing album and I saw them live last year and they were awesome. I think they only even played one song from The Crusade. They’ve totally redeemed themselves as far as I’m concerned.

  • pigchop

    I don’t understand any hate for this band. WTF – solid, well executed metal on record. What’s not to like? Obviously the live presentation was lacking, but with that problem possibly fixed, what’s not to like?

    • familyghost

      the unoriginal riffs, the stupid lyrics, the fanboy asshurt they attract. need i say more?

      • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

        im detecting some serious projection/jealousy here. are you just pissed because (insert name of some kvlt br00tal band) wont let you bone them? its really okay, dont feel rejected, you just have to keep trying and they”ll let you in eventually

        • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

          Lamb of God, while possibly not on the same level Technical ability wise (which I still may argue) Completely smoke these guys.

          - Better lyrics

          - No stylistic comparisons immediate (and if you say Pantera you Lose at life completely)

          - Badass Live show.

          Simply my opinion.

          • familyghost

            damn straight

          • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

            hey man, i respect everyones opinion, but if someones gna pick a fight with me cuz i like something he thinks is lame, well what the fuck is that bout? i respect that you dont think trivium is good, ur entitled to think that, and im entitled to think that they kick ass, and some other guy is entitled to think theyre the second coming, but why do people need to go around and say stupid shit that doesnt add anything intelligent to the conversation? thats when i start to lose my shit.
            and yes, LOG beats trivium IMO, but does that mean that trivium cant be good?

          • Dimebag6sic6

            ok im not going to bash your opinion and i am one of the biggest fans of lamb of god out where i live, but Lamb of God’s lyrics are pretty fucking stupid haha. It’s really fun to headbang to, and both Willie and Mark are shredders to their core, but the lyrics are pretty cliche and way to political imo.

            That being said, I don’t think Trivium’s lyrics are much better on their first 3 albums, but the Shogun had some pretty cool lyrical content.

          • ACoffinShip

            I’m a big fan of Lamb of God because their lyrics ARE political. I live, breathe, eat, and shit politics so a healthy dose of Lamb of God and Bad Religion gives me some kind of non-violent outlet for my disappointment and disgust with the system.

          • Biff_Tannen

            LOG (I still always think of Ren and Stimpy when I read that accronym) is crap. Pop metal. It acts as a gateway into the real shit….luckily, many of their backwards cap wearing fans will never jump into metal’s deep end.
            LOG also absorbed Pantera’s retarded fanbase into their own.

            O’Doyle RULES !!!!

          • LEROYDRAGON

            PANTERA???????

        • familyghost

          talking shit are we??get some punk!!i’ll take all you heafy metal fanboys on!!bring it gayboy!!this aint no rodeo son!!wash my toaster bitch!!jealous??of what?some band that’ll be the next shadows fall in 5 years??forgotten son!!i aint jealous of no talents hitting it big!!good for them being llucky!!but they still suck!!regardleaa of popularity!!now suck it gayboy!!wE_get_it_here!!take your asshurt else where bitch!!

          • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

            i lolled

        • familyghost

          its the internet. its not serious. if youre looking for an intelligent conversation this is the wrong site for you brah

          • Brian \m/(-_-)\m/

            yeah i guess. i dont have a problem with shit talking and stupid banter or being contradicted, but trolling makes me lose my shit

  • thehatemachine

    I think Trivium rock pretty hard. just saw them about a month ago and they sounded exactly like the cd versions. was the first gig for the new drummer i think. they played so hard they blew the power out and kept playing with emergency lights. was like an old school metal show.

    • Gideon

      uh, that means the lights blew, not the amps. i saw The Showdown, now I’m not a fan of the music or the message of the music, but I saw them at ozzfest 07, and the kick drum actually made breeze every hit. like it actually made the blankets covering the amps and pa’s (it was drizzling) blow. that is rocking it hard, not just blowing the lights.

  • Biff_Tannen

    a couple years ago, these guys were at a local bar called “Liars Club” here in chicago after they played a show. I have NEVER, EVER once in my life been around a larger group of swollen ego douchebags. these guys expected the royal treatment in there from everyone in the bar. Seriously, I cannot explain in words the way these guys acted. TOTAL assholes, with frat boy attitudes. I have never heard a note of their music, and never want to.

    • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

      You’re not the first person ive heard tell that story. Part of the reason i dont care for ‘em.

  • Facebook User

    I don’t ever seek out trivium on my ipod and listen to them, but if trivium comes up on shuffle I don’t skip to the next song. That’s pretty much how I feel about them.

    • Rachel

      Same here. Nicely said.

  • Lee

    People defending Trivium make me laugh. It’s Trivium get over it.

  • Gideon

    Seriously? SERIOUSLY!? Dude, if you think Trivium is good, and have actually listened to them, I just don’t know what is wrong with you. Some of their riffs might be below average, but there’s a point in every song where i just want to kill the frontman for either: 1 – sucking his own dick. 2 – writing the worst music of all time, 3 – for having WAAAAAYYYY to much guitar melodic bigtime suckme leads. Period. Also, the vocals are all horrible. All of them. Also, the bassist is alright. I don’t care about any drummer who wastes their talents on this band.

    MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • familyghost

      talking shit about slayer are ya?? get in the pit son!!we_get_it_here!!

      • RockOutWithMy…YouKnow

        Who are you, and what are you on????
        Holy fuck, are you actually picking “fights?”
        “get in the pit son!!!”
        Wow, I can’t even get through a complete thought after reading your rants.

        • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

          Its painful isnt it?

        • Biff_Tannen

          “Get in the pit son!!”

          Probably a Pantera fan, just relax people.

      • Wyzt

        tag team this shit son. we get this shit down in the pit, 2slayers up in this shit gonna fuck_some_shit_up. 1000 trivium gayboys cant handle this shit. fuck bitches

        • familyghost

          damn fucker!!they wish they were as metal as us!!get in the pit babies!!we’ll fuck yall up!!

  • familyghost

    Bo0o0o0o00o0oo00 familyghost bring teh pwnership on yallz!!fuckers beware!!

    • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

      Inbreeding…we get it.

      • Wyzt

        Its the only way to protect the true metal lineage dumbass.

      • fredfrito

        mullet power!

      • familyghost

        it’s “we_get_it_here!!” you poser douchebag gayboy!!

    • RenegadeDave

      This is the same brand of verbal vomit people in those ICP fan videos spout from time to time.

      • familyghost

        oh you want some too do ya!!been listening to metal since the early eighties son!!bets respect your elders!!get in the pit!!we’ll see how man enough ya are then!!get some punk!!there’s enough of the ghost to go around for all you posers!!WHo0o0oo0o0o0 WHeeeeeeeeeeeee cant get enough of the ghost can ya gyaboys??you wish you had a boat and a hot wife like me!!she bleeds real good too fucker!!Mmmmmmmmmmm Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

        • RockOutWithMy…YouKnow

          By boat do you mean trailer? And by wife do you mean sister/cousin?

          • Wyzt

            Technicalities. Do you point out small grammatical errors to all your friends?

          • familyghost

            we’re talking about me not you SON!!so boat means boat and wife means my human punching bag who BETTER BE MAKING ME SANDWICH OR SHE’S GETTING KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!!ya hear me marie??yeah thats what I thought!!get some nancy boy!!you wish you were the ghost!!but you aint!!only one ghost!!and he has it all in a barrel!! WHo0o000o0 Wheeeeeeee we_get_it_here!!

          • Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

            ZIING! Win Sir.

          • lybrium

            +infinity

        • Natsquatch

          Are you done now?

          • familyghost

            GTFO if you dont like it gayboy!!we’ll say what we like!!get in the pit son!!we’ll show ya who’s daddy!!who no child support for my gay son!!nope!!just shiners for his ma!!WHo0o0o0o0o0 WHeeeeeeee

  • fredfrito

    now if they could just get a new singer, guitarist, bassist and new band name it would awesome.

  • fredfrito

    trivium should be shot for being so over rated

  • Xenogia

    I met Heafy at launch party for one of their albums and once again his swollen ego was pathetic. He asked me what I thought of it and I just walked away. Better not to say anything right. lol

    • familyghost

      by it did he mean his winky!!haahahahahah thats rich!!

  • Sammy

    I do understand the hate for this band. The world is full of morons; that’s the simple explanation. Aside from not really knowing what Heafy is singing about, this band is great.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Lekberg/779008102 Jason Lekberg

    You know what. They can play. And, they occasionally write a decent song. My problem is that for some reason, no matter how much I listen to them, I just don’t care. They just simply don’t move me.

    • Sammy

      I think you get it, Jason. Without being a stain, you simply stated why you don’t like them. For some reason, they do move me. It’s just taste.

    • Natsquatch

      I love Trivium. It probably has something to do with them being one of the first metal bands I got into back in the day. I never really got tired of them, and I actually appreciate them even more now.

      But I gotcha, I feel the same way about Morbid Angel. *Ducks flying sharp objects*

  • I_did_all_for_the_sn00ki

    You guys are funny

  • AATHD

    If you love metal, then you should hate trivium.

    • Bicro

      I fully agree.

  • Chris

    Hahahaha, why does almost EVERYONE get on here to talk shit about bands. Any band / Musician that you make fun of on here is doing more in music than you EVER will! Just quit with the shit talking lol.

    • familyghost

      no. now GTFO.

  • tyler09

    Travis probably quit. He did get marrried. And marriages have caused quits before

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Hulsey/653830783 David Hulsey

    I agree with this article on all fronts. I can never figure out why everybody hates them so bad. I’ve always been a fan and I’ve met Heafy so many times the fucker remembered me the last few. He actually approached me! They remind me of my first half way decent band in that we all really fucking loved old school metal, yet we only kind of played it. They do it better.

  • JRTME

    I have always like their albums. i have seen them live a few times and hated them live. Maybe this is their fix.

  • Bill

    piss on those who piss on trivium. pissy pissy piss.

  • Ross

    I loved Trivium on Ember to Inferno….really looking forward to their newer albums, but they just kept getting progressively worse in my opinion. I hated how he changed up the vocal styling…he should have worked on the screaming a little more

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

      you honestly heard of them before “Ascendancy”? were you friends with the band? i can’t imagine that album was huge when it came out.

  • H2O

    I hate to tell you, but all tastes are in nature. I just happen to think Trivium sucks big balls.

  • RelaxTheCacks

    ANGRY ANGRY PEOPLE!….cool the jets, like…

  • http://myspace.com/bennymasonband Brock Mason

    Fuck Trivium, theres 4 feet of snow on the ground. This is fucking lame!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zach-Gates/14209777 Zach Gates

    I don’t get the Trivium hate either. They may not be incredible, but it’s not like they’re BAD. The above guy’s justification for “worst band ever” is “they don’t bring anything new to the table.” Really? That’s all it takes to be WORST BAND EVAR!11!1!!1 ?

  • Omghat

    You know who brings something new to the table? Hanna F-N Montana. Yep, I said it! Also, I’m not gay for being a fan of Trivium. I believe if I had sex with someone of the same gender AFTER or BEFORE for that matter listening to Trivium, that makes me gay. Hmmm, argue with that!

  • TrivSkip

    lol i love how this metalsucks web site cant even get the facts right,if you do know any thing about trivium is thay play all there songs fast live even if nick or travis was in the band fact seen them 6 times live each time spead up even matt him self at big day out ( sydney) said we only have a40 mint set so we’ll play fucking fast to fit more songs in

  • http://alltriviumvideos.blogspot.com/ corvomichele

    please give me the template of this blog! IT’S BEATIULLL!!!!!!!!!! rally thanks