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ROB ZOMBIE & JOEY JORDISON: A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN, A MATCH MADE IN HELL

 Friday, March 5th, 2010 at 12:00pm by

Poor Joey Jordison must get bored when he’s not busy with Slipknot; besides Corey Taylor and Clown, he’s easily the most visible member of the band, even when they’re on hiatus (as they are right now). This is extra-amazing when you consider the fact that, unlike Taylor or Clown, he doesn’t really have a side-project: the one he started, Murderdolls, released one album in 2002, did a whole bunch of touring behind it, and then promptly broke-up. (MD vocalist Wednesday 13 recently hinted at a possible Murderdolls reunion, but that doesn’t actually seem to be happening.) But Jordison constantly manages to stay in the spotlight, be it through producing gigs (3 Inches of Blood’s Fire Up the Blades) or, more often, guest spots with other well-known bands: he recorded some drums for Otep’s House of Secrets (as though Otep didn’t sound enough like Slipknot already), toured with Ministry, and did a few tour dates with Satyricon before a couple of their members got arrested on a kiddie-sex charge and that trek was canceled.

And now it’s been announced that Jordison will spend the spring and summer playing for Rob Zombie.

On the one hand, this is perfectly logical; Zombie and Jordison are both, at the end of the day, basically shock rockers. It only makes sense that Zombie’s latest touring band will include a former member of Marilyn Manson and current member of ‘Knot. (Not so interesting side note: Jordison made a cameo in Manson’s “Tainted Love” video, which also featured his new bandmate John 5.)

On the other hand, as is the case with Mr. 5, this is really kind of a waste of Jordison’s talents. I’m not slamming Zombie’s music when I call it “simple,” but let’s be real – you don’t need dudes as proficient with their instruments as Jordison and John 5 are to play “Dragula” or “More Human Than Human” (half of which are drum loops anyway).

Still, I imagine this will make upcoming Zombie shows – including his tour with Alice Cooper and stint on Mayhem Fest – that much more interesting…

-AR

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  • http://www.myspace.com/sciomancy hater_guy

    damn, joey has a 5-head from hell!

  • Shinaain

    You forgot about Joey filling in for Korn. (Or was that on purpose?) Put me down for a MD revival, though; too bad it all sounds like an exercise in whim and whimsy.

    When he fills in, it’s always interesting to hear what Joey brings to bands whose sounds aren’t as technically demanding as Slipknot’s. I’m still chuffed to think of when he filled in for Lars during Metallica’s last stint at Download, people in the crowd were cheering JOEY. That’s badass. \m/ I have to wonder just how much touring with these acts keeps him occupied, though. Really, I wonder if Joey drumming for Zombie is the equivalent of me having taken AP classes my senior year in high school – not because I cared, but because otherwise I would have been so freaking bored I would have flunked out of school entirely.

    • stu1

      He just filled in for a show, right? Did he do anything substantial with Korn?
      And MD was one of the worst things I’ve ever heard. The worst is what Wed 13 has been doing since.

      • Shinaain

        Which gig – Korn or Metallica? Metallica was one set at Download 2004, but he and Clint Lowery both gigged with Korn for a full summer tour in 2007. And as far as I can tell, MD was never meant to be anything more than just fun, so that’s how I took it. It was fun for what it was and I’d be interested to hear what else they would do with the concept if they were motivated to do so. Of course, whatever passing interest by association I had in Wednesday 13 ended with that group going on indefinite hiatus.

        I just remembered Joey contributed a remix for Puscifer. Wonder if he ever has/ever will play any of those gigs with Maynard?

      • Superhans

        i think joey contributed on a couple of tracks on untitled.. evolution for sure!

        • http://vague-news.blogspot.com Clarky Cat

          Not too sure whether he contributed to the writing of any songs on Untitled but he definately toured with them for a while and I’m pretty sure he’s in the video to Evolution.

  • GN

    I don’t think its fair to say that when a musician plays with a “less technical” project, that they’re talents are being “wasted”

    There’s alot more to to playing a huge show than having technical prowess on your instrument. You have to be a professional….meaning: being able to work with the sound of an arena, putting on a show with 15,000 people staring at you, actually making it to all the gigs because you don’t have a rampant cocaine addiction.

    And as a drummer, Joey is a guy that can shred, but also KEEP A GROOVE. Zombie’s music may be “simpler,” but its sound needs to be portrayed by musicians who understand the music and its purpose. Thats probably why Joey got/took this gig.
    Plus he’ll probably score some sweet pussy all summer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Showalter/100000592087843 Anthony Showalter

      I agree all the way. “KEEP A GROOVE” Whenever I hear a drummer who does nothing but cymbal crashes everywhere and distasteful rolls all over the place, I’m like “BOOOOOOOOO!” I played with a drummer, no disrespect to him, that would play unnecessarily long rolls and double bass on a lot our songs regardless of weather it fit or not (and often times it didn’t), even the fuckin’ mellow songs!

      • http://myspace.com/wearecarnevil AEnema175

        I have to ask, when has Joey done a groove? ever? i have never heard him groove. I have seen him live twice and both times he could barely keep time let alone groove. Joey a great drummer with Pro Tools in hand but without it he is as terrible as Travis Smith. Fuck Joey and drummers who cannot keep god damn time the most basic of all drummer’s abilities.

        Also, Anthony you talk about how your drummer had unnecessary double bass and rolls, well that is how everything joey plays sounds. He cannot play music how it was written, even his own music he has to make more complicated and completely ruin it.

    • http://music.msn.com/superfans/heavy-metal/blog pdf

      This is absolutely right. Sure, Mike Portnoy and Neil Peart are amazing drummers, but so is Phil Rudd from AC/DC – you know, the guy who never plays a fill, ever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/This-Fluffy-Bunny-Rabbit-Is-More-Death-Metal-Than-Rose-Funeral/323344674395?v=wall&ref=nf The Metal Bunny

    Joey Jordison is Ugly. As fuck.

    • MSalonen

      Doesn’t really matter when you’re extremely skilled and successful in doing something you love.

      • cougar party

        Less bloated too.

  • Lady Death

    And a tour I swore to boycott this year is, once again, getting half my summer paycheck. Oh well, it’s worth it to see Joey. A few years ago he made Korn more interesting (even though I like them anyway). He’s easily one of the most diverse drummers in metal and it’s always fun to hear his take on a song. I agree he may be wasting his talent on this tour, but if you think about it, Slipknot doesn’t do much to showcase his ability either. I’d love to see him get another side project going that lets him really let loose on the kit. All (I think four) of his songs on the Roadrunner United album were totally different styles of rock/metal. You just know he has to have many more tricks up his sleeve.

    • chris

      slipknot doesn’t do much to showcase his ability??? when i saw slipknot i was waiting for the whole band to get up there behind the kit and suck his dick while he was playing. it seemed like the joey jordison show with people trying to play along with him. slipknot fucking blows now, joey is overrated as fuck, they are absolute garbage live, and this is all coming from someone who had to buy their self-titled album three times because i played it so much. oh and he’s not diverse at all, his beats in each song all fall into the same realm of groove and time, his drum fills are the same thing constantly, sixteenth notes around the kit or alternating between hands and feet. joey sucks, slipknot sucks, get over it. you can’t hang on to 8th grade metal forever.

  • gojirasaurus

    Ihate jordinson simply because to many kids think hes the greatest drummer in the world. he double drum triggers his bass to make them sound extra loud and his fills just consist of dub-bass and a tom hit to make them sound “complex”, which is creative but garmers way to much praise. Listen kids, just because Slipknots the only mainstream metal band band that uses double bass drums regularly doesnt make him a god.

    • Shinaain

      I hear what you’re saying and you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but there’s only ONE Mario Duplantier and it’s not fair to hold ANYONE to that standard. For all his humility and for all the people who – rightly or wrongly, depending on your point of view – praise him for his work, Joey Jordison IS an accomplished drummer (and guitarist and songwriter and businessman) and deservedly successful at what he does.

      • http://myspace.com/wearecarnevil AEnema175

        I have no respect for any drummer that triggers his god damn cymbals. also he needs to learn to keep time before he can be considered good by any standard. Good for him for being a good guitarist, song writer, and businessman, but we are talking about his drumming ability which is strongly lacking. He is one of those people that just skipped the basics entirely and went straight to the hard stuff, and subsequently he will be never be good until he relearns how to play.

  • M
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brett-J-McCabe/41500031 Brett J McCabe

    I AGREE WHOLE-HEARTEDLY.

  • Shawn S

    Triggers his cymbals?? What kind of fucking idiot are you?! Granted Joey Jordison is in no way the most impressive drummer or even metal drummer out there.. But figure out what the fuck you’re talking about b4 you start ranting with your less than credible assumptions and opinions. You DON’T know what the fuck you’re talking about so don’t act like you do.

    If you want to see a real drummer: look up Jojo Mayer, Carter Beauford, John Blackwell Jr., Johnny Raab, Thomas Lang, Gavin Harrison, or Tony Royster Jr.

    And for those of you too scared to listen to other music because its not “metal” or “scene” enough look up Derek Roddy or Alex Pelletier. That’s real Metal drumming talent you dumb fuckers!

    • chris

      agreed. i saw gavin harrison tour with king crimson and that was probably the best drumming i have ever seen, ehhhh maybe when i saw jon theodore with the mars volta.

    • Screw Off

      Look guy, Just because you bought a Modern Drummer festival dvd does NOT mean you know a GodDamn thing about drumming.

  • criddal

    Man…this is great news about joey, i havnt hurd nything about him since he was hospitalize and they had 2 cancel the Perth, WA kenwick Concert. God know what happen 2 him, but some people were pissed off but it wasnt a disapointment it wasnt his fault :D

  • ERiK

    What happened to Tommy Clufetos? He’s been drumming for Rob for years.

  • chris

    i think joey is one of the most overrated drummers in metal. he is sloppy as fuck. bring back tempesta or clufetos

  • http://www.uspassportnow.com/ Christi Johnson

    this is actually pretty awesome :)

  • Ellie

    So maybe the dude just wants to party? I mean, c’mon, why not? It’s fun, temporary, fills a time slot – he’s being asked to participate in non-committal onstage fun, and I don’t blame him for saying yes.